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post Apr 24 2014, 11:37 PM, updated 10y ago

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WELCOME TO V2 OF THE GAMERS HEADSET THREAD!


This thread is open to all gamers who owns headsets of varying brands and types, and want to share ideas or recommendations. biggrin.gif


Share your gaming headset and experiences here. Unlike Normal audiophile threads we have a specific penchant for soundstage and width plus the ability to play multiple genres is important.


Thread V1: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=866450&hl=


Planned Gatherings and Meetups:
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Recommend Top 10:
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Local Sellers:
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List of gaming headset:

Audio Technica
1. mois | Audio Technica A900
2. mADmAN | Audio Technica A500
3. karthyhu | Audio Technica ATH-T22
4. tinker | Audio Technica A900

Sennheiser
1. EricCYL | HD555
2. cstkl1 | HD598/G4ME Zero
3. Sentinel92 | HD558
4. bl@ze | HD800 shocking.gif

Turtlebeach
1.Clem1982 | X31

Razer
1. Vorador | Razer Carcharias.
2. hong1380 | Razer Megaladon
3. Helldiver | Hammerhead Pro

Denon
1. Helldiver | AH-D400

Plantronics
1. sniper69 | Plantronics 360
2. Hyde`fK | Plantronics Gamecom 1
3. SpikeTwo | Plantronics audio 350

Superlux
1. Yagami5159. | Superlux HD681 Evo
2. ntw | Superlux HD660
3. maxera | Superlux HD681 Evo

PLEASE POST DRILLZ OF YOUR HEADSET AND DESCRIPTION IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE LIST. TQ.

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post Apr 24 2014, 11:45 PM

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Headphones Explained in 5 Minutes:

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ExplainedELI5: The difference between $250 earphones vs $10 earphones.

-A better pair of headphones will:
-Have less distortion
-amplify evenly over a broad range of pitch and volume
-be more durable
-fit and stay in your ears better
-block out external noise

There is a also a good deal of marketing and audiophile BS involved, and some of these differences are only something a trained ear would notice. The difference between $50 and $3000 headphones are pretty clear, after that, things start to get a little dubious.
EDIT: Just to be clear, by "dubious", I don't mean headphones stop getting better at $3000. What I mean is it becomes less clear whether you are paying better features or marketing hype.



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ExplainedELI5: FREQUENCIES

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TL;DR Version.

Low - Bass. Drums. Kickdrums. EDM. Anything that packs a solid low end punch. Best versions of bass is those where it's solid and tight. A controlled thump, rather than a loose boom you hear in that of Beats headsets.
Mids - Vocals. Musical instruments of the mellow kind like guitars or pianos. Supposed to be lush and mellow. Like a buttery feeling when you listen to it.
Highs - Treble. Also musical instruments but generally more sharper ones like snares, cymbals. Lousy treble control usually ends with highly annoying Sharp hisses.

Some people prefer bass. Some likes treble, especially gamers.


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support!!! anybody heard about QPAD before?
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post Apr 25 2014, 12:05 AM

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Fu yoh Sentinel big boss moderate a discussion thread edi!

Y U NO add Suplerlux into the list ? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:05 AM)
Fu yoh Sentinel big boss moderate a discussion thread edi!

Y U NO add Suplerlux into the list ? hmm.gif
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ya lo, i demand SUPERLUX to be added in!! sentinel92
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post Apr 25 2014, 12:51 AM

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Finally a new thread.

I'd like to come up with a Top 5 (or 10, or whatever) headphones for gamers.
Though generally speaking, those on the budget can always look at Superlux or search for some second hand stuff.
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Hahahahhahaa. Okay okay. Let the superlux master race be added in.

Edit: There done ntw Yagami5159

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 25 2014, 12:51 AM)
Finally a new thread.

I'd like to come up with a Top 5 (or 10, or whatever) headphones for gamers.
Though generally speaking, those on the budget can always look at Superlux or search for some second hand stuff.
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Well, we can always get a Top 10 based on value. If a cheaper headset can kick higher end headsets we give it a place.

Speaking of which, I haz good news. There is a store in Sungai Wang that has the Alpha Dog. Shall we go try it out? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:53 AM)
Well, we can always get a Top 10 based on value. If a cheaper headset can kick higher end headsets we give it a place.

Speaking of which, I haz good news. There is a store in Sungai Wang that has the Alpha Dog. Shall we go try it out?  brows.gif
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Perhaps.
Then there's the info needed on soundcards, amps, external DACs, difference on various virtual surround sound technologies.

Ooooh. Which store is it? drool.gif
But dude, I don't wanna come out RM2k poorer! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 25 2014, 12:55 AM)
Ooooh. Which store is it? drool.gif

But dude, I don't wanna come out RM2k poorer! laugh.gif
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Who else. E1 - AKG punya.

Eh macha. Try only lah. You tested out Fostex TH900 also never buy right. We go testing testing only. tongue.gif brows.gif

You let me know when you wanna go.
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post Apr 25 2014, 01:09 AM

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Wow nice V2 ady..my HD800 doesnt qualify as gaming headphone? sad.gif
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post Apr 25 2014, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:58 AM)
Who else. E1 - AKG punya.

Eh macha. Try only lah. You tested out Fostex TH900 also never buy right. We go testing testing only. tongue.gif  brows.gif

You let me know when you wanna go.
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I owned the TH900... for a short period of time. Then I had to sell it, cause you know... when I bought it, that was a very insane impulse buy. sweat.gif

Oh, is his store fully opened yet? I heard he's still stocking stuff.
Btw remind me to poison you. brows.gif


QUOTE(bl@ze @ Apr 25 2014, 01:09 AM)
Wow nice V2 ady..my HD800 doesnt qualify as gaming headphone? sad.gif
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In my view, all headphones qualify for gaming, movies or music.

The seperation where these gaming companies has made is atrocious. There's still an unbelieveable amount of people out there who thinks gaming headsets are the best you can get when you wan the best audio experience when playing games. That's just so wrong. A good headphone is a good headphone, period.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 25 2014, 01:16 AM)
I owned the TH900... for a short period of time. Then I had to sell it, cause you know... when I bought it, that was a very insane impulse buy. sweat.gif

Oh, is his store fully opened yet? I heard he's still stocking stuff.
Btw remind me to poison you. brows.gif
In my view, all headphones qualify for gaming, movies or music.

The seperation where these gaming companies has made is atrocious. There's still an unbelieveable amount of people out there who thinks gaming headsets are the best you can get when you wan the best audio experience when playing games. That's just so wrong. A good headphone is a good headphone, period.
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HUH, WHAT? YOU ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE TH900?!? *faints*

Impulse it was man. Holy shite. Well, we test out the Alpha Dog and see how it stacks up at 50% the price.

Yeah I THINK he has a store already. Plus the fact he PMed me means he is stalking me too. Hahahaha. You let me know when you free lah. I probably will go next Monday or Tuesday since i need to get stuff from Times Square.

+1. Good hearphones are meant for everything. That's why we are here to share what is great for gaming. Doesn't matter what brand.

QUOTE(bl@ze @ Apr 25 2014, 01:09 AM)
Wow nice V2 ady..my HD800 doesnt qualify as gaming headphone? sad.gif
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Bro, I believe the word is "over-qualified" instead. Haha.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 01:26 AM)
HUH, WHAT? YOU ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE TH900?!? *faints*

Impulse it was man. Holy shite. Well, we test out the Alpha Dog and see how it stacks up at 50% the price.

Yeah I THINK he has a store already. Plus the fact he PMed me means he is stalking me too. Hahahaha. You let me know when you free lah. I probably will go next Monday or Tuesday since i need to get stuff from Times Square.

+1. Good hearphones are meant for everything. That's why we are here to share what is great for gaming. Doesn't matter what brand.
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Yes, caused me a kidney.
Luckily I sold it back at 90% of its original price and it was very easy to sell it too, since it was so hard to get that people don't mind paying for it.

High hopes for the Alpha Dogs indeed. Next Tuesday sounds fine I think, let's see how it goes.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 25 2014, 01:35 AM)
Yes, caused me a kidney.
Luckily I sold it back at 90% of its original price and it was very easy to sell it too, since it was so hard to get that people don't mind paying for it.

High hopes for the Alpha Dogs indeed. Next Tuesday sounds fine I think, let's see how it goes.
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That 10% loss still sounds painful mate. sweat.gif
Hahaha. But yeah, everyone wants a TH900. It's good Shit.

Warning though, we are kinda building too much expectations on one headset hahahha. Alright sure, let me know anytime next Monday or Tuesday.

Hope it'll be my end game for the next few years before I reeeeeally step into high end HeadFi when I have the capability to do so.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 01:27 AM)
Bro, I believe the word is "over-qualified" instead. Haha.
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Then please add me into the list lol..
Here's my work in progress..please excuse the mess, the monitors just arrived today.. I'm a Roccat fanboy btw whistling.gif

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Apr 25 2014, 01:39 AM)
Then please add me into the list lol..
Here's my work in progress..please excuse the mess, the monitors just arrived today.. I'm a Roccat fanboy btw  whistling.gif

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I KNEW IT. Over qualified is definitely the right word. Me jelly your setup.

Hahah will do boss.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 01:41 AM)
I KNEW IT. Over qualified is definitely the right word. Me jelly your setup.

Hahah will do boss.
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Haha thanks dude..don't worry your time will come too..I used to dream of a monster setup in my student days and this is my time to fulfill it.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Apr 25 2014, 01:44 AM)
Haha thanks dude..don't worry your time will come too..I used to dream of a monster setup in my student days and this is my time to fulfill it.. smile.gif
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Wait a freaking minute didn't you just only recently got your mining rigs? I remember giving you guides about it. So what setup you have now since you're selling it all off?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 01:48 AM)
Wait a freaking minute didn't you just only recently got your mining rigs? I remember giving you guides about it. So what setup you have now since you're selling it all off?
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My actual pc still havent completed until now loool..Bitspower took their sweet time today only sending the parts..

Only reason I'm selling the mining rigs is to buy ASICs hehe..

Have you guys read the thread on Mad Lust Envy's gaming headphones roundup on head-fi?
It's more console-focused but some good info there too.
I'm not sure if we can link to other forums here though :S
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Add me to the list biggrin.gif I using Denon AH-D400

Frankly, the best headphone out there is the one the listener likes best, it could cost RM30 or RM3000, regardless.

Anyway, back to gaming soundstage: Razer's Hammerhead Pro does a good job at it too. tongue.gif
And personally I test gaming headsets with L4D2 and Bioshock Infinite biggrin.gif

Sentinel, add in the Razer at the list for me --forgot earlier haha

Woi, I also used to use Logitech G430 tongue.gif
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Reporting for duty.

But wah now all the sifu sudah keluar with high end stuff ahaha. I think suddenly a lot of people worry to sound noob if they suggest Razer headsets. biggrin.gif

I think hard to subject gaming headphones/headsets to ranking unless it's associated with budget.


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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Apr 25 2014, 01:51 AM)
My actual pc still havent completed until now loool..Bitspower took their sweet time today only sending the parts..

Only reason I'm selling the mining rigs is to buy ASICs hehe..
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Bitspower? I think its Cyntrix taking their time. You could have easily gotten a crap ton of Bitspower stuff from Frozencpu or PerformancePC within two weeks or way less.

ASICs? Guess those are more efficient. Can I pinjam one? Tee hee.

But meh, you got the HD800. So hooray!

QUOTE(Helldiver @ Apr 25 2014, 01:13 PM)
Add me to the list biggrin.gif I using Denon AH-D400
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Wokay boss! biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 25 2014, 01:25 PM)
Reporting for duty.

But wah now all the sifu sudah keluar with high end stuff ahaha. I think suddenly a lot of people worry to sound noob if they suggest Razer headsets.  biggrin.gif

I think hard to subject gaming headphones/headsets to ranking unless it's associated with budget.
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Ah Sifu Skidd. Welcome. rclxms.gif

Nah, it's all based on budget man. We can recommend end game headsets but if his budget is RM100-200 then no point.

Well, it'll be based on value I guess. Budget against performance. Like I said a cheap headset may perform better value wise against something twice its cost.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 01:38 PM)
Wokay boss! biggrin.gif
Ah Sifu Skidd. Welcome.  rclxms.gif

Nah, it's all based on budget man. We can recommend end game headsets but if his budget is RM100-200 then no point.

Well, it'll be based on value I guess. Budget against performance. Like I said a cheap headset may perform better value wise against something twice its cost.
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Please la, I am not a sifu. Still noob with limited budget. Embarrassed coz I still learning how to hear the diff in sounds and only experience limited sets of headphone. Later people call me a fraud if I pretend to be sifu. sweat.gif

But I really like to read about other peoples experience on audiophile headphones compared with gaming headsets in games. Since this thread caters more to gamer, I think more emphasis should be on quality headphones that can enhance the gaming experience.

Kind of hard to debate on value on such a subjective obsession. However I feel a lot of the sifus here got a lot of experience with diff headphones to provide a good mixture of what is expected of a headphone for it's asking price.

Edit:

Was trying to figure out what is the best games, genres, etc to test a headphone. Preferably something accessible like a Free to Play game or game demo where people can experiment with sound to 'review' their headphones. At least if we can get a list of benchmark games or demo, we have a common point to compare the differences in headphones.

Only demo I can think of is Half Life 2 : Lost Coast because it should be available for everyone though it is considered very old already, maybe 10 years.

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 25 2014, 02:06 PM)
Please la, I am not a sifu. Still noob with limited budget. Embarrassed coz I still learning how to hear the diff in sounds and only experience limited sets of headphone. Later people call me a fraud if I pretend to be sifu.  sweat.gif

But I really like to read about other peoples experience on audiophile headphones compared with gaming headsets in games. Since this thread caters more to gamer, I think more emphasis should be on quality headphones that can enhance the gaming experience.

Kind of hard to debate on value on such a subjective obsession. However I feel a lot of the sifus here got a lot of experience with diff headphones to provide a good mixture of what is expected of a headphone for it's asking price.

Edit:

Was trying to figure out what is the best games, genres, etc to test a headphone. Preferably something accessible like a Free to Play game or game demo where people can experiment with sound to 'review' their headphones. At least if we can get a list of benchmark games or demo, we have a common point to compare the differences in headphones.

Only demo I can think of is Half Life 2 : Lost Coast because it should be available for everyone though it is considered very old already, maybe 10 years.
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Sifu to me. Haha. I also got tons more to learn headphone wise. Haven't tried out so many models. cry.gif

Yeah that's why I said emphasis on soundstaging, width and the ability to play multiple genres. Meaning you can hear footsteps at precise directions, hear thumping explosions when you need to, or sharp gunfire. Not easy to fond headsets that balances it like this.

And we'll, yeah like you said, we are here to discuss. Thats what's this thread is for. When we have unanimous decision we place it on the chart. Maybe I should start nightly discussion topic about a random headset everyone likes.

As for that, I don't know. Halo comes to mind. Especially with the epic soundtracks and multiple types of weapons. Haha. It doesn't have to be legally free. Heheh.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 25 2014, 01:25 PM)
Reporting for duty.

But wah now all the sifu sudah keluar with high end stuff ahaha. I think suddenly a lot of people worry to sound noob if they suggest Razer headsets.  biggrin.gif

I think hard to subject gaming headphones/headsets to ranking unless it's associated with budget.
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True, when there's no given budget it is hard to recommend something. Just the same like recommending a rig.

A lot of new headphone users tend ot always ask the same question: "can recommend best headset for gaming?".
Yes indeed everyone can recommend something, but can the person buy it?

I'll try to come up with a list over the weekend as a guideline.

Oh and those who always think that Astro makes the best gaming headsets around, no they don't. They're decent indeed and they have a place in the market, but with how much they charge for their headsets they could easily improve on how they sound.


QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 25 2014, 02:06 PM)
Please la, I am not a sifu. Still noob with limited budget. Embarrassed coz I still learning how to hear the diff in sounds and only experience limited sets of headphone. Later people call me a fraud if I pretend to be sifu.  sweat.gif

But I really like to read about other peoples experience on audiophile headphones compared with gaming headsets in games. Since this thread caters more to gamer, I think more emphasis should be on quality headphones that can enhance the gaming experience.

Kind of hard to debate on value on such a subjective obsession. However I feel a lot of the sifus here got a lot of experience with diff headphones to provide a good mixture of what is expected of a headphone for it's asking price.

Edit:

Was trying to figure out what is the best games, genres, etc to test a headphone. Preferably something accessible like a Free to Play game or game demo where people can experiment with sound to 'review' their headphones. At least if we can get a list of benchmark games or demo, we have a common point to compare the differences in headphones.

Only demo I can think of is Half Life 2 : Lost Coast because it should be available for everyone though it is considered very old already, maybe 10 years.
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Indeed. Unlike recommending a PC rig, headphones are just way more subjective.
Personal taste is so important and this goes out to everyone: find someone that has similar tastes to you and see what he says about the headphones he may have tried that you have an interest on.

It depends, I believe there are 2 groups to gamers now a days. One that plays competitively and one that plays for fun in as immersive an environment as possible.

It's extremely difficult to get the best of both worlds, the HD800 may be the king of soundstage but it is far from being the best in immersion and fun. To me the HD800 is too analytical for my liking, too articulate and lacks warmth. On the other hand, fun headphones like the TH600, TH900, D7000, HE-400, Fidelio X1, Audeze LCD-2 and Ultrasone Pro 900 are all just amazing when playing single-player games. It's eargasm at its finest, but at no point are they at a godlike level of soundstage in comparison to the AD700, K702 Annies, Q701, or Sony MA900.

I haven't found a best blend of both worlds (the K712 comes really close) so I've learned to live with the compromises. I have an X1 and an AKG Annies, I use the Annies when I play competitively and listen to music. But at no point that I wouldn't use the X1 to play competitively if I don't have access to the Annies at a given time. Heck, I still use my HD558 for single-player games from time to time.


QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 02:39 PM)
Sifu to me. Haha. I also got tons more to learn headphone wise. Haven't tried out so many models.  cry.gif

Yeah that's why I said emphasis on soundstaging, width and the ability to play multiple genres. Meaning you can hear footsteps at precise directions, hear thumping explosions when you need to, or sharp gunfire. Not easy to fond headsets that balances it like this.

And we'll, yeah like you said, we are here to discuss. Thats what's this thread is for. When we have unanimous decision we place it on the chart. Maybe I should start nightly discussion topic about a random headset everyone likes.

As for that, I don't know. Halo comes to mind. Especially with the epic soundtracks and multiple types of weapons. Haha. It doesn't have to be legally free. Heheh.
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I think good games to test out competitively are those still using OpenAL. Unfortunately, those games are like a golden mine now a days and does take quite a bit of tinkering with .ini files and hex registries to work.
Mirror's Edge and L4D (the first one) are generally the go-to standard testing these days for positional accuracy.

However majority of games now a days has pre-baked sound effects. Blame consoles and blame Vista for the death of hardware audio support (though it's sorta back now in Win 8/8.1).
I know people play lots of COD and BF, many tend to take these games as the benchmark of whether a headphone/headset sounds good or not. But the problem that many don't realize is that COD and BF has some of the worst pre-mixing in modern FPS shooters.

But yeah, no two ways about it until either the devs for either franchise start doing something about it.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 25 2014, 03:33 PM)
True, when there's no given budget it is hard to recommend something. Just the same like recommending a rig.

A lot of new headphone users tend ot always ask the same question: "can recommend best headset for gaming?".
Yes indeed everyone can recommend something, but can the person buy it?

I'll try to come up with a list over the weekend as a guideline.
Awesome! I think with your experience and knowledge, it easier for you to at least narrow down a few that is worth purchasing.


QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 25 2014, 03:33 PM)
Oh and those who always think that Astro makes the best gaming headsets around, no they don't. They're decent indeed and they have a place in the market, but with how much they charge for their headsets they could easily improve on how they sound.
Indeed. Unlike recommending a PC rig, headphones are just way more subjective.
Personal taste is so important and this goes out to everyone: find someone that has similar tastes to you and see what he says about the headphones he may have tried that you have an interest on.

It depends, I believe there are 2 groups to gamers now a days. One that plays competitively and one that plays for fun in as immersive an environment as possible.

It's extremely difficult to get the best of both worlds, the HD800 may be the king of soundstage but it is far from being the best in immersion and fun. To me the HD800 is too analytical for my liking, too articulate and lacks warmth. On the other hand, fun headphones like the TH600, TH900, D7000, HE-400, Fidelio X1, Audeze LCD-2 and Ultrasone Pro 900 are all just amazing when playing single-player games. It's eargasm at its finest, but at no point are they at a godlike level of soundstage in comparison to the AD700, K702 Annies, Q701, or Sony MA900.

I haven't found a best blend of both worlds (the K712 comes really close) so I've learned to live with the compromises. I have an X1 and an AKG Annies, I use the Annies when I play competitively and listen to music. But at no point that I wouldn't use the X1 to play competitively if I don't have access to the Annies at a given time. Heck, I still use my HD558 for single-player games from time to time.
In terms of competitive I assume you're talking about FPS games where the ability to pin-point location of the sound of gun-fire, foot-steps etc. is more important than the sound of the gushing wind in open areas. Used to think that was all that mattered when choosing a gaming headphone.

And exactly like you said, some gamers want more immersiveness from the environment of their game. Not just footsteps or location by sound. I more or less figured you can't have the best of both worlds which is why it gives me reason to buy more than 2 headphones . thumbup.gif

Example I tried the ATH-AD700 before, it was great but I couldn't help notice it missed something when I played songs I like. At last settled for the closed version A700 because it sounded better for my ears and had enough bass for me. So even thought the open AD700 was the headphone of choice for games like CS:GO, I rather a bassier version A700 which is still great for CS:GO but at least covers more areas of my interest like music and other games in other genres.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 25 2014, 03:33 PM)
I think good games to test out competitively are those still using OpenAL. Unfortunately, those games are like a golden mine now a days and does take quite a bit of tinkering with .ini files and hex registries to work.
Mirror's Edge and L4D (the first one) are generally the go-to standard testing these days for positional accuracy.

However majority of games now a days has pre-baked sound effects. Blame consoles and blame Vista for the death of hardware audio support (though it's sorta back now in Win 8/8.1).
I know people play lots of COD and BF, many tend to take these games as the benchmark of whether a headphone/headset sounds good or not. But the problem that many don't realize is that COD and BF has some of the worst pre-mixing in modern FPS shooters.

But yeah, no two ways about it until either the devs for either franchise start doing something about it.
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I think most gaming headset review used the latest games since a lot of their target audience can relate to it. But yeah, I don't think games like BF3 are accurate to test positional awareness although it is better than COD I believe.

However I find most reviews of headphones do not use same benchmarks or standards when it comes to compare music. I believe this is because of their listening preference and the subjectivity of the experience. Which is why the scientific reviews using audio recording tools are still more trusted since it has actual data to be crunched.

On top of that, different reviewers use different amps, DACs, cables etc. Some reviewers use diffe equipment for diff headphones, so now their previous reviews based on other equipment are not comparable. So even in terms of hardware, there is no agreement.

At least for other PC hardware, there is a consensus of using FPS at diff resolution, graphic settings etc. to measure the ability of the object under review.

Which is why, I feel as gamers, we should have a common readily available demo or Free game can be used as a benchmark for us to compare. In my opinion anyway.

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Apr 25 2014, 04:35 PM)
Awesome! I think with your experience and knowledge, it easier for you to at least narrow down a few that is worth purchasing.
In terms of competitive I assume you're talking about FPS games where the ability to pin-point location of the sound of gun-fire, foot-steps etc. is more important than the sound of the gushing wind in open areas. Used to think that was all that mattered when choosing a gaming headphone.

And exactly like you said, some gamers want more immersiveness from the environment of their game. Not just footsteps or location by sound. I more or less figured you can't have the best of both worlds which is why it gives me reason to buy more than 2 headphones .  thumbup.gif 

Example I tried the ATH-AD700 before, it was great but I couldn't help notice it missed something when I played songs I like. At last settled for the closed version A700 because it sounded better for my ears and had enough bass for me. So even thought the open AD700 was the headphone of choice for games like CS:GO, I rather a bassier version A700 which is still great for CS:GO but at least covers more areas of my interest like music and other games in other genres.
I think most gaming headset review used the latest games since a lot of their target audience can relate to it. But yeah, I don't think games like BF3 are accurate to test positional awareness although it is better than COD I believe.

However I find most reviews of headphones do not use same benchmarks or standards when it comes to compare music. I believe this is because of their listening preference and the subjectivity of the experience. Which is why the scientific reviews using audio recording tools are still more trusted since it has actual data to be crunched.

On top of that, different reviewers use different amps, DACs, cables etc. Some reviewers use diffe equipment for diff headphones, so now their previous reviews based on other equipment are not comparable. So even in terms of hardware, there is no agreement. 

At least for other PC hardware, there is a consensus of using FPS at diff resolution, graphic settings etc. to measure the ability of the object under review.

Which is why, I feel as gamers, we should have a common readily available demo or Free game can be used as a benchmark for us to compare. In my opinion anyway.
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Yes, by competitive I'm talking about FPS games where positional accuracy is critical. Location is important, but the sense of distance is equally as important too.
There are headphones with amazingly wide soundstage, but its imaging is lacking due to poor seperation of the highs and mids.

Yeah the AD700 was so popular back in the day (still is) for CS 1.6. Too bad it is so bass shy and I personally never liked that "3D-wing" headband design, needed the rubberband mod to actually keep it from sliding off my head. The obvious upgrade from the AD700 is the AKG Q701 though.

Speaking of gaming headset reviews, the one problem with the majority of these reviews is that the reviewer does not elaborate enough on the different parts of how a headset does. More often than not, there's a 4 paragraph long praise on the design and boasting its specs, features, all of which are minor little things.
Then when it's time to talk about sound quality, it is like 3 lines long and... that's it? I'm inclined to believe that these reviewers do not know enough to review audio hardware.

As for different amps or DACs, what you say is true. But sometimes the change is needed, due to the fact that not all amps sing properly with certain headphones or vice versa with DACs. I try to always use the most popular amp/DAC setup which is widely available and affodable enough to test headphones. This way I can relay a consistent opinion and talk more about the headphone itself instead of other sources affecting its signature.

However many times, I run into issues like oh it's not that the amp doesn't have enough power, but it might just be too warm or neutral or there's a lack of synergy with the corresponding DAC. That's the reason why many veteran audiophile reviewers do not stick to one setup, they pick one which they think wouldn't alter the signature of a headphone as much as possible (which they can tell because of their experience) and then do the evaluation.

Indeed, free games as a benchmark will be great. But audio development is expensive and you know, the reason we haven't seen a single free game that sounds good is because, they're free.

Aune X1 Pro at Massdrop, $160 if there are more than 50 commited buyers by next week. Good deal.

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Speaking of the devil, the Fostex TH600 is on Massdrop for $630.
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If you wanna know my experience with it,let me know.. wink.gif

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Seeing this thread grow brings a tear to my eye. :')

And HHHHHHHHGGGGGGGNNNNN DEM MASS DROP DEALS.

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Apr 25 2014, 10:51 PM)
Ayee Liverpool fan,here's mine.Took the picture of it about a month ago. tongue.gif Edited with Twitter effects. biggrin.gif

Logitech G230 <3

If you wanna know my experience with it,let me know.. wink.gif

Btw..i'm the first Logitech User in this thread suckas!!! biggrin.gif  laugh.gif
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There was users before you but the list is so old I deleted it. tongue.gif

I think I'm in deep Shit.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 25 2014, 10:58 PM)
There was users before you but the list is so old I deleted it. tongue.gif
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But I'm proud to be the first in this version...or should i say.."Sentinel Version"? laugh.gif cool2.gif

QUOTE(Helldiver @ Apr 26 2014, 01:00 AM)
Woi, I also used to use Logitech G430 tongue.gif
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I went for the G230 during the Malaysia IT Fair in Mid Valley around the late August-to-first week of September last year..nego2 and bought it for RM185...at the same time also bought a mouse. biggrin.gif brows.gif brows.gif

I nearly went for G430,but oh well,my money are well spent. icon_rolleyes.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 26 2014, 01:07 AM)
I think I'm in deep Shit.

SSJBen look at this TEMPTATION
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Hmmm... $485 for a 4 month old HD650 + Vali + Modi?
I'd say it's a good deal.

But oi, you already set to buy Alpha Dogs this Tuesday, so forget it. whistling.gif

Well, just keep an eye out on the K712 for whoever is interested. I expect it to drop in price soon, perhaps closer to the $330-$350 range.

I do think the K712 is a great headphone though, I'm using the K702 Annies however. But I do think the K712's pads (thicker than the K702) does add a little bit of bass bloat, I mean the Annies are just so nicely balanced already and that switch to the K712's pads sort of makes it a little more 'fun' to listen to, but less analytical.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 26 2014, 01:16 AM)
Hmmm... $485 for a 4 month old HD650 + Vali + Modi?
I'd say it's a good deal.

But oi, you already set to buy Alpha Dogs this Tuesday, so forget it.  whistling.gif
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It's an insane deal. Shite man. So tempting.

Eh dunno yet lah. Haven't tried yet. Hehehe. Maybe go crazy and end up with TH900. tongue.gif

QUOTE(kenysl @ Apr 26 2014, 07:38 AM)
Maybe should add a ELI5 audio terms dictionary to the first post so newcomers like me can understand laugh.gif
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You mean that Reddit Explain in 5 Mins thingamajig? Probably would be useful. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 26 2014, 03:08 PM)
You mean that Reddit Explain in 5 Mins thingamajig? Probably would be useful.  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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actually is Explain Like I'm 5
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QUOTE(kenysl @ Apr 26 2014, 08:06 PM)
actually is Explain Like I'm 5
but closeenough.jpg laugh.gif
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Half the explanations there are beyond the comprehension of a 5 year old. Hahaha. But yeah it has some useful stuff. Added two articles in the front. Let me know if you find any good ones. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(bl@ze @ Apr 26 2014, 09:52 PM)
Have you guys read the thread on Mad Lust Envy's gaming headphones roundup on head-fi?
It's more console-focused but some good info there too.
I'm not sure if we can link to other forums here though :S
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Eh chill lah no issue one. Share the link here. Always look forward to reading mass reviews for true comparisons.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 26 2014, 10:42 PM)
Eh chill lah no issue one. Share the link here. Always look forward to reading mass reviews for true comparisons.
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Here's the link. For a newbie to gaming headphones i learned a lot reading this
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-e...pro-added-edits

He reviewed the Alpha Dogs too, might be worth a read bro brows.gif

Am I the only one that gets turned on by the TH900's earcups..looks so silky smooth you can swim in it haha..

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Apr 26 2014, 11:19 PM)
Here's the link. For a newbie to gaming headphones i learned a lot reading this
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-e...pro-added-edits

He reviewed the Alpha Dogs too, might be worth a read bro  brows.gif
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Daaaaamn clever ah you cari ada alpha dogs. Hahaha.

Good nice concise review. Really wanna try the AKG 712 though. Jaben never had a demo whenever I was there. Maybe E1 will have it when I go on Tuesday.

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And just a short description of the sound:

Music wise: Best way to describe it is that it gives a very warm tone over less BASS-DROP-DESTROY-SHATTER-YOUR-BONES songs, such as vocal-focused songs or ballads; I find it works very well with jazz music, good bass and warm highs and mids. If you listen to EDMs or those very bass heavy songs, prepare Panadol rclxub.gif

Game wise: Soundstage is pretty good to me, (tested with Sudden Attack (free MMOFPS), L4D2 (haven't tried with Razer's Surround Sound software yet) and Bioshock Infinite) I can tell where everything is very well, footsteps, drops, bombs, weapon changing of my opponents, their reloads. For something so small the soundstage is quite impressive rclxms.gif Explosions and all that effects and dialogues also sound very nice on the Hammerhead Pro, as what you would expect: the bass really kicks in the BOOOOOOOOOOOOMS flex.gif

The microphone also works pretty well, but sometimes I make phone calls with my phone people can't hear me quite well; Skype works flawlessly though.

