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hussain.isma
post May 26 2014, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(BlurTV @ May 25 2014, 02:20 PM)
Looking for advice from the Otais here  tongue.gif

A friend of mine recommended taking up a basic O&G course from think-plus academy.
From what I understand, it's a recruitment agency that provides practical and specialized courses as well.
Their upcoming course is "Basic Oil & Gas Enrichment Course". I was thinking of signing up to increase my chances of getting recruited.

It costs RM2500 for a 3 day course though. Should I go for it?
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look back dan tengok what's the problem engineers facr when nak masuk OnG..
Usually it's the work experience and cgpa, not the lacking of certain courses.. I dont think it'll help a bit.
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post May 26 2014, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(CalculateThis @ May 25 2014, 11:53 PM)
I would advise against it. Recruiters wouldn't look at it as value-adding considering the fact that it's only a 3-day course and when it comes to practical application, I'd say it's almost close to none unless they can guarantee securing you some sort of on-the-job training after that.
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True. I asked them the same questions regarding the post-course possibilities. They didn't give me anything concrete. They just said that I'd be given priority when submitting applications for vacancies posted on their website. Thanks a bunch! I was already quite reluctant because of the cost of the course.

QUOTE(heliosi @ May 26 2014, 05:32 AM)
I concur with Calculate This - the generic name itself: Basic Oil & Gas Enrichment Course, should already tell you much about the "potential value" of the course. The most generic of these courses usually involve a facilitator reading out summarized points from a book. Check your pm.

With that amount of money you're better off taking a skills course, or if you prefer, another classroom course with potential value. I'm sure some of us here can guide you, but you'd first have to let us know what area in O&G you want to pursue
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Thanks!
I totally agree with you.
I'm interested in drilling. I've been signing up for drilling engineer programs for the past 2 years but I haven't been successful.
My biggest problem is that I have a Russian degree in Aeronautical and Rocket engineering. The Russian education system doesn't use the CGPA system. It's either you have 1st class honors or just like everyone else. If you fail, you don't get a degree. It's that simple. So I always don't know what to put in the CGPA column. I don't want to put in a false figure just to get an interview.

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post May 26 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(BlurTV @ May 25 2014, 02:20 PM)
Looking for advice from the Otais here  tongue.gif

A friend of mine recommended taking up a basic O&G course from think-plus academy.
From what I understand, it's a recruitment agency that provides practical and specialized courses as well.
Their upcoming course is "Basic Oil & Gas Enrichment Course". I was thinking of signing up to increase my chances of getting recruited.

It costs RM2500 for a 3 day course though. Should I go for it?
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They just want your money.
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post May 26 2014, 11:21 AM

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BlurTV kau jadik Surveyor in MWS or something related to naval architect sure boleh punya trust me
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post May 26 2014, 04:20 PM

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currently graduating soon from Mechanical Engineering course. would want to venture into O&G as a field of career. however i do not possess high CGPA (above 3, but not more than 3.5 which is the minimum requirement by most of the O&G company)

my question is, does low CGPA really stands no chance in joining the O&G field?

for a fresh graduate applying for O&G job, is there any advices based on experience by the people here for us?

thank you
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post May 26 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ May 26 2014, 11:21 AM)
BlurTV kau jadik Surveyor in MWS or something related to naval architect sure boleh punya trust me
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I've written to a few companies.
No reply.

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post May 26 2014, 04:38 PM

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FW: RE : Provision for the Services as Contract Administra​tor to Exxonmobil Exploratio​n and Production Malaysia Inc. ( EMEPMI )

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Mohamad Yusop <mohamadyusop@prumatech.com.my>

May 23 (3 days ago)

to me, mohdyakup

Asaalamua’laikum Mohammad Yakup

Reference is made to our conversation this morning  regarding the services for a  Contract Administrator to EMEPMI.

Attached is the Position Description for your perusal.

Particulars of the services are as follows :

Point of Hire                                                                   :  KL Office

Base Work Location                                                     :   KL  Office

Commencement of Assignment (Tentative)     :  July 1,2014

Duration of Assignment ( Estimate)                      :  2 years (with option to extend 1 year)

Normal Working Hours                                                : as below

Normal Working Days per Week                             : as below

Work Location                           Normal Work Hours                 Normal Work Days Per Week

a ) KL Office                                             10                                                            5

b) Onshore Work Site                         10                                                            6

c) Offshore                                              12                                                            7

The normal work hours is inclusive of the one (1) hour lunch  break .

There is no provision for overtime work for KL Office beyond the normal working hours  on Normal Work Days . However  there is  provision for overtime work for Rest Day or Public Holiday.

