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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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kambingkoh
post Oct 17 2017, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 17 2017, 12:25 PM)
No need purposely fly there one bro. Can liaise with them via email first.

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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 17 2017, 01:42 PM)
Haha. Just saying coz is a RM10k budget. Of coz can save a few hundred use it on the diamond rather than paying for air-ticket and etc.  laugh.gif
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Fly there la. Snap some pics. tongue.gif
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post Oct 18 2017, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 16 2017, 01:44 PM)
Woohoo! My little beauty has arrived!

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Haven't take out to capture the Hearts, will do it at home later and update my blog soon.
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Hearts:Attached Image
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More to come and update...
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post Oct 19 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 18 2017, 08:09 PM)
Hearts:Attached Image
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Wow... awesome diamond you got there sifu! Make me so tempted to order 1 from Brian Gavin now...

After looking around at Brian Gavin's website, I am unable to get the minimum specs (G, SI1, O.4ct) with my current budget. Found the diamond below and I think I have to sacrifice my colour a bit to H to maximise the carat. What sifu think about this? You think is ok with this diamond?

1) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881012
2) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881011

Still waiting for the CS to reply whether I can proceed with the credit card and all. If all this go thru smoothly, all I need to decide ring design and find a good craftsmanship jeweller. Any final feedback guys on iDo, Tailored Jewel and Emeuyo? I am considering iDo due to some of my own reasoning... ladies pay more attention on the details and get thing done precisely and accordingly. Hahahaha tongue.gif
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post Oct 19 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 19 2017, 10:28 AM)
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After looking around at Brian Gavin's website, I am unable to get the minimum specs (G, SI1, O.4ct) with my current budget. Found the diamond below and I think I have to sacrifice my colour a bit to H to maximise the carat. What sifu think about this? You think is ok with this diamond?

1) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881012
2) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881011

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Theoretically, H colour will look slightly yellowish if you ask me. But if the cut grade is good enough, the sparkles from the diamond will be able to mask the yellow tint.

Realistically, at 0.4 carat, you will not be able to see the colour at normal viewing distance from the top. Furthermore, no one will compare your diamond side by side with another, so why worry?

Just get the best available cut to maximise your carat weight. As for colour and clarity, go as low as you are comfortable with. An eye-clean SI1 G/H diamond would be ideal for this size.
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post Oct 19 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 19 2017, 11:48 AM)
Theoretically, H colour will look slightly yellowish if you ask me. But if the cut grade is good enough, the sparkles from the diamond will be able to mask the yellow tint.

Realistically, at 0.4 carat, you will not be able to see the colour at normal viewing distance from the top. Furthermore, no one will compare your diamond side by side with another, so why worry?

Just get the best available cut to maximise your carat weight. As for colour and clarity, go as low as you are comfortable with. An eye-clean SI1 G/H diamond would be ideal for this size.
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Yes sifu! I totally agreed with you. At first I want to go for D-F... Then I set to G as my minimum. But if to go within my budget, I still can't get a 0.40ct diamond. Yes, I got a few diamonds within my specs in KL but yet it still doesn't look as good as those shown in Brian Gavin, Whieflash or JannPaul. Y? Coz most of the jeweller here do not provide Ideal or ASET images to us... All I can get is the diamond proportion and HCA score. I have emailed Brian Gavin regarding some matters and will see how it goes from here. In the meantime, I also waiting for reply from JannPaul. Hahaha
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post Oct 19 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 18 2017, 08:09 PM)
Hearts:Attached Image
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And blog has been updated:

http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...experience.html
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post Oct 19 2017, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 19 2017, 01:13 PM)
Yes sifu! I totally agreed with you. At first I want to go for D-F... Then I set to G as my minimum. But if to go within my budget, I still can't get a 0.40ct diamond. Yes, I got a few diamonds within my specs in KL but yet it still doesn't look as good as those shown in Brian Gavin, Whieflash or JannPaul. Y? Coz most of the jeweller here do not provide Ideal or ASET images to us... All I can get is the diamond proportion and HCA score. I have emailed Brian Gavin regarding some matters and will see how it goes from here. In the meantime, I also waiting for reply from JannPaul. Hahaha
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Bro, don't call me sifu bro. Master kambingkoh baru is the Ip Man diamond sifu. Like Ip Man, he can tell whether a diamond has good light return just by looking at the proportions.

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Jokes aside, the diamond proportions can only tell you THAT much. As it involves the use of numbers to determine the outcome of the diamond (good or bad light performance), it is called a numerical/approximate solution. Same goes to the HCA and Enchanted Cut Score calculators. The opposite? Yup, you said it yourself bro, Idealscope and ASET images. This is called an analytical/exact solution, where the solution has been proven to work. By referencing your Idealscope/ASET image to the one below, you can determine exactly the light performance of your diamond under various lighting conditions.