I find its much better sounding that other Razer headphones like the Kraken or Electra. smile.gif

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 27 2014, 03:39 AM)
Well, just keep an eye out on the K712 for whoever is interested. I expect it to drop in price soon, perhaps closer to the $330-$350 range.

I do think the K712 is a great headphone though, I'm using the K702 Annies however. But I do think the K712's pads (thicker than the K702) does add a little bit of bass bloat, I mean the Annies are just so nicely balanced already and that switch to the K712's pads sort of makes it a little more 'fun' to listen to, but less analytical.
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I like that price drop. drool.gif

Well, I don't really like headsets that are too analytical, flat and dry, extremely neutral or have sparkling highs. Nothing better then a warm and fun headset. For me at least. But again I need to try it all out first. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 27 2014, 02:40 PM)
I like that price drop.  drool.gif

Well, I don't really like headsets that are too analytical, flat and dry, extremely neutral or have sparkling highs. Nothing better then a warm and fun headset. For me at least. But again I need to try it all out first.  hmm.gif
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OH nuuu. The K7xx is NEVER entirely neutral or overly articulate. Never!
It's extremely balanced, bass hits with plenty of body when there is bass in a track. Mids are fluid and rich with detail (though not as engaging as the HD650) and treble sparks with energy when they are told to.

I was only making a relative comparison between the K702 Annies and K712, they are really nearly identical to one another except for the slightly more fun sigature the K712 has. Something that can be easily rectified by swapping the default Annies pads for the K712. The Annies and K712 are fun headphones to listen to, very enjoyable for all types of genres and usage.

If I had to be deserted on an island with just a DAP, I'd happily take the Annies with me anyday.

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Heapdhones = as it is, headphones by itself.

At least that's how I view them.
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Did anyone mentioned Steelseries 7H in the V1 thread?

Awesome gaming headset, great sound, superb comfort, clear microphone, the soundstage is not actually as wide as Sennheiser HD 555, but you can still pinpoint your enemy location through 7.1 surround sound. I must admit I'm really stupid for selling it cry.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 27 2014, 03:54 PM)
OH nuuu. The K7xx is NEVER entirely neutral or overly articulate. Never!
It's extremely balanced, bass hits with plenty of body when there is bass in a track. Mids are fluid and rich with detail (though not as engaging as the HD650) and treble sparks with energy when they are told to.

I was only making a relative comparison between the K702 Annies and K712, they are really nearly identical to one another except for the slightly more fun sigature the K712 has. Something that can be easily rectified by swapping the default Annies pads for the K712. The Annies and K712 are fun headphones to listen to, very enjoyable for all types of genres and usage.

If I had to be deserted on an island with just a DAP, I'd happily take the Annies with me anyday.

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Heapdhones = as it is, headphones by itself.

At least that's how I view them.
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Hahahahah no no no, I was saying generally. I don't like headsets which are too flat, dry and neutral or having eardrum shredding treble. Not the AKGs. laugh.gif

I will have to try the K702 and 712 myself too and see how they perform against my intended target the Alpha Dog. Huehuehue.

Boss you sure ah Tuesday boleh?
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QUOTE(MuhdYusri @ Apr 27 2014, 06:56 PM)
Did anyone mentioned Steelseries 7H in the V1 thread?

Awesome gaming headset, great sound, superb comfort, clear microphone, the soundstage is not actually as wide as Sennheiser HD 555, but you can still pinpoint your enemy location through 7.1 surround sound. I must admit I'm really stupid for selling it  cry.gif
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Given that it is a closed-ear headset, it has fairly decent imaging. The CAL! has better sense of depth though, airier and is more immersive than the 7H.

The deal breaker of the 7H? It breaks all the time.
Just look at the amount of complaints from it. doh.gif


QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 27 2014, 07:00 PM)
Hahahahah no no no, I was saying generally. I don't like headsets which are too flat, dry and neutral or having eardrum shredding treble. Not the AKGs. laugh.gif

I will have to try the K702 and 712 myself too and see how they perform against my intended target the Alpha Dog. Huehuehue.

Boss you sure ah Tuesday boleh?
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Expecting the Annies to be airier FWIR, with more lush mids. Otherwise, I think the Alpha Dogs might just beat the Annies on refinement alone.

Most probably fine for this Tuesday, though not sure yet at the same time. I'll drop you a PM tomorrow.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 27 2014, 11:13 PM)
Expecting the Annies to be airier FWIR, with more lush mids. Otherwise, I think the Alpha Dogs might just beat the Annies on refinement alone.

Most probably fine for this Tuesday, though not sure yet at the same time. I'll drop you a PM tomorrow.
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We will wait till Tuesday to test it side by side hahah. But if you can't make it let me know early.

QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 28 2014, 05:05 PM)
Well it was fun while it last, HD681EVO rubber headband snaps, is there any work around for this?
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Doesnt Superlux have a local distro you can turn to?

QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Apr 28 2014, 05:11 PM)
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Sure thing boss!
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 28 2014, 06:44 PM)
Doesnt Superlux have a local distro you can turn to?
Sure thing boss!
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Superlux have local distro? The con about superlux is the warranty, only cover 2 weeks after that is repair only. :/

I bought it from Zavier18, already pm him though, waiting for his reply.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 28 2014, 06:07 PM)
Superlux have local distro? The con about superlux is the warranty, only cover 2 weeks after that is repair only. :/
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Hey, it's cheap as hell, whaddya expect. Hahaha.

Who did you get it from? Maybe can ask them for help?

QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 28 2014, 07:05 PM)
I bought it from Zavier18, already pm him though, waiting for his reply.
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Hopefully it'll get resolved soon.

Couldn't help myself. Going to try the Alpha Dogs now. brows.gif

Edit:

Okay report time.

1. Alpha Dogs
Solid precise bass. Very meaty lower end which gives frequencies between bass and mids very nice depth. The mid's itself,very very lush, forward without being annoying. Female voices sound so Damn sexy. Nice. Non sparkling highs.

Tested it against the Shure SRH1540, which was more sharp, clear, but loses in the mids, bass and soundstage department. Sounded close and forward by comparison.

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THEN I MADE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE. Going to Jaben right after. cry.gif

2. JVC DX2000.
I use to think it's neutral by after the Alpha Dogs it has a V shape I never realised. The mids sounded recessed by comparison. Bass is as good as Alphas though. Not as tight and controlled, but bigger solid punch (not the boomy kind)

3. Fostex TH900.
Oh Lord. The bass. The EPIC bass. Such beautiful sharp yet clear mids. Wonderful treble. Best treble I've ever heard. And of course, the price.

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SO MUCH REGRET. SSJBen
But I'll think I'll get the Alpha and the Fostex HP-V1 Amplifier. Beast of an amp.
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I think the Magni doesn't do the Alpha Dogs justice. The HP-V1 is a sick amp though.

Told you so on the TH900, now you understand why I had such an insane impulse buy on that? Forget Alpha Dogs lah, get TH900 only. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 1 2014, 01:02 AM)
I think the Magni doesn't do the Alpha Dogs justice. The HP-V1 is a sick amp though.

Told you so on the TH900, now you understand why I had such an insane impulse buy on that? Forget Alpha Dogs lah, get TH900 only. whistling.gif
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Yeah the Magni was struggling. I think the HP V1 and the Alpha will be my current endgame.

You nuts? It's three times the price. THREE TIMES. I tried it with lower end amps, bUT with the HP V1 I could only stand for 15 seconds. Any longer and my self restraint would crumble. It was THAT good. I'm hearing things even the Alphas, Beyer T5P, HD700 wasn't showing. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 1 2014, 01:06 AM)
Yeah the Magni was struggling. I think the HP V1 and the Alpha will be my current endgame.

You nuts? It's three times the price. THREE TIMES. I tried it with lower end amps, bUT with the HP V1 I could only stand for 15 seconds. Any longer and my self restraint would crumble. It was THAT good. I'm hearing things even the Alphas, Beyer T5P, HD700 wasn't showing.  rclxub.gif
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Alpha Dogs + HPV1 sounds like a legit choice.
Then maybe in the future you know, your ears itch and you get the TH900 out of no where. I think now I've gotta go listen to the HPV1 myself, I don't even consider it a portable amp anymore at this point. Fostex should have just made it a full desktop amp instead.

How much is the HPV1 going for?

You're giving me the itch to re-buy my TH900... and then proceed to some mods.

I regreted back then on not switching to angled pads and recabling the stock cable (which was slightly high in impedance). So the TH900 is near perfect for a closed headphone, but it has this minor niggling things that could be done to make it better.

Lawton Audio does some mods for the TH900, not the best but they're still good - http://www.lawtonaudio.com/page68.html
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 1 2014, 01:18 AM)
Alpha Dogs + HPV1 sounds like a legit choice.
Then maybe in the future you know, your ears itch and you get the TH900 out of no where. I think now I've gotta go listen to the HPV1 myself, I don't even consider it a portable amp anymore at this point. Fostex should have just made it a full desktop amp instead.

How much is the HPV1 going for?
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Yup, both are of similar price range. Plus both add up to pretty much the price of the DX2000 I was going for originally. So good deal.

That one future we let it be lah. By the time get Fostex TH900 I would have gotten a Grace Design m920. brows.gif drool.gif

Yeah bro, pick your favorite song, plus the HPV1. Let the TH900 rip. And get sent straight to nirvana. Let me know when you wanna go. It's at NuSentral only.

RM2199. Of course being loyal jaben customer that I am, sure got discount lah.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 1 2014, 04:32 PM)
You're giving me the itch to re-buy my TH900... and then proceed to some mods.

I regreted back then on not switching to angled pads and recabling the stock cable (which was slightly high in impedance). So the TH900 is near perfect for a closed headphone, but it has this minor niggling things that could be done to make it better.

Lawton Audio does some mods for the TH900, not the best but they're still good - http://www.lawtonaudio.com/page68.html
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@.@ those mods are gonna cost an absolute Shit ton.

Me jelly. I can't even afford a single TH900. cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 1 2014, 06:38 PM)
@.@ those mods are gonna cost an absolute Shit ton.

Me jelly. I can't even afford a single TH900.  cry.gif  cry.gif
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You'll get it sooner rather than later.
When are you getting your Alpha Dogs?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 1 2014, 09:55 PM)
You'll get it sooner rather than later.
When are you getting your Alpha Dogs?
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Not now lah. Maybe in two months time when I finish my exams and my rig. Plus I need to order anyways since E1 has no ready stock except for the demo set. And plan for that epic amp too.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Apr 30 2014, 03:35 PM)
Couldn't help myself. Going to try the Alpha Dogs now. brows.gif

Edit:

Okay report time.

1. Alpha Dogs
Solid precise bass. Very meaty lower end which gives frequencies between bass and mids very nice depth. The mid's itself,very very lush, forward without being annoying. Female voices sound so Damn sexy. Nice. Non sparkling highs.

Tested it against the Shure SRH1540, which was more sharp, clear, but loses in the mids, bass and soundstage department. Sounded close and forward by comparison.

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THEN I MADE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE. Going to Jaben right after.  cry.gif

2. JVC DX2000.
I use to think it's neutral by after the Alpha Dogs it has a V shape I never realised. The mids sounded recessed by comparison. Bass is as good as Alphas though. Not as tight and controlled, but bigger solid punch (not the boomy kind)

3. Fostex TH900.
Oh Lord. The bass. The EPIC bass. Such beautiful sharp yet clear mids. Wonderful treble. Best treble I've ever heard. And of course, the price.

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SO MUCH REGRET. SSJBen
But I'll think I'll get the Alpha and the Fostex HP-V1 Amplifier. Beast of an amp.
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Meh,i don't understand those headsets with amps,makes me think it's the "Out Of This World" kind of Headsets.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ May 2 2014, 04:26 PM)
@@ This thread like becoming audiophile thread
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Perhaps.

But we're just trying to bring better audio to gamers. It's just so, so, sad to see gamers being short-changed for amount of crap so many gaming manufacturers make these days.
These gaming companies are getting better, which is a good thing. But they are still far from being worth the price they are asking for.


QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 2 2014, 10:13 PM)
Am I the only one that gets turned on by the TH900's earcups..looks so silky smooth you can swim in it haha..
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Yes they are a beauty alright. That Urushi lacquer, just stunning stuff.
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Just wanna share a recent experience.

I dunno if anybody noticed but I saw All IT selling Creative F4tal1ty gaming headset MKII for RM49.90, Tactic3D Sigma and Alpha for RM199. I was tempted to buy the MKII but ended up getting the Sigma instead. I'm not an audiophille and I dunno how to tell the diff between a senheiser and a Sonic Gear just by hearing them. But on my purchase of the Sigma, I totally for the 1st time realized how crappy Sonic Gear and the likes and built-in Realtek sound really are. I get a feeling I may wanna try the Aurvanna in the future... LOL laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ May 2 2014, 04:26 PM)
@@ This thread like becoming audiophile thread
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Hey, we are using it for gamong also right? Hahaha.

But it's more of new subs are rare. Despite the old thread hitting 35K posts, remember it was 6 years old. Most threads takes 4 months plus tops to hit 25K.

QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 2 2014, 10:13 PM)
Am I the only one that gets turned on by the TH900's earcups..looks so silky smooth you can swim in it haha..
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Oh I was swimming in it when i auditioned it alright. Hahaha.

QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 5 2014, 03:27 PM)
Just wanna share a recent experience.

I dunno if anybody noticed but I saw All IT selling Creative F4tal1ty gaming headset MKII for RM49.90, Tactic3D Sigma and Alpha for RM199. I was tempted to buy the MKII but ended up getting the Sigma instead. I'm not an audiophille and I dunno how to tell the diff between a senheiser and a Sonic Gear just by hearing them. But on my purchase of the Sigma, I totally for the 1st time realized how crappy Sonic Gear and the likes and built-in Realtek sound really are. I get a feeling I may wanna try the Aurvanna in the future... LOL laugh.gif
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Hahahah. Sonic Gear has always been making crappy stuff. Once bought a cheap headset from them 6 years ago. Damn thing spoilt right after I opened it. I mean, c'mon. After that day I swore to never touch Sonic Gear again.

You can always start slow though. Try brands like Superlux or even Shures which they have models around 200-350 (SRH240 and SRH440) which makes perfectly good yet for value headsets. smile.gif

Also, differentiating between headsets takes time and experience. You'll have to fully understand a headset, it's characteristics, it's sound signature, before you can truly compare with another. But no worries, we can help you out here

Getting the Audeze LCD2 and Continental V3 amp. Already got my hands on a Cypher Labs Algorythm Solo -DB.

This is not gonna end well for me.
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ May 2 2014, 04:26 PM)
@@ This thread like becoming audiophile thread
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Gaming headsets nowadays become more sophisticated...

QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 3 2014, 05:08 PM)
Perhaps.

But we're just trying to bring better audio to gamers. It's just so, so, sad to see gamers being short-changed for amount of crap so many gaming manufacturers make these days.
These gaming companies are getting better, which is a good thing. But they are still far from being worth the price they are asking for.
Yes they are a beauty alright. That Urushi lacquer, just stunning stuff.
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So what is your personal opinion of steelseries wireless h headset?
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 5 2014, 03:27 PM)
Just wanna share a recent experience.

I dunno if anybody noticed but I saw All IT selling Creative F4tal1ty gaming headset MKII for RM49.90, Tactic3D Sigma and Alpha for RM199. I was tempted to buy the MKII but ended up getting the Sigma instead. I'm not an audiophille and I dunno how to tell the diff between a senheiser and a Sonic Gear just by hearing them. But on my purchase of the Sigma, I totally for the 1st time realized how crappy Sonic Gear and the likes and built-in Realtek sound really are. I get a feeling I may wanna try the Aurvanna in the future... LOL laugh.gif
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Your journey has just begun. Muahahahaha

Yeah, start slow and if you have a budget and wish to improve your listening experience, always try out audiophile headphones. It's normally a much better listening experience if compared to 'gaming' headsets at the same price point.

Creative's Aurvana Live! or CAL is one of the most popular and also highly recommended headphone for it's price range. It recently got a price reduction since Creative have launched their CAL!2. Whichever you choose to spend your budget, always read up on reviews and if possible test the headphones first before making your purchase.
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QUOTE(zad78 @ May 5 2014, 07:22 PM)
So what is your personal opinion of steelseries wireless h headset?
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Haven't listened to it yet, so I can't personally comment from how well it does.

But from what I know to a person who has similar tastes to mine in audio, he said that he was surprised at the Steelseries H. It's not actually bad, quite decent. Bass is fairly on the neutral side (odd, considering it is a closed design), mids aren't too upfront and that presents a bit of an airy soundstage and I forgot what he said other than that.

RM1k+ is quite a bit to ask for from a wireless headset though, unless you absolutely cannot stand wires I don't see the point in paying that much for a headset. However, I want to be proven wrong so hopefully someone from SteelSeries can hook me up with a review unit somehow. Heh.

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 5 2014, 08:17 PM)
Getting the Audeze LCD2 and Continental V3 amp. Already got my hands on a Cypher Labs Algorythm Solo -DB.

This is not gonna end well for me.
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Why suddenly going for LCD2? I love the Continental V3, another brilliant vacuum amp. The lush, warm and fluid mids from it fitted really well with the HE-400 and DT990Pro I tested with it before.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 5 2014, 10:30 PM)
Why suddenly going for LCD2? I love the Continental V3, another brilliant vacuum amp. The lush, warm and fluid mids from it fitted really well with the HE-400 and DT990Pro I tested with it before.
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Tell that to Joshua. Bigger poisoned me to no end. Hahahhaa. I'll try it out this Friday. If I feel it isn't worth it I'll stick to the cheaper Alphas.

Whoa, you actually tried it? The V3 is out of stock now unfortunately. Hopefully I can get my hands on one. Only heard brilliant things about it.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 5 2014, 10:35 PM)
Tell that to Joshua. Bigger poisoned me to no end. Hahahhaa. I'll try it out this Friday. If I feel it isn't worth it I'll stick to the cheaper Alphas.

Whoa, you actually tried it? The V3 is out of stock now unfortunately. Hopefully I can get my hands on one. Only heard brilliant things about it.
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Why not LCD-X? icon_idea.gif

Anyways, yeah I tried the V3 a few months back. Only thing I didn't like about it is the the battery life, it is rated at up to 8 hours but from my experience it dies out after 5-6 hours. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 5 2014, 10:36 PM)
Why not LCD-X? icon_idea.gif

Anyways, yeah I tried the V3 a few months back. Only thing I didn't like about it is the the battery life, it is rated at up to 8 hours but from my experience it dies out after 5-6 hours. sweat.gif
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No, just no. Haha haha. Wallet koyak as it is already. Looooool. I'll try the LCD2 and see first. I know he has a LCDX but that one might need proper desktop setup. Which my budget can't support currently.

Hmmm, it's gonna be on my desk most of the time so I guess battery life should be okay. Haha. Any other complaints about the V3? What's the best portable amp you've tested so far?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 5 2014, 10:40 PM)
No, just no. Haha haha. Wallet koyak as it is already. Looooool. I'll try the LCD2 and see first. I know he has a LCDX but that one might need proper desktop setup. Which my budget can't support currently.

Hmmm, it's gonna be on my desk most of the time so I guess battery life should be okay. Haha. Any other complaints about the V3? What's the best portable amp you've tested so far?
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Fair enough. I personally didn't like the LCD2 enough to warrant me keeping them, the one thing that irks me is the weight. To me at least, the weight on the LCD-2 seems somewhat unbalanced. Where I had no problems wearing the HE-400/HE-500, the LCD2 seems very odd in having some sort of pressure that transfers to my neck. I usually feel discomfort after about an hour of usage but I also know many people who has no issues with it. Hopefully it's a different experience for you.

That's quite a tough question. The Continental V3 definitely ranks up there, I have not heard the Fostex HP-V1 enough so can't comment on it. Unfortunately my experience with portable amps are centered around reasonably priced solid state ones like the FiiO range, HiPPo, iBasso and so on. Haven't really peeked into the recent craze over hybrid vacuum tubes yet.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 5 2014, 08:13 PM)
Haven't listened to it yet, so I can't personally comment from how well it does.

But from what I know to a person who has similar tastes to mine in audio, he said that he was surprised at the Steelseries H. It's not actually bad, quite decent. Bass is fairly on the neutral side (odd, considering it is a closed design), mids aren't too upfront and that presents a bit of an airy soundstage and I forgot what he said other than that.

RM1k+ is quite a bit to ask for from a wireless headset though, unless you absolutely cannot stand wires I don't see the point in paying that much for a headset. However, I want to be proven wrong so hopefully someone from SteelSeries can hook me up with a review unit somehow. Heh.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 5 2014, 10:57 PM)
Fair enough. I personally didn't like the LCD2 enough to warrant me keeping them, the one thing that irks me is the weight. To me at least, the weight on the LCD-2 seems somewhat unbalanced. Where I had no problems wearing the HE-400/HE-500, the LCD2 seems very odd in having some sort of pressure that transfers to my neck. I usually feel discomfort after about an hour of usage but I also know many people who has no issues with it. Hopefully it's a different experience for you.

That's quite a tough question. The Continental V3 definitely ranks up there, I have not heard the Fostex HP-V1 enough so can't comment on it. Unfortunately my experience with portable amps are centered around reasonably priced solid state ones like the FiiO range, HiPPo, iBasso and so on. Haven't really peeked into the recent craze over hybrid vacuum tubes yet.
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Hmmm, I hope the weight won't be an issue. I'll see how when I test it this Friday. I'm more concerned about the sound. Hahah. I have a huge head after all too. The SRH1540 barely could handle at max length. Lolz.

Yeah same here. Mostly tried sub 1k amps from FiiO, Ibasso and the likes too. The HP V1 was my first true high end amp. Hopefully the V3 can surpass it. biggrin.gif

Or hmmmmm, you free this Friday? We go poison ourselves. Haha haha.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 5 2014, 06:34 PM)
You can always start slow though. Try brands like Superlux or even Shures which they have models around 200-350 (SRH240 and SRH440) which makes perfectly good yet for value headsets. smile.gif

Also, differentiating between headsets takes time and experience. You'll have to fully understand a headset, it's characteristics, it's sound signature, before you can truly compare with another. But no worries, we can help you out here
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LOL. Superflux is new to me. Shures I have read up some about them recently.


QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ May 5 2014, 07:58 PM)
Yeah, start slow and if you have a budget and wish to improve your listening experience, always try out audiophile headphones. It's normally a much better listening experience if compared to 'gaming' headsets at the same price point.

Creative's Aurvana Live! or CAL is one of the most popular and also highly recommended headphone for it's price range. It recently got a price reduction since Creative have launched their CAL!2. Whichever you choose to spend your budget, always read up on reviews and if possible test the headphones first before making your purchase.
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I have actually considered getting audiophile headphones/headsets earlier on but I don't have a good sound card to pair up with and I have also read that these headphones/headsets only work best with a good sound card or a good playback device. For me to get a sound card, I would consider to either get the Titanium HD or the Xonar Phoebus in the future if I see a need to. hmm.gif

I haven't got any that's y I gone for the Sigma with detachable USB sound card instead of CAL. Not really ready to spend 1k or more for an entire setup yet... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 5 2014, 11:05 PM)
Hmmm, I hope the weight won't be an issue. I'll see how when I test it this Friday. I'm more concerned about the sound. Hahah. I have a huge head after all too. The SRH1540 barely could handle at max length. Lolz.

Yeah same here. Mostly tried sub 1k amps from FiiO, Ibasso and the likes too. The HP V1 was my first true high end amp. Hopefully the V3 can surpass it. biggrin.gif

Or hmmmmm, you free this Friday? We go poison ourselves. Haha haha.
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Yes indeed. I always found that a portable amp should do what it says, be portable.
The HP-V1 to me wasn't really that portable, sure it's no bigger than a Note 3 in width and length but that thickness is carrying a half-sawed off brick even if it isn't as heavy as it looks.

So.. yeah. I'd want to consider them as stationary desktop units but then again no as there are better desktop amps at the same $500+ price point.

This Friday? Probably not free. Have some projects to finish up on, including a review of... an Aune X1 Pro.


QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 6 2014, 10:07 AM)
LOL. Superflux is new to me. Shures I have read up some about them recently.
I have actually considered getting audiophile headphones/headsets earlier on but I don't have a good sound card to pair up with and I have also read that these headphones/headsets only work best with a good sound card or a good playback device. For me to get a sound card, I would consider to either get the Titanium HD or the Xonar Phoebus in the future if I see a need to. hmm.gif

I haven't got any that's y I gone for the Sigma with detachable USB sound card instead of CAL. Not really ready to spend 1k or more for an entire setup yet... laugh.gif
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Neither the Titanium HD nor Xonar Phoebus are good candidates as a soundcard for headphone usage. Reason being they have no dedicated headphone amp and the THD actually uses its pre-amp lineout which is extremely high in output impedance (36ohms). The THD was meant for use with speakers first and foremost.
Many people who uses the THD always adds a headphone amp inbetween the chain to alleviate this problem (of which I did too), but at that point you'd be nearly spending 1k already for your entire setup.

So you've gotta decide if you want virtual surround or not first. If you do, then there's no escaping a soundcard for the required DSP (for now, until AMD's TrueAudio takes off properly). Then, what headphones would you be using? Chances are you may not even need a whole dedicated external DAC+Amp setup and may just need a cheap Xonar DGX.
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Steelseries Siberia V2 here + Shure SRH940 + Beyer XP3. The latter 2 rarely used except for when I need more isolation.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 6 2014, 01:38 PM)
So you've gotta decide if you want virtual surround or not first. If you do, then there's no escaping a soundcard for the required DSP (for now, until AMD's TrueAudio takes off properly). Then, what headphones would you be using? Chances are you may not even need a whole dedicated external DAC+Amp setup and may just need a cheap Xonar DGX.
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I had bad experiences with virtual surround but the creative tactic3d usb adapter (came with the sigma) impressed me enough to sort of want it... tongue.gif

I think it's more of what type of headset/headphone and speaker I will use in the future. I use my main PC mostly for gaming and torrenting and sort of media server. If you put it this way, I guess I should replace the Titanium HD with Xonar essense STX instead or the Xonar U7? To me, sound card will probably outlast the rest of my PC components by 2 generations or more so might as well get something awesome 1 shot.

Besides the sigma I also have a Beyerdynamics XP2 IEM. Honestly this gave me the best experience with watever device I use it with even my phone. I guess it's due to the lower power requirement? I use this on my office laptop and my phone.

QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ May 6 2014, 02:33 PM)
Steelseries Siberia V2 here + Shure SRH940 + Beyer XP3. The latter 2 rarely used except for when I need more isolation.
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Just curious, why the Siberia when u got a Shure? blink.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 6 2014, 02:37 PM)
Just curious, why the Siberia when u got a Shure? blink.gif
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Because mic. I sometimes wear both using the Siberia's mic.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ May 6 2014, 02:39 PM)
Because mic. I sometimes wear both using the Siberia's mic.
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Oh... yeah. How about combine with external mic? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 6 2014, 02:43 PM)
Oh... yeah. How about combine with external mic? hmm.gif
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Seems a bit too obstructive for me while playing dota lol. Plus I might accidentally knock it or something.
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 6 2014, 02:12 PM)
I had bad experiences with virtual surround but the creative tactic3d usb adapter (came with the sigma) impressed me enough to sort of want it...  tongue.gif

I think it's more of what type of headset/headphone and speaker I will use in the future. I use my main PC mostly for gaming and torrenting and sort of media server. If you put it this way, I guess I should replace the Titanium HD with Xonar essense STX instead or the Xonar U7? To me, sound card will probably outlast the rest of my PC components by 2 generations or more so might as well get something awesome 1 shot.

Besides the sigma I also have a Beyerdynamics XP2 IEM. Honestly this gave me the best experience with watever device I use it with even my phone. I guess it's due to the lower power requirement? I use this on my office laptop and my phone.
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Well, an external DAC+amp would work for a speaker setup too. It doesn't have to justs be headphones. The quality in external DACs are most of the time far superior to what you'll get on soundcards, even entry level setups.
The Titanium HD, Essence STX, and Creative's latest ZxR are fair exceptions to that rule. If you have no use for virtual surround DSPs, then I see no point in getting a soundcard to be quite honest.

Just checked, the Sigma comes with a USB adapter that provides SBX. I like SBX a lot too, probably my favourite out of all the virtual DSPs out there.

No, you don't need a soundcard anymore if you get an external DAC+amp setup. But as said, only if you don't want to utilize virtual surround which I think now you kinda want it?

Otherwise the soundcard is pointless as you can't have 2 DACs in your audio chain. It's source (PC or whatever else) > DAC > amp > headphone/speakers.
You'd obviously need a DAC with optical input so you can bypass the DAC on a soundcard if you decide to go that route.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 6 2014, 02:53 PM)
If you have no use for virtual surround DSPs, then I see no point in getting a soundcard to be quite honest.
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Like I said... I just got impressed by Creative's Tactic 3D's surround sound. I once lost interest in virtual surround sound since I 1st bought 1 of those A4tech units. Can't recall that model. If I get an external DAC + amp, do I still really need a sound card? hmm.gif

QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 6 2014, 03:23 PM)
Just checked, the Sigma comes with a USB adapter that provides SBX. I like SBX a lot too, probably my favourite out of all the virtual DSPs out there.

No, you don't need a soundcard anymore if you get an external DAC+amp setup. But as said, only if you don't want to utilize virtual surround which I think now you kinda want it?

Otherwise the soundcard is pointless as you can't have 2 DACs in your audio chain. It's source (PC or whatever else) > DAC > amp > headphone/speakers.
You'd obviously need a DAC with optical input so you can bypass the DAC on a soundcard if you decide to go that route.
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Virtual surround can get from Razer surround app liao these days... I think DAC + Razer surround app should be able to provide wat I want in the future... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 6 2014, 03:28 PM)
Virtual surround can get from Razer surround app liao these days... I think DAC + Razer surround app should be able to provide wat I want in the future... hmm.gif
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But Razer surround sucks, IMO. There's almost zero rear cues (which is half the point of having virtual surround), the left and right has channel imblance.
Virtual surround DSPs sound different, it's not just pick one and be done with it.

Let your ears be the judge:



Listen with headphones, in plain stereo, no EQs and nothing else enabled.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 6 2014, 03:39 PM)
But Razer surround sucks, IMO. There's almost zero rear cues (which is half the point of having virtual surround), the left and right has channel imblance.
Virtual surround DSPs sound different, it's not just pick one and be done with it.
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the uploader did mentioned that it's not calibrated and once calibrated it can sound noticeably better...

But my point is, virtual surround is optional to me... not a necessity since it's emulated anyway... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ May 6 2014, 03:57 PM)
the uploader did mentioned that it's not calibrated and once calibrated it can sound noticeably better...

But my point is, virtual surround is optional to me... not a necessity since it's emulated anyway... laugh.gif
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Personally, no matter how much calibration I did, I couldn't even get Razer surround to have proper rear cues. I even went as far to edit its .ini and .bat settings, none of which helped. Have already went great lengths to try and make Razer surround work, but it doesn't, at least not in its current form. Razer surround could have been big, because paying Dolby or THX for their license is incredibly expensive and a free method would have been a great way for use with many other DACs that does not nessasarily has optical inputs.

Well okay then, instead of the Titanium HD (which you'll want to add an amp in between), the best alternative to go for is a Soundblaster Z. Much cheaper, doesn't really sound "worse".

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 7 2014, 12:46 AM)
Oh my... and then there's the HE-400i coming too. icon_question.gif
Part of me feels bad on not pre-ordering the HE-560... sigh.

Anyways, I've been thorougly impressed with the new Aune X1 Pro. I think this is it for arguably the best price-performance amp/DAC all-in-one that one can find right now.
It's cheaper than the Audio GD NFB15.32 and doesn't need to be bought seperately like the popular FiiO E17+E09k or Schiit Magni & Modi stack.

Oh my. Why lookie here - Fostex TH900 for $1249. ohmy.gif
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Hmm... which gaming headset should i get? if my budget is around rm 200?