However  any overtime work on Rest Day or Public Holiday  must have the prior approval of the Supervisor or Supervising Manager .

For the  Contract there is one Daily Rate that will be applicable to you based on your Base Work Location .If your Base Work Location is KL Office  ,the Daily  Rate for KL Office  will be applicable to you.  For example ,if  you are on temporary assignment to KSB or Offshore,  the Daily  Rate for KL   shall apply .However  when you are onshore or offshore you shall be eligible for overtime for the hours you work beyond the normal KL Office of 10 hours.

For Business Travels,  there is provision for per diem rates of RM65.00  for Day Trip and for Overnight Trip it is  RM 360.00/day  or RM 560 /day for Singapore and Batam.

For locations where there are no per diem rates ,reimbursement  shall be based on actual cost incurred subject to cost being reasonable.

For our submission on the complete Service Proposal (SP ) on yourself which is closing on June 4,2014  ,we appreciate if you could forward to us at your earliest convenience or latest by June 2,2014 the following as per the requirement by EMEPMI.

1.The attached Letter of Consent  (LOC) duly signed by you.

2.The attached declaration forms on “Confidentiality Declaration ; “ Conflict of Interest Declaration “ and “ Directorship Declaration “ duly signed by you at the columns provided.

For the Letter of Consent please provide us the quotation on your Daily Rate as applicable to your Base Work Location. There are no provisions for mobilization & demobilization  costs ,annual and sick leave and any other forms of leave . Payment will be for days worked.

The Base Rate is based on your qualifications and work experience and is computed on the basis of a 10 hour work day. The Rates for Onshore Site and Offshore have been established by EMEPMI with Premiums of 10% of Base Rate for Onshore and 30% of Base Rate for Offshore .

For KL Office there is no premium. This means the Base Rate is the KL Office Rate.

In  terms of statutory benefits there is provision for  EPF contribution by the ‘Employer ‘ . As per the provisions by EMEPMI , the contribution  rate by ‘Employer ‘  is  12 % .

Prumatech(M) Sdn Bhd shall provide the following  benefits  :

A)     Group Personal Accident (GPA)  24 hours  Insurance  Coverage for RM 200,000.00.

B)      Group Insurance Medical Coverage both for outpatient (clinical) and Hospitalization  & Surgical for RB( Room & Board ) 200 and annual limit of RM80,000.00. Currently our arrangement is with Allianz Insurance and a medical card will be issued for both outpatient and  Hospitalization .

C)   Complete Pre-employment medical check-up for both offshore and onshore ( where applicable )

D)  Pre-Deployment SHE  requirement  and Safety Trainings such as BOSET and LPS. (for Offshore base )

E)  Personal Protective Equipment  (PPE)- coveralls, safety shoes ,safety helmet ,safety  glass ,glove.

F ) For  travel on company business, we provide the arrangements for air-ticket  flight bookings thru our travel agent whereby e-tickets will be issued for your convenience. If required we also could provide arrangements for hotel bookings (if applicable).

For salary and reimbursement claim  payments, we shall credit into the bank account   the payments within five( 5) working days on receipt of signed and approved  timesheets  and reimbursement claim forms. For expediency for payment processing ,we also accept  copies of timesheets and claim forms  via facsimile or by email. The original copies are to be submitted  thereafter.

The Contract for Services Agreement between Prumatech (M) Sdn Bhd and yourself shall be a back-to-back Agreement that we signed with EMEPMI whereby  the terms and conditions will be in line with the provisions as provided in the contract between EMEPMI and PRUMATECH.

Please feel free to contact us if you need any additional information regarding the contract.

Thank you.

Regards.

Mohamad Yusop
Prumatech(M) Sdn Bhd
Unit C-8-4, 8th Floor, Block C, Megan Avenue II
No.12, Jalan Yap Kwan Seng
50450 Kuala Lumpur

Tel no: 603 - 21634794 / 603-21611678
Fax: 603 -21615060
Mobile:019 - 260 2163
Email: mohamadyusop@prumatech.com.my
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post May 26 2014, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ May 21 2014, 07:19 PM)
Reason is simple. Within 5 years time I will have tons of project reference in my CV which will looks very handsome. I will definitely choose PBJV because they are among one of the top O&G contractor for HUC and T&I. Ditch that Lotte petchem offer.
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Thank you for your insight Abg senior.
I will go for it.