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All numerical solutions have to be validated by experiments cuz not all solutions obtained numerically are true. In this case, the "experiment" is the Idealscope and ASET images of your diamond.
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post Oct 19 2017, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 19 2017, 10:28 AM)
Wow... awesome diamond you got there sifu! Make me so tempted to order 1 from Brian Gavin now...

After looking around at Brian Gavin's website, I am unable to get the minimum specs (G, SI1, O.4ct) with my current budget. Found the diamond below and I think I have to sacrifice my colour a bit to H to maximise the carat. What sifu think about this? You think is ok with this diamond?

1) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881012
2) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881011

Still waiting for the CS to reply whether I can proceed with the credit card and all. If all this go thru smoothly, all I need to decide ring design and find a good craftsmanship jeweller. Any final feedback guys on iDo, Tailored Jewel and Emeuyo? I am considering iDo due to some of my own reasoning... ladies pay more attention on the details and get thing done precisely and accordingly. Hahahaha  tongue.gif
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Personally, despite the feather inclusions at the edge of the diamond, I would still got with the 40-pointer, since the price is the same. Also, the fire on the 0.402, theoretically, should be better as well, with the small table and steep crown angle. And the light return is great as well. However, it is advisable to check with the sales rep whether the feather inclusions will pose any danger during setting of diamond or not. If you ask me, I would say it should be pretty safe, given the fact that the feather is the secondary inclusion, after crystal.

However, if you can push it, I would say go with:
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link). It is a G VS2. It has a feather at the edge of the diamond as well, which I don't prefer, but I will check with the sales rep and see if that feather will pose any danger or not, but at VS2, it should be pretty safe. Besides, feather is only the secondary inclusion on this diamond. The main inclusion is crystal, followed by feather, followed by cloud. And I see that the lab report ASET picks up a "burst of blue contrast" in the middle. I think there is pretty lot of excitement going-on there. This is what I am guessing myself because no one actually talks about the ASET in the report, but I can't help it but to ask, why some diamonds will have such "blue burst", while the others have less?

iDo Jewellery's rings are pretty good. You can consider her for your ring setting. Memory Jewellery at Sentul, however, can probably give you a good price. Let him know you wish to make your ring with 18k white gold alloyed with palladium (if you choose 18k white gold) instead of nickel. Eumayco - Some forumer actually did his there and seemed satisfy, you can try ask as well. Tailored Jewel does not do ring setting for other people's loose stone anymore.

If you go with H colour, you can probably consider yellow gold or rose gold. It can help you to hide the slight yellowish tint, if you are colour sensitive.
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post Oct 19 2017, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 19 2017, 02:31 PM)
Bro, don't call me sifu bro. Master kambingkoh baru is the Ip Man diamond sifu. Like Ip Man, he can tell whether a diamond has good light return just by looking at the proportions.

rclxms.gif

Jokes aside, the diamond proportions can only tell you THAT much. As it involves the use of numbers to determine the outcome of the diamond (good or bad light performance), it is called a numerical/approximate solution. Same goes to the HCA and Enchanted Cut Score calculators. The opposite? Yup, you said it yourself bro, Idealscope and ASET images. This is called an analytical/exact solution, where the solution has been proven to work. By referencing your Idealscope/ASET image to the one below, you can determine exactly the light performance of your diamond under various lighting conditions.

user posted image

All numerical solutions have to be validated by experiments cuz not all solutions obtained numerically are true. In this case, the "experiment" is the Idealscope and ASET images of your diamond.
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:42 AM

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Just to share... this is a seriously good piece:

https://www.victorcanera.com/diamonds/vf6rf...ts-arrows-round. The price? Wire transfer is USD 843. However, I think their shipping is not free. As for whether the ship to Malaysia or not, I am not sure as well. But I seriously like the look of that diamond and how the "blue burst" is like a supernova in the middle of the diamond, if you take a look at its lab report.

Now, according to JannPaul, the blue contrasts represent fire of the diamond: http://www.jannpaul.com/super-ideal-cushio...gagement-rings/. So I guess that could probably answer my question so far.

Anyway, this is from Victor Canera, another company for Super Ideals. I noticed that they don't seem to provide IdealScope and ASET image for small carats like 30-pointer. Of course, we can rely on the ASET on the lab report, but experience tells me both ASET on the lab report and ASET photograph are equally important. The ASET photograph can usually tell where will be the weaker light return better than the ASET on the lab report, while the ASET on the lab report can show the contrast better than the ASET photograph. For example, this one: https://www.victorcanera.com/diamonds/zvtpu...ts-arrows-round. It is all nice, proportions, lab report, etc. But you will notice a weak light return at around the 7 o'clock position on the ASET photograph, but the ASET on the lab report did not pick that up. So that's why I say both are equally important.