If possible i wan my headset to come with these features:
-surround sound
-good bass
-Good at music listening
- have mic

so far, i only saw that suit my needs is armageddon zx100 .


any other recommendations?
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 11 2014, 05:54 PM)
Hmm... which gaming headset should i get? if my budget is around rm 200?

If possible  i wan my headset to come with these features:
-surround sound
-good bass
-Good at music listening
- have mic

so far, i only saw that suit my needs is armageddon zx100 .
any other recommendations?
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Go for the Logitech G230, no surround sound but it's a good set from the feedback I seen
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ May 12 2014, 09:51 AM)
Go for the Logitech G230, no surround sound but it's a good set from the feedback I seen
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The bass nice?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 7 2014, 01:57 AM)
Oh my... and then there's the HE-400i coming too. icon_question.gif
Part of me feels bad on not pre-ordering the HE-560... sigh.

Anyways, I've been thorougly impressed with the new Aune X1 Pro. I think this is it for arguably the best price-performance amp/DAC all-in-one that one can find right now.
It's cheaper than the Audio GD NFB15.32 and doesn't need to be bought seperately like the popular FiiO E17+E09k or Schiit Magni & Modi stack.
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Hahahaha. Somebody's wallet is itchy now. tongue.gif

Tried the GoVibe Porta Tube+ today. It was horrendous. Treble was Sharp and not controlled. Mids was nice though. The Sony Amps were even worse. Magni and Modi didn't really impressed me thought that day. Struggled with high end headphones.

Also tried the TH900, HD650, Audio Technica W3000ANV, Beyerdynamic T1 and T5P today. Still prefer the T900 despite being a little more muddled than the T1. Best in bass and overall sound department. The beyers take for vocals and soundstaging. The audio techinca is crap for that price. Gonna try the Audeze LCD2 on Friday.

Speaking if which, after I get the Cypher Labs + Continental V3 or HP V1 combo, I'm selling off my Fiio E17.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 10 2014, 04:30 AM)
Oh my. Why lookie here - Fostex TH900 for $1249. ohmy.gif
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Too late. Already goT a deal for an Audeze LCD2. Huehuehue. tongue.gif

When driven properly it makes the Fostex sound muddier. Bass is also better with the LCD2, but only with the 16 Core Copper/Silver Cables. Lush Mids, oh so bloody lush, yet still forward and clear.

Got the Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm Solo -DB DAC and ALO RX MK3-B Amp as well.

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 12 2014, 10:13 AM)
The bass nice?
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Yeah it has decent sound with bass. But its still recommended you go to a Logitech store and try it for yourself. If you're happy with the sound signature then by all means get it.
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 11 2014, 05:54 PM)
Hmm... which gaming headset should i get? if my budget is around rm 200?

If possible  i wan my headset to come with these features:
-surround sound
-good bass
-Good at music listening
- have mic

so far, i only saw that suit my needs is armageddon zx100 .
any other recommendations?
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here my zx100 after 2 week usage. its not build for large head and its all plastic contruction. currently using G230 and its way better than zx100. only thing i missed from zx100 is the deteachable mic.
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QUOTE(c2_lover @ May 12 2014, 12:40 PM)
here my zx100 after 2 week usage. its not build for large head and its all plastic contruction. currently using G230 and its way better than zx100. only thing i missed from zx100 is the deteachable mic. 
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Wow. After only 2 weeks. Did you claim warranty or replaced it right out?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 01:13 PM)
shocking.gif  shakehead.gif

Wow. After only 2 weeks. Did you claim warranty or replaced it right out?
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bought it at jayacom in lowyat and claim warranty for it but they end up pay me back the cost price instead of full price after waited more than a month for it.
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QUOTE(c2_lover @ May 12 2014, 02:40 PM)
bought it at jayacom in lowyat and claim warranty for it but they end up pay me back the cost price instead of full price after waited more than a month for it.
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Yeah it's probably gonna cost them that much to get a brand new unit anyways. Wow. But no issues with your Logitech so far right?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 03:30 PM)
Yeah it's probably gonna cost them that much to get a brand new unit anyways. Wow. But no issues with your Logitech so far right?
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so far so good and its way more comfortable than zx100. that earpad cushion fit my ear so well that it doesnt pinch my ear like some headset and that zx100 will. its also lightweight and mic is okish for the price as i need to increase the gain through the software a little. if there is one thing to say, its the cushion earpad may need to wash as its start to smell with my sweats after a long time usage. LOL

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QUOTE(c2_lover @ May 12 2014, 04:16 PM)
so far so good and its way more comfortable than zx100. that earpad cushion fit my ear so well that it doesnt pinch my ear like some headset and that zx100 will. its also lightweight and mic is okish for the price as i need to increase the gain through the software a little. if there is one thing to say, its the cushion earpad may need to wash as its start to smell with my sweats after a long time usage. LOL
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Hahahaha. Lol. Well bandit94822, I guess you can safely get this headset without worries. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(c2_lover @ May 12 2014, 04:16 PM)
so far so good and its way more comfortable than zx100. that earpad cushion fit my ear so well that it doesnt pinch my ear like some headset and that zx100 will. its also lightweight and mic is okish for the price as i need to increase the gain through the software a little. if there is one thing to say, its the cushion earpad may need to wash as its start to smell with my sweats after a long time usage. LOL
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How is the sound signature for the G230? smile.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 12 2014, 04:36 PM)
How is the sound signature for the G230? smile.gif
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im no audiophile so i cant really comment on it. as long its plays sound and mic working and comfortable its good enough for me sweat.gif . i have no idea what is low, mids and high means.
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The G230 isn't actually a bad headset, for the price (RM200) I can actually recommend it to a lot of people without going... "ugh.. overpriced gaming headsets bs".

The G230 is a fairly laid back headset, a bump on the bass that although bleeds quite a bit into the mids it isn't exactly bloated. The mids are as a result recessed and the trebles are rolled off pretty early in the freq. range. So no worries about ear spiking trebles when you shoot something or when there's a lot of "S" in a dialogue. It's actually quite sibilant free.

It's not going to give you a godly amount of detail whoring, but I find the G230 to be quite sufficient in its respect considering it is a closed design. The cheaper Superlux HD681 Evo still sounds better though IMO, with the perception of less bass but more quality impact.

Bottom line, if you want headset for no more than RM200 then get the Logitech G230. If you don't mind an extra cable, get a lapel mic and get a Superlux HD681 Evo for an overall better audio quality experience.

Has the weight bothered you yet? I couldn't wear them for more than 1 hour before feeling sore on the neck.
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Uuuuuh guys, I posted a pretty detailed explanation on the third post of this thread. But I'll post it here anyways.
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TL;DR Version.

Low - Bass. Drums. Kickdrums. EDM. Anything that packs a solid low end punch. Best versions of bass is those where it's solid and tight. A controlled thump, rather than a loose boom you hear in that of Beats headsets.
Mids - Vocals. Musical instruments of the mellow kind like guitars or pianos. Supposed to be lush and mellow. Like a buttery feeling when you listen to it.
Highs - Treble. Also musical instruments but generally more sharper ones like snares, cymbals. Lousy treble control usually ends with highly annoying Sharp hisses.

Some people prefer bass. Some likes treble, especially gamers.

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QUOTE(c2_lover @ May 12 2014, 05:21 PM)
im no audiophile so i cant really comment on it. as long its plays sound and mic working and comfortable its good enough for me sweat.gif . i have no idea what is low, mids and high means.
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Hehe, no problem. Me too. tongue.gif How is the bass?

QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 12 2014, 06:24 PM)
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Thanks so much for the very detailed brief write-up on the G230. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 06:25 PM)
Uuuuuh guys, I posted a pretty detailed explanation on the third post of this thread. But I'll post it here anyways.
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TL;DR Version.

Low - Bass. Drums. Kickdrums. EDM. Anything that packs a solid low end punch. Best versions of bass is those where it's solid and tight. A controlled thump, rather than a loose boom you hear in that of Beats headsets.
Mids - Vocals. Musical instruments of the mellow kind like guitars or pianos. Supposed to be lush and mellow. Like a buttery feeling when you listen to it.
Highs - Treble. Also musical instruments but generally more sharper ones like snares, cymbals. Lousy treble control usually ends with highly annoying Sharp hisses.

Some people prefer bass. Some likes treble, especially gamers.
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oh my bad doh.gif that really good info.

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i see i see ....so Logitech G230 i will consider it =D maybe friday go lowyat see see brows.gif

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QUOTE(c2_lover @ May 12 2014, 07:56 PM)
oh my bad doh.gif  that really good info.
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Chill bro no worries. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 12 2014, 09:53 PM)
i see i see ....so Logitech G230 i will consider it =D maybe friday go lowyat see see  brows.gif

thx to all the sifu  thumbup.gif
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Yeah make sure you try it out, you're happy with the sound, then only buy. Good luck!
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 10:11 PM)
Chill bro no worries.  thumbup.gif
Yeah make sure you try it out, you're happy with the sound, then only buy. Good luck!
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oh ya... forgot 1 thing... so far all the headset i used... the ear cup will wear out and cause discomfort... this logictech one the ear cups go spare? hmm.gif if dun have, where can i find spare ear cups for this headset icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 12 2014, 10:13 PM)
oh ya... forgot 1 thing... so far all the headset i used... the ear cup will wear out and cause discomfort... this logictech one the ear cups go spare?  hmm.gif if dun have, where can i find spare ear cups for this headset  icon_question.gif
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Yes, you can get replacement earpads on Amazon or other online retailers. Apparently G430 and G930 earpads work for the G230. Logitech also sells em on their site. http://mobile.logitech.com/en-roeu/promotions/4875

Locally I'm not sure though. You have to ask main Logitech stores like the one in Midvalley.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 12 2014, 06:24 PM)
The G230 isn't actually a bad headset, for the price (RM200) I can actually recommend it to a lot of people without going... "ugh.. overpriced gaming headsets bs".

The G230 is a fairly laid back headset, a bump on the bass that although bleeds quite a bit into the mids it isn't exactly bloated. The mids are as a result recessed and the trebles are rolled off pretty early in the freq. range. So no worries about ear spiking trebles when you shoot something or when there's a lot of "S" in a dialogue. It's actually quite sibilant free.

It's not going to give you a godly amount of detail whoring, but I find the G230 to be quite sufficient in its respect considering it is a closed design. The cheaper Superlux HD681 Evo still sounds better though IMO, with the perception of less bass but more quality impact.

Bottom line, if you want headset for no more than RM200 then get the Logitech G230. If you don't mind an extra cable, get a lapel mic and get a Superlux HD681 Evo for an overall better audio quality experience.
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Yup!Logitech G230 is fine IMO,i've been using it since last September..happy with it,bought it for RM185.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 12 2014, 10:13 PM)
oh ya... forgot 1 thing... so far all the headset i used... the ear cup will wear out and cause discomfort... this logictech one the ear cups go spare?   hmm.gif if dun have, where can i find spare ear cups for this headset  icon_question.gif
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The earcups that Logitech use for the G230 is cloth material AFAIK.. icon_idea.gif brows.gif You can even wash it!! icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 12 2014, 10:42 PM)
Yup!Logitech G230 is fine IMO,i've been using it since last September..happy with it,bought it for RM185.. brows.gif
Sentinel92 Apa ni,Logeetek takde lagi dekat list users yg pakai!! mad.gif  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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The earcups that Logitech use for the G230 is cloth material AFAIK.. icon_idea.gif  brows.gif You can even wash it!! icon_idea.gif
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Aku dah cakap let me know what model and brand you ada clearly lah. Then I letak pada list. Ish.

Oh, can wash one ah? Didn't know. Nice perk to have.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 12 2014, 10:42 PM)
Yup!Logitech G230 is fine IMO,i've been using it since last September..happy with it,bought it for RM185.. brows.gif
Sentinel92 Apa ni,Logeetek takde lagi dekat list users yg pakai!! mad.gif  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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The earcups that Logitech use for the G230 is cloth material AFAIK.. icon_idea.gif  brows.gif You can even wash it!! icon_idea.gif
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woah... boss where u buy? normal market is 199 how u manage to get 185 rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 12 2014, 11:21 PM)
woah... boss where u buy? normal market is 199 how u manage to get 185  rclxm9.gif
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Bro, go shop to shop and ask for best price, cash term. You try at one place first, then walk around and see where you can get cheaper. No harm PMing LYN sellers as well. Should be able to get at least RM15-20 discount.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 11:23 PM)
Bro, go shop to shop and ask for best price, cash term. You try at one place first, then walk around and see where you can get cheaper. No harm PMing LYN sellers as well. Should be able to get at least RM15-20 discount.
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hmmm hmm.gif i think i will visit lowyat this week, any shop to recommend?
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 12 2014, 11:51 PM)
hmmm  hmm.gif i think i will visit lowyat this week, any shop to recommend?
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Recommended shop ah? It's still best if you look around all that carry the G230. You might come across a good deal.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 13 2014, 01:04 AM)
Recommended shop ah? It's still best if you look around all that carry the G230. You might come across a good deal.
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Out of curiosity...mhow much u spent on ur rig lol
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 11:16 PM)
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Idk what the heck is that,looks beast though. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 11:18 PM)
Aku dah cakap let me know what model and brand you ada clearly lah. Then I letak pada list. Ish.

Oh, can wash one ah? Didn't know. Nice perk to have.
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LOL!Saya sudah buat la. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Mhmm,i've washed it once so far.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 12 2014, 11:21 PM)
woah... boss where u buy? normal market is 199 how u manage to get 185  rclxm9.gif
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I bought it during the Malaysia IT Fair back in September! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 13 2014, 07:42 AM)
Idk what the heck is that,looks beast though.  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
LOL!Saya sudah buat la. tongue.gif  biggrin.gif

Mhmm,i've washed it once so far.. whistling.gif
I bought it during the Malaysia IT Fair back in September! tongue.gif
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hmm if lidat now shd be much cheaper wad >.< but no matters biggrin.gif i pmed some seller from LYN see how they offer and maybe friday i will go lowyat to check myself
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Wahh...Audeze LCD2? I can't really tell apart the Audeze cans though..why not the X or XC?

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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 13 2014, 07:12 AM)
Out of curiosity...mhow much u spent on ur rig lol
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 13 2014, 07:42 AM)
Idk what the heck is that,looks beast though.  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
LOL!Saya sudah buat la. tongue.gif  biggrin.gif

Mhmm,i've washed it once so far.. whistling.gif
I bought it during the Malaysia IT Fair back in September! tongue.gif
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Yeah, beast it is. Powered through every Damn thing I threw at it.

Ooooooh, IT fair. No wonder. Well hope he gets a goof deal.

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 13 2014, 11:53 AM)
hmm if lidat now shd be much cheaper wad >.< but no matters  biggrin.gif i pmed some seller from LYN see how they offer and maybe friday i will go lowyat to check myself
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Hahahah yeah,slowly bro. PM and walk around. See who can sell you cheapest. Then take it.

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Wahh...Audeze LCD2? I can't really tell apart the Audeze cans though..why not the X or XC?
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Bro, I'm insane but not that insane. Those cost $2600-2800 SGD. Twice the cost. Wish I could afford those but it ain't happening.. cry.gif

But the LCD2 sound signature really suits me. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 11:18 PM)
Aku dah cakap let me know what model and brand you ada clearly lah. Then I letak pada list. Ish.

Oh, can wash one ah? Didn't know. Nice perk to have.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 11:16 PM)
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Wow. Looks good this items. Mind if ask how many this headset is costing you? Is new model from Razer?

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 13 2014, 03:55 PM)
Has the weight bothered you yet? I couldn't wear them for more than 1 hour before feeling sore on the neck.
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Surprisingly no. I got used to the clamp and weight after a few minutes. Wore it for 4 hours straight yesterday no issue. Maybe cuz I always go in head first during rugby last time. Haha.

Except I'm not wearing it in a hot room. The ear pads retains heat easily.


QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 13 2014, 04:02 PM)
Wow. Looks good this items. Mind if ask how many this headset is costing you? Is new model from Razer?
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Eh, too free edi ah you? Semua thread nak kacau. tongue.gif

Yeah, got it from Razer SG. Super cheap. $99 only.
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May me join this thread also? Me just have humble head sets listing in the signature below. And just got LCD3 just now as me is travelling now and me got it here.

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 13 2014, 04:07 PM)
Surprisingly no. I got used to the clamp and weight after a few minutes. Wore it for 4 hours straight yesterday no issue. Maybe cuz I always go in head first during rugby last time. Haha.

Except I'm not wearing it in a hot room. The ear pads retains heat easily.
Eh, too free edi ah you? Semua thread nak kacau.  tongue.gif

Yeah, got it from Razer SG. Super cheap. $99 only.
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May me join this thread also? Me just have humble head sets listing in the signature below. And just got LCD3 just now as me is travelling now and me got it here.
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Do you even use any of your godlike headsets for gaming? Haha.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 13 2014, 04:12 PM)
Do you even use any of your godlike headsets for gaming? Haha.
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Yes. I use my head gear with my Alienware laptop when play gaming.

Set up is something like the below describe:

Alienware Full SSD - Atoll DAC 100 (some call sound card, me call DAC) - Woo Audio 22 full vacuum tube amplifier - DHC 8 Core MacroMolecule Pure Copper Peptide SE Cables 9 feet - Audeze LCD3.

Guys, I was lurk around the internet and came cross this deal of gaming head gears. So I am sharing here.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-mmx300

The cups made from carbon fibre and are looks good.
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 13 2014, 04:18 PM)
Yes. I use my head gear with my Alienware laptop when play gaming.

Set up is something like the below describe:

Alienware Full SSD - Atoll DAC 100 (some call sound card, me call DAC) - Woo Audio 22 full vacuum tube amplifier - DHC 8 Core MacroMolecule Pure Copper Peptide SE Cables 9 feet - Audeze LCD3.
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My PC? About 8K? Or less. Doesn't seem like it but I got a lot of my stuff from other forumers hahaha.
Yeah, beast it is. Powered through every Damn thing I threw at it.

Ooooooh, IT fair. No wonder. Well hope he gets a goof deal.
Hahahah yeah,slowly bro. PM and walk around. See who can sell you cheapest. Then take it.
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wa bro... so much custom water cooling... and u say 8k?! drool.gif
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Interesting choice, that Denon. Rarely ever come across one. How does it perform compared To your steelseries?

QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 13 2014, 09:18 PM)
wa bro... so much custom water cooling... and u say 8k?!  drool.gif
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My base PC without WC is around 6.5K only. Got a couple of good deals. Like the 290X for RM1500, AX860i for RM600, and 4770K for RM850. All sold by friends who used for a few weeks only. So save there I guess. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 13 2014, 08:51 PM)
Interesting choice, that Denon. Rarely ever come across one. How does it perform compared To your steelseries?
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Thanks biggrin.gif

It performs much much better than the Flux lah, the Flux and the Denons have very good soundstages, but the Denon's one is much much wider. cool.gif

The Denons are marketed as "BONE-JARRING BASS" but in fact it's very balanced out to me, the highs and mids all also very the nais and crisp. rclxms.gif
The Flux on the other hand, feels just slightly muddier than the Denon, but still very acceptable, I wouldn't pay RM480 for it though sweat.gif lol --Steelseries always had better audio over other gaming brands apparently.


Other stuff:
The Denon comes with a built in amplifier, microphone and the big knobs act as controls for iOS devices and the cable is removable.
The Flux has two cables, one for PC and one for mobile, both with in-line microphones; you can also swap out the cables, the plates, the ear cushions; can fold for portability --and my favorite feature: Can share audio with a friend if they plug in their earphone to the free jack of the Flux when you're listening to something.


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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 14 2014, 02:45 AM)
Guys, I was lurk around the internet and came cross this deal of gaming head gears. So I am sharing here.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-mmx300

The cups made from carbon fibre and are looks good.
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Might as well just get a DT770 Pro for half the price and spend the other half on an amp + lapel mic.

I never saw the reason for the MMX300 (at this current price at least) when it's pretty much just a DT770 Pro.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 03:37 PM)
Might as well just get a DT770 Pro for half the price and spend the other half on an amp + lapel mic.

I never saw the reason for the MMX300 (at this current price at least) when it's pretty much just a DT770 Pro.
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there are also a brand called QPAD that makes gaming headsets based on beyerdynamic design, but not sure how good is the sound quality.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 03:37 PM)
Might as well just get a DT770 Pro for half the price and spend the other half on an amp + lapel mic.

I never saw the reason for the MMX300 (at this current price at least) when it's pretty much just a DT770 Pro.
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But the DT770 is not coming with the mic as some gamers for have mic is important for them.
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QUOTE(ntw @ May 14 2014, 04:42 PM)
there are also a brand called QPAD that makes gaming headsets based on beyerdynamic design, but not sure how good is the sound quality.
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Ah, didn't know that. Just checked them out, so their QH-1339 (which looks like a painted MMX300) costs as much as a MMX300... sweat.gif


QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 14 2014, 05:05 PM)
But the DT770 is not coming with the mic as some gamers for have mic is important for them.
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True, which is why I said get a lapel mic which can be clipped to the DT770's cable or the t-shirt. It costs like $2.

The DT770 Pro needed an amp to bring it to its full potential, the MMX300 does as well. Paying nearly twice the price for a MMX300 + an amp is already out of reach for many, many gamers and it makes no sense IMO.
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Jaben has is having a fire sale for the Beyerdynamic Custom ONE Pro now @ RM559 or something. Add the additional Mic cable and it's still my best bang fir buck gaming headset. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 14 2014, 05:34 PM)
Jaben has is having a fire sale for the Beyerdynamic Custom ONE Pro now @ RM559 or something. Add the additional Mic cable and it's still my best bang fir buck gaming headset. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 05:18 PM)
Ah, didn't know that. Just checked them out, so their QH-1339 (which looks like a painted MMX300) costs as much as a MMX300...  sweat.gif
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yeah, based on the pricing, i figured it could be a beyer headset with mic and then rebrand it under QPAD, its sponsoring a few china wcg teams it seems
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 14 2014, 05:45 PM)
The headset in my wishlist is the best, tongue.gif

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Lol. You got 2K to burn for the headset and amp then boleh lah. Hahaha.

You dapat Custom ONE Pro dulu lah then uogarde later to MMX300. Or as Ben said get a DT770 and cheap seperate Mic.

QUOTE(ntw @ May 14 2014, 10:24 PM)
yeah, based on the pricing, i figured it could be a beyer headset with mic and then rebrand it under QPAD, its sponsoring a few china wcg teams it seems
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Probably a license by QPAD to rebrand Beyer stuff. Like how Armegeddon rebranded the cheap XSPC 750 kits. QPAD also makes other gaming gear.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 14 2014, 05:59 PM)
Lol. You got 2K to burn for the headset and amp then boleh lah. Hahaha.

You dapat Custom ONE Pro dulu lah then uogarde later to MMX300. Or as Ben said get a DT770 and cheap seperate Mic.
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But the COP > DT770 in terms of balance. The DT770 has better imaging, but that all happens with quite a claustrophobic soundstage. The bass on the DT770 can also bleed into the mids a little too much IMO.

I think it's more of a sidegrade.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 10:37 PM)
But the COP > DT770 in terms of balance. The DT770 has better imaging, but that all happens with quite a claustrophobic soundstage. The bass on the DT770 can also bleed into the mids a little too much IMO.

I think it's more of a sidegrade.
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Hmmmm, true also. But most of the gaming headsets from Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic are more often than not normal headsets with mics and a new paint job slapped on anyways. So i guess straight get stuff like the AKG702's or DT880's?

But yeah Minecrafter I think you should aim for The Custom ONE Pros. Better bang for buck. Rather than the MMX330.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 14 2014, 10:44 PM)
Hmmmm, true also. But most of the gaming headsets from Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic are more often than not normal headsets with mics and a new paint job slapped on anyways. So i guess straight get stuff like the AKG702's or DT880's?

But yeah Minecrafter I think you should aim for The Custom ONE Pros. Better bang for buck. Rather than the MMX330.
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I was so impressed of the MMX300 when i watched DocM's video.But when i heard of the price..i go full rage. laugh.gif But well,i don't think it's available here. tongue.gif But it's on my wishlist yo!

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hmm.gif Maybe when i've money.. *dream on* tongue.gif Meh,no one brings in Audio Technica and Blue microphones to Malaysia.I could've went for the Blue Snowball last year.. *microphone tongue.gif *
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No one? Dude Jaben and E1 does. Go visit their store. liquidgal also sells AT cans in GS.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 14 2014, 11:22 PM)
No one? Dude Jaben and E1 does. Go visit their store. liquidgal also sells AT cans in GS.
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Well freak,already bought the headset,happy with the mic.At least i love the headset. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 05:18 PM)
Ah, didn't know that. Just checked them out, so their QH-1339 (which looks like a painted MMX300) costs as much as a MMX300...  sweat.gif
True, which is why I said get a lapel mic which can be clipped to the DT770's cable or the t-shirt. It costs like $2.

The DT770 Pro needed an amp to bring it to its full potential, the MMX300 does as well. Paying nearly twice the price for a MMX300 + an amp is already out of reach for many, many gamers and it makes no sense IMO.
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Sorry, me just newbie in this things of audio and microphone. Previous time I try the DT770 I feel for my ears the bass is kind of like boom boom. I more like the DT880 where sound style is more linear. If you guy want something that good addition for gaming to use with any headgear, you guy can looking for Realiser A8 by Smyth Research. These are good, I try one time in UK when I was there on working and the effect is like night and daytime differences.
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ May 14 2014, 11:26 PM)
Sorry, me just newbie in this things of audio and microphone. Previous time I try the DT770 I feel for my ears the bass is kind of like boom boom. I more like the DT880 where sound style is more linear. If you guy want something that good addition for gaming to use with any headgear, you guy can looking for Realiser A8 by Smyth Research. These are good, I try one time in UK when I was there on working and the effect is like night and daytime differences.
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Dood. Stop trolling. You are a newbie? sweat.gif

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That Smyth A8, oh how much I love it. Too bad it is out of reach for the majority of people and too bad that it is overkill for games.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 14 2014, 11:43 PM)
That Smyth A8, oh how much I love it. Too bad it is out of reach for the majority of people and too bad that it is overkill for games.
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Okay, back on topic. Heh. Sorry.
But if you guys are looking for cans that would suit most modern mainstream music(3M), you guys could check out the VMODA series and they have a mic add on too which is pretty convenient and is a well thought of design. It will look something like this:

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The bass is tight and not so boomy like other mainstream cans and they can be easily purchased from local resellers and comes with a lifetime warranty and those cans are built like tanks.
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I propose we have a slightly better strong definition of a gaming headset in front and also a list of different best bang for buck at the budget ranges at the front page...

Mana itu Sentinel92 tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Helldiver @ May 15 2014, 12:26 PM)
I propose we have a slightly better strong definition of a gaming headset in front and also a list of different best bang for buck at the budget ranges at the front page...

Mana itu Sentinel92  tongue.gif
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What definition so you recommend hahahaa. I'm open to anything.

Well, so far for the sub 700 category I can only.think of the Custom ONE Pro. Shall we start a discussion on other price points?

Okay then. Best Gaming Headset under RM250. Go.
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^Yup.

Precisely what I'm using with my Fidelio X1.

The Vmoda M100 is a rather decent headphone too. But RM1k might be a tough ask for its price.

QUOTE(Helldiver @ May 15 2014, 12:26 PM)
I propose we have a slightly better strong definition of a gaming headset in front and also a list of different best bang for buck at the budget ranges at the front page...

Mana itu Sentinel92  tongue.gif
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I'm in the process of writing a brief baseline guide up for it. Just need to find my notes on the previous headphones that I've to tested.
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My amp finally arrived..just finished hooking everything up and initial impression is everything sounds wider, with more body and tighter bass.
Going to fire up BF4 and test it now..too bad my pc not complete yet so I can't try it with the SB ZXR.

One nice bonus is the amp came with a balanced output when the one on Audio GD website show 2 headphone output..my DAC also has balanced...now I'm tempted to go looking for a balanced cable for the headphone sweat.gif

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My amp finally arrived..just finished hooking everything up and initial impression is everything sounds wider, with more body and tighter bass.
Going to fire up BF4 and test it now..too bad my pc not complete yet so I can't try it with the SB ZXR.

One nice bonus is the amp came with a balanced output when the one on Audio GD website show 2 headphone output..my DAC also has balanced...now I'm tempted to go looking for a balanced cable for the headphone  sweat.gif
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet. I wanna crash your house and try it lol.

Btw don't use the ZXR signal and amplify it. Straight digital out from your PC would be better.

Balanced cables? Go ask E1. The ALO ones cost about 450-500 or so. Gonna be my next upgrade. But now I stay with single ended first. Haha.

Grrrrrrrrrrr can't wait for my PC to be completed. Damn aquatuning is still delaying my parts.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 15 2014, 03:43 PM)
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet. I wanna crash your house and try it lol.

Btw don't use the ZXR signal and amplify it. Straight digital out from your PC would be better.

Balanced cables? Go ask E1. The ALO ones cost about 450-500 or so. Gonna be my next upgrade. But now I stay with single ended first. Haha.
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Haha ya planning to use optical signal into the mini-i to avoid the ZXR problematic output..I'm now hearing details never before heard from songs I've heard hundreds of time before..damn..didn't think I was missing so much all this time..

BF4 sounds good too..brings new meaning to the word 'immersive'.

Feels like my head was immersed in a bucket full of audio goodness cool.gif

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Grrrrrrrrrrr can't wait for my PC to be completed. Damn aquatuning is still delaying my parts.
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I know that feeling too well..luckily my bitspower parts arrived last week and xspc parts arrived today..just waiting for psu now..
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Haha ya planning to use optical signal into the mini-i to avoid the ZXR problematic output..I'm now hearing  details never before heard from songs I've heard hundreds of time before..damn..didn't think I was missing so much all this time..

BF4 sounds good too..brings new meaning to the word 'immersive'.

Feels like my head was immersed in a bucket full of audio goodness  cool.gif
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Although BF4 (and BF3 previously) isn't a good game to judge positional accuracy due to the use pre-baked audio effects, but it is one of the more immersive sounding FPS games.

You want to try directionality on a modern game, then go for Borderlands 2. Enable OpenAL within its configs, enable SBX. You'll have eargasm, guaranteed. Otherwise I belanja you dinner.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 15 2014, 01:00 PM)
What definition so you recommend hahahaa. I'm open to anything.

Well, so far for the sub 700 category I can only.think of the Custom ONE Pro. Shall we start a discussion on other price points?

Okay then. Best Gaming Headset under RM250. Go.
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Seeing as communication is vital is most games (multiplayer anyways, and almost everyone's playing a multiplayer game nowadays), maybe a gaming headset should have a microphone attached to the headphone or to the headphone's cables?

Still thinking what else would define a gaming headset... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 15 2014, 09:08 PM)
I know that feeling too well..luckily my bitspower parts arrived last week and xspc parts arrived today..just waiting for psu now..
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Until now still saying no stock. This is getting ridiculous. Sigh.

QUOTE(Helldiver @ May 15 2014, 10:35 PM)
Seeing as communication is vital is most games (multiplayer anyways, and almost everyone's playing a multiplayer game nowadays), maybe a gaming headset should have a microphone attached to the headphone or to the headphone's cables?

Still thinking what else would define a gaming headset...  hmm.gif
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Depends. I got a lot of friends also who can't be bothered with multiplayer, and usually plays single player campaigns. Pirate or non pirate included. But still a Mic should be considered as important.

I think I'll expand on what I said. A gaming headset should be versatile. It has to have a neutral frequency response for it to excel at all situations and games. Treble should be clear and bright, but not to the point where it gets annoyingly sharp. Important for gunfire. Mids is forward and lush for voices. Bass, strong yet controlled for explosions. Most important, soundstage. It has to be wide to give a sense of depth, and also be able to allow you to sense the direction of certain sounds, like foot steps.

This is what the ultimate gaming headset should be. We can base candidates on how close it can reach this goal. But of course per budget limit. We garde according to price class, but to this benchmark.