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post May 26 2014, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(talzer @ May 26 2014, 04:20 PM)
currently graduating soon from Mechanical Engineering course. would want to venture into O&G as a field of career. however i do not possess high CGPA (above 3, but not more than 3.5 which is the minimum requirement by most of the O&G company)

my question is, does low CGPA really stands no chance in joining the O&G field?


for a fresh graduate applying for O&G job, is there any advices based on experience by the people here for us?

thank you
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no, most probably just get less lucrative pay

just don't be too picky
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post May 26 2014, 08:08 PM

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Greetings guys, I am a electrical engineering grad who wants to give up electrical field entirely and be a drilling engineer. Below average cgpa, but very much willing to work offshore.

Current experience includes; power/utilities (TNB for 3 mths), IT/business project management (Accenture for 3 mths), Facilities O&M (Intel Corp for 7 mths), and project/construction/commissioning (Klang Valley MRT Project for 3 mths and counting). Qualifications none.

I have tried applying in many companies but obviously yet to be called for interview. I would like to know what qualifications can I arm myself with to obtain higher chances of being called for an interview? I have tried for Shell graduate programme before (passed all online tests), but never got called to the SRD. Thanks for all inputs.


Also I'm somewhat intrigued in the project management side of things, there was this experienced professional who was sharing his experience about O&G project management in Sime Darby Oil. He mentioned that work was hectic, bosses stuck in office for long hours, staff sleeping/take bath in office, and projects keep on coming which causes staff to juggle multiple projects at a time. Is the situation still the same or has everything cooled down? I am very intrigued in this field also, so mohon share how to get into this if being a drilling engineer is not possible.

And also, mohon mod update link pdf Instok. Very powerful pdf, but I lost it. Thanks.

This post has been edited by ak101ss: May 26 2014, 08:16 PM
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post May 26 2014, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(ak101ss @ May 26 2014, 08:08 PM)
Greetings guys, I am a electrical engineering grad who wants to give up electrical field entirely and be a drilling engineer. Below average cgpa, but very much willing to work offshore.

Current experience includes; power/utilities (TNB for 3 mths), IT/business project management (Accenture for 3 mths), Facilities O&M (Intel Corp for 7 mths), and project/construction/commissioning (Klang Valley MRT Project for 3 mths and counting). Qualifications none.

I have tried applying in many companies but obviously yet to be called for interview. I would like to know what qualifications can I arm myself with to obtain higher chances of being called for an interview? I have tried for Shell graduate programme before (passed all online tests), but never got called to the SRD. Thanks for all inputs.
Also I'm somewhat intrigued in the project management side of things, there was this experienced professional who was sharing his experience about O&G project management in Sime Darby Oil. He mentioned that work was hectic, bosses stuck in office for long hours, staff sleeping/take bath in office, and projects keep on coming which causes staff to juggle multiple projects at a time. Is the situation still the same or has everything cooled down? I am very intrigued in this field also, so mohon share how to get into this if being a drilling engineer is not possible.

And also, mohon mod update link pdf Instok. Very powerful pdf, but I lost it. Thanks.
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Dua 3 months jobs.. Don't think will look good in cv.
Petronas hr told me drilling engineer most picky in selection.. Either PetEng, or any engineering but took drilling courses at same time, or work experience.
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post May 26 2014, 08:44 PM

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If you handling project management on contractor side, just make sure hatimu tabah menghadapi ridiculous dateline from client lulz been there done that brows.gif
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post May 26 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ May 26 2014, 11:21 AM)
BlurTV kau jadik Surveyor in MWS or something related to naval architect sure boleh punya trust me
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need to learn so much about Naval Architecture if blurTV want to become one.. but dun give up.. flex.gif

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post May 26 2014, 10:02 PM

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stick to aviation especially Turbomachinery - part of oil & gas/power plant/aviation, it is trending now, follow the business news, does not need to join o&g.

real life application courses which are documented and sharing with Engineers are coming from SPE, ain't cheap. without real life experience or basic fundamentals in petroleum, one may waste the $ to attend the course.

apologise to those whatever academy, some just start to boom and wanna take a piece of the pies in the market by fishing those fresh and wanna into o&g, just a way of making $. they will not last in the market.

rule of thumb, does not necessary join o&g, understand yourself: strength, background qualifications and nurture from there to become niche.
i have no idea why all must join o&g just because the trending or ?

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post May 26 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(ak101ss @ May 26 2014, 08:08 PM)
Greetings guys, I am a electrical engineering grad who wants to give up electrical field entirely and be a drilling engineer. Below average cgpa, but very much willing to work offshore.

Current experience includes; power/utilities (TNB for 3 mths), IT/business project management (Accenture for 3 mths), Facilities O&M (Intel Corp for 7 mths), and project/construction/commissioning (Klang Valley MRT Project for 3 mths and counting). Qualifications none.