Extra: Now, this diamond shows some interesting fire as well, although loses out to the earlier 30-pointer I shown above (but should still be a fiery one!). Now, G VS2 below USD 2000 with this quality? I think it is fair enough!

And no, I am not affiliated with Victor Canera... maybe in the near future, yes. I am just sharing what I think is beautiful. wink.gif

On a side note, for those that do not need Super Ideal, you may consider Zoara diamonds (affiliate link). They sell GIA Triple Excellent diamonds at a pretty decent price. You will have much work to do in order to filter out the better ones, but you can certainly save some money compared to buying a super-ideal. You can probably save some money as well compared to buying from some brick-and-mortar or private jewelers as well. Take a quick look here for one of the diamonds that I preferred: http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...-excellent.html

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Need some help here, I saw the following diamonds below. Could anyone shed some light whether its worth the money?

1. RM6.8k
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6262374462

2. RM6.9k
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1268578917

3. Rm6.6k
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2256035861
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Guys, need your advise. Love&co 0.4ct E SI1 rm12.6k worth? What certification are they using?
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post Oct 21 2017, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(NJK07 @ Oct 21 2017, 11:50 AM)
Need some help here, I saw the following diamonds below. Could anyone shed some light whether its worth the money?

1. RM6.8k
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6262374462

2. RM6.9k
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1268578917

3. Rm6.6k
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2256035861
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Diamond 1 & 2 are not good diamonds, especially for their respective price.

Diamond 3 is okay but it is slightly deep to my liking, and I suspect that it will have some light leakage.

Use HCA to filter out the bad diamonds first: https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca, you can consider diamonds that score below 2. In your case, diamond 1 & 2 have bad scores. Diamond 3 is still okay, but the price is not worth it.

Here are so alternatives:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link)

The hearts and arrows of Brian Gavin is better than WhiteFlash’s, while WhiteFlash’s IdealScope and ASET looks better. WhiteFlash is slightly cheaper due to its free delivery policy and can request for a ring box easily, but personally will go with Brian Gavin for its better fire.

Both diamonds are better than what you have been offered IMO. Let me know if you need further help to purchase from either because I am affiliate with them.

But if can, wait for Brian Gavin's Black by Brian Gavin to restock. I have seen the one I like but it is under Reserved. sad.gif

All the best in your hunt!

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Oct 21 2017, 05:58 PM
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post Oct 21 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(AceAbagail @ Oct 21 2017, 12:10 PM)
Guys, need your advise. Love&co 0.4ct E SI1 rm12.6k worth? What certification are they using?
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If LoveMarque, it will be IIDGR (a DeBeers company)

If others, most likely IGI Antwerp.

Even if they give you excellent ring setting, the price is waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy overpriced by thousands.
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QUOTE(AceAbagail @ Oct 21 2017, 12:10 PM)
Guys, need your advise. Love&co 0.4ct E SI1 rm12.6k worth? What certification are they using?
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A 0.4 for more than 12 grand ahh?

GILA! Ask them sendiri buy and wear.
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Ya.. i thought so to.. way to expensive. But it's the first quote tho. Haven't been to the shop. Maybe I should go in person & see myself what kind of discount they will give. Not so many branded shop choices in Penang
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QUOTE(AceAbagail @ Oct 21 2017, 09:59 PM)
Ya.. i thought so to.. way to expensive. But it's the first quote tho. Haven't been to the shop. Maybe I should go in person & see myself what kind of discount they will give. Not so many branded shop choices in Penang
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Do you have the ring size of your gf?
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post Oct 22 2017, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 21 2017, 11:45 PM)
Do you have the ring size of your gf?
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Yes roughly. y?
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But if can, wait for Brian Gavin's Black by Brian Gavin to restock. I have seen the one I like but it is under Reserved. sad.gif

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U mean this one?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...gs-104095241029
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post Oct 22 2017, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 21 2017, 12:44 PM)
Diamond 1 & 2 are not good diamonds, especially for their respective price.

Diamond 3 is okay but it is slightly deep to my liking, and I suspect that it will have some light leakage.

Use HCA to filter out the bad diamonds first: https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca, you can consider diamonds that score below 2. In your case, diamond 1 & 2 have bad scores. Diamond 3 is still okay, but the price is not worth it.

Here are so alternatives:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link)

The hearts and arrows of Brian Gavin is better than WhiteFlash’s, while WhiteFlash’s IdealScope and ASET looks better. WhiteFlash is slightly cheaper due to its free delivery policy and can request for a ring box easily, but personally will go with Brian Gavin for its better fire.

Both diamonds are better than what you have been offered IMO. Let me know if you need further help to purchase from either because I am affiliate with them.

But if can, wait for Brian Gavin's Black by Brian Gavin to restock. I have seen the one I like but it is under Reserved. sad.gif

All the best in your hunt!
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