Even Kingston is in the act with QPAD and Beyerdynamic now.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/audio/k...eadset_review/1

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Grrrrrrrrrrr can't wait for my PC to be completed. Damn aquatuning is still delaying my parts.
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Oi,this kid will be the happiest kid on the day he will get his PC. blush.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 15 2014, 10:45 PM)
Until now still saying no stock. This is getting ridiculous. Sigh.
Depends. I got a lot of friends also who can't be bothered with multiplayer, and usually plays single player campaigns. Pirate or non pirate included. But still a Mic should be considered as important.

I think I'll expand on what I said. A gaming headset should be versatile. It has to have a neutral frequency response for it to excel at all situations and games. Treble should be clear and bright, but not to the point where it gets annoyingly sharp. Important for gunfire. Mids is forward and lush for voices. Bass, strong yet controlled for explosions. Most important, soundstage. It has to be wide to give a sense of depth, and also be able to allow you to sense the direction of certain sounds, like foot steps.

This is what the ultimate gaming headset should be. We can base candidates on how close it can reach this goal. But of course per budget limit. We garde according to price class, but to this benchmark.
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If in US,buy a good headset without a mic,and get Blue Snowball.Good combo.. brows.gif

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 16 2014, 12:02 AM)
Even Kingston is in the act with QPAD and Beyerdynamic now.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/audio/k...eadset_review/1

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 16 2014, 12:02 AM)
Even Kingston is in the act with QPAD and Beyerdynamic now.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/audio/k...eadset_review/1

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was just about to post this here... the price set around £90
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QUOTE(ntw @ May 16 2014, 10:19 AM)
was just about to post this here... the price set around  £90
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Eh quite cheap leh. You no need SRH440 anymore. Don't tell delon about this lol.

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 16 2014, 12:48 PM)
Eh,Kingston also makes Headaets nowadays huh? blink.gif
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 16 2014, 01:57 PM)
Bought the logictech g230 ald... very nice. (⊙o⊙)the bass is nice and sound is clear ≧﹏≦
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 16 2014, 12:54 PM)
They don't make bro, they license. That's why I said they're in the act with QPAD and Beyerdynamic. Lol
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the logo is red and black eh, not really rike it... maybe somebody else brows.gif
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ May 16 2014, 01:57 PM)
Bought the logictech g230 ald... very nice. (⊙o⊙)the bass is nice and sound is clear ≧﹏≦
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QUOTE(ntw @ May 16 2014, 03:55 PM)
the logo is red and black eh, not really rike it... maybe somebody else brows.gif
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Hahahaha lol. We will see. brows.gif

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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/firestone-audio-headphone-stand

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Hahahaha congrats bro. Glad you liked your buy. Soon must buy G930 edi.  tongue.gif  brows.gif
Hahahaha lol. We will see.  brows.gif
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nt sure leh... the headset is light but... quite tight  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 03:10 AM)
Hmmm... the problem with the Firestone headphone stand is that it can put indents into a headband in the long run. It's fine for auto-adjusting headbands but standard headbands... not nice lol.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 17 2014, 03:58 AM)
Hmmm... the problem with the Firestone headphone stand is that it can put indents into a headband in the long run. It's fine for auto-adjusting headbands but standard headbands... not nice lol.
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Hahahaha. Guess ntw is the only guy who thought it was very nice.

But I really do need a nice headphone stand though. But definitely not the RM700 Omegas.
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garage sales got the omega wooden stand clones
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 03:10 AM)
Oh my the poison..haha..my current stand pales in comparison to that..
Anyway my pc build facing a bit of a problem..the quad 290s+xspc razors means none of the pcie slots accessible..not even with risers..my sound blaster zxr crying... cry.gif
Im using msi big bang 2 btw..

Might have to let it go and find another solution for my gaming surround sound needs..
Sifus know of any good usb solutions? Or any solutions at all
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 02:44 PM)
Oh my the poison..haha..my current stand pales in comparison to that..
Anyway my pc build facing a bit of a problem..the quad 290s+xspc razors means none of the pcie slots accessible..not even with risers..my sound blaster zxr crying... cry.gif
Im using msi big bang 2 btw..

Might have to let it go and find another solution for my gaming surround sound needs..
Sifus know of any good usb solutions? Or any solutions at all
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Dude why do you even still need the soundcard. Straight USB out to DAC. End of story. You already have a full blown setup right there.

QUOTE(Lurker @ May 17 2014, 12:02 PM)
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Hmm, alright. Will look for one. Thanks mate.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 03:03 PM)
Dude why do you even still need the soundcard. Straight USB out to DAC. End of story. You already have a full blown setup right there.
Hmm, alright. Will look for one. Thanks mate.
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 03:23 PM)
Hmm but i thought for gaming its better to have SBX or dolby aupport? Anyway my zxr might be for sale for cheap soon  tongue.gif
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Lol. Who ask you get so much GPUs.

In all honesty bro, no point getting above 3 cards. 2 cards is optimum. 3 is at the limit. I really suggest you leave the mining to your other rigs and leave this to gaming. Mining does damage cards in the long run too. So get a triple. Keep the sound card. You should be fine.

Well, I guess that first world problem is solved. All hail SSJBen!
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 03:31 PM)
Lol. Who ask you get so much GPUs.

In all honesty bro, no point getting above 3 cards. 2 cards is optimum. 3 is at the limit. I really suggest you leave the mining to your other rigs and leave this to gaming. Mining does damage cards in the long run too. So get a triple. Keep the sound card. You should be fine.
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Haha i know right..classic example of a first world problem..ive been looking at usb sound cards but they all look kinda mediocre..sigh i should create a meme for this...
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 02:44 PM)
Oh my the poison..haha..my current stand pales in comparison to that..
Anyway my pc build facing a bit of a problem..the quad 290s+xspc razors means none of the pcie slots accessible..not even with risers..my sound blaster zxr crying... cry.gif
Im using msi big bang 2 btw..

Might have to let it go and find another solution for my gaming surround sound needs..
Sifus know of any good usb solutions? Or any solutions at all
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 03:38 PM)
Haha i know right..classic example of a first world problem..ive been looking at usb sound cards but they all look kinda mediocre..sigh i should create a meme for this...
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Get the Creative SoundBlaster Omni then, it provides SBX as well. Not being sold in Malaysia though, so you need to order from Amazon or eBay.

I thought I explained that sound quality doesn't matter on soundcards, be it external or internal. You're just gonna use it for its DSP, not the DAC. You can even sell your ZxR for some money and use that for the Omni instead.
Alternatively if you're okay with Dolby Headphone, the Asus Xonar U3 provides it too with optical out and it can be found for RM175 or less locally.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 17 2014, 03:48 PM)
Get the Creative SoundBlaster Omni then, it provides SBX as well. Not being sold in Malaysia though, so you need to order from Amazon or eBay.

I thought I explained that sound quality doesn't matter on soundcards, be it external or internal. You're just gonna use it for its DSP, not the DAC. You can even sell your ZxR for some money and use that for the Omni instead.
Alternatively if you're okay with Dolby Headphone, the Asus Xonar U3 provides it too with optical out and it can be found for RM175 or less locally.
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Wow i wasnt aware of the omni card. Good idea! Even has a mic and optical out..should be perfect for me..
Anyone interested in a RM500 SB ZXR? brows.gif

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Well, I guess that first world problem is solved. All hail SSJBen!
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 15 2014, 03:43 PM)
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet. I wanna crash your house and try it lol.

Btw don't use the ZXR signal and amplify it. Straight digital out from your PC would be better.

Balanced cables? Go ask E1. The ALO ones cost about 450-500 or so. Gonna be my next upgrade. But now I stay with single ended first. Haha.
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He quoted me 1k for the green line cables..only 6 feet too..wonder if its worth it lol..maybe i should go for custom pcwork cables?
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 06:14 PM)
He quoted me 1k for the green line cables..only 6 feet too..wonder if its worth it lol..maybe i should go for custom pcwork cables?
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Oooooh sorry i misread. Thought your meant balanced interconnects. Yeah 1k is normal. My ALO Reference 16 cable is already $679USD. sweat.gif

But it's to you. You find out what's your budget limit like first. Can't go wrong with the green line cables though. But I need to know 2 things. You want 3-pin or 4-pin balanced? And what kind of sound you're looking for?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 06:27 PM)
Oooooh sorry i misread. Thought your meant balanced interconnects. Yeah 1k is normal. My ALO Reference 16 cable is already $679USD.  sweat.gif

But it's to you. You find out what's your budget limit like first. Can't go wrong with the green line cables though. But I need to know 2 things. You want 3-pin or 4-pin balanced? And what kind of sound you're looking for?
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just a 4 pin so should save some money there no need for adapter. Something to give some warmth to the hd800 might be nice but tgh I just want to use the balanced output from my amp haha
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 06:43 PM)
just a 4 pin so should save some money there no need for adapter. Something to give some warmth to the hd800 might be nice but tgh I just want to use the balanced output from my amp haha
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Nah, nice neutral warm sound.

http://www.doublehelixcables.com/store/ind...1&products_id=1

Choose HD800 under "Headphone Type" and Neutrik 4-pin XLR under "Termination". Got up to 8 feet length.

Pretty good value for money. Of course there are high end models lah. Like this. http://www.doublehelixcables.com/store/ind...1&products_id=7
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 07:50 PM)
Nah, nice neutral warm sound.

http://www.doublehelixcables.com/store/ind...1&products_id=1

Choose HD800 under "Headphone Type" and Neutrik 4-pin XLR under "Termination". Got up to 8 feet length.

Pretty good value for money. Of course there are high end models lah. Like this. http://www.doublehelixcables.com/store/ind...1&products_id=7
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Nice..any distro in malaysia? Or just buy direct?
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 08:00 PM)
Nice..any distro in malaysia? Or just buy direct?
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Buy direct. These custom cable makers got no distros here.

Be warned though. Sometimes because of multiple orders it will take awhile to ship.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 08:01 PM)
Buy direct. These custom cable makers got no distros here.

Be warned though. Sometimes because of multiple orders it will take awhile to ship.
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Yep waiting time of 6-8 weeks.. sweat.gif

Wow the thread got moved..had to search for it.. maybe this is a better place for it smile.gif

Someone selling Phillips Fidelio X1 for RM700+ used..worth it?
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So today it happened. my few months superlux hd681 evo cushion headband snapped off from both sides. sad.gif anyone know how to fix this ? Sighhh
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 17 2014, 08:20 PM)
Yep waiting time of 6-8 weeks.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(maxera @ May 18 2014, 02:47 AM)
So today it happened. my few months superlux hd681 evo cushion headband snapped off from both sides. sad.gif anyone know how to fix this ? Sighhh
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Aiks. You're not the first one. This post was three weeks ago.

QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 28 2014, 05:05 PM)
Well it was fun while it last, HD681EVO rubber headband snaps, is there any work around for this?
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Yo Yagami5159, you fixed yours yet?

Btw maxera, whom did you get it from? Might be same seller.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 18 2014, 03:11 AM)
Aiks. You're not the first one. This post was three weeks ago.
Yo Yagami5159, you fixed yours yet?

Btw maxera, whom did you get it from? Might be same seller.
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Wah did not realise it is so easily breakable. The previous version was not hard material so can twist and turn.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 18 2014, 04:11 AM)
Aiks. You're not the first one. This post was three weeks ago.
Yo Yagami5159, you fixed yours yet?

Btw maxera, whom did you get it from? Might be same seller.
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I bought it from Lelong, Starspickers. Asked them about warranty, one year but need to check (non human factor) and send back to supplier which is in Hong Kong. but so long need to wait and quite leceh.
Edit: So if I can find good fast replacement or easy fix, that would be good.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 18 2014, 04:11 AM)
Yo Yagami5159, you fixed yours yet?
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Nope, I just get a rubber band and tie up the snapped part, thank god my head is big enough to fit it firmly even without the headband.

QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ May 18 2014, 11:32 AM)
Wah did not realise it is so easily breakable. The previous version was not hard material so can twist and turn.
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They have previous version? the non EVO? afaik these headbands are hold together by a screw on each side, prolly the long hour gripping on my big arse head must've worn them out pretty quick, well it only cost RM150...we can't have everything for a price like that.

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Apr 28 2014, 06:05 PM)
Well it was fun while it last, HD681EVO rubber headband snaps, is there any work around for this?
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So far I only adjust the cushion according to my head and just use it with duct tape to the rod. while looking for better fix. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(maxera @ May 18 2014, 12:18 PM)
So far I only adjust the cushion according to my head and just use it with duct tape to the rod. while looking for better fix.  sweat.gif
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Well there's a way to fix it for snapped headband, but required a lot of material, and please use rubber band instead, duct tape tend to leave residue in the long run.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ May 18 2014, 12:23 PM)
Well there's a way to fix it for snapped headband, but required a lot of material, and please use rubber band instead, duct tape tend to leave residue in the long run.
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How do you use rubber band to the cushion headband. Tried it but not working.
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QUOTE(maxera @ May 18 2014, 12:29 PM)
How do you use rubber band to the cushion headband. Tried it but not working.
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extend the rubber band and go through from either side till it's reach the middle... it's a rubber band, they have many ways.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ May 18 2014, 12:34 PM)
extend the rubber band and go through from either side till it's reach the middle... it's a rubber band, they have many ways.
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thanks a lot man. much cleaner looks than mine. haha biggrin.gif

oh well better save money from now on and buy a new headphone next year. ath-m50x maybe.

admin please add me in the list. hd 681 evo. smile.gif thanks
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ May 18 2014, 10:32 AM)
Wah did not realise it is so easily breakable. The previous version was not hard material so can twist and turn.
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Yeah am pretty surprised to see two breakages in a row. shocking.gif

QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 18 2014, 12:13 PM)
Wow the thread got moved..had to search for it.. maybe this is a better place for it smile.gif
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Yeah, quite retarded. The HDD/LCD club is still in hardware itself. Plus post count no longer counted. Oh well. Better tag SSJBen so he knows.

QUOTE(maxera @ May 18 2014, 12:10 PM)
admin please add me in the list. hd 681 evo. smile.gif thanks
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Okay boss. biggrin.gif

Although for your next upgrade I recommend the Beyerdymamic Custom One Pro. Comes with optional Mic cable. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 18 2014, 12:22 PM)
Yeah, quite retarded. The HDD/LCD club is still in hardware itself. Plus post count no longer counted. Oh well. Better tag SSJBen so he knows.
Okay boss. biggrin.gif

Although for your next upgrade I recommend the Beyerdymamic Custom One Pro. Comes with optional Mic cable. smile.gif
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QUOTE(maxera @ May 18 2014, 12:07 PM)
oh well better save money from now on and buy a new headphone next year. ath-m50x maybe.
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In my opinion M50 might be too light after HD681-EVO. At least that was the impression I got after I tested the M50 last time. Felt it was a little shy of bass compared to the A700. It's still there, just not enough oommph.
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Wow I was searching for the thread a good 20 minutes before I find it. Didn't know it got moved, I mean there weren't any announcements?

Hmmm odd that there's 2 reported breakage on the HD681 Evo in a row now. I know Superlux reliability in their headphones aren't exactly top notch, but to have them break less than a year... that's a concern. Guess I will need to stop recommending them whole heartedly for the time being.


QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ May 18 2014, 12:29 PM)
In my opinion M50 might be too light after HD681-EVO. At least that was the impression I got after I tested the M50 last time. Felt it was a little shy of bass compared to the A700. It's still there, just not enough oommph.
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Wait, the M50 definitely has more bass presence than the A700...

The M50x is a refinement over the M50 in every way possible, not significantly but noticeable.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 18 2014, 12:29 PM)
Wow I was searching for the thread a good 20 minutes before I find it. Didn't know it got moved, I mean there weren't any announcements?

Hmmm odd that there's 2 reported breakage on the HD681 Evo in a row now. I know Superlux reliability in their headphones aren't exactly top notch, but  to have them break less than a year... that's a concern. Guess I will need to stop recommending them whole heartedly for the time being.
Wait, the M50 definitely has more bass presence than the A700...

The M50x is a refinement over the M50 in every way possible, not significantly but noticeable.
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That's why I tagged you. HAHAHAHHA. But yeah, hopefully we dont see more cases or we can throw superlux out the window.

Correct. The M50X is the more polite version of the M50. More controlled and smoother sound. Haven't tried the A700 so can't comment on bass.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 18 2014, 01:22 PM)
Yeah, quite retarded. The HDD/LCD club is still in hardware itself. Plus post count no longer counted. Oh well. Better tag SSJBen so he knows.
Okay boss. biggrin.gif

Although for your next upgrade I recommend the Beyerdymamic Custom One Pro. Comes with optional Mic cable. smile.gif
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Nice been looking for audiophile grade headphone with mic since I got this headphone. I would check it up. thanks.

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QUOTE(maxera @ May 18 2014, 02:29 PM)
Nice been looking for audiophile grade headphone with mic since I got this headphone. I would check it up. thanks.
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If you have the cash now, I'm not sure if Jaben is still running the promo, but if you show up with your own "green" or recyclable bags, they will slash its RM799 price to only RM559. Better be fast mate.

QUOTE(Archaven @ May 18 2014, 03:08 PM)
Hey all Roccat KAVE 5.1 XTD release yet? Recommended seller? XD
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Haven't seen it so far locally. Might have to wait a little longer.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 18 2014, 05:20 PM)
If you have the cash now, I'm not sure if Jaben is still running the promo, but if you show up with your own "green" or recyclable bags, they will slash its RM799 price to only RM559. Better be fast mate.
Haven't seen it so far locally. Might have to wait a little longer.
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omg cheaper than m50x by abit but sadly I need to save money for next sem. Dammit jaben! cry.gif

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Hi, I'm currently own a Razer Carcharias and now looking for a better headset/headphone.

To me, the carcharias is very weak in bass without any tweaks or EQ. May be I am one of the person who likes bass headphone. Although using EQ I can get more bass, but the clarity of the sound get affected.

And one more thing I personally dislike about carcharias is its cloth cushion tends to stick a lot of dust after I have used it for quite some time. I have think about changing its ear cushion to leather but the cost is telling me to get another headphone.

Any suggestions for bassy headphone around budget rm200 to rm400? I have read some of the comments in the previous version of this thread but can't find any comments that compare carcharias with other headphone in terms of bass.

I like to be able to "feel" the bass, not just hearing it... But not a overwhelming bass... And the mids and highs should be clear and good too.

Previously I thought about tiamat but after reading SSJBen's comments regarding surround headphone, I have changed my mind.

I'm currently using the old Asus Xonar DS sound card.
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QUOTE(maxera @ May 18 2014, 05:52 PM)
omg cheaper than m50x by abit but sadly I need to save money for next sem. Dammit jaben!  cry.gif
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Well, they do usually have deals for the ONE Pro but never this low.

However at full price they give lots of freebies. Most importantly the custom side plate. Usually cost more than RM150.

QUOTE(alexdark @ May 19 2014, 04:30 PM)
Hi, I'm currently own a Razer Carcharias and now looking for a better headset/headphone.

To me, the carcharias is very weak in bass without any tweaks or EQ. May be I am one of the person who likes bass headphone. Although using EQ I can get more bass, but the clarity of the sound get affected.

And one more thing I personally dislike about carcharias is its cloth cushion tends to stick a lot of dust after I have used it for quite some time. I have think about changing its ear cushion to leather but the cost is telling me to get another headphone.

Any suggestions for bassy headphone around budget rm200 to rm400? I have read some of the comments in the previous version of this thread but can't find any comments that compare carcharias with other headphone in terms of bass.

I like to be able to "feel" the bass, not just hearing it... But not a overwhelming bass... And the mids and highs should be clear and good too.

Previously I thought about tiamat but after reading SSJBen's comments regarding surround headphone, I have changed my mind.

I'm currently using the old Asus Xonar DS sound card.
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Get the Logitech G230. Solid basic gaming headset. Fuss free and washable pads.

If you don't need a Mic, get a Shure SRH440. Very clear. Neutral with a nice soundstage for a headset of that price.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 19 2014, 04:39 PM)
Get the Logitech G230. Solid basic gaming headset. Fuss free and washable pads.

If you don't need a Mic, get a Shure SRH440. Very clear. Neutral with a nice soundstage for a headset of that price.
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Should I get a amp for it to sound better since my current sound card doesn't have built in headphone amp?

Are those both good for gaming and music? And I think I don't need a mic...I never really used the mic in carcharias even once since I bought it.
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Since you have a budget of up to RM400, I'd suggest getting a Creative Aurvana Live! instead. You want bass, you'll FEEL it with the CAL!, guaranteed. These are baby Denon D2000 in disguise and if you do a little bit of research into their past, you'd know that Fostex bio cellulose drivers are magical little things.

The bonus? The CAL! works bloody well with Dolby Headphone. I find that DH works exceptionally well with most closed headphones, the CAL is a very good example. You can get the CAL! from liquidgal's store for RM310 IINM.

On the soundcard front, you may want to switch your DS to a DG/DGX instead. The DS was never meant for headphone usage, which is why its lineout isn't amplified. It was meant for speakers with its own amp instead. But try it out and see if you like it, otherwise the DG/DGX is just RM120.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 19 2014, 05:06 PM)
alexdark

Since you have a budget of up to RM400, I'd suggest getting a Creative Aurvana Live! instead. You want bass, you'll FEEL it with the CAL!, guaranteed. These are baby Denon D2000 in disguise and if you do a little bit of research into their past, you'd know that Fostex bio cellulose drivers are magical little things.

The bonus? The CAL! works bloody well with Dolby Headphone. I find that DH works exceptionally well with most closed headphones, the CAL is a very good example. You can get the CAL! from liquidgal's store for RM310 IINM.

On the soundcard front, you may want to switch your DS to a DG/DGX instead. The DS was never meant for headphone usage, which is why its lineout isn't amplified. It was meant for speakers with its own amp instead. But try it out and see if you like it, otherwise the DG/DGX is just RM120.
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Ah, how do i keep forgetting about your favourite CAL!. Hahahaha.

alexdark, I concur with this suggestion. You can sell your DS to fund for a DGX instead.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 19 2014, 05:12 PM)
Ah, how do i keep forgetting about your favourite CAL!. Hahahaha.

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But it's sooooo good! If it was closer to RM250 (which it should be), I'd hands down give it the best bang for the buck headphone award without hessitation.

QUOTE(d-ky @ May 19 2014, 05:29 PM)
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senn hdr160 looks good
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I believe the RS160 is like RM700+ or something, not RM500...

Checkout the Skullcandy Plyr1 instead.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 19 2014, 06:24 PM)
But it's sooooo good! If it was closer to RM250 (which it should be), I'd hands down give it the best bang for the buck headphone award without hessitation.
I believe the RS160 is like RM700+ or something, not RM500...

Checkout the Skullcandy Plyr1 instead.
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Suddenly I feel like I have to go try one. Wonder if I paid it with my CLAS/ALO how it'll fare. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 19 2014, 05:06 PM)
alexdark

Since you have a budget of up to RM400, I'd suggest getting a Creative Aurvana Live! instead. You want bass, you'll FEEL it with the CAL!, guaranteed. These are baby Denon D2000 in disguise and if you do a little bit of research into their past, you'd know that Fostex bio cellulose drivers are magical little things.

The bonus? The CAL! works bloody well with Dolby Headphone. I find that DH works exceptionally well with most closed headphones, the CAL is a very good example. You can get the CAL! from liquidgal's store for RM310 IINM.

On the soundcard front, you may want to switch your DS to a DG/DGX instead. The DS was never meant for headphone usage, which is why its lineout isn't amplified. It was meant for speakers with its own amp instead. But try it out and see if you like it, otherwise the DG/DGX is just RM120.
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Does the CAL's mids and high good too? Doesn't want a "only" bass headphone.
Is there any demo unit available anywhere so that I can have a test ?

If I switch from DS to DG, will I lose any important feature from the DS?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 19 2014, 06:24 PM)
I believe the RS160 is like RM700+ or something, not RM500...

Checkout the Skullcandy Plyr1 instead.
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guess i have to look around to try it
wonder if i can find it in sg

damn, wallet bleeding
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 19 2014, 08:35 PM)
Suddenly I feel like I have to go try one. Wonder if I paid it with my CLAS/ALO how it'll fare.  tongue.gif
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Which? The RS160 or Plyr1?


QUOTE(alexdark @ May 19 2014, 09:11 PM)
Does the CAL's mids and high good too? Doesn't want a "only" bass headphone.
Is there any demo unit available anywhere so that I can have a test ?

If I switch from DS to DG, will I lose any important feature from the DS?
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Bass is the CAL's strongest trait. But that doesn't mean the mids become recessed till the point of sounding muffled nor is the treble non-existant either. The mids on the CAL are lush and fluid in comparison to many other closed headphones, heck it is even better than many open designs at its price range. It doesn't sound unnatural and it doesn't sound out of place, with the exception of the upper mids being a little bit recessed due to the nature of the Fostex bio drivers. Obviously, don't expect Sennheiser HD650 mids here, that's just on a whole other level.

I do wish the treble to have better energy and a little more sparkle, but a las it isn't like it is terrible. You can't have everything in a headphone after all.

But really, the CAL puts many headphones in its price range to shame.

What important features do you want to retain from the DS? AFAIK, the driver and software set for the DS and DG is mostly similar wtih the DG having Dolby Headphone support. You do lose DTS connect however, but if you don't use an AVR then that point is meaningless.

If you can go to Kepong, try asking liquidgal there for an audition. PM her for more details.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 19 2014, 09:42 PM)
Which? The RS160 or Plyr1?
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The CAL!
Me rike Fostex drivers. tongue.gif

Dude we should so do a road trip. From Jaben to E1 to liquidgal. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 19 2014, 09:42 PM)
Bass is the CAL's strongest trait. But that doesn't mean the mids become recessed till the point of sounding muffled nor is the treble non-existant either. The mids on the CAL are lush and fluid in comparison to many other closed headphones, heck it is even better than many open designs at its price range. It doesn't sound unnatural and it doesn't sound out of place, with the exception of the upper mids being a little bit recessed due to the nature of the Fostex bio drivers. Obviously, don't expect Sennheiser HD650 mids here, that's just on a whole other level.

I do wish the treble to have better energy and a little more sparkle, but a las it isn't like it is terrible. You can't have everything in a headphone after all.

But really, the CAL puts many headphones in its price range to shame.

What important features do you want to retain from the DS? AFAIK, the driver and software set for the DS and DG is mostly similar wtih the DG having Dolby Headphone support. You do lose DTS connect however, but if you don't use an AVR then that point is meaningless.

If you can go to Kepong, try asking liquidgal there for an audition. PM her for more details.
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Well, those little issues can be reduced with EQ right?
I Don't think I have used AVR before, so I think that feature is meaningless.

Kepong is a little too far for me, may be I'll try stalking around plaza lowyat and see if anyone selling this headphone there.

Just a curious question, since this headphone is from Creative, will it be better if I were to use Creative sound card to pair with it?

And in terms of durability, does it good? I always do research and check on headphone/headset's build quality and potential durability before I decide to buy it, especially the cable and the....the....structure that clap on your head(not sure what's that called).

EDIT: Do you recommend the CAL 2?

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 19 2014, 10:12 PM)
The CAL!
Me rike Fostex drivers. tongue.gif

Dude we should so do a road trip. From Jaben to E1 to liquidgal.  laugh.gif
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Audiophile road trip? shocking.gif

Now that's a first... not that I'm opposing, but perhaps why not?
Just ready your wallet, you know~ brows.gif


QUOTE(alexdark @ May 20 2014, 01:00 AM)
Well, those little issues can be reduced with EQ right?
I Don't think I have used AVR before, so I think that feature is meaningless.

Kepong is a little too far for me, may be I'll try stalking around plaza lowyat and see if anyone selling this headphone there.

Just a curious question, since this headphone is from Creative, will it be better if I were to use Creative sound card to pair with it?

And in terms of durability, does it good? I always do research and check on headphone/headset's build quality and potential durability before I decide to buy it, especially the cable and the....the....structure that clap on your head(not sure what's that called).

EDIT: Do you recommend the CAL 2?
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Yes you could EQ, but I don't see the point. The "issues" I talked about with the CAL! is just something that the CAL! doesn't do so well with (which is the upper-mids and treble), but it does not mean it does it bad. Every headphone has an area it doesn't do as good as on other areas. There is no one-all-end-all headphone, otherwise why are audio manufacturers still making headphones? biggrin.gif

I seem to remember All IT stocking the CAL! before, but that was a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if they still do, so worth a check there I guess.

Uhm no, this isn't a PC build where you'd want to put an Intel CPU into an Intel board, not an AMD board. Doesn't work like that in audio. Also, Creative didn't actually make the CAL!, they only market them. They're made by Fostex mostly. Give it a decent DAC with a little bit of amping, that's all the CAL! needs. The DG/DGX is a nice cheap pairing like I've already said.

Well honestly the CAL!'s build doesn't feel too bad to me. It's standard plastic construction with a metal headband covered in pleather, but I haven't actually seen a broken CAL! before through normal wear and tear. Obviously don't throw them around...

Creative claims the CAL2 uses the same Fostex bio cellulose drivers, but I haven't heard them so I won't say so otherwise. FWIR however with those who already has the CAL2, they said the it sounds as good as the CAL except it is quite a lot more expensive, making them a redundant buy.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 01:30 AM)
Yes you could EQ, but I don't see the point. The "issues" I talked about with the CAL! is just something that the CAL! doesn't do so well with (which is the upper-mids and treble), but it does not mean it does it bad. Every headphone has an area it doesn't do as good as on other areas. There is no one-all-end-all headphone, otherwise why are audio manufacturers still making headphones? biggrin.gif

I seem to remember All IT stocking the CAL! before, but that was a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if they still do, so worth a check there I guess.

Uhm no, this isn't a PC build where you'd want to put an Intel CPU into an Intel board, not an AMD board. Doesn't work like that in audio. Also, Creative didn't actually make the CAL!, they only market them. They're made by Fostex mostly. Give it a decent DAC with a little bit of amping, that's all the CAL! needs. The DG/DGX is a nice cheap pairing like I've already said.

Well honestly the CAL!'s build doesn't feel too bad to me. It's standard plastic construction with a metal headband covered in pleather, but I haven't actually seen a broken CAL! before through normal wear and tear. Obviously don't throw them around...

Creative claims the CAL2 uses the same Fostex bio cellulose drivers, but I haven't heard them so I won't say so otherwise. FWIR however with those who already has the CAL2, they said the it sounds as good as the CAL except it is quite a lot more expensive, making them a redundant buy.
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Well then I should go All IT to have a look for it. It will be a real nice birthday present for myself(19/5 is my birthday).

The CAL 2 does have a better look on it but around rm150 more expensive? If I found one in plaza lowyat, I would give it a test too.

By the way, thanks for your recommendation and opinions.

Sadly, I can't find any shop selling CAL in plaza lowyat.
Does anyone know which shop is still selling and might have a demo unit? I might have overlooked some shops.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 01:30 AM)
Audiophile road trip? shocking.gif

Now that's a first... not that I'm opposing, but perhaps why not?
Just ready your wallet, you know~ brows.gif
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I am already broke and reached my current end game goals. Hahahah. Maybe in 3 years time I'll get a Burson Audio Conductor and Audeze LCD3. Or LCD4. Or whatever they call it then. So me poison proof already. laugh.gif tongue.gif

I worry about you instead. Especially if we come across a TH900. brows.gif brows.gif

Let me know when you're free. brows.gif

QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 20 2014, 10:22 AM)
Someone selling Phillips Fidelio X1 for RM700+ used..worth it?
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=____=. You already have a HD800. But meh, ask SSJBen. He has one.

QUOTE(alexdark @ May 20 2014, 12:06 PM)
Sadly, I can't find any shop selling CAL in plaza lowyat.
Does anyone know which shop is still selling and might have a demo unit? I might have overlooked some shops.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ve+Aurvana+Live

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ve+Aurvana+Live
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 12:11 PM)
Thanks but unfortunately the physical shop from the first link is too far from me and the lingloong from the second link doesn't have a physical shop.

I have pmed lingloong for the price but usually he reply late. Maybe I should use another way to contact him.

Thanks again.
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QUOTE(alexdark @ May 20 2014, 01:20 PM)
Thanks but unfortunately the physical shop from the first link is too far from me and the lingloong from the second link doesn't have a physical shop.