I have tried applying in many companies but obviously yet to be called for interview. I would like to know what qualifications can I arm myself with to obtain higher chances of being called for an interview? I have tried for Shell graduate programme before (passed all online tests), but never got called to the SRD. Thanks for all inputs.
Also I'm somewhat intrigued in the project management side of things, there was this experienced professional who was sharing his experience about O&G project management in Sime Darby Oil. He mentioned that work was hectic, bosses stuck in office for long hours, staff sleeping/take bath in office, and projects keep on coming which causes staff to juggle multiple projects at a time. Is the situation still the same or has everything cooled down? I am very intrigued in this field also, so mohon share how to get into this if being a drilling engineer is not possible.

And also, mohon mod update link pdf Instok. Very powerful pdf, but I lost it. Thanks.
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my guess one better don't join o&g if one cannot take the hectic and the fast-paced.
Talk/Typing vs Put into Action is different thing.
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post May 27 2014, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(ch_teo @ May 26 2014, 10:02 PM)
stick to aviation especially Turbomachinery - part of oil & gas/power plant/aviation, it is trending now, follow the business news, does not need to join o&g.

real life application courses which are documented and sharing with Engineers are coming from SPE, ain't cheap. without real life experience or basic fundamentals in petroleum, one may waste the $ to attend the course.

apologise to those whatever academy, some just start to boom and wanna take a piece of the pies in the market by fishing those fresh and wanna into o&g, just a way of making $. they will not last in the market.

rule of thumb, does not necessary join o&g, understand yourself: strength, background qualifications and nurture from there to become niche.
i have no idea why all must join o&g just because the trending or ?
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I like the last statement which is so the very true brows.gif
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post May 27 2014, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(hussain.isma @ May 26 2014, 08:43 PM)
Dua 3 months jobs.. Don't think will look good in cv.
Petronas hr told me drilling engineer most picky in selection.. Either PetEng, or any engineering but took drilling courses at same time, or work experience.
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I see, guess I'm screwed then. Thanks anyways


QUOTE(mohdyakup @ May 26 2014, 08:44 PM)
If you handling project management on contractor side, just make sure hatimu tabah menghadapi ridiculous dateline from client lulz been there done that brows.gif
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Dateline is never a problem, their last minute significant changes in scope is the major issue.
QUOTE(ch_teo @ May 26 2014, 10:02 PM)
stick to aviation especially Turbomachinery - part of oil & gas/power plant/aviation, it is trending now, follow the business news, does not need to join o&g.
apologise to those whatever academy, some just start to boom and wanna take a piece of the pies in the market by fishing those fresh and wanna into o&g, just a way of making $. they will not last in the market.
rule of thumb, does not necessary join o&g, understand yourself: strength, background qualifications and nurture from there to become niche.
i have no idea why all must join o&g just because the trending or ?
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I don't see myself in O&G in the long term, I just am here to see what's this industry is all about and wish to gain some experience. I have been jumping around various industries and wish to continue. Money is not the aim, experiencing different industries/culture is.
Talking about aviation, I did once apply for GE Engine Services in Subang, went for the interview (OMLP - Operations Management Leadership Program) but wasnt shortlisted. There's now once again some openings and I'm trying again.
QUOTE(ch_teo @ May 26 2014, 10:09 PM)
my guess one better don't join o&g if one cannot take the hectic and the fast-paced.
Talk/Typing vs Put into Action is different thing.
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I want hectic and fast paced. Been there, but left due to poor pay. Regret leaving ever since.
But then again, I just want to pass by and see what's it all about. Not as a long term and not for the money.

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post May 27 2014, 11:33 AM

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If you want hectic and fast paced I strongly suggest you join fabricator like KHL, Brooke Dockyard, Labuan Shipyard, Boustead Shipyard, MHHE, OceanMight, THHE-Ramunia, Muhibbah Engineering etc
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post May 27 2014, 11:35 AM

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If you can survive with fabricator for at least three years then you can look for me soliciting for job prospect
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post May 27 2014, 12:04 PM

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Its fun to read all the conversations here, but segan nak join.

I guess people have heard of onesubsea, I got offered to their GRDP (sorta like graduate program) with 4 years bond (2 years rotation, 2 years work) and quite an ok pay for fresh graduate. Its more manufacturing even though ada nama O&G. Contemplating since im from chemical background.

The thing is their offer comes too early. I havent done exploring, but scared as well, yang dikejar tak dapat, digendong sudah cicir. LOL. I still wanna go to interviews. Hahaha.

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