QUOTE(nobody83 @ Oct 5 2019, 05:46 PM)
By right you can. But most expensive does not guarantee the best. It is easier to ask them choose for you and filter from there.Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!
Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!
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Oct 5 2019, 06:07 PM
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Oct 5 2019, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(nobody83 @ Oct 5 2019, 05:58 PM) 2337534883 My preference :6207521593 6207607688 GIA no above, I choose only below 36deg and 40.8deg as well...what u think bro? WahChan guy give me mostly 36deg punya....fainted... Diamond 3 - very nice combo of proportions. If the cut is good, this is a good diamond. Diamond 1 - table is a bit wide, but I am okay with it. Other proportions look good. This diamond will bias towards brilliance more, but this does not mean the fire is bad, just white light is stronger than coloured light. Diamond 2 - while I cannot say it is a totally bad diamond, 35.5 crown is best paired with 40.6 pavilion. The diamond is also slightly deep at 62.5%. While it may not impact the light return (or have minimal impact) if it is well-cut, but I don't like to have the carat hidden in the depth. Anyway, for this sort of proportions, I would prefer to see the real thing. Is this from Wah Chan Solitaire Club? Or just standard 3EX? |
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Oct 5 2019, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 5 2019, 06:15 PM) My preference : No, from zcova....WahChan one need to go there find out....the sales guy send me some sample, mostly 36deg and lower clarity ...Diamond 3 - very nice combo of proportions. If the cut is good, this is a good diamond. Diamond 1 - table is a bit wide, but I am okay with it. Other proportions look good. This diamond will bias towards brilliance more, but this does not mean the fire is bad, just white light is stronger than coloured light. Diamond 2 - while I cannot say it is a totally bad diamond, 35.5 crown is best paired with 40.6 pavilion. The diamond is also slightly deep at 62.5%. While it may not impact the light return (or have minimal impact) if it is well-cut, but I don't like to have the carat hidden in the depth. Anyway, for this sort of proportions, I would prefer to see the real thing. Is this from Wah Chan Solitaire Club? Or just standard 3EX? 2337591946 1333574066 6332709025 6332637243 Few more samples...sorry .... I don’t understand, some the arrow and heart looks not good but still so expensive, is it because of the clarity? |
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Oct 5 2019, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(nobody83 @ Oct 5 2019, 07:01 PM) No, from zcova....WahChan one need to go there find out....the sales guy send me some sample, mostly 36deg and lower clarity ... Yea. Clarity. You already touched the Internally Flawless realm, which is overkill to be honest. Even at supplier side, any IF clarity and above commands a high premium.2337591946 1333574066 6332709025 6332637243 Few more samples...sorry .... I don’t understand, some the arrow and heart looks not good but still so expensive, is it because of the clarity? Other factors affecting the price including, how much is the original diamond rough, how much discount from the supplier, etc. My choice is still the one in the earlier post. This is based on numbers and I did not see the actual pictures. If you can include the picture links will be best. Laslty, my advice is that there is no need to go til IF clarity. You are paying for something you cannot see without any magnification, but of course, unless IF clarity means something meaningful to you, then it is certainly okay. |
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Oct 5 2019, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 5 2019, 07:43 PM) Yea. Clarity. You already touched the Internally Flawless realm, which is overkill to be honest. Even at supplier side, any IF clarity and above commands a high premium. Other factors affecting the price including, how much is the original diamond rough, how much discount from the supplier, etc. My choice is still the one in the earlier post. This is based on numbers and I did not see the actual pictures. If you can include the picture links will be best. Laslty, my advice is that there is no need to go til IF clarity. You are paying for something you cannot see without any magnification, but of course, unless IF clarity means something meaningful to you, then it is certainly okay. ![]() oh ya, attached for your view. |
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Oct 5 2019, 09:50 PM
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Oct 5 2019, 09:52 PM
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Oct 5 2019, 10:59 PM
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Oct 6 2019, 12:49 PM
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Oct 6 2019, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 4 2019, 02:22 PM) They don't have such thing in US. I asked few other companies also same. Try to ask for EIN or TIN instead. Tq v muchIf you are transferring using MoneyMatch, they should know as they have been transferring over for many times. Anyway, I am checking with MoneyMatch and see if they can provide any. Here you go: ![]() 76-0636227 |
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Oct 6 2019, 07:01 PM