I have pmed lingloong for the price but usually he reply late. Maybe I should use another way to contact him.

Thanks again.
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Well, can't blame you. Feiton is a real pain to get too. But, they give nice discounts. Got my processor, mobo and GPU from them.

As for linglong, he does have a physical place. Somewhere near ampang. If I am not mistaken. But it's more of a house really.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 01:27 PM)
Well, can't blame you. Feiton is a real pain to get too. But, they give nice discounts. Got my processor, mobo and GPU from them.

As for linglong, he does have a physical place. Somewhere near ampang. If I am not mistaken. But it's more of a house really.
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Just received reply from lingloong, CAL is out of stock.
Yes, he does have a physical place, but only for COD purpose and he mentioned that the place is not a showroom or a place to test demo unit.

Now waiting reply from feiton and see how much the price is. In his thread(the first link you gave), it stated "Aurvana LIVE! Creative Headphone RM 431.00". Kinda scary price~ shocking.gif
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QUOTE(alexdark @ May 20 2014, 02:22 PM)
Just received reply from lingloong, CAL is out of stock.
Yes, he does have a physical place, but only for COD purpose and he mentioned that the place is not a showroom or a place to test demo unit.

Now waiting reply from feiton and see how much the price is. In his thread(the first link you gave), it stated "Aurvana LIVE! Creative Headphone RM 431.00". Kinda scary price~ shocking.gif
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Make sure it's CAL! 1 and not 2. But feiton memang like that one. My mobo was RM999. Snagged it for RM650. tongue.gif And now everyone else is following that pricing. Lel.

Yeah Linglongs place memang only for cod. Guess you really have to make a trip to starpickers at worse case scenario.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 02:28 PM)
Make sure it's CAL! 1 and not 2. But feiton memang like that one. My mobo was RM999. Snagged it for RM650.  tongue.gif And now everyone else is following that pricing. Lel.

Yeah Linglongs place memang only for cod. Guess you really have to make a trip to starpickers at worse case scenario.
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Looks like feiton also out of stock for the CAL!.

It seems like most of the thing that I have decided to buy will be a rare thing and hard to buy...

Now I'm not sure where else can I find it cry.gif
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QUOTE(alexdark @ May 20 2014, 03:05 PM)
Looks like feiton also out of stock for the CAL!.

It seems like most of the thing that I have decided to buy will be a rare thing and hard to buy...

Now I'm not sure where else can I find it cry.gif
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Hahahahhahaha. Guess you gotta import from overseas? Sound quality should be fine I guess.
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 20 2014, 10:22 AM)
Someone selling Phillips Fidelio X1 for RM700+ used..worth it?
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The X1 is a different beast to the HD800. If the HD800 is a Rolls Royce Phantom, the X1 is something more akin to an Audi R8. Get the idea?

2 very different beasts.


QUOTE(alexdark @ May 20 2014, 03:05 PM)
Looks like feiton also out of stock for the CAL!.

It seems like most of the thing that I have decided to buy will be a rare thing and hard to buy...

Now I'm not sure where else can I find it cry.gif
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Try ask liquidgal -
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=275224
http://www.lelong.com.my/creative-aurvana-...4-12-Sale-P.htm

She has it for RM310.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 04:06 PM)
BUY~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ icon_idea.gif

The X1 is a different beast to the HD800. If the HD800 is a Rolls Royce Phantom, the X1 is something more akin to an Audi R8. Get the idea?

2 very different beasts.
Try ask liquidgal -
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=275224
http://www.lelong.com.my/creative-aurvana-...4-12-Sale-P.htm

She has it for RM310.
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Da heck. R8? That good ah?

And he already said he lazy go all the way to liquidgirls place to audition. Hahahaha.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 04:17 PM)
Da heck. R8? That good ah?

And he already said he lazy go all the way to liquidgirls place to audition. Hahahaha.
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Just postage straight loh... sometimes, taking the dive is needed.

Well for the price, perhaps (maybe the R8 was overestimating). I mean part of the reason why the X1 is so highly regarded is because of how well it does across everything yet being such a fun headphone to listen to is largely due to its price.
RM700+ for an X1 is a great deal, although the slightly more expensive AKG K612 is even better in the sense that it is more refined.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 04:26 PM)
Just postage straight loh... sometimes, taking the dive is needed.

Well for the price, perhaps (maybe the R8 was overestimating). I mean part of the reason why the X1 is so highly regarded is because of how well it does across everything yet being such a fun headphone to listen to is largely due to its price.
RM700+ for an X1 is a great deal, although the slightly more expensive AKG K612 is even better in the sense that it is more refined.
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True. Leap of faith. Like I did with the Cypher Labs. Hahaha. Never regretted it.

Hmmmm, I really reeeeeally have to try the X1 one of these days. Never mind, we road trip your place also. Bwahahaha.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 04:06 PM)
Sent a pm but havent get a reply yet.
So far away...

liquidgal has the CAL! 1 and CAL! 2 but no demo unit available to test.

She suggest noontec zoro HD as she has a demo unit for this and the price is almost the same as CAL! 1.

Is the noontec zoro HD good?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 04:26 PM)
Just postage straight loh... sometimes, taking the dive is needed.

Well for the price, perhaps (maybe the R8 was overestimating). I mean part of the reason why the X1 is so highly regarded is because of how well it does across everything yet being such a fun headphone to listen to is largely due to its price.
RM700+ for an X1 is a great deal, although the slightly more expensive AKG K612 is even better in the sense that it is more refined.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 05:32 PM)
True. Leap of faith. Like I did with the Cypher Labs. Hahaha. Never regretted it.

Hmmmm, I really reeeeeally have to try the X1 one of these days. Never mind, we road trip your place also. Bwahahaha.
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Haha yeap.. The X1 is like on the other side of the coin to the HD800..one is the girl you party with and the other is the girl you marry tongue.gif
They might not be on the same level though..another comparison I can think of is the LCD-X vs HD800 I guess..if you have both your collection quite complete..
And the price not bad also leh...damn poisooooon.... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 20 2014, 06:22 PM)
Haha yeap.. The X1 is like on the other side of the coin to the HD800..one is the girl you party with and the other is the girl you marry  tongue.gif
They might not be on the same level though..another comparison I can think of is the LCD-X vs HD800 I guess..if you have both your collection quite complete..
And the price not bad also leh...damn poisooooon.... sweat.gif
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Marry the HD800, causes she's more.....revealing...about the details. Right? brows.gif

But seriously can't compare also lah. Totally different sound signatures. Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser can go head to head, but sennheiser always wins in bass department while Beyer is more forward, less laid back and less warm. Audeze and Fostex then yes, AKG against Shure. But otherwise it's all down to sound preferences. You pick a can you like, doesn't mean the other is bad, its just that you prefer your current sound signature.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 06:46 PM)
Marry the HD800, causes she's more.....revealing...about the details. Right?  brows.gif

But seriously can't compare also lah. Totally different sound signatures. Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser can go head to head, but sennheiser always wins in bass department while Beyer is more forward, less laid back and less warm. Audeze and Fostex then yes, AKG against Shure. But otherwise it's all down to sound preferences. You pick a can you like, doesn't mean the other is bad, its just that you prefer your current sound signature.
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Haha damn right..not to mention the biggest....soundstage brows.gif

The SB Omni is hard to get le..now I'm looking at the Xonar U7..but it has SPDIF coaxial instead of optical.
No difference between them right? Only the connection?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 06:46 PM)
Marry the HD800, causes she's more.....revealing...about the details. Right?  brows.gif

But seriously can't compare also lah. Totally different sound signatures. Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser can go head to head, but sennheiser always wins in bass department while Beyer is more forward, less laid back and less warm. Audeze and Fostex then yes, AKG against Shure. But otherwise it's all down to sound preferences. You pick a can you like, doesn't mean the other is bad, its just that you prefer your current sound signature.
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Like it's often said, the best head/earphone is the one you like the most... be it RM5 or RM500 or RM5000. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 20 2014, 07:06 PM)
Haha damn right..not to mention the biggest....soundstage  brows.gif
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Hell yeah, but never forget that sexy lushious Mids. Oh la la. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

If your wife sees this, GG. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Helldiver @ May 20 2014, 07:41 PM)
Like it's often said, the best head/earphone is the one you like the most... be it RM5 or RM500 or RM5000.  rclxms.gif
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Yup. Amen to that. You pick a sound signature you like and stick with it.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 20 2014, 06:46 PM)
Marry the HD800, causes she's more.....revealing...about the details. Right?  brows.gif

But seriously can't compare also lah. Totally different sound signatures. Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser can go head to head, but sennheiser always wins in bass department while Beyer is more forward, less laid back and less warm. Audeze and Fostex then yes, AKG against Shure. But otherwise it's all down to sound preferences. You pick a can you like, doesn't mean the other is bad, its just that you prefer your current sound signature.
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I tend to find Beyers to actually be warm sounding personally. I mean, part of the reason why it is actually more revealing than other headphones it competes against is due to that signature V-shaped signature they always have.

If the Fidelio X1 needs to go up agaisnt something to its class, that's the DT990 Pro. The best way to describe the X1 is you take the DT990 with its beautiful bass, tame the brightness on the treble and give a boost to the mids. This is why the X1 is such a great headphone to own when it came out about a year and a half ago, when the craze was all over the DT990s.


QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 20 2014, 08:58 PM)
The SB Omni is hard to get le..now I'm looking at the Xonar U7..but it has SPDIF coaxial instead of optical.
No difference between them right? Only the connection?
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Do NOT get the U7. Asus and Dolby claims to have Dolby Headphone in use in their Dolby Home Theatre software but no matter how I tried to configure the damn thing, it never comes close to DH.
It sounds more like Dolby ProLogic II instead, which instead of downmixing a multi-channel source the DSP actually upmix a stereo source into a 7.1 field. I won't say it is bad for every single game, but for the most part it sucks.

There is a huge difference between the Omni's SBX Surround and the Xonar U7's "headphone surround" which doesn't have a name. They do not sound the same, at all. Not even remotely close.

If you want DH, get the Xonar U3 which is 3 times cheaper than the U7 and actually freaking works properly.

Perhaps you can try getting an Omni through eBay?

QUOTE(alexdark @ May 21 2014, 12:48 PM)
liquidgal has the CAL! 1 and CAL! 2 but no demo unit available to test.

She suggest noontec zoro HD as she has a demo unit for this and the price is almost the same as CAL! 1.

Is the noontec zoro HD good?
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Uhm... they are 2 different headphones and they have 2 different signatures. the Noontec is a lot more bassy, less controlled on the bass, and an overall darker headphone. That's not the signature you want, isn't it?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 18 2014, 04:20 PM)
Haven't seen it so far locally. Might have to wait a little longer.
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Asked around seems it's here already. Hunting for one now biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 10:01 PM)
I tend to find Beyers to actually be warm sounding personally. I mean, part of the reason why it is actually more revealing than other headphones it competes against is due to that signature V-shaped signature they always have.

If the Fidelio X1 needs to go up agaisnt something to its class, that's the DT990 Pro. The best way to describe the X1 is you take the DT990 with its beautiful bass, tame the brightness on the treble and give a boost to the mids. This is why the X1 is such a great headphone to own when it came out about a year and a half ago, when the craze was all over the DT990s.
Do NOT get the U7. Asus and Dolby claims to have Dolby Headphone in use in their Dolby Home Theatre software but no matter how I tried to configure the damn thing, it never comes close to DH.
It sounds more like Dolby ProLogic II instead, which instead of downmixing a multi-channel source the DSP actually upmix a stereo source into a 7.1 field. I won't say it is bad for every single game, but for the most part it sucks.

There is a huge difference between the Omni's SBX Surround and the Xonar U7's "headphone surround" which doesn't have a name. They do not sound the same, at all. Not even remotely close.

If you want DH, get the Xonar U3 which is 3 times cheaper than the U7 and actually freaking works properly.

Perhaps you can try getting an Omni through eBay?
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Funnily I already have U3..been using it with my laptop..I'll have to go digging around for the optical adapter though..I threw it into my excess pc parts bundle when I bought it last year biggrin.gif
Oh well I guess I'll try ebay as the U3 is needed for when I travel..
*Edit: OK just ordered one off ebay. Costs RM370 inc. shipping and import duty..interesting that they were able to calculate the tax right at checkout..should be here in 2-3 weeks. Now to sell my SB ZXR lol..

Hmm how does the DACmini stack up against my matrix mini-i? So tempting..the omega also...*drool*

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 20 2014, 10:01 PM)
I tend to find Beyers to actually be warm sounding personally. I mean, part of the reason why it is actually more revealing than other headphones it competes against is due to that signature V-shaped signature they always have.

If the Fidelio X1 needs to go up agaisnt something to its class, that's the DT990 Pro. The best way to describe the X1 is you take the DT990 with its beautiful bass, tame the brightness on the treble and give a boost to the mids. This is why the X1 is such a great headphone to own when it came out about a year and a half ago, when the craze was all over the DT990s.
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Hmmmm, maybe because I was comparing with the Fostex and JVCs which had more apparent V shapes then the T1 I tried out. hmm.gif But again, this shows to prove how varied it is.

Wah DT990 is good stuff mate. Yeah I did find it a little bright and V shaped but otherwise famstastic pair of cans. Man I really wanna try your X1 now hahahahha.


QUOTE(Archaven @ May 20 2014, 10:53 PM)
Asked around seems it's here already. Hunting for one now biggrin.gif
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Good luck bro. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Wan.Him @ May 21 2014, 01:14 AM)
Hello steelseries siberia v2 user here. noob headset i know hehe
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Hahahha chill brother, all gaming headsets are welcomed. thumbup.gif

Anyone here has an old iPhone 4/4S/5/5S or IPod 5th Gen or later that you're not using anymore? Need a loaner unit to test my DAC.
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 20 2014, 11:07 PM)
Funnily I already have U3..been using it with my laptop..I'll have to go digging around for the optical adapter though..I threw it into my excess pc parts bundle when I bought it last year  biggrin.gif
Oh well I guess I'll try ebay as the U3 is needed for when I travel..
*Edit: OK just ordered one off ebay. Costs RM370 inc. shipping and import duty..interesting that they were able to calculate the tax right at checkout..should be here in 2-3 weeks. Now to sell my SB ZXR lol..
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Oh wait! You already ordered?
Amazon sells it for RM301 (lower if you use your bank rates instead of Amazon's) including shipping - http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Blaster-Sur...s=creative+omni


QUOTE(Wan.Him @ May 21 2014, 01:14 AM)
Hello steelseries siberia v2 user here. noob headset i know hehe
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Not really. I actually quite like the Siberia V2, one of the very few headsets that I'd recommend. It's overpriced in Malaysia, but in the US it is only selling for $70 (often times, even less during sales) which is actually a decent deal.


QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 21 2014, 01:31 AM)
Hmmmm, maybe because I was comparing with the Fostex and JVCs which had more apparent V shapes then the T1 I tried out.  hmm.gif But again, this shows to prove how varied it is.

Wah DT990 is good stuff mate. Yeah I did find it a little bright and V shaped but otherwise famstastic pair of cans. Man I really wanna try your X1 now hahahahha.
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Well the T1 is a whole different ballgame in comparison to the DT series. Still like Beyers though, they were one of the first few audiophile companies I jumped into after Sennheiser.

If Beyer is going to release a successor to the DT990, I'd really like them to tame the treble a bit. It's borderline harsh, in fact I know many people who found them very jarring due to how warm then proceedingly bright it gets. Kinda like the HE400, but that was somewhat fixed later on.


QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 21 2014, 01:32 AM)
Anyone here has an old iPhone 4/4S/5/5S or IPod 5th Gen or later that you're not using anymore? Need a loaner unit to test my DAC.
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Your AlgoRhythm Solo doesn't work with your phone currently, right?

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 21 2014, 02:14 AM)
Well the T1 is a whole different ballgame in comparison to the DT series. Still like Beyers though, they were one of the first few audiophile companies I jumped into after Sennheiser.

If Beyer is going to release a successor to the DT990, I'd really like them to tame the treble a bit. It's borderline harsh, in fact I know many people who found them very jarring due to how warm then proceedingly bright it gets. Kinda like the HE400, but that was somewhat fixed later on.
Your AlgoRhythm Solo doesn't work with your phone currently, right?
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Yeah, but I was comparing high end headsets anyways, so T1 vs TH900 vs JVC DX2000. Hahahah. DX2000 had the worst v shape. T1 was more airy and Mids friendly by comparison to even the HD700, which I found slightly laid back, more open but also warm. Bass goes to TH900.

But once try LCD2 all flies out the window. Hahahaha.

Yeah, unfortunately if i waited 1 more month last year in would have gotten the HTC ONE which natively supports 24 bit. Sigh. My butterfly doesn't Even with the help of USB Audio Pro.

Works fine with my sister's Windows PC and my workplace Mac though. But I need to try with the portable like the apples. cry.gif

Would love to get a used unit. New ones cost a bomb. Can't afford when I need a new screen. Sigh.

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG.

MASSDROPS HAS SO MANY DEALS.

1. BEYERDYNAMIC T1, DOWN TO $749.99 ONLY.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-t1

2. SHURE SE315, DOWN TO $139.99
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/shure-315-earphones

3. MY FAV, OMEGA STAAAAAAAANDS. $36.99 WHOOOO.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/wood-omega-sty...headphone-stand

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 21 2014, 06:36 PM)
Uhm... they are 2 different headphones and they have 2 different signatures. the Noontec is a lot more bassy, less controlled on the bass, and an overall darker headphone. That's not the signature you want, isn't it?
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hmm...strange, she told me CAL! and the zoro HD are very close...

anyway, I didn't plan to buy zoro HD.

CAL! 1 is built using Fostex driver right? Do you know if it's the same as for CAL! 2?
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QUOTE(alexdark @ May 21 2014, 08:35 PM)
hmm...strange, she told me CAL! and the zoro HD are very close...

anyway, I didn't plan to buy zoro HD.

CAL! 1 is built using Fostex driver right? Do you know if it's the same as for CAL! 2?
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Not.even.close, IMO.
I'm not saying they are bad, because they aren't. They cost like a billion times cheaper than the Dreded Beats.... lolololol.

But the Zoro and CAL are 2 different sounding headphones to me at least, eventhough they are both classed as bass-heavy headphones. Furthermore, the supra-aural design may not be your cup of tea? Keep in mind supra-aural and circumaural earcups are 2 different levels of comfort, fit and preference too.

Creative claims the CAL2 is using the same drivers as the original CAL. I have not tried them nor have I had a chance to open them up to make a comparison, so I cannot say for sure. But from what I read with those who owns the CAL2 and CAL, they say they sound very, very similar. So, take that as you will.

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 22 2014, 02:03 AM)
ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG.

MASSDROPS HAS SO MANY DEALS.

1. BEYERDYNAMIC T1, DOWN TO $749.99 ONLY.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-t1

2. SHURE SE315, DOWN TO $139.99
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/shure-315-earphones

3. MY FAV, OMEGA STAAAAAAAANDS. $36.99 WHOOOO.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/wood-omega-sty...headphone-stand

SSJBen  brows.gif
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$37 is a good price. BUY!

Oh and you forgot AKG K812 - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akgk812?mode=g...m_content=Final


*EDIT*

Whoa! CEntrance DACmini PX for $600?!!!
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/centrance-dacm...m_content=Final

shocking.gif

This damn thing sells for $1199 usually... I used to consider the PX the best DAC+amp all-in-one out at the market under the $1000 mark, but hot damn $600?! That's... omg, *checks bank account*.


*EDIT AGAIN!*

Hot damn, today is legendary. I just found out that Audio-GD has unleashed their whole catalog of 2014 updates to their products.

For the high-end, flagship lovers - NFB27 and NFB28
For the midrange (and pretty much end-game mind you) - Compass 2
For everyone else who doesn't wanna go broke - NFB11 or NFB15

These are all-in-ones. For convenience and compatibility sake, I always try to recommend amp/DAC combo units first before going on to individual units. This is because I know many people who games on PC also play on consoles.

I once again stress that, eventhough Audio-GD has some of the shittiest web design on the internet, their work in their amps and DACs are simply examplary.



*FINAL EDIT, I PROMISE!*

Now I'm stuck between the Compass 2 and CEntrance PX. Fudge cake!
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 21 2014, 08:44 PM)
Not.even.close, IMO.
I'm not saying they are bad, because they aren't. They cost like a billion times cheaper than the Dreded Beats.... lolololol.

But the Zoro and CAL are 2 different sounding headphones to me at least, eventhough they are both classed as bass-heavy headphones. Furthermore, the supra-aural design may not be your cup of tea? Keep in mind supra-aural and circumaural earcups are 2 different levels of comfort, fit and preference too.

Creative claims the CAL2 is using the same drivers as the original CAL. I have not tried them nor have I had a chance to open them up to make a comparison, so I cannot say for sure. But from what I read with those who owns the CAL2 and CAL, they say they sound very, very similar. So, take that as you will.
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Did those who owns both of them mention anything about the comfortably or build quality differences?
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QUOTE(alexdark @ May 21 2014, 09:03 PM)
Did those who owns both of them mention anything about the comfortably or build quality differences?
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You can do your research here -
http://www.head-fi.org/t/684370/creative-aurvana-live-2
http://www.head-fi.org/products/creative-a...and-in-line-mic
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 21 2014, 09:27 PM)
Thanks for the links.

Overall, all who owns both CAL! and CAL! 2 mentioned there are improvements on CAL! 2. A few said significant improvement, but most of them said a little improvement here and there.

Hmm...I think I might choose CAL! 2 since overall there's improvements...and it looks nicer to me biggrin.gif

I will give some feedback here after I get it.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 22 2014, 04:59 AM)
$37 is a good price. BUY!

Oh and you forgot AKG K812 - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akgk812?mode=g...m_content=Final
*EDIT*

Whoa! CEntrance DACmini PX for $600?!!!
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/centrance-dacm...m_content=Final

shocking.gif

This damn thing sells for $1199 usually... I used to consider the PX the best DAC+amp all-in-one out at the market under the $1000 mark, but hot damn $600?! That's... omg, *checks bank account*.
*EDIT AGAIN!*

Hot damn, today is legendary. I just found out that Audio-GD has unleashed their whole catalog of 2014 updates to their products.

For the high-end, flagship lovers - NFB27 and NFB28
For the midrange (and pretty much end-game mind you) - Compass 2
For everyone else who doesn't wanna go broke - NFB11 or NFB15

These are all-in-ones. For convenience and compatibility sake, I always try to recommend amp/DAC combo units first before going on to individual units. This is because I know many people who games on PC also play on consoles.

I once again stress that, eventhough Audio-GD has some of the shittiest web design on the internet, their work in their amps and DACs are simply examplary.
*FINAL EDIT, I PROMISE!*

Now I'm stuck between the Compass 2 and CEntrance PX. Fudge cake!
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BWAHAHAHAHAHHA. Somebody has been busy. Trolololol.

Yeah gonna get the stand. And no, didn't post the K812 cuz I still felt the price was a bit too much. Anyways I got my own headset already. But the T1 was bloody cheap enough to warrant a share.

Yeah, saw the Centrance and my mouth dropped. But I already have the Cypher Labs/ALO combo. cry.gif Never tried the Centrance before either is it really that bloody good? Damn you for making me have second thoughts Hahahaha.

Fark. The compass 2. But again, never tried, so can't really tell

Wonder how do those stack up against mine. The MK3-B is the most powerful balanced portable amp so far.

Edit: the audio GD site is shitty as Fark alright. But I want that 384kHz Compass. wub.gif wub.gif

Definitely for a future desktop upgrade.

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 22 2014, 10:00 AM)
BWAHAHAHAHAHHA. Somebody has been busy. Trolololol.

Yeah gonna get the stand. And no, didn't post the K812 cuz I still felt the price was a bit too much. Anyways I got my own headset already. But the T1 was bloody cheap enough to warrant a share.

Yeah, saw the Centrance and my mouth dropped. But I already have the Cypher Labs/ALO combo.  cry.gif Never tried the Centrance before either is it really that bloody good? Damn you for making me have second thoughts Hahahaha.

Fark. The compass 2. But again, never tried, so can't really tell

Wonder how do those stack up against mine. The MK3-B is the most powerful balanced portable amp so far.

Edit: the audio GD site is shitty as Fark alright. But I want that 384kHz Compass.  wub.gif  wub.gif

Definitely for a future desktop upgrade.
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If you have heard any ES9018 DAC, that's pretty much it. Neutral as neutral can be, bass is tight in control with good speed and nice attack. PRaT is spot on. The Compass 2, as far as amp+DAC combo goes, is pretty much end-game for most people even for those with flagship headphones (sure you can spend more... but~ you know the diminishing returns kick in). Yup, now that the Compass 2 has DSD support it just makes it even more perfect than it can already be. The innards of the Compass 2 is Da Vinchi's work alright.

Yes the CEntrance PX IS that damn bloody good. This stupid little thing (in a good way) costs $1,499 when it first came out... but it sold in droves regardless. That's the testament of how good it is. I don't know how to compare it to the Cypher+ALO of yours since they have different characteristics, but to poison you further... plenty of Audeze-2 and 3 owners has gone with the CEntrance PX and never looked back. whistling.gif

Oh btw, if you getting the Omega Stand, may I join in your order too? We can save on the shipping cost.


QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 22 2014, 10:34 AM)
Hmm how does the DACmini stack up against my matrix mini-i? So tempting..the omega also...*drool*
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I suppose cleaner and more revealing, but I can't say for sure since I've not heard the mini-i. Just reading from those who has/had both.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 22 2014, 02:43 PM)
If you have heard any ES9018 DAC, that's pretty much it. Neutral as neutral can be, bass is tight in control with good speed and nice attack. PRaT is spot on. The Compass 2, as far as amp+DAC combo goes, is pretty much end-game for most people even for those with flagship headphones (sure you can spend more... but~ you know the diminishing returns kick in). Yup, now that the Compass 2 has DSD support it just makes it even more perfect than it can already be. The innards of the Compass 2 is Da Vinchi's work alright.

Yes the CEntrance PX IS that damn bloody good. This stupid little thing (in a good way) costs $1,499 when it first came out... but it sold in droves regardless. That's the testament of how good it is. I don't know how to compare it to the Cypher+ALO of yours since they have different characteristics, but to poison you further... plenty of Audeze-2 and 3 owners has gone with the CEntrance PX and never looked back. whistling.gif

Oh btw, if you getting the Omega Stand, may I join in your order too? We can save on the shipping cost.
I suppose cleaner and more revealing, but I can't say for sure since I've not heard the mini-i. Just reading from those who has/had both.
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WHY DIDN'T I FIND OUT ABOUT THE COMPASS THREE WEEKS AGO. DAMNIT.

Y U DO THIS TO ME BEN. cry.gif cry.gif

Hahahahhahaha. But as far as portables go i guess I got as good as it gets before like you said diminishing returns gives a one nice whallop.

Maybe a LCD3 and Compass 2 next time would be my home rig.

And yes, I'm getting the omega. I transfer money to you and you help buy? Me no credit card or PayPal. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 22 2014, 09:17 PM)
WHY DIDN'T I FIND OUT ABOUT THE COMPASS THREE WEEKS AGO. DAMNIT.

Y U DO THIS TO ME BEN.  cry.gif  cry.gif

Hahahahhahaha. But as far as portables go i guess I got as good as it gets before like you said diminishing returns gives a one nice whallop.

Maybe a LCD3 and Compass 2 next time would be my home rig.

And yes, I'm getting the omega. I transfer money to you and you help buy? Me no credit card or PayPal. sad.gif
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Because... their new 2014 Compass 2 just came out of the blue like 2 days ago. Then they proceeded to update their entire line-up... shocking.gif

Oi, LCD-X + Compass 2 lah. icon_idea.gif

No paypal or credit card?! Whoa, you walk into stores with cold hard cash to purchase your stuff??? shocking.gif

I'll enquire and see how long they take to send the Omega Stands first, since I'm gonna be shifting house in the next 2 months and also going to the US in August or something like that. The last time I purchased from Massdrop, it took 7 weeks for my stuff to arrive... not including the days made waiting for the group buy to be over. So that was about 8+ weeks total. doh.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 22 2014, 09:22 PM)
Because... their new 2014 Compass 2 just came out of the blue like 2 days ago. Then they proceeded to update their entire line-up...  shocking.gif

Oi, LCD-X + Compass 2 lah. icon_idea.gif

No paypal or credit card?! Whoa, you walk into stores with cold hard cash to purchase your stuff??? shocking.gif

I'll enquire and see how long they take to send the Omega Stands first, since I'm gonna be shifting house in the next 2 months and also going to the US in August or something like that. The last time I purchased from Massdrop, it took 7 weeks for my stuff to arrive... not including the days made waiting for the group buy to be over. So that was about 8+ weeks total. doh.gif
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Wah bro Ben going US can bring back souvenir a? Like a balanced cable for my HD800 tongue.gif

Had an interesting experience today..driving long distance so I thought WTH so I used my can unamped with my Lumia.

Ok la..its not as bad as expected..I would say the HD800 was at 50% its normal performance..
Volume wasn't a problem but the bass felt like the headphone hadn't eaten for a week(hitting a wet blanket comes to mind) and the highs felt like broken glass scratching my ears LOL.
....and it was a 6-hour drive sweat.gif

(Btw I know not supposed to be using headphones while driving but curiosity got the better of me. The road from Kota Bharu to Kuantan pretty straightforward anyways whistling.gif )

Now back home already... I have a new appreciation for my Precision 2 wub.gif
I definitely have to try it with Borderlands 2 once my Omni arrives..

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 22 2014, 09:22 PM)
Because... their new 2014 Compass 2 just came out of the blue like 2 days ago. Then they proceeded to update their entire line-up...  shocking.gif

Oi, LCD-X + Compass 2 lah. icon_idea.gif

No paypal or credit card?! Whoa, you walk into stores with cold hard cash to purchase your stuff??? shocking.gif

I'll enquire and see how long they take to send the Omega Stands first, since I'm gonna be shifting house in the next 2 months and also going to the US in August or something like that. The last time I purchased from Massdrop, it took 7 weeks for my stuff to arrive... not including the days made waiting for the group buy to be over. So that was about 8+ weeks total. doh.gif
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But...But....But...still. now kena poison edi. Damn it Ben. Hahahahahahhahhaha.

Eh? Isn't LCD3 higher end? Or I straight get AKG K802. Huehuehue. But that's I'm the future. Maybe LCD X v.2 is out. Lel.

Yeah lol. All my purchases since last time has been cash. Easier to get discounts. Phone, shoe,audio, pc components. Hahhahaah. tongue.gif
Let a madafacking drug dealer. Trololololol.

Wah 8 weeks. Should not be that bad now lah. But I don't mind holding it on for you worse comes to worse. I can transfer money to you via ATM lah. You let me know before the buy closes.

How nice if I had $3000 lying around. Buy T1, AKG, Compass and Centrance. then sell the T1. Wakaka.

QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 22 2014, 11:00 PM)
Wah bro Ben going US can bring back souvenir a? Like a balanced cable for my HD800 tongue.gif

Had an interesting experience today..driving long distance so I thought WTH so I used my can unamped with my Lumia.

Ok la..its not as bad as expected..I would say the HD800 was at 50% its normal performance..
Volume wasn't a problem but the bass felt like the headphone hadn't eaten for a week(hitting a wet blanket comes to mind) and the highs felt like broken glass scratching my ears LOL.
....and it was a 6-hour drive  sweat.gif

(Btw I know not supposed to be using headphones while driving but curiosity got the better of me. The road from Kota Bharu to Kuantan pretty straightforward anyways  whistling.gif )

Now back home already... I have a new appreciation for my Precision 2  wub.gif
I definitely have to try it with Borderlands 2 once my Omni arrives..
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Hahahahahhahahahahhahahaha. If any audiophile pass by you sure say 'FUUUUUUUUUUUU ada legend dengan HD800 dia balik kampung!' Looooool.

Yeah man, you don't appreciate how good your AMP/DAC is till you listen without it. My phone could barely muster a base kick. But at max volume it actually felt neutral, albeit volume abit soft.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 22 2014, 11:17 PM)
Hahahahahhahahahahhahahaha. If any audiophile pass by you sure say 'FUUUUUUUUUUUU ada legend dengan HD800 dia balik kampung!' Looooool.

Yeah man, you don't appreciate how good your AMP/DAC is till you listen without it. My phone could barely muster a base kick. But at max volume it actually felt neutral, albeit volume abit soft.
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Hahaha I did get a few stares but I think it has more to do with the fact that the darn thing is so huge and looks like something out of Star Wars sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 22 2014, 11:25 PM)
Hahaha I did get a few stares but I think it has more to do with the fact that the darn thing is so huge and looks like something out of Star Wars  sweat.gif
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Lol. You got in car audio? I got HD800 B**ch!! Looooool laugh.gif

Yeah massive thing, but surprisingly very light and comfy. One if my highest rated in terms of comfort.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 22 2014, 11:29 PM)
Lol. You got in car audio? I got HD800 B**ch!! Looooool  laugh.gif

Yeah massive thing, but surprisingly very light and comfy. One if my highest rated in terms of comfort.
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Yep..for the size and weight I hardly feel it and after some time you forget it's there..a bit weird to find a huge headphone more comfortable than my Vsonic GR07 sweat.gif

That's the reason I choose this headphone for my gaming actually..comfort for those long sessions and the soundstage for soundwhoring tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 22 2014, 09:46 PM)
But...But....But...still.  now kena poison edi. Damn it Ben. Hahahahahahhahhaha.

Eh? Isn't LCD3 higher end? Or I straight get AKG K802. Huehuehue. But that's I'm the future. Maybe LCD X v.2 is out. Lel.

Yeah lol. All my purchases since last time has been cash. Easier to get discounts. Phone, shoe,audio, pc components. Hahhahaah.  tongue.gif
Let a madafacking drug dealer. Trololololol.

Wah 8 weeks. Should not be that bad now lah. But I don't mind holding it on for you worse comes to worse. I can transfer money to you via ATM lah. You let me know before the buy closes.

How nice if I had $3000 lying around. Buy T1, AKG, Compass and Centrance. then sell the T1. Wakaka.
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I hope it isn't so bad anymore. It also depends how long the manufacturer send the items to Massdrop's warehouse. I e-mailed them, hopefully hear from them soon.


QUOTE(bl@ze @ May 22 2014, 11:00 PM)
Wah bro Ben going US can bring back souvenir a? Like a balanced cable for my HD800 tongue.gif

Had an interesting experience today..driving long distance so I thought WTH so I used my can unamped with my Lumia.

Ok la..its not as bad as expected..I would say the HD800 was at 50% its normal performance..
Volume wasn't a problem but the bass felt like the headphone hadn't eaten for a week(hitting a wet blanket comes to mind) and the highs felt like broken glass scratching my ears LOL.
....and it was a 6-hour drive  sweat.gif

(Btw I know not supposed to be using headphones while driving but curiosity got the better of me. The road from Kota Bharu to Kuantan pretty straightforward anyways  whistling.gif )

Now back home already... I have a new appreciation for my Precision 2  wub.gif
I definitely have to try it with Borderlands 2 once my Omni arrives..
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Maybe can, if you willing to wait lelz. I'm going to the US to visit my wife, so yeah... gonna be a few months. Not a 1 week trip.

Surprisingly, the new Wolfenstein isn't too bad either.
Oh and if you have Mirror's Edge, that's another good game try out for positional cues (in fact, was the benchmark until Borderlands 2 came out)

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 23 2014, 12:39 AM)
I hope it isn't so bad anymore. It also depends how long the manufacturer send the items to Massdrop's warehouse. I e-mailed them, hopefully hear from them soon.
Maybe can, if you willing to wait lelz. I'm going to the US to visit my wife, so yeah... gonna be a few months. Not a 1 week trip.

Surprisingly, the new Wolfenstein isn't too bad either.
Oh and if you have Mirror's Edge, that's another good game try out for positional cues (in fact, was the benchmark until Borderlands 2 came out)
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I don't mind either way. But of course the faster I get my hands on the Omegas the better. Hahahaha. Just keep me posted. biggrin.gif

Mirror's Edge! Loved the soundtrack. Itching to get back into borderlands soon.

Oh, and this is for you. tongue.gif
http://www.headfonia.com/hifiman-he-560-un...rst-impression/

Audio Technica M50 is now only $99.99 on Massdrop!!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ath-m50?mode=guest_open

HOOORRRRRYYYY SHEEEEET.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 23 2014, 03:32 AM)
I don't mind either way.  But of course the faster I get my hands on the Omegas the better. Hahahaha. Just keep me posted. biggrin.gif

Mirror's Edge! Loved the soundtrack. Itching to get back into borderlands soon.

Oh, and this is for you.  tongue.gif
http://www.headfonia.com/hifiman-he-560-un...rst-impression/
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Been doing a bunch of HE-560 research... if I'm getting it, I'd definitely want the original HE-500 pads back instead. The stock pads on the HE-560 are a little too shallow.

As for the Omega stands, there are people just receiving their first batch orders like today... and that order was made 2 months ago. doh.gif
The worst thing? The stand is unfinished, there's no lacquer polish to it to make the stand look a bit glossy and smooth. It's just sanded wood. Omega says they will fix their shit up next time though... You still interested?


QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 23 2014, 07:08 PM)
Audio Technica M50 is now only $99.99 on Massdrop!!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ath-m50?mode=guest_open

HOOORRRRRYYYY SHEEEEET.
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Wish it is the M50x instead.
The original M50 needs the stretch mod and some taming of the treble.


Also, been checking up on Kingston's HyperX Cloud... the price, wow. They're selling it in the US for a $100, that's stunning value.
If Kingston can bring this over here at a similar price point, I think we've gota budget winner here.

Sentinel92

Hey man, I think after doing 2 days of research on the Omega stands selling on Massdrop, I'm not confident in the quality... even if it's $37. I asked a few of the guys I personally know and they said the quality is no different from buying the fakes from eBay and aliexpress.

Couple of them even had theirs with the feet un-even and the manufacturer wouldn't exchange it.

So yeah, might as well I go to the US and buy it during black friday or something. At least I can look at the product first to check for defects.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 23 2014, 07:58 PM)
Been doing a bunch of HE-560 research... if I'm getting it, I'd definitely want the original HE-500 pads back instead. The stock pads on the HE-560 are a little too shallow.

As for the Omega stands, there are people just receiving their first batch orders like today... and that order was made 2 months ago. doh.gif
The worst thing? The stand is unfinished, there's no lacquer polish to it to make the stand look a bit glossy and smooth. It's just sanded wood. Omega says they will fix their shit up next time though... You still interested?
Wish it is the M50x instead.
The original M50 needs the stretch mod and some taming of the treble.
Also, been checking up on Kingston's HyperX Cloud... the price, wow. They're selling it in the US for a $100, that's stunning value.
If Kingston can bring this over here at a similar price point, I think we've gota budget winner here.
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Heheheheh, I smell a happy camper in the HiFiMan store soon. brows.gif

Really? Wow you've been digging. Erm, I don't mind. I mean it's $36 mate. If it's the original Omega costing $200 then I'll think twice. Not sure how they will keep their promise of fixing this shit. Hahaha.

Up to you. If you're getting then I follow.

Well, at $99.99 there is not much to complain really. Hahaha. Which is coincidentally the same price range the Kingston has landed apon. Agreed, if they don't skimp on the important parts and keep the sound as good as it was, we have a definite winner here on our hands.

Sorry diaBoliQu3 but....

Bottlehead Crack with speedball upgrade at RM1123 shipped.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/bottlehead-cra...mode=guest_open

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 25 2014, 04:15 PM)
Sentinel92

Hey man, I think after doing 2 days of research on the Omega stands selling on Massdrop, I'm not confident in the quality... even if it's $37. I asked a few of the guys I personally know and they said the quality is no different from buying the fakes from eBay and aliexpress.

Couple of them even had theirs with the feet  un-even and the manufacturer wouldn't exchange it.

So yeah, might as well I go to the US and buy it during black friday or something. At least I can look at the product first to check for defects.
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sad.gif(((((((((((

But Massdrop did tell the manufacturer to go their shit together.

But based on your research the previous buy does sound extremely bad..

Sigh, alright then. Help me get one during black Friday or something.

AH ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG SSJBen!!!


Original Sieveking Omega headphone stand!!! Not the Massdrop knockoff. This one is €59 only.

http://www.soundconsult.nl/pagina_item.php...gorienaam=SALES
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 04:39 AM)
Sorry diaBoliQu3 but....

Bottlehead Crack with speedball upgrade at RM1123 shipped.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/bottlehead-cra...mode=guest_open

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
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Not so much different. Just $60 and that excluding labor charge. Good quality of paint is a must for the panel because they can be hot. Cheapest powder coating is RM50. The wood surface is rough, need sanding and painting some more. And not to mention missing parts sometimes. And recommended assembler by BH charge you $250 for BASIC assembling. That's excluding custom paint etc. So, I don't affect by massdrop. brows.gif

Using custom cable for internal some more. icon_idea.gif

But why in gaming headset club? Gaming headset is ..... And no need Crack. laugh.gif Those Razer headphone can crack the driver it self. laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ May 24 2014, 09:18 AM)
Not so much different. Just $60 and that excluding labor charge. Good quality of paint is a must for the panel because they can be hot. Cheapest powder coating is RM50. The wood surface is rough, need sanding and painting some more. And not to mention missing parts sometimes. And recommended assembler by BH charge you $250 for BASIC assembling. That's excluding custom paint etc. So, I don't affect by massdrop. brows.gif

Using custom cable for internal some more. icon_idea.gif
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The heck? I thought it ships to your whole and ready to fire at all cylinders. Ahhahahaha. Oh well, so much for that. Thought $350 was a good deal.

Cuz we always share Massdrop deals here. Hahahaha. They got some pretty sweet discounts for headsets. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 11:00 AM)
The heck? I thought it ships to your whole and ready to fire at all cylinders. Ahhahahaha. Oh well, so much for that. Thought $350 was a good deal.

Cuz we always share Massdrop deals here. Hahahaha. They got some pretty sweet discounts for headsets.  laugh.gif
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It's a DiY amp. What do you expect? Haha... There's a reason that amp compared with $1000 amp. Actually the sound better than $350.
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ May 24 2014, 11:50 AM)
It's a DiY amp. What do you expect? Haha... There's a reason that amp compared with $1000 amp. Actually the sound better than $350.
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Meh, nevrmind then hahahah. Go join the Massdrop for the Beyer T1 instead. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 25 2014, 12:40 AM)
Meh, nevrmind then hahahah. Go join the Massdrop for the Beyer T1 instead. tongue.gif
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Nope... HD600 is enough for now. I need a better DAC. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ May 25 2014, 01:39 AM)
Nope... HD600 is enough for now. I need a better DAC.  laugh.gif
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This, no?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/centrance-dacmini-px
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 25 2014, 05:52 AM)
Bo lui wa... Haha... So many crazy massdrop recently but damn, wallet say no. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ May 25 2014, 09:38 AM)
Bo lui wa... Haha... So many crazy massdrop recently but damn, wallet say no.  sweat.gif
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Hahahaha that's why I said we share Massdrop deals here. Its good stuff. But alot can see, cannot touch. Because wallet empty. Hahahha.
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guys RM200 budget which headphone can i get?
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Finally got my CAL2~ biggrin.gif

I haven't test it with my Xonar DG sound card but here's the first impression.
Currently testing with my xperia Z1 Compact smartphone with poweramp.

First, it's really lightweight, lighter than my previous Razer Carcharias, and it doesn't grabbed on your head too hard and make your head not comfortable after a while of listening to it.

Build quality wise....feels solid but not sure about durability as I have only used it for like 1 hour.

Sound quality: the bass is really good and doesn't muffle until spread to mid or something like that. I will comment more about this after I tested it with my sound card. (Currently not at home tongue.gif )


The volume control module on this headset is quite special, instead of a wheel rolling up or down like the Razer Carcharias(maybe most of the headset as well), it uses a slide to slide up or down the volume.
I'm not sure but it maybe a better way to prevent the dust from entering into it and causing hissing sound when adjusting the volume, which is a common problem for a headset after a long period of use.

One thing that I don't like is the 2.5mm port. It didn't grab the cable firmly and the cable is easy to get loosen when you accidentally tear the cable or something else.
And it seems that the 2.5mm end of the cable must be inserted in the exact position(the headset's 2.5mm port hole is round but surrounding it is triangle shape and the 2.5mm end of the cable is also triangle shape. If you didn't insert it according to the shape, the cable may not be inserted fully).
I might post a picture on this later when I reached home.

**Update1: It seems that I didn't insert it completely at that time. After inserted it properly, it works fine.***

And it's using leather cushion and it did get a bit warmer after a while of usage. I think this is very common for a leather cushion.

Thanks SSJBen for suggesting this headset.

Update2:
The cable is quite short(I think it is designed to be used with smartphone) to be used with desktop especially you want to plug it directly into the sound card port, and you need a splitter to separate mic and audio for the mic to be working on desktop/laptop.

I feel that after I put it on my head, the cup is able to cover my ear completely and like it attached to my ears firmly.
Those wearing spectacle don't need to worry as you won't feel that it push towards your ear too hard that will cause you pain. I know because I'm wearing spectacle. tongue.gif

For sound quality, I can't plug it directly into my xonar dg sound card as the cable is too short(might wanna buy an extension cable). So I plugged it into the front panel instead.
Configured the amp to be Pro-gaming mode(32~64ohms headphones).

Bass is good as mentioned before, mid and high is good for me. I'm not a music audiophile so I can't describe in detail. As far as I concerned, the high is good and won't go too high that will hurt your ear.
But overall, bass is the main dish in this headset.

Ohh, yea, I did feel that it has some "noise-cancellation" features. I can rarely hear any ambient sound when I'm hearing songs and only hear minimum ambient sound when I'm not hearing music.
Or it maybe I turned a bit more of the volume.

Conclusion:
Pros:
- very good bass
- nice mid and high
- comfortable
- won't hurt those wearing spectacle
- a little noise-cancellation?(maybe)

Cons:
- cable is too short to use with desktop
- need splitter to use the mic with desktop
- Leather cushion gets warmer after a while
- Missing mic mute button(should be normal since it is designed for smartphone)

Small opinion:
- like how it attached to my ears.
- like the volume control module design
- Prefer nondetachable cable but this ain't bad though.

The above is only my personal opinion and might not apply to you since you and I have "different" ears. laugh.gif

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Idk why, but whenever I use gaming-brand earphone/headphone the sure always sure I accidentally pull on it :I But when I use other brands like Sennheiser or Denons it never happens LOL.
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QUOTE(snowberry @ Jun 1 2014, 02:13 PM)
guys RM200 budget which headphone can i get?
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Logitech G230 Stereo Gaming Headset.

Nicely priced. Solid sound. Easy to maintain. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(alexdark @ Jun 2 2014, 02:46 PM)
Finally got my CAL2~ biggrin.gif
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Conclusion:
Pros:
- very good bass
- nice mid and high
- comfortable
- won't hurt those wearing spectacle
- a little noise-cancellation?(maybe)

Cons:
- cable is too short to use with desktop
- need splitter to use the mic with desktop
- Leather cushion gets warmer after a while
- Missing mic mute button(should be normal since it is designed for smartphone)

Small opinion:
- like how it attached to my ears.
- like the volume control module design
- Prefer nondetachable cable but this ain't bad though.

The above is only my personal opinion and might not apply to you since you and I have "different" ears. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jun 4 2014, 01:47 PM)
Idk why, but whenever I use gaming-brand earphone/headphone the sure always sure I accidentally pull on it :I But when I use other brands like Sennheiser or Denons it never happens LOL.
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We are always more careful with expensive good stuff. tongue.gif
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Have anybody tried Astro brand? i owned Astro A50. and it's awesome.
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Have anybody tried Astro brand? i owned Astro A50. and it's awesome.
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Yes and they're overpriced.

I personally didn't like the A50. Bloated bass, eats way too much into the mids and recessed way too much detail. Granted at times, it can sound quite immersive as the A50 does extend very low, nearly sub-bass area. But otherwise, poor soundstage with inconsistent imaging, not enough extension on the treble and lack of attack overall. Also, the mic sucks.

I do like wireless, I love it in fact. It's just sad that Astro would price the A50 at such a crazy high price when it isn't even worth that much when you calculate the cost to make the headset and the R&D that goes into it. The bulk of the money is spent marketing and sponsoring. There's no reason why the A50 couldn't be priced lower than $170 (or less than RM600 in Malaysia).
There simply exists far too many headphones in the A50's price category to even warrant looking at the A50.

My 2 cents.

QUOTE(alexdark @ Jun 2 2014, 02:46 PM)
Finally got my CAL2~ biggrin.gif

I haven't test it with my Xonar DG sound card but here's the first impression.
Currently testing with my xperia Z1 Compact smartphone with poweramp.

First, it's really lightweight, lighter than my previous Razer Carcharias, and it doesn't grabbed on your head too hard and make your head not comfortable after a while of listening to it.

Build quality wise....feels solid but not sure about durability as I have only used it for like 1 hour.

Sound quality: the bass is really good and doesn't muffle until spread to mid or something like that. I will comment more about this after I tested it with my sound card. (Currently not at home tongue.gif )
The volume control module on this headset is quite special, instead of a wheel rolling up or down like the Razer Carcharias(maybe most of the headset as well), it uses a slide to slide up or down the volume.
I'm not sure but it maybe a better way to prevent the dust from entering into it and causing hissing sound when adjusting the volume, which is a common problem for a headset after a long period of use.

One thing that I don't like is the 2.5mm port. It didn't grab the cable firmly and the cable is easy to get loosen when you accidentally tear the cable or something else.
And it seems that the 2.5mm end of the cable must be inserted in the exact position(the headset's 2.5mm port hole is round but surrounding it is triangle shape and the 2.5mm end of the cable is also triangle shape. If you didn't insert it according to the shape, the cable may not be inserted fully).
I might post a picture on this later when I reached home.

**Update1: It seems that I didn't insert it completely at that time. After inserted it properly, it works fine.***

And it's using leather cushion and it did get a bit warmer after a while of usage. I think this is very common for a leather cushion.

Thanks SSJBen for suggesting this headset.

Update2:
The cable is quite short(I think it is designed to be used with smartphone) to be used with desktop especially you want to plug it directly into the sound card port, and you need a splitter to separate mic and audio for the mic to be working on desktop/laptop.

I feel that after I put it on my head, the cup is able to cover my ear completely and like it attached to my ears firmly.
Those wearing spectacle don't need to worry as you won't feel that it push towards your ear too hard that will cause you pain. I know because I'm wearing spectacle. tongue.gif

For sound quality, I can't plug it directly into my xonar dg sound card as the cable is too short(might wanna buy an extension cable). So I plugged it into the front panel instead.
Configured the amp to be Pro-gaming mode(32~64ohms headphones).

Bass is good as mentioned before, mid and high is good for me. I'm not a music audiophile so I can't describe in detail. As far as I concerned, the high is good and won't go too high that will hurt your ear.
But overall, bass is the main dish in this headset.

Ohh, yea, I did feel that it has some "noise-cancellation" features. I can rarely hear any ambient sound when I'm hearing songs and only hear minimum ambient sound when I'm not hearing music.
Or it maybe I turned a bit more of the volume.

Conclusion:
Pros:
- very good bass
- nice mid and high
- comfortable
- won't hurt those wearing spectacle
- a little noise-cancellation?(maybe)

Cons:
- cable is too short to use with desktop
- need splitter to use the mic with desktop
- Leather cushion gets warmer after a while
- Missing mic mute button(should be normal since it is designed for smartphone)

Small opinion:
- like how it attached to my ears.
- like the volume control module design
- Prefer nondetachable cable but this ain't bad though.

The above is only my personal opinion and might not apply to you since you and I have "different" ears. laugh.gif
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Glad to see you're at least liking it.

Great points on the flaws of the CAL2 as well. Creative should have supplied an extension cable to begin with. But fortunately the 2.5mm jack means there are plenty of aftermarket cables you can buy, maybe even ask someone to make you a custom cable and terminate with whatever connector you see fit.

You're not hearing any active noise-cancellation, rather because the CAL2 is an entirely closed and sealed design headphone. The pleather pads isolates noise well too.

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erm..i have a low budget.stuck with this 2.1 open and 1 close type.
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Logitech G230 Stereo Gaming Headset.

Nicely priced. Solid sound. Easy to maintain.  rclxms.gif
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Creative having sale in Singapore PC show.

CAL! is SGD 59 and CAL!2 is SGD 129.
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QUOTE(wira_laju @ Jun 5 2014, 06:18 PM)
erm..i have a low budget.stuck with this 2.1 open and 1 close type.
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Aurvana 2. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Jun 5 2014, 11:47 PM)
Creative having sale in Singapore PC show.

CAL! is SGD 59 and CAL!2 is SGD 129.
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shocking.gif Damn, that's cheap.
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shocking.gif Damn, that's cheap.
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Yeah tempted to buy actually.

Their SG online store can order same price as well without the hassle of going to the PC show.
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Just got back from 2 weeks outstation and found poslaju note for my Omni..going to get it tomorrow..
Btw anyone here interested in my ZXR?
If brothers from this thread PM me I will give supah-special price instead of the listed RM500 tongue.gif
Just mention came from this gaming headset thread hehe...
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Jun 6 2014, 12:09 AM)
Yeah tempted to buy actually.

Their SG online store can order same price as well without the hassle of going to the PC show.
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Would have gotten it too, but decided to keep the HD558 for gaming instead. sweat.gif Still loving the nice Sharp treble and soundstage.

QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 6 2014, 01:40 AM)
Just got back from 2 weeks outstation and found poslaju note for my Omni..going to get it tomorrow..
Btw anyone here interested in my ZXR?
If brothers from this thread PM me I will give supah-special price instead of the listed RM500 tongue.gif
Just mention came from this gaming headset thread hehe...
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Wah, serious boh. drool.gif

But I don't know how the sQ is like compared to my Titanium Professional
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 10:25 AM)
Wah, serious boh.  drool.gif

But I don't know how the sQ is like compared to my Titanium Professional
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Haha I can't say for sure also since I never got to try it out tongue.gif
I only get to touch and caress it..can say it's a very sexy sound card and I feel sorry not being able to use it sweat.gif \
Btw the warranty actually got 1 more month left until 17th July from lingloong iinm..I just checked
*Edit: Can't find my optical cable to connect the omni to the Mini-I..crap...hahaha..time to look at garage sales..

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 6 2014, 11:16 AM)
Haha I can't say for sure also since I never got to try it out  tongue.gif
I only get to touch and caress it..can say it's a very sexy sound card and I feel sorry not being able to use it  sweat.gif \
Btw the warranty actually got 1 more month left until 17th July from lingloong iinm..I just checked
*Edit: Can't find my optical cable to connect the omni to the Mini-I..crap...hahaha..time to look at garage sales..
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Hmmmm, give it to me as bday present then. Huehuehue tongue.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 02:18 PM)
Hmmmm, give it to me as bday present then. Huehuehue  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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Haha nice try..when ur bday though, today my 2 year ol bday biggrin.gif
For bros here i will let go just enough to cover cost of my omni hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 6 2014, 02:35 PM)
Haha nice try..when ur bday though, today my 2 year ol bday  biggrin.gif
For bros here i will let go just enough to cover cost of my omni  hmm.gif
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Lol. But I really want that sound card. Matches my build perfectly. Nuuuuuuu. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 02:45 PM)
Lol.  But I really want that sound card. Matches my build perfectly. Nuuuuuuu. cry.gif
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Ya like I said..the red and black design..with the em shield...dayum....
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So Sentinel92 going to take up bl@ze offer on the ZxR? If not I think I'm gonna be poisoned too... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 6 2014, 03:52 PM)
Ya like I said..the red and black design..with the em shield...dayum....
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PM best price. See if can sacrifice or not. Haha

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 6 2014, 10:29 PM)
So Sentinel92 going to take up bl@ze offer on the ZxR? If not I think I'm gonna be poisoned too... whistling.gif
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Nooooooooooooo it's mine!!! Hahahahahahhahhaha. Haven't heard from him anyways. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 10:51 PM)
Nooooooooooooo it's mine!!! Hahahahahahhahhaha. Haven't heard from him anyways.  cry.gif
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Haha sorry just got back..PM'ed

Haha lai lai..this is once in a lifetime offer.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 10:51 PM)
Nooooooooooooo it's mine!!! Hahahahahahhahhaha. Haven't heard from him anyways.  cry.gif
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Lol I just PM'd him. See you want or not, if not I'm fine in picking it up. Kinda sick of switching my speakers and headphones around on my X1 Pro lol.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 6 2014, 11:07 PM)
Lol I just PM'd him. See you want or not, if not I'm fine in picking it up. Kinda sick of switching my speakers and headphones around on my X1 Pro lol.
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I want. But my WC stuff just arrived plus I need a monitor. So no choice. Sigh. You get it lah.


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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 11:13 PM)
I want. But my WC stuff just arrived plus I need a monitor. So no choice. Sigh. You get it lah.
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Yeah PMing him now.

Awww man I'm still waiting for my WC stuff. Fudge cake long! Ugh.
What's the total you got taxed?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 6 2014, 11:18 PM)
Yeah PMing him now.

Awww man I'm still waiting for my WC stuff. Fudge cake long! Ugh.
What's the total you got taxed?
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First shipment escape. Second shipment over RM300+ total. This last two shipments also forgot I paid how much already. RM100++. Sigh.

Enjoy your ZXR man. Me jelly.

Anyways here is Sneak previews.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 11:38 PM)
First shipment escape. Second shipment over RM300+ total. This last two shipments also forgot I paid how much already. RM100++. Sigh.

Enjoy your ZXR man. Me jelly.

Anyways here is Sneak previews.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Woah that's some nice stuff there...
I just hooked up my Omni to my DAC but no PC to test games with yet haha...
Is it my imagination or does Scout mode bring out more details in songs..turned it on and all the fine details at lower frequencies sort of became easier to hear blink.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 6 2014, 11:58 PM)
Woah that's some nice stuff there...
I just hooked up my Omni to my DAC but no PC to test games with yet haha...
Is it my imagination or does Scout mode bring out more details in songs..turned it on and all the fine details at lower frequencies sort of became easier to hear  blink.gif
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Thanks brah. Hopefully soon I'll he able to get it up and running.

Hmm, it does what I call the spike trick, if I'm guessing correctly. They Jack up 8-10KHz frequencies to have a psycho acoustic effect where fake details are pulled out.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 6 2014, 11:38 PM)
First shipment escape. Second shipment over RM300+ total. This last two shipments also forgot I paid how much already. RM100++. Sigh.

Enjoy your ZXR man. Me jelly.

Anyways here is Sneak previews.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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............

Die lah. /fingers crossed.


QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 6 2014, 11:58 PM)
Woah that's some nice stuff there...
I just hooked up my Omni to my DAC but no PC to test games with yet haha...
Is it my imagination or does Scout mode bring out more details in songs..turned it on and all the fine details at lower frequencies sort of became easier to hear  blink.gif
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Not your imagination. Scout mode acentuates the high-range while entirely killing the bass.

I generally don't like it as it kills audio quality as a whole. Perhaps it may be useful in some situations, but I generally think it does more harm than good.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 7 2014, 03:02 AM)
............

Die lah. /fingers crossed.
Not your imagination. Scout mode acentuates the high-range while entirely killing the bass.

I generally don't like it as it kills audio quality as a whole. Perhaps it may be useful in some situations, but I generally think it does more harm than good.
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Apa you beli lol?

Yeap, 8-10KHz range. Bose has been doing it for a loooong time. Robs the bass and adds forced details.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 7 2014, 03:43 AM)
Apa you beli lol?

Yeap, 8-10KHz range. Bose has been doing it for a loooong time. Robs the bass and adds forced details.
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Quite a lot in one package.

An EK D5 pump, EK CPU block, XSPC Razor... some compression fittings from Bitspower and so on. Don't know how much tax is gonna be. If escape I belanja yumcha for you guys.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 7 2014, 04:37 AM)
Quite a lot in one package.

An EK D5 pump, EK CPU block, XSPC Razor... some compression fittings from Bitspower and so on. Don't know how much tax is gonna be. If escape I belanja yumcha for you guys.
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Waaaaaaaaaah yum cha. I'll take a ribs and beer thank you very much. Haha.

But yeah better pray. Judging by your items you'll easily kena Rm350+ if they slap their classic 20+10% tax. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 7 2014, 04:43 AM)
Waaaaaaaaaah yum cha. I'll take a ribs and beer thank you very much. Haha.

But yeah better pray. Judging by your items you'll easily kena Rm350+ if they slap their classic 20+10% tax.  sweat.gif
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Thinking about ribs so early in the morning..now feel so hungry haha...
Anyway yea I decided to turn it off too...prefer the music as it's meant to be hear..I don't mind EQing with my GR07 but...just not with the HD800..feels wrong man..
I borrow Nvidia's slogan..the way it's meant to be heard tongue.gif
Don't shoot me though, me new rig AMD all the way..after years of Green Team.

Nvidia turning into Apple with their anti competition practices.. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 7 2014, 06:41 AM)
Thinking about ribs so early in the morning..now feel so hungry haha...
Anyway yea I decided to turn it off too...prefer the music as it's meant to be hear..I don't mind EQing with my GR07 but...just not with the HD800..feels wrong man..
I borrow Nvidia's slogan..the way it's meant to be heard  tongue.gif
Don't shoot me though, me new rig AMD all the way..after years of Green Team.

Nvidia turning into Apple with their anti competition practices.. shakehead.gif
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You kidding brah? I've been at AMD's camp since 2003. Ahhaha. Welcome abroad matey!

Yeah, had epic ribs yesterday at Friday's. It's Ben's treat for both of us. Hehe.

Yeah HD800 if you skewer with effects and frequencies it's gonna make it sound out of whack. HD800 prefers clean neutral sources.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 7 2014, 06:48 AM)
You kidding brah? I've been at AMD's camp since 2003. Ahhaha. Welcome abroad matey!

Yeah, had epic ribs yesterday at Friday's. It's Ben's treat for both of us. Hehe.

Yeah HD800 if you skewer with effects and frequencies it's gonna make it sound out of whack. HD800 prefers clean neutral sources.
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Nope. This is my GPU History: Voodo 2, Geforce 1, Geforce 2, Geforce 7900 GTX, GTX 260, GTX570..GTX660m (my dark age lol). and now quad R9 290s thumbup.gif

Btw, how do I set up the Omni for gaming surround through SPDIF?
When I tick the Dolby Digital Live box garbles of static keeps coming through the headphone constantly.. sweat.gif
Anyone with experience in SBX Pro Studio?
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 7 2014, 08:27 AM)
Nope. This is my GPU History: Voodo 2, Geforce 1, Geforce 2, Geforce 7900 GTX, GTX 260, GTX570..GTX660m (my dark age lol). and now quad R9 290s  thumbup.gif

Btw, how do I set up the Omni for gaming surround through SPDIF?
When I tick the Dolby Digital Live box garbles of static keeps coming through the headphone constantly.. sweat.gif
Anyone with experience in SBX Pro Studio?
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You don't tick the DDL unless you're sending the signal to Dolby Headphone device (like the Astro Mixamp or TurtleBeach DSS for example). Remember, your DAC cannot decode a DDL/DTS signal because it lacks the DSP to do so. You have to mix the signal into stereo first.

So basically you set Windows to 5.1, enable SBX Surround and adjust the amount you like (73% is the sweet spot for me, but your mileage may vary) and send a stereo mix signal through optical.

If you have issues about SBX not working out of optical (which I didn't), you may want to stick a 3.5mm adapter into the headphone port on the Omni. Doesn't have to be connected.
I don't know how but this person on Head-fi has issues with SBX Surround not working out of his Omni's optical port - http://www.head-fi.org/t/623079/creative-s...0#post_10505429

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 7 2014, 01:43 PM)
You don't tick the DDL unless you're sending the signal to Dolby Headphone device (like the Astro Mixamp or TurtleBeach DSS for example). Remember, your DAC cannot decode a DDL/DTS signal because it lacks the DSP to do so. You have to mix the signal into stereo first.