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Oct 6 2019, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 5 2019, 06:15 PM) My preference : How much is the D VVS1 0.4 Ct ?Diamond 3 - very nice combo of proportions. If the cut is good, this is a good diamond. Diamond 1 - table is a bit wide, but I am okay with it. Other proportions look good. This diamond will bias towards brilliance more, but this does not mean the fire is bad, just white light is stronger than coloured light. Diamond 2 - while I cannot say it is a totally bad diamond, 35.5 crown is best paired with 40.6 pavilion. The diamond is also slightly deep at 62.5%. While it may not impact the light return (or have minimal impact) if it is well-cut, but I don't like to have the carat hidden in the depth. Anyway, for this sort of proportions, I would prefer to see the real thing. Is this from Wah Chan Solitaire Club? Or just standard 3EX? |
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Oct 6 2019, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Oct 6 2019, 10:03 PM) https://www.zcova.com/diamond?diamond=41603MYR 5,620.63 Not in their promotion item. |
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Oct 6 2019, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 6 2019, 10:22 PM) Wah cheaper than https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...ond-4158374.htmNot sure how's the proportion* perform against each other. This post has been edited by cococonutseller: Oct 6 2019, 10:28 PM |
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Oct 6 2019, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Oct 6 2019, 10:24 PM) Despite it has nice proportions, but remember that proportions are an average of numbers from multiple corners of a stone. Do click the link and see the cut, you will see that the arrows aren't even well-aligned.WhiteFlash won't be the cheapest, but if you factor in the cut quality and the possibility to return the stone within 30 days with minimal lost, and the possibility of future upgrade, I will say that the price is fair, and this is especially true when I compared to what I can get from local "Hearts & Arrows" section in brick-and-mortar stores. Just my 2 cents. |
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Oct 6 2019, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 6 2019, 10:32 PM) Despite it has nice proportions, but remember that proportions are an average of numbers from multiple corners of a stone. Do click the link and see the cut, you will see that the arrows aren't even well-aligned. Thank you, noticed that after I checked further. I think whiteflash price is cheap compared to brick&mortar store.. local stores can't offer the same at all..WhiteFlash won't be the cheapest, but if you factor in the cut quality and the possibility to return the stone within 30 days with minimal lost, and the possibility of future upgrade, I will say that the price is fair, and this is especially true when I compared to what I can get from local "Hearts & Arrows" section in brick-and-mortar stores. Just my 2 cents. |
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Oct 6 2019, 11:55 PM
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Oct 7 2019, 11:09 AM
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Just done my survey for few outlet.. below is my finding
WahChan = alot of diamond to choose & design. well explain and design is my preference PohKong = xblh pakai.. only sell hemera.. and service bad..kind of look down on me due to my appearance.. Habib = Price is cheap but only for low spec.. design is limited.. Degem = service is bad.. dont even take out ring for customer to view in first place.. limited selection.. Lazo = limited selection.. Tomei = explained & pending to revert on diamond selection Le lumiere = well explain but design is not my preference.. TLS = well explain and design is my preference.. below is the gem shortlisted and pending 2 more gem GIA to provide. GIA 2304236122 GIA 2175229904 - seem to be more sparking (rainbow color) GIA 6242288699 - seem to be more sparking (rainbow color) for above specification which one is better? ignore the carat.. |
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Oct 7 2019, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(busdriverrocks @ Oct 7 2019, 11:09 AM) Just done my survey for few outlet.. below is my finding The one you mentioned with rainbow is not even Triple Excellent. In fact, the one with no rainbow mentioned is a Triple Excellent and its proportions is the safest.WahChan = alot of diamond to choose & design. well explain and design is my preference PohKong = xblh pakai.. only sell hemera.. and service bad..kind of look down on me due to my appearance.. Habib = Price is cheap but only for low spec.. design is limited.. Degem = service is bad.. dont even take out ring for customer to view in first place.. limited selection.. Lazo = limited selection.. Tomei = explained & pending to revert on diamond selection Le lumiere = well explain but design is not my preference.. TLS = well explain and design is my preference.. below is the gem shortlisted and pending 2 more gem GIA to provide. GIA 2304236122 GIA 2175229904 - seem to be more sparking (rainbow color) GIA 6242288699 - seem to be more sparking (rainbow color) for above specification which one is better? ignore the carat.. The second stone only have cut grade Very Good too. However, since you managed to see the real diamonds, and they they appeal to you, maybe it suits you, there is not right or wrong. But if you want the standard that most people are looking for, they usually begin with Triple Excellent. Try to view the diamonds in other light environment? Maybe ask the sales person to bring them outside the store if possible? Also, survey the price a bit and see if the price you are paying is worth it or not. If you don't mind, do state your budget and I see what I can find that falls within your budget. |
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