So basically you set Windows to 5.1, enable SBX Surround and adjust the amount you like (73% is the sweet spot for me, but your mileage may vary) and send a stereo mix signal through optical.

If you have issues about SBX not working out of optical (which I didn't), you may want to stick a 3.5mm adapter into the headphone port on the Omni. Doesn't have to be connected.
I don't know how but this person on Head-fi has issues with SBX Surround not working out of his Omni's optical port - http://www.head-fi.org/t/623079/creative-s...0#post_10505429
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Thanks bro got it working now. But you were right BF4 is a terrible game to test actual surround..it just sounds good..in terms of positioning accuracy it's not that good.

QUOTE(SethFellsar @ Jun 8 2014, 09:53 AM)
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Welcome bro! Good to see more people that appreciate good audio instead of HURRDURR Pixels all the time rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 7 2014, 04:43 PM)
Thanks bro got it working now. But you were right BF4 is a terrible game to test actual surround..it just sounds good..in terms of positioning accuracy it's not that good.
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Play around with the surround sliders a bit, I don't know why but Creative changed the default from 67% (on the SBZ) to 40% on the Omni. Many people find that 67% seems to be the best setting, as going higher adds a little too much reverb. I like that extra bit of reverb because to me that adds immersiveness, which why I set mine at 73%. My ears has been way too used to Dolby Headphones over the years, so... without a little bit of reverb in HRTF, it would sound weird to me.

So, E3 starts today and TurtleBeach is bringing along some new toys.

http://corp.turtlebeach.com/media-resource...-headsets-to-e3

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SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, June 9, 2014 — Turtle Beach, the leading audio brand in the video games industry, today announced new gaming headsets designed for the popular PlayStation®4 console. The new headsets, which will be available in stores in the Fall of 2014, will be on display at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in Los Angeles at Booth #1447 in the South Hall from June 10 to 12. Turtle Beach is the gaming audio brand of Turtle Beach Corporation (NASDAQ: HEAR).

“Turtle Beach is taking audio for the PlayStation®4 to a new level,” said Juergen Stark, Chief Executive Officer at Turtle Beach Corporation. “With features like DTS Headphone:X 7.1 surround sound, active noise cancellation, and our new Tournament Audio Controller, it is a whole new game for PlayStation console owners.”

The all new Ear Force Elite 800 sets a new standard for premium wireless gaming headsets. Compatible with the PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®3, the Elite 800 utilizes DTS Headphone:X 7.1 surround sound and active noise cancellation to create an incredible, immersive audio experience. Both are firsts for console gaming headsets. A completely reimagined preset system allows surround sound modes to be finely tuned for different types of games, movies and music. For example, the game surround sound mode offers presets that have been acoustically tuned for first person shooter, racing, and sports games. Presets can be customized and managed using a new mobile app. Use Bluetooth to connect a mobile device for phone calls, music and more. Dual invisible microphones provide high-quality chat audio and a clean, boom-free look. Rocker plate controls makes using features easy and keeps the Elite 800 looking sharp. Customize the look of the Elite 800 with a wide range of snap-on speaker plates available at TurtleBeach.com. A low profile magnetic charging stand keeps the Elite 800 charged without cables, and the rechargeable battery provides up to 15 hours of playing time. Available in the Fall of 2014, the Elite 800 has a US MSRP of $299.95. 

The Ear Force Stealth 400 is a fully wireless stereo headset compatible with PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®3 consoles. A new lightweight, sleek design provides comfort during long sessions of game play or movie marathons. Controls on the ear cup provide quick access to separate game and chat volume, as well as 4 distinct surround sound presets for games, movies and music.  The built-in ‘charge-and-play’ battery provides up to 15 hours of playing time, and new high-performance WiFi ensures an interference-free wireless experience. Acoustically angled, large 50mm Neodymium speakers deliver an immersive audio experience. Swap out the removable microphone for the included mobile cable with inline mic and use the Stealth 400 on the road as wired headset. Available in the Fall of 2014, the Stealth 400 has a US MSRP of $99.95.

Also showcased at E3 is the Ear Force P12 amplified stereo gaming headset, which provides high-quality digital game and chat audio through a single USB connection for the PlayStation®4. The P12 incorporates features popular with gamers, including Adjustable Bass Boost and Microphone Monitor. An inline amplifier provides easy access to volume controls microphone mute. Large 50mm speakers deliver a full-range of high-quality audio, from crisp highs to thumping lows. The P12 also disconnects from the in-line amp for use on PS VitaTM and other mobile devices. Available globally on July 10, the Ear Force P12 has a US MSRP of $59.95.

The purchase of any Elite gaming headset includes the opportunity to enroll in the Turtle Beach Elite Membership Program. Member benefits include discounts, two-year extended product warranty, early access to news and product information, and a range of unique, member-only opportunities at Major League Gaming (MLG) and other gaming events. The Turtle Beach Elite Program is only available to participants who reside in markets where Turtle Beach Elite products are sold.  Additionally, specific program benefits vary by market and will also be subject to local restrictions.

“The Turtle Beach Elite Membership Program is a unique offering for tournament professionals and competitive gamers,” said Bob Picunko, Chief Marketing Officer at Turtle Beach Corporation. “We look forward to providing members with one-of-a-kind opportunities and special benefits.”

www.turtlebeach.com/elite800
www.turtlebeach.com/stealth400
www.turtlebeach.com/p12
Now, the important part that wasn't really talked about in their press release:

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"Turtle Beach also has a slick answer to Astro’s MixAmp in the form of the Elite Tournament Audio Controller (TAC). Compatible with PS4, PS3, Xbox 360, PC, and Macs, it has a ridiculous list of features tailored to professional gamers and gameplay broadcasters. Stuff like Dolby AC3 decoding, DTS Headphone:X 7.1 surround, sliders for mixing game and chat audio, background noise limiters, audio presets, and auxiliary inputs for plugging in a mobile device or mixing in music from an external source. Interestingly, Turtle Beach says they plan to integrate the audio controller’s features into future tournament-level headsets. So the TAC is designed primarily for gamers with existing headsets who want the extended functionality."


Ho.ly. Smokes. Batman.

A be-all, end-all device that would finally freaking work across EVERY device?! drool.gif

And to add, the addition of actually being able to decode AC3 (which means Dolby Headphones guys!) AND to have DTS Headphone X which from my very, very, very brief listen recently with one of TurtleBeach's i-series headsets was mightily impressive.

TB, you have the ball in your hands now. Price it well and it'll be a stunning piece of device that I'd happily pay for.


Now, time to go get my contacts in TB to see if I can get a review unit as soon as possible.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 9 2014, 06:37 PM)
So, E3 starts today and TurtleBeach is bringing along some new toys.

http://corp.turtlebeach.com/media-resource...-headsets-to-e3
Now, the important part that wasn't really talked about in their press release:
Ho.ly. Smokes. Batman.

A be-all, end-all device that would finally freaking work across EVERY device?!  drool.gif

And to add, the addition of actually being able to decode AC3 (which means Dolby Headphones guys!) AND to have DTS Headphone X which from my very, very, very brief listen recently with one of TurtleBeach's i-series headsets was mightily impressive.

TB, you have the ball in your hands now. Price it well and it'll be a stunning piece of device that I'd happily pay for.
Now, time to go get my contacts in TB to see if I can get a review unit as soon as possible.
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Hoooooly sheet. I want that TAC. Now.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 9 2014, 08:04 PM)
Hoooooly sheet. I want that TAC. Now.
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Release date is "Fall 2014". So a few more months.

Fingers crossed it is sub-$100.

Just received bl@ze's ZxR. Nice card indeed (design wise), but the stock op-amps are way too warm for my Swans M50w. So gotta look into rolling into something with more top-end energy.

But first impressions, very nice soundstage extension in comparison to the ALC1150 that I've been testing for over a month now. The ZxR is a lot warmer than the ALC1150, till the point of actually being veiled. My M50w has become laid back, lacks attack and speed. The ALC1150 doesn't actually fare better, but it is less veiled. I'm sure rolling some different op-amps will improve things, but currently I'm not exactly 100% happy with the ZxR + M50w pairing.

I already know how SBX works with my previous SBZ, so I won't touch much about it unless anyone wants to know more.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 10 2014, 11:07 PM)
Just received bl@ze's ZxR. Great card indeed, but the stock op-amps are way too warm for my Swans M50w. So gotta look into rolling into something with more top-end energy.

But first impressions, very nice soundstage extension in comparison to the ALC1150 that I've been testing for over a month now. The ZxR is a lot warmer than the ALC1150, till the point of actually being veiled. My M50w has became laid back, lacks attack and speed. I'm sure some different op-amps will improve things, but currently I'm not exactly 100% happy with the ZxR + M50w pairing.

I already know how SBX works with my previous SBZ, so I won't touch much about it unless anyone wants to know more.
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It sounds like a good match with my more bright HD558. But bad with the LCD2. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 10 2014, 11:09 PM)
It sounds like a good match with my more bright HD558. But bad with the LCD2.  hmm.gif
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Did a quick test with the Q701, matches okay. Not thrilled to be honest, again there's a lack of speed and attack. The bass is slow. Wish it's more tight and kicks faster.

Just setting up a quick and dirty custom EQ for now until I find some different op-amps.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 9 2014, 08:04 PM)
Hoooooly sheet. I want that TAC. Now.
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Count me in too if the price is right haha...

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 10 2014, 11:18 PM)
Did a quick test with the Q701, matches okay. Not thrilled to be honest, again there's a lack of speed and attack. The bass is slow. Wish it's more tight and kicks faster.

Just setting up a quick and dirty custom EQ for now until I find some different op-amps.
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Do share wat opamps you thinking of getting biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 10 2014, 11:22 PM)
Do share wat opamps you thinking of getting  biggrin.gif
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Not sure yet. A friend suggested MUSES01 but damn, that's even slower than the stock LME49710 eventhough bass extends deeper.

Probably looking into the ADA4627, but quite expensive. Sometimes these op-amp switches is never worth it, lots of snake oil going around them. So gotta source out properly.

Oh wow, the ADC on the ZxR is AWESOME!

My cheap $2 lapel mic from DX.com sounds nearly as good as the $30 V-moda BoomPro! Wadafak?!

Found a pair of MUSES01 op-amps that I've forgotten about in my drawer. Slapped it onto the ZxR, bass somehow tighten up instead of getting even warmer and looser. Stil lacking on top-end energy, but EQ'ing a few decibels off the high-mids fixes thing mostly.

* A note to those who uses software EQ, ALWAYS EQ down and not up. It is better to take off something that is already there instead of artificially adding something that isn't. Although EQing up always seems easier as you don't have to account for subtraction of the other ranges, but it can potentially add clipping/distortion when too much decibels is added to a single range.

Happy with this setup for now. Of course till looking into buying a second hand ADA4627. $20 way too expensive for just 1 piece of op-amp. They're not worth that much.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 11 2014, 12:00 AM)
Oh wow, the ADC on the ZxR is AWESOME!

My cheap $2 lapel mic from DX.com sounds nearly as good as the $30 V-moda BoomPro! Wadafak?!
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DX.com mic's FTW! Hahahaha.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 11 2014, 12:14 AM)
DX.com mic's FTW! Hahahaha.
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http://www.lowyat.net/2014/06/e3-2014-stee...inated-plumbob/

Is that possible Steelseries brand gaming headset selling at that price?

RM120-130 converted to MYR. mcm cheap eh
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QUOTE(Powet @ Jun 11 2014, 10:51 PM)
http://www.lowyat.net/2014/06/e3-2014-stee...inated-plumbob/

Is that possible Steelseries brand gaming headset selling at that price?

RM120-130 converted to MYR. mcm cheap eh
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Well it's just s product made under agreement so the quality might be questionable..I gotta say it makes a nice present for my wife though..she loved the sims biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 11 2014, 11:06 PM)
Well it's just s product made under agreement so the quality might be questionable..I gotta say it makes a nice present for my wife though..she loved the sims  biggrin.gif
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How come I don't get a present hahahah.
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Hi guys, initially want to buy tiamat 7.1 gaming headset but after read review here it seem like don't worth the price.

so with the tiamat 7.1 budget any good gaming headset can recommend me ?

thank you

guys how is sennheiser G4ME ONE headset?
any advise?
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 11 2014, 11:36 PM)
How come I don't get a present hahahah.
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Well....let's just say you don't do the stuff my wife does for me brows.gif

This thread abit quiet lately..no pic of the day ka..hehe
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 12 2014, 08:54 AM)
Well....let's just say you don't do the stuff my wife does for me  brows.gif
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Hahhahhaha wtf. Okaaaaaaaaaay.

QUOTE(hydelai @ Jun 12 2014, 04:44 AM)
Hi guys, initially want to buy tiamat 7.1 gaming headset but after read review here it seem like don't worth the price.

so with the tiamat 7.1 budget any good gaming headset can recommend me ?

thank you
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Logitech G930.
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duh... my Razer carcharias so tough... so may years already still going strong and never broke, give me no excuse to change a new one.

And yes, carcharias's sound quality not very good... sweat.gif

(I Was drooling for a newer and better one but feel bad to buy if current one not broken)
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QUOTE(hydelai @ Jun 12 2014, 06:56 PM)
guys how is sennheiser G4ME ONE headset?
any advise?
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Unless you can find it for cheap, it's a waste of money.

Buy a HD558 and get a lapel mic, not only it is cheaper but the G4ME ONE is basically a re-painted HD558 with slightly different materials.
Why pay the premium?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 12 2014, 11:09 PM)
Unless you can find it for cheap, it's a waste of money.

Buy a HD558 and get a lapel mic, not only it is cheaper but the G4ME ONE is basically a re-painted HD558 with slightly different materials.
Why pay the premium?
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Thanks for your advise.
But i do need the mic and don't wish to get another mic as i want my desk to be tidy ( don't wish to see so many wiring =.= )
How about the sound quality for G4ME ONE? if it didn't overprice?

guys any good sound card recommend to pair with headset?

sennheiser game zero
budget can go to rm700
usage movie game and some mp3

haha i didn't update my signature for very long.
the D2 i have is PCI version and my current rig don't have PCI slot, so my D2 can't use on my currrent computer.
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QUOTE(hydelai @ Jun 12 2014, 11:32 PM)
Thanks for your advise.
But i do need the mic and don't wish to get another mic as i want my desk to be tidy ( don't wish to see so many wiring =.= )
How about the sound quality for G4ME ONE? if it didn't overprice?
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Sounds exactly like a HD558 dude. Very versatile multi genre headset with nice soundstage and bass. But for under RM900 range lah. Any higher and further and it wil not be worth it anymore Like Ben said it's just a repainted version with a Mic. I bought a cheap $2USD Mic and stuck on my HD558. Lel.

QUOTE(hydelai @ Jun 15 2014, 05:39 PM)
guys any good sound card recommend to pair with headset?
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Budget? What headset are you using? Brand preferences?
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QUOTE(hydelai @ Jun 12 2014, 11:32 PM)
Thanks for your advise.
But i do need the mic and don't wish to get another mic as i want my desk to be tidy ( don't wish to see so many wiring =.= )
How about the sound quality for G4ME ONE? if it didn't overprice?
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It's a lapel mic not a desktop mic, which means you can just clip it to the HD558's cable and call it a day.

Don't you already have a Xonar D2 as stated in your sig? There's really no point in upgrading to any other soundcard. Your next real upgrade is to an external DAC+amp, but the G4ME Zero (HD558) doesn't scale well with much better sources either.

So yeah, you're pretty much done with your audio setup.

QUOTE(hydelai @ Jun 16 2014, 05:26 PM)
haha i didn't update my signature for very long.
the D2 i have is PCI version and my current rig don't have PCI slot, so my D2 can't use on my currrent computer.
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You can either go for a SBZ or a cheaper DGX. Either way as I said, the G4ME Zero doesn't scale well with plenty of amp power. Something moderate is pretty much as good as you can get out of it.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 17 2014, 03:40 PM)
You can either go for a SBZ or a cheaper DGX. Either way as I said, the G4ME Zero doesn't scale well with plenty of amp power. Something moderate is pretty much as good as you can get out of it.
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ok, thank you so much.

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No.

Sims 4 Steelseries headset > all xD


Gonna grab it when it's out ;_;

*Big fan of Sims*
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Anyone tried the razer surround software? I've tried using it just now but I am worried that it could damage headphones? I'm a newbie so I don't know what I'm doing.

Can equalizer software damage headphones and can any of the settings in general damage them?

I did try it out and they seemed ok. but haven't tried the surround software long enough to judge it properly.

Lan parties? That sounds funnn Thanks for the reply bl@ze

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QUOTE(pseudokorean @ Jun 19 2014, 07:30 PM)
Anyone tried the razer surround software? I've tried using it just now but I am worried that it could damage headphones? I'm a newbie so I don't know what I'm doing.

Can equalizer software damage headphones and can any of the settings in general damage them?

I did try it out and they seemed ok. but haven't tried the surround software long enough to judge it properly.
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I really doubt a software can damage headphones..unless you are feeding them too much power and volume too loud..
Anyway I wonder if this can be a good case to carry headphones..
Might be good for LAN parties maybe?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/monoprice-hard...nt%202014-06-19


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whoa, what kinda headset you're trying to bring to a LAN party?
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 20 2014, 10:10 AM)
I really doubt a software can damage headphones..unless you are feeding them too much power and volume too loud..
Anyway I wonder if this can be a good case to carry headphones..
Might be good for LAN parties maybe?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/monoprice-hard...nt%202014-06-19
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I use zis. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jun 20 2014, 02:54 PM)
whoa, what kinda headset you're trying to bring to a LAN party?
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End game rigs deserve end game monitors, keyboards and headphones. tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 20 2014, 02:57 PM)
End game rigs deserve end game monitors, keyboards and headphones.  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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Then get end game by waifu.

No no no. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 20 2014, 09:22 PM)
Then get end game by waifu.

No no no. shakehead.gif
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Buy waifu end game diamond ring also lah. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 20 2014, 09:44 PM)
Buy waifu end game diamond ring also lah.  tongue.gif
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I like your idea, lucky my wife doesn't. Otherwise no money for HE-560.
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you can buy that box from Midvalley, but the foam inside are custom made.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 20 2014, 02:03 PM)
I use zis.  brows.gif

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Wow did that case come with the headphone?
Mine came with a coffin kind of box but it's way too bulky for travel le...
Btw, my wife has been hinting for a bluetooth speaker. Can you guys recommend something with good quality as I might just hijack them to use for music or playing games when she's not around tongue.gif
Personally, I have a bias against anything bluetooth.. sweat.gif
Budget within 1k...
Or maybe bro Sentinel can recommend his speakers brows.gif

QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jun 23 2014, 07:27 AM)
you can buy that box from Midvalley, but the foam inside are custom made.
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Thanks for the info bro..just happens im going for a meeting there this Thursday. Will go take a look smile.gif
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Razer Kraken 7.1 gaming headset a?
Just changed couple of days ago from Asus ROG Vulcan ANC

lel
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 23 2014, 07:58 PM)
Also, been checking up on Kingston's HyperX Cloud... the price, wow. They're selling it in the US for a $100, that's stunning value.
If Kingston can bring this over here at a similar price point, I think we've gota budget winner here.
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seen these HyperX Cloud in Asashi and Viewnet for RM399

seems like OEM from Qpad QH-90 / Beyerdynamic?
anyone tested it already?
truly a value buy @ USD100 & comes with PS4 connectivity
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QUOTE(TrOwA008 @ Jun 23 2014, 11:00 AM)
seen these HyperX Cloud in Asashi and Viewnet for RM399

seems like OEM from Qpad QH-90 / Beyerdynamic?
anyone tested it already?
truly a value buy @ USD100 & comes with PS4 connectivity
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RM400 is a fair price, really. The Cloud/QH-90 is based on the MMX-300 which in turn is based on the DT770 Pro 80ohms. I have not tried the Cloud or QH-90, but I do have a DT770 and I'd say it is good for immersive gaming but lacks on competitive play. Imaging is good especially since it is a close-design headphone, but the bass can often times cloud over the mids too much and that will rob details which otherwise would be important in FPS games. Some EQing can help to tame the bass a little bit, but too much and it robs the signature of what the DT770 is known for — solid, immersive bass.

Also on further checking, the Cloud/QH-90 seems to be tuned for lower impedance as many Beyers in the DT series requires at least an amp to bring the most out of them (in typical Beyerdynamc form). So at least that's one good trait since majority of gamers still run their headsets off their front panel or from the back of the motherboard.

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Jun 23 2014, 08:57 AM)
Razer Kraken 7.1 gaming headset a?
Just changed couple of days ago from Asus ROG Vulcan ANC

lel
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Any headphones with an intergreated mic = headset.
Headphones without a mic = headphones.

So yes, the Kraken is a headset.
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 22 2014, 10:23 PM)
Wow did that case come with the headphone?
Mine came with a coffin kind of box but it's way too bulky for travel le...
Btw, my wife has been hinting for a bluetooth speaker. Can you guys recommend something with good quality as I might just hijack them to use for music or playing games when she's not around  tongue.gif
Personally, I have a bias against anything bluetooth.. sweat.gif
Budget within 1k...
Or maybe bro Sentinel can recommend his speakers  brows.gif
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Yeah ordered together, but as the guy said can be bought at Pelican MV.

As for Bluetooth, i only have TDK ones that fit your description and price. Haha.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 23 2014, 05:13 PM)
Yeah ordered together, but as the guy said can be bought at Pelican MV.

As for Bluetooth, i only have TDK ones that fit your description and price. Haha.
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How about if we remove the bluetooth requirements brows.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 23 2014, 06:46 PM)
How about if we remove the bluetooth requirements  brows.gif
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Where got such thing one. Hahaha. You either get standalone speakers which is usually a single unit with bluetooth/Wifi capabilities, or you get a full blown CD/AMP/DAC/Speaker set. Hahaha. And the latter is definitely not within budget.

Get a full set from me lah. I got NAD Players and amps going for 40% off man.


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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 23 2014, 06:53 PM)
Where got such thing one. Hahaha. You either get standalone speakers which is usually a single unit with bluetooth/Wifi capabilities, or you get a full blown CD/AMP/DAC/Speaker set. Hahaha. And the latter is definitely not within budget.

Get a full set from me lah. I got NAD Players and amps going for 40% off man.
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When I'm richer with a bigger house and have my own man-cave I plan to get one full surround hehe...for now I have to 'settle' for my headphone for gaming..
Cant have the room shaking with explosion when wife sleeping in same room le... cry.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 23 2014, 07:12 PM)
When I'm richer with a bigger house and have my own man-cave I plan to get one full surround hehe...for now I have to 'settle' for my headphone for gaming..
Cant have the room shaking with explosion when wife sleeping in same room le... cry.gif
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Can buy quad 290 and HD800. How much more richer you want. HAHAHAHA.

Can put in Living Room what. As most people do.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jun 23 2014, 07:53 PM)
Can buy quad 290 and HD800. How much more richer you want. HAHAHAHA.

Can put in Living Room what. As most people do.
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Haha yea I'm more than happy with what I'm getting this year biggrin.gif
But my living room I don't want put my rig coz when kids come over they will play with it..imagine people touching and playing with your waifu..
Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu cry.gif
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 23 2014, 09:41 PM)
Haha yea I'm more than happy with what I'm getting this year  biggrin.gif
But my living room I don't want put my rig coz when kids come over they will play with it..imagine people touching and playing with your waifu..
Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu  cry.gif
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=____= Okaaaaaaaaay. Put a no touch zone around it. HAHAHA.
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Would you guys recommend the siberia v2?
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Would you guys recommend the siberia v2?
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If you can find it for around RM300 or less, then yes. Any higher, no.

FYI, the Superlux HD681 Evo has quite a similar sound signature to the Siberia V2 with slightly lesser body in the bass, however it is less than half the price.

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from superlux lineup, which are suitable for gaming? need powerful bass to immerse in there.. haha.. should be around rm150..
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Build a smaller room on the highest floor of your house... HD projector for your PC and every other mobile device... then 7.1 SURROUND SOUND.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 27 2014, 04:33 PM)
If you can find it for around RM300 or less, then yes. Any higher, no.

FYI, the Superlux HD681 Evo has quite a similar sound signature to the Siberia V2 with slightly lesser body in the bass, however it is less than half the price.
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Do you guys have recommendation for wireless headset?
budget around rm500
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 12 2014, 05:25 PM)
Uuuuuh guys, I posted a pretty detailed explanation on the third post of this thread. But I'll post it here anyways.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


TL;DR Version.

Low - Bass. Drums. Kickdrums. EDM. Anything that packs a solid low end punch. Best versions of bass is those where it's solid and tight. A controlled thump, rather than a loose boom you hear in that of Beats headsets.
Mids - Vocals. Musical instruments of the mellow kind like guitars or pianos. Supposed to be lush and mellow. Like a buttery feeling when you listen to it.
Highs - Treble. Also musical instruments but generally more sharper ones like snares, cymbals. Lousy treble control usually ends with highly annoying Sharp hisses.

Some people prefer bass. Some likes treble, especially gamers.
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The TL;DR version is helpful. Why don't you include that as well? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(azim8 @ Jul 3 2014, 07:22 AM)
Do you guys have recommendation for wireless headset?
budget around rm500
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Erm, without Mic i'd go for the Sennheiser RS160. With Mic i'd go for the Skullcandy PLYR 1.

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The TL;DR version is helpful. Why don't you include that as well?  icon_idea.gif
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sweat.gif Whoops, my bad. Will do.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jul 3 2014, 05:32 PM)

sweat.gif Whoops, my bad. Will do.
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No need to feel so bad. Just thinking it's good for layman people ( like me ) to understand better.
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Do your know seller that sell skullcandy product?
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Skullcandy like hear before oni wan O.o

Is it those fashion brands like Monster?

Monster head/earphones are actually not bad, very very nicely balanced feeling... just that because of that sound, no one should ever pay above RM100 for it lol rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(PfftClock @ Jul 3 2014, 06:37 PM)
No need to feel so bad. Just thinking it's good for layman people ( like me ) to understand better.
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Already edited. Hopefully it'll be a good help for everyone. rclxms.gif

Planning to get a nice gaming headset too? brows.gif

QUOTE(azim8 @ Jul 3 2014, 07:17 PM)
Do your know seller that sell skullcandy product?
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I know locally it'll be next to impossible. So you'll have to import from sites like Newegg or Amazon.

QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 3 2014, 09:38 PM)
Skullcandy like hear before oni wan O.o
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Roxy and Quicksilver stores do sell some models locally. But it's quite famous internationally.
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 4 2014, 10:09 AM)
Is it those fashion brands like Monster?

Monster head/earphones are actually not bad, very very nicely balanced feeling... just that because of that sound, no one should ever pay above RM100 for it lol  rclxms.gif
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Hmm... most gaming headsets are over RM100 though lolz, did you manage to get decent ones that are below the Rm100 price point?
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Well, speaking of Monster... I had a brief listen to the Monster DNA Pro a couple of weeks ago and to be honest, it's surprisingly good... like, VERY GOOD.
Too bad it isn't officialy sold in Malaysia (US Best Buy exclusive infact), otherwise for those with very deep pockets... I can certainly almost recommend it for someone looking at a closed headphone.

To sum it up, the DNA Pro is quite energetic in its presentation, a fun sounding headphone with well controlled bass (quality, not quantity) and surprisingly the mids are equally defined and never really felt lacking in relative sense to other closed-back headphones. Slightly tame on the treble though, it's got some sparkle but not enough extension IMO.

Soundstage is fantastic for a closed-back headphone, it's remarkably close to the Fostex TH-600 in fact except with a more inconsistent imaging/positional accuracy.


So, yeah... I didn't really expect Monster to ever make good headphones but credit where credit is due, the DNA Pro is VERY GOOD. It's $280 right now, but Best Buy loves throwing their prices around during the Nov/Dec months. If it gets down to the $200 range, I might actually pick it up.
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jul 4 2014, 12:38 PM)
Hmm... most gaming headsets are over RM100 though lolz, did you manage to get decent ones that are below the Rm100 price point?
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Gaming brand ones such as the Roccat Vire and CMStorm Pitch is RM99 each, with cases, extra cables and in-line microphones --I think these are very good budget buys even those who don't play games though, cheap and durable --sound I'm not sure la, but I'm expecting acceptable range.


And on Monster --yeah, they do make nice audio, but the price I feel tak betol lahhh tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 4 2014, 03:36 PM)
Gaming brand ones such as the Roccat Vire and CMStorm Pitch is RM99 each, with cases, extra cables and in-line microphones --I think these are very good budget buys even those who don't play games though, cheap and durable --sound I'm not sure la, but I'm expecting acceptable range.
And on Monster --yeah, they do make nice audio, but the price I feel tak betol lahhh  tongue.gif
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Haven't tested the Vire or the Pitch yet but these should suffice for gamers on the go.. usually when sitting in front of the desk, most would probably prefer a proper headset

Currently testing something new from CM on the same category but the targeted audience should be the same
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jul 4 2014, 03:55 PM)
Haven't tested the Vire or the Pitch yet but these should suffice for gamers on the go.. usually when sitting in front of the desk, most would probably prefer a proper headset

Currently testing something new from CM on the same category but the targeted audience should be the same
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The Resonar? blink.gif
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 4 2014, 10:09 AM)
Is it those fashion brands like Monster?

Monster head/earphones are actually not bad, very very nicely balanced feeling... just that because of that sound, no one should ever pay above RM100 for it lol  rclxms.gif
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tongue.gif laugh.gif

"Gaming" Headsets from Razer and Astro don't fare that well either in the price/performance ratio department anyhow too. Haha.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 4 2014, 02:33 PM)
Well, speaking of Monster... I had a brief listen to the Monster DNA Pro a couple of weeks ago and to be honest, it's surprisingly good... like, VERY GOOD.
Too bad it isn't officialy sold in Malaysia (US Best Buy exclusive infact), otherwise for those with very deep pockets... I can certainly almost recommend it for someone looking at a closed headphone.

To sum it up, the DNA Pro is quite energetic in its presentation, a fun sounding headphone with well controlled bass (quality, not quantity) and surprisingly the mids are equally defined and never really felt lacking in relative sense to other closed-back headphones. Slightly tame on the treble though, it's got some sparkle but not enough extension IMO.

Soundstage is fantastic for a closed-back headphone, it's remarkably close to the Fostex TH-600 in fact except with a more inconsistent imaging/positional accuracy.
So, yeah... I didn't really expect Monster to ever make good headphones but credit where credit is due, the DNA Pro is VERY GOOD. It's $280 right now, but Best Buy loves throwing their prices around during the Nov/Dec months. If it gets down to the $200 range, I might actually pick it up.
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Monster themselves are actually decent. It's the Beats line that gets on my nerves. But now they've split up and Apple bought the Beats brand. Sucks no one is bringing in the other models in the monster line up.

QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jul 4 2014, 03:55 PM)
Haven't tested the Vire or the Pitch yet but these should suffice for gamers on the go.. usually when sitting in front of the desk, most would probably prefer a proper headset

Currently testing something new from CM on the same category but the targeted audience should be the same
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Share share reviews sini. rclxms.gif

Anybody here uses Turtle Beach or Audio Technica gaming headsets?

Really wanna see how those perform.
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Anybody here uses Turtle Beach or Audio Technica gaming headsets?

Really wanna see how those perform.
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Do you mean the new Audio Technica ATH-AG1? Don't think it has been released in MY yet. But its expensive.

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Jul 5 2014, 03:51 PM)
Do you mean the new Audio Technica ATH-AG1? Don't think it has been released in MY yet. But its expensive.
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Yup, That's why i wanna know how it performs hahaha.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:42 PM)
Anybody here uses Turtle Beach or Audio Technica gaming headsets?

Really wanna see how those perform.
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Previously tested quite a few TB headsets, but stopped at the PX5/XP500. Which one you want to know about?


QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jul 5 2014, 06:08 PM)
Yup, That's why i wanna know how it performs hahaha.
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It's an AD700x with an intergrated mic, severely overpriced. But that means godlike tier soundstage.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 6 2014, 12:02 AM)
Previously tested quite a few TB headsets, but stopped at the PX5/XP500. Which one you want to know about?
It's an AD700x with an intergrated mic, severely overpriced. But that means godlike tier soundstage.
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I was wondering how they could justify USD300 for a AD700 or A700 with a mic. Some said it was based on AD900 instead which price would make better sense but if it is based on AD700, then its a rip-off. I mean I'm using the A700 and its great, but I wouldn't pay USD300 for it to come with a mic, regardless how good the mic is.
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Yikes, AD700 @ $300. sweat.gif
Was hoping it'll be like a AD900 but haven't heard it either so can't say.

Anyways SSJBen i wanna know about headsets like the EarForce Z7, EarForce XP7, Z300 or even EarForce Bravo.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Jul 6 2014, 08:55 AM)
I was wondering how they could justify USD300 for a AD700 or A700 with a mic. Some said it was based on AD900 instead which price would make better sense but if it is based on AD700, then its a rip-off. I mean I'm using the A700 and its great, but I wouldn't pay USD300 for it to come with a mic, regardless how good the mic is.
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The last time I heard it, it reminded me of the AD700 more than the AD900 though. There's that very neutral, dry sounding, no bass sort of signature which is akin to the AD700. The AD900 has a little more low-end, eventhough it is still quite dry overall.

That indeed is true though, $300 is just nuts. $150 and it'd be a no brainer for pure competitive use, because seriously... that soundstage is something not many headphones can beat.


QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jul 6 2014, 02:27 PM)
Yikes, AD700 @ $300. sweat.gif
Was hoping it'll be like a AD900 but haven't heard it either so can't say.

Anyways SSJBen i wanna know about headsets like the EarForce Z7, EarForce XP7, Z300 or even EarForce Bravo.
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Haven't heard the Z7/XP7. so no comment on that.

The Z300 is basically a PX4 but for PC use only. For a wireless headset, the closest I'd compare it to is the Plyr1 since they are similar in price. The Z300 has a lot of body in the bass, bloaty but immersive and for the most part, quite fun. The mids are not at all detailed by any means, in fact sounds quite recessed at times, however I like the fact that it is actually pushed back since up-front mids in a closed headset would sound quite fatiguing.
Nothing much to say about energy at the treble though, I find it inconsistent as sometimes it can be harsh and sometimes it lacks sparkle and extension. It's like the Z300 doesn't know what to do when say a window shatters in a game, either for it to pierce or sound muffled.

The Z300 does come with Dolby Headphone, which I do like and for the most part it does pair well with it. It takes the bloaty bass away by quite a significant margin, but remains impactful enough not to lose the immersiveness.

So is it worth the price? Probably a little steep to be quite honest. The Plyr1 is much more balanced than the Z300 and I think is fit for more an all-rounder usage, at least more so than the Z300. Also, if any indication is correct... the Z300 breaks a lot according to many user reviews too... which I do think there is a certain degree of truth in.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 6 2014, 03:26 PM)
The last time I heard it, it reminded me of the AD700 more than the AD900 though. There's that very neutral, dry sounding, no bass sort of signature which is akin to the AD700. The AD900 has a little more low-end, eventhough it is still quite dry overall.

That indeed is true though, $300 is just nuts. $150 and it'd be a no brainer for pure competitive use, because seriously... that soundstage is something not many headphones can beat.
Still waiting for more reviews and thoughts about it. But prices like this will turn off most people or maybe that was their plan...

Either way, I considered it and will probably buy if it ever go below USD175 maybe during a sale or whatever. Unless there is a credible proof that it is actually a A900 in disguise, the AG1 is not worth the cash.
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Anyone here owns Logitech g430?

I heard that it's not so comfortable.

Mind to give some opinions? Thanks.
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Which is why I don't like this practice done by audiophile companies.

Sennheiser is doing it with their G4ME series headsets (which are rebranded HD55x headphones), Beyer is doing it with the MMX300 (which is a DT770 slapped on with a mic), then of course we have Audio Technica doing it too.
AKG was doing it several years ago as well, but it never really took off... thankfully.

It's almost as if these audiophile companies are taking advantage of the majority gamers who doesn't know jack about audio, get them to pay more simply because of the brand. The same way where gaming companies are plastering the fact that "gaming" headsets are best for gaming, which isn't true.

Sure, Sennheiser, AT, Beyer and who-ever else needs to price their gaming headsets higher due to increased marketing cost, the mic (of which all of them are very good on), the re-packaging and licks of new paint. But to price them TWICE the price of their original counterparts? That's nuts.

QUOTE(Songchien @ Jul 8 2014, 07:43 AM)
Anyone here owns Logitech g430?

I heard that it's not so comfortable.

Mind to give some opinions? Thanks.
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They are a little bit stiff and needs a little bit of stretch break in for the clamping pressure to go away. Also, the headband and earpads needs to be given time to get soft as well, so yeah out of the box they can be rather uncomfortable especially if you have a big head.
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most of gaming headset are overprice.buy CM ceres 300 for rm88.its have good review from this can.
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 4 2014, 04:02 PM)
The Resonar?  blink.gif
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haha sorry can't reply that time tongue.gif

Yes, it's the Resonar

http://www.tech-critter.com/2014/07/unboxi...nar-gaming.html

QUOTE(wira_laju @ Jul 9 2014, 06:14 AM)
most of gaming headset are overprice.buy CM ceres 300 for rm88.its have good review from this can.
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Any links for this one?
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jul 11 2014, 10:55 AM)
Any links for this one?
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Clem, when you do these reviews you should invite some of us to test also to get opinons brows.gif brows.gif *trying to get in to listen more audio gear* whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

EDIT: Saw the review of the Roccat Syva --really disappointed with the lack of case and surprisingly lacking audio quality, I had high expectations for that one.

I never used any other Roccat products before except the Arvo keyboard and the Apuri mouse bungee. Wanted to try out the Syva, but after Clem's review, better stay away haha!

@Sentinel92 add Steelseries Flux into the front page list for me biggrin.gif

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@Clem, ever thought of using the Syva with an amplifier? It's impedance is pretty high for some gaming brand headset at 32 ohm

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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 11 2014, 10:40 PM)
Clem, when you do these reviews you should invite some of us to test also to get opinons  brows.gif  brows.gif  *trying to get in to listen more audio gear*  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

EDIT: Saw the review of the Roccat Syva --really disappointed with the lack of case and surprisingly lacking audio quality, I had high expectations for that one.
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lol I can try but this one was on NDA so no can do
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 11 2014, 10:40 PM)
Clem, when you do these reviews you should invite some of us to test also to get opinons  brows.gif  brows.gif  *trying to get in to listen more audio gear*  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

EDIT: Saw the review of the Roccat Syva --really disappointed with the lack of case and surprisingly lacking audio quality, I had high expectations for that one.
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As a previous owner of Roccat Kave I gotta say their gear looks nice but can't match true audio companies. The Kave for example had this really annoying rattling whenever I heard explosions..and I had it since Day 1. Couldn't be bothered to RMA it lol..I got it as a wedding gift anyways. tongue.gif
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hi guys. newbie here. wanna ask your expert opinions
thinking of buying Razer Kraken 7.1.
I saw in store that it is currently priced at RM300++
is it worth the price?
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The Kave was the most uncomfortable headset I've ever had. Gave me migrains after 20 minutes of usage, granted I do like its immersive bass but it lacks in every other department.

Also because it is a "5.1" headset, quality is just terrible.

QUOTE(slydejinx @ Jul 15 2014, 11:26 AM)
hi guys. newbie here. wanna ask your expert opinions
thinking of buying Razer Kraken 7.1.
I saw in store that it is currently priced at RM300++
is it worth the price?
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No. Stay away from "5.1/7.1/mult-driver" headsets. Garbage quality.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 15 2014, 06:20 PM)
No. Stay away from "5.1/7.1/mult-driver" headsets. Garbage quality.
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I second this opinion. Stay away from 5.1/7.1 gimmick.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 15 2014, 06:20 PM)
No. Stay away from "5.1/7.1/mult-driver" headsets. Garbage quality.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Jul 15 2014, 09:35 PM)
I second this opinion. Stay away from 5.1/7.1 gimmick.
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bad quality eh? thanks for the advise.
i also had a look at Logitech G930.
The price is much higher but people say the quality is quite good
i thought i saw somebody in this thread recommend it but i cannot remember tongue.gif
what do you guys say?
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Guys, i really wanna know.

What's the best gaming headset for now?
-I want a good bass and treble sound
-really good in both gaming and music
-all kind of music genre eg hiphop, pop, rock, etc

Price tange - RM300>RM999

I do check, Astro A40. Is it good? Any other model to recommend?
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I wouldn't say stay away, personally have used two forms of virtual surround sound: Logitech G430 and Razer's Surround Software.
I would say they're not.. "real" sound?

They definitely seem to make audio more "surround" and "immersive", but only if the game you're playing on has 5.1/7.1 support, else it gets very hollow and bad.
I tried both the surrounds on L4D2 and some movies with 5.1 audio and I can tell you, the soundstage felt wider and I felt more directions from all over the place. (But take note, Logitech's virtual surround > Razer's 20/10 times lol)

Some might argue that it's too small a space for any "surround" sound, but in the end it entirely depends on yourself also la.

In my opinion:
Unless you got the extra money for some tech swag, don't get a dedicated "surround" sound headset, just buy a normal good headset, then you can go spend an extra RM50 getting something like the Soundblaster Go's USB soundcard to try out the virtual 5.1 or just go and download Razer's surround software (if it's still free) or whatever that's similar with your stereo headset. Should work the same way smile.gif


My post so panjang, sorry ar paiseh >_<

Wah, your budget big you should go for other audio brands edi, don't need look at Astro tongue.gif

Is a built in microphone important to you or you don't mind having a separate microphone?
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 16 2014, 07:08 AM)
Guys, i really wanna know.

What's the best gaming headset for now?
-I want a good bass and treble sound
-really good in both gaming and music
-all kind of music genre eg hiphop, pop, rock, etc

Price tange - RM300>RM999

I do check, Astro A40. Is it good? Any other model to recommend?
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Sounds to me you're looking for a V-shaped in sound signature.
I'd suggest a Beyerdynamic DT990 or Hifiman HE-400, but it would be over budget for you.

So the next best thing inline would be the DT770 Pro from Beyerdynamic. Now, to get the DT770 Pro may actually be quite expensive. Instead, look for the Kingston HyperX Cloud which is basically a modified DT770Pro with a mic jack. Price is around RM400+.

Otherwise, if you're looking for an open headphone with prominent bass, the AKG K612 Pro and Philips Fidelio X1 is the route to go.
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QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 16 2014, 12:13 AM)
I wouldn't say stay away, personally have used two forms of virtual surround sound: Logitech G430 and Razer's Surround Software.
I would say they're not.. "real" sound?

They definitely seem to make audio more "surround" and "immersive", but only if the game you're playing on has 5.1/7.1 support, else it gets very hollow and bad.
I tried both the surrounds on L4D2 and some movies with 5.1 audio and I can tell you, the soundstage felt wider and I felt more directions from all over the place. (But take note, Logitech's virtual surround > Razer's 20/10 times lol)

Some might argue that it's too small a space for any "surround" sound, but in the end it entirely depends on yourself also la.

In my opinion:
Unless you got the extra money for some tech swag, don't get a dedicated "surround" sound headset, just buy a normal good headset, then you can go spend an extra RM50 getting something like the Soundblaster Go's USB soundcard to try out the virtual 5.1 or just go and download Razer's surround software (if it's still free) or whatever that's similar with your stereo headset. Should work the same way smile.gif
My post so panjang, sorry ar paiseh >_<
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thanks for the advise. never knew about the Razer's surround software. biggrin.gif
i guess i just have to go find normal headset. what would your recommend for price around RM300-RM500. FYI, i play game alot.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 16 2014, 03:13 PM)
Sounds to me you're looking for a V-shaped in sound signature.
I'd suggest a Beyerdynamic DT990 or Hifiman HE-400, but it would be over budget for you.

So the next best thing inline would be the DT770 Pro from Beyerdynamic. Now, to get the DT770 Pro may actually be quite expensive. Instead, look for the Kingston HyperX Cloud which is basically a modified DT770Pro with a mic jack. Price is around RM400+.

Otherwise, if you're looking for an open headphone with prominent bass, the AKG K612 Pro and Philips Fidelio X1 is the route to go.
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I tried Audio Technica open headphone before, i forgot the name of the headset, but it is not a gaming headset.
the sound for bass for open headphone is not that good. (bass not till giving a small vibration)

Btw, now im using Roccat Kave 5.1 the old one, with an external amp. That gives so much bass.
So, for now, i wanna upgrade it. I dont wanna spend my much money but downgrade the sound.

So, does the kingston gives me good sound?

QUOTE(Helldiver @ Jul 16 2014, 02:29 PM)
Wah, your budget big you should go for other audio brands edi, don't need look at Astro tongue.gif

Is a built in microphone important to you or you don't mind having a separate microphone?
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I prefer with the mic, dont to mess up my table haha.

So, what brand? Audio technica? Senheiser? Bayern?

But i only can affor below rm1k. Mostly below RM999

So, any advice?
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 16 2014, 11:33 PM)
I tried Audio Technica open headphone before, i forgot the name of the headset, but it is not a gaming headset.
the sound for bass for open headphone is not that good. (bass not till giving a small vibration)

Btw, now im using Roccat Kave 5.1 the old one, with an external amp. That gives so much bass.
So, for now, i wanna upgrade it. I dont wanna spend my much money but downgrade the sound.

So, does the kingston gives me good sound?
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 16 2014, 11:38 PM)
I prefer with the mic, dont to mess up my table haha.

So, what brand? Audio technica? Senheiser? Bayern?

But i only can affor below rm1k. Mostly below RM999

So, any advice?
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Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro + Vmoda Boom Pro Mic. That's all you need.
Will not match the Kave in bass quantity, but WILL (I guarantee you) beat it in quality.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 16 2014, 11:47 PM)
Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro + Vmoda Boom Pro Mic. That's all you need.
Will not match the Kave in bass quantity, but WILL (I guarantee you) beat it in quality.
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So, if i put external amp, will it boost the bass and treble?
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So, if i put external amp, will it boost the bass and treble?
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Not by much. The COP is an efficient headphone, heavy amping doesn't benefit it significantly. There can be some improvement, but don't expect day and night difference.
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 16 2014, 11:33 PM)
I tried Audio Technica open headphone before, i forgot the name of the headset, but it is not a gaming headset.
the sound for bass for open headphone is not that good. (bass not till giving a small vibration)

Btw, now im using Roccat Kave 5.1 the old one, with an external amp. That gives so much bass.
So, for now, i wanna upgrade it. I dont wanna spend my much money but downgrade the sound.

So, does the kingston gives me good sound?
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Most open back headsets don't produce much bass. Especially Audio Technicas. Open back handsets usually trade bass and dynamics for massive soundstaging and airiness. Unless of course you buy an Audeze. That's a whole diff story.

Also, please note that more bass =\= Good sound.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 17 2014, 12:04 AM)
Not by much. The COP is an efficient headphone, heavy amping doesn't benefit it significantly. There can be some improvement, but don't expect day and night difference.
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Oh, so no need external amp.
Btw, what about ATH M-50 since u recommend me a normal pro audio headset?

So, why not ATH M-50?

slightly cheaper than COP. Right?

just google-d,

COP doesnt need AMP. The bass is higher compare M50.

Maybe i in love for COP. LOL

SSJBen?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 17 2014, 12:04 AM)
Not by much. The COP is an efficient headphone, heavy amping doesn't benefit it significantly. There can be some improvement, but don't expect day and night difference.
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The biggest opening of COP is bass overload for me. Or overlord. laugh.gif And I thought COP got mic separately. Or V-Moda mic is better?

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Jul 17 2014, 12:11 AM)
Most open back headsets don't produce much bass. Especially Audio Technicas. Open back handsets usually trade bass and dynamics for massive soundstaging and airiness. Unless  of course you buy an Audeze. That's a whole diff story.

Also, please note that more bass =\= Good sound.
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Sennheiser HD650 or Philips Fidelio X1?

COP over M-50 if you need mic. Obviously a win situation.
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 17 2014, 12:11 AM)
Oh, so no need external amp.
Btw, what about ATH M-50 since u recommend me a normal pro audio headset?
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The ATH-M50 is not considered a 'bassy' headphone. IMO it's rather bland in terms of bass.

Go with what SSJBen suggested if you're willing to spend RM999 for a headset.


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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jul 17 2014, 12:26 AM)
COP over M-50 if you need mic. Obviously a win situation.
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Yea, maybe COP is the right choice.

Since, COP is already done with everything, no need amp.

Btw, COP comes with mic?
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 17 2014, 12:28 AM)
Yea, maybe COP is the right choice.

Since, COP is already done with everything, no need amp.

Btw, COP comes with mic?
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Buy separately... But since I don't need a mic, I just use my Senn Amperior/ HD 600 for gaming. Well, that's before I decided to stop gaming. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 17 2014, 12:11 AM)
Oh, so no need external amp.
Btw, what about ATH M-50 since u recommend me a normal pro audio headset?
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The M50/M50x are quite neutral, more towards being analytical. There is some presence in the bass, but for your tastes, you'll be very dissapointed with it.


QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jul 17 2014, 12:13 AM)
The biggest opening of COP is bass overload for me. Or overlord. laugh.gif And I thought COP got mic separately. Or V-Moda mic is better?
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There's a mic by Beyer themselves, but they are freaking expensive! The V-moda is much cheaper (RM129 at Lazada!) and is just as good.


QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 17 2014, 12:28 AM)
Yea, maybe COP is the right choice.

Since, COP is already done with everything, no need amp.

Btw, COP comes with mic?
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No, you'll need a seperate mic.
Here - http://www.lazada.com.my/import-v-moda-boo...ack-522588.html

Both the mic and COP should be less than your RM1k budget.
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jul 17 2014, 12:32 AM)
Buy separately... But since I don't need a mic, I just use my Senn Amperior/ HD 600 for gaming. Well, that's before I decided to stop gaming. biggrin.gif
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So, any external mic with better choice than VModa? Good quality and cheaper than it

So sum up

COP : RM799 Lazada
VMODA MIC : RM129 Lazada

RM928 phew...
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 17 2014, 12:37 AM)
The M50/M50x are quite neutral, more towards being analytical. There is some presence in the bass, but for your tastes, you'll be very dissapointed with it.
There's a mic by Beyer themselves, but they are freaking expensive! The V-moda is much cheaper (RM129 at Lazada!) and is just as good.
No, you'll need a seperate mic.
Here - http://www.lazada.com.my/import-v-moda-boo...ack-522588.html

Both the mic and COP should be less than your RM1k budget.
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Wow. That's cheap. How much for COP one? Yeah, M50 is totally not suitable for gaming. My experience:

HD 600, they sound very wide. More 3d, and less fatiguing. Well, of course bass light compare to my Amperior.

Amperior, they sound more fun due to bass. Smaller soundstage and less 3d. However, still way better than M50 and COP to my ear. Unfortunately, it's underused.

QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 17 2014, 12:38 AM)
So, any external mic with better choice than VModa? Good quality and cheaper than it
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No idea at all boss. blush.gif

QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 17 2014, 01:03 AM)
So sum up

COP : RM799 Lazada
VMODA MIC : RM129 Lazada

RM928 phew...
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Well, if you don't need a headphone with mic, and okay with headphone and a desk mic, can check my siggy. But, if you think desk mic is troublesome just carry on with COP and a V-Moda mic.

But if I were you, I will go for that COP and V-Moda mic. Desk mic means more cable and I struggle to hide cable on my desk. Spend more and be satisfied.
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QUOTE(tWice @ Jul 17 2014, 12:38 AM)
So, any external mic with better choice than VModa? Good quality and cheaper than it
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Condenser mics. You don't need them.
The Vmoda boompro mic is pretty much the best mic you can get without paying more and have that ease of convenience that comes with a gaming headset.


QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jul 17 2014, 12:45 AM)
Wow. That's cheap. How much for COP one? Yeah, M50 is totally not suitable for gaming. My experience:

HD 600, they sound very wide. More 3d, and less fatiguing. Well, of course bass light compare to my Amperior.

Amperior, they sound more fun due to bass. Smaller soundstage and less 3d. However, still way better than M50 and COP to my ear. Unfortunately, it's underused.
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$60 - http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-COP-Hea...eyerdynamic+mic

+ Int. shipping.

Go figure. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 17 2014, 01:44 AM)
Condenser mics. You don't need them.
The Vmoda boompro mic is pretty much the best mic you can get without paying more and have that ease of convenience that comes with a gaming headset.
$60 - http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-COP-Hea...eyerdynamic+mic

+ Int. shipping.

Go figure. sweat.gif
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Just prepare RM 250 if buy thru agent. Beyer can with Beyer mic, not bad... But if it's me, I pick the cheapest. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jul 17 2014, 02:13 AM)
Just prepare RM 250 if buy thru agent. Beyer can with Beyer mic, not bad... But if it's me, I pick the cheapest. laugh.gif
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I'm really still using my $2 lapel mic from DX.com. I see no reason to get anything better... I mean, it's all trash talk and mindless nonsense during a MP session anyways.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 17 2014, 02:58 AM)
I'm really still using my $2 lapel mic from DX.com. I see no reason to get anything better... I mean, it's all trash talk and mindless nonsense during a MP session anyways.
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Maybe he wants to sing into his mic. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 17 2014, 02:58 AM)
I'm really still using my $2 lapel mic from DX.com. I see no reason to get anything better... I mean, it's all trash talk and mindless nonsense during a MP session anyways.
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I use my laptop mic and still my partner can hear me clearly in Dota 2. I think any proper desk mic or other kind of mic will do. I never have a romantic chat with team mate. tongue.gif
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guys...just wan to ask, i would like to buy a headset and plug in on my PS3 due to i play game at night, and dont wan disturb ppl sleeping..

budget around 150, what will be suggestion ?? some ppl already suggest me on superlux 668evo, and my buddy suggest on aerocool, 2.1 surrond...
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QUOTE(verdangilte @ Jul 19 2014, 05:28 PM)
guys...just wan to ask, i would like to buy a headset and plug in on my PS3 due to i play game at night, and dont wan disturb ppl sleeping..

budget around 150, what will be suggestion ?? some ppl already suggest me  on superlux 668evo, and my buddy suggest on aerocool, 2.1 surrond...
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You can and the Superlux 681 Evo is a great choice at the RM150 budget.

However understand that you need more than just the headset to use with a PS3. If you do the usual PS3 > HDMI > TV > headphones, this will work but don't expect any good audio quality from your games. Majority of DACs in TV these days are of very low in quality and is interfered by a lot of other parts in the TV. Part of the reason why so many people complain about why their headphones sound so bad is because they are not being connected to the right source.

You'd ideally want an extra external DAC (a cheap FiiO D03k for example) to at least alleniate these problems.

Oh wow... Monoprice, they completely ripped-off FiiO's E09k amp and made their own:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/monoprice-desk...nt%202014-07-21

The difference is that the Monoprice is actually an amp + DAC, where as the E09k is only an amp.
Components used are largely the same too! rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 19 2014, 10:44 PM)
You can and the Superlux 681 Evo is a great choice at the RM150 budget.

However understand that you need more than just the headset to use with a PS3. If you do the usual PS3 > HDMI > TV > headphones, this will work but don't expect any good audio quality from your games. Majority of DACs in TV these days are of very low in quality and is interfered by a lot of other parts in the TV. Part of the reason why so many people complain about why their headphones sound so bad is because they are not being connected to the right source.

You'd ideally want an extra external DAC (a cheap FiiO D03k for example) to at least alleniate these problems.
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which means actually its works. just dun expect too much on the effect..actually i do have a set of LG home theater..but its connect to my astro already..if i wan use it..i need plug it out...and its will very disturbing others ( i play game at night )
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hi.. i want ask storm sirus and siberia v2.. which one is better?
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QUOTE(sw1314 @ Jul 22 2014, 10:29 PM)
hi.. i want ask storm sirus and siberia v2.. which one is better?
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From my personal opinion,
storm sirus = good sound, better than siberia v2 but heavy
siberia v2 = good sound and super light
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Guys

Need your advice...do you guys know where to purchase this locally?

Turtle Beach Ear Force PS4 Chat Cable for PlayStation 4
http://www.turtlebeach.com/product-detail/...-chat-cable/464

Has anybody tried this cable for the razer chimaera 5.1 to enable chat for PS4?

Thanks!! smile.gif

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QUOTE(megaheart @ Jul 23 2014, 08:22 AM)
From my personal opinion,
storm sirus = good sound, better than siberia v2 but heavy
siberia v2 = good sound and super light
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thank.. besides, sirus s and sirus big different?
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Hey guys, so i just found that, Jaben is selling Custom One Pro for RM599 until the end of september. So i plan to buy it soon.

So before that, may know, is there any software to custom the equalizer to my headphone?

Just any software that can adjust bass and treble. kinda like that. GOT?
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Hi guys,

Thinking of getting the Razer Kraken that comes with 7.1 sound surround. Any comment on that? Thank you.

Edit: Just checked back some previous posts, it seems that it's better to stay away from 7.1 gimmick.



Any other suggestions? Thank you.

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QUOTE(tWice @ Aug 13 2014, 10:49 PM)
Hey guys, so i just found that, Jaben is selling Custom One Pro for RM599 until the end of september. So i plan to buy it soon.

So before that, may know, is there any software to custom the equalizer to my headphone?

Just any software that can adjust bass and treble. kinda like that. GOT?
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For music, yes. Many music players has a software-based EQ.
For other things, you can either use the Windows bass/treble controls (assuming you have one, not all sound drivers supports it) or you can download something like Razer Surround to use their pre-EQ settings.

Although honestly, I don't know why you'd need to adjust bass/treble through software when you can already adjust the bass ports on the COP.

QUOTE(EdwinCodec @ Aug 14 2014, 05:29 PM)
Hi guys,

Thinking of getting the Razer Kraken that comes with 7.1 sound surround. Any comment on that? Thank you.

Edit: Just checked back some previous posts, it seems that it's better to stay away from 7.1 gimmick.
Any other suggestions? Thank you.
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I'm pretty sure the Kraken 7.1 is basically the standard Kraken but comes bundled with Razer Surround Pro (which is a paid software now, instead of being free as before).
Razer Surround in my experience has been absolute crap. Rear cues are nearly non-existant or worse still, wrongly implemented.

So if you do want the Kraken, just get the standard one (which is cheaper) and get DH or SBX as your virtual surround driver.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 14 2014, 06:11 PM)
I'm pretty sure the Kraken 7.1 is basically the standard Kraken but comes bundled with Razer Surround Pro (which is a paid software now, instead of being free as before).
Razer Surround in my experience has been absolute crap. Rear cues are nearly non-existant or worse still, wrongly implemented.

So if you do want the Kraken, just get the standard one (which is cheaper) and get DH or SBX as your virtual surround driver.
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Wow. Thanks for the information. I think i shall go for other choices. Any recommendations? Not so expensive larh tongue.gif

Budget about Rm400
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what is the best bang for the buck superlux headphone. all product is cheap

EDIT : Using ss siberia v2 now. want something that's better than this 1.

QUOTE(Helldiver @ Apr 27 2014, 12:48 PM)
Nah, drillz of my Hammerhead Pro

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tongue.gif I wan show off mainstream sikit  tongue.gif

And just a short description of the sound:

Music wise: Best way to describe it is that it gives a very warm tone over less BASS-DROP-DESTROY-SHATTER-YOUR-BONES songs, such as vocal-focused songs or ballads; I find it works very well with jazz music, good bass and warm highs and mids. If you listen to EDMs or those very bass heavy songs, prepare Panadol  rclxub.gif

Game wise: Soundstage is pretty good to me, (tested with Sudden Attack (free MMOFPS), L4D2 (haven't tried with Razer's Surround Sound software yet) and Bioshock Infinite) I can tell where everything is very well, footsteps, drops, bombs, weapon changing of my opponents, their reloads. For something so small the soundstage is quite impressive rclxms.gif Explosions and all that effects and dialogues also sound very nice on the Hammerhead Pro, as what you would expect: the bass really kicks in the BOOOOOOOOOOOOMS  flex.gif

The microphone also works pretty well, but sometimes I make phone calls with my phone people can't hear me quite well; Skype works flawlessly though.

I find its much better sounding that other Razer headphones like the Kraken or Electra.  smile.gif
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u duwan sell ah urs ? haha i want to buy one also. review said that it is good with bass but not the kinda vocal thing

if i have to choose between ATH-M50 and ATH-IM50, which one should i pick ? want more bass, my budget around rm 350 if u want to suggest other

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 14 2014, 02:17 PM)
For music, yes. Many music players has a software-based EQ.
For other things, you can either use the Windows bass/treble controls (assuming you have one, not all sound drivers supports it) or you can download something like Razer Surround to use their pre-EQ settings.

Although honestly, I don't know why you'd need to adjust bass/treble through software when you can already adjust the bass ports on the COP.
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Just in case hahaha.
Btw, so COP will give me the best performance in GAMING, MOVIE and MUSIC ? Genre: hiphop music, dubstep, not to forget the clearity of the music !
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QUOTE(EdwinCodec @ Aug 14 2014, 06:54 PM)
Wow. Thanks for the information. I think i shall go for other choices. Any recommendations? Not so expensive larh  tongue.gif

Budget about Rm400
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Is a built-in mic absolutely necessasary? If so, the Logitech G230 isn't too bad. RM200 only, spend the rest on a soundcard which provides Dolby Headphone (Asus DGX is RM150).
The G430 on the other hand is a little more expensive, does come DH but downside is that it is through an external USB in-line adapater.

Otherwise, if built-in mic isn't very important, my usual recommendation is the Creative Aurvana Live, which is priced at RM400 (or less). The CAL2 which is RM450 seems to be a very good replacement to the original CAL though, which does come with an in-line mic. I have not heard the CAL2, but there's a forumer here who has one. Ask him for more info. smile.gif

QUOTE(tWice @ Aug 16 2014, 10:04 PM)
Just in case hahaha.
Btw, so COP will give me the best performance in GAMING, MOVIE and MUSIC ? Genre: hiphop music, dubstep, not to forget the clearity of the music !
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You must understand this very important thing, unlike graphics cards or CPUs, there is no such thing as BEST in audio, anyone who told you so is bullsh~ting.

The COP is a very well suited headphone for bass heavy music, this I can say with confidence. But the best in it? Definitely not. There are bassheads who would prefer something even more (as much bass as the likes of a Sony XB700) for dubsteps. Are you that kind of person?

Interms of gaming, I've found the COP to be enjoyable throughout a variety of games. Single player, immersive games with rich stories, yeah the COP provides enough enjoyment without sounding weak or out of place. Similarly, adjusting the bass ports gave good positional cues in competitive FPS games, although I've found the soundstage quite narrow, but this is only because I'm more of an open-headphones kind of guy.

Then it comes to movies, similar to music, there's just too many genres in movies to say a single headphone would be the best in all of them. No logic.
The COP to me was enjoyable in action movies, but I didn't like it with dramas or animes. This is because the soundstage was just too narrow for me and the heavy dialog is just too fatiguing to my ears.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 16 2014, 11:16 PM)
You must understand this very important thing, unlike graphics cards or CPUs, there is no such thing as BEST in audio, anyone who told you so is bullsh~ting.

The COP is a very well suited headphone for bass heavy music, this I can say with confidence. But the best in it? Definitely not. There are bassheads who would prefer something even more (as much bass as the likes of a Sony XB700) for dubsteps. Are you that kind of person?

Interms of gaming, I've found the COP to be enjoyable throughout a variety of games. Single player, immersive games with rich stories, yeah the COP provides enough enjoyment without sounding weak or out of place. Similarly,  adjusting the bass ports gave good positional cues in competitive FPS games, although I've found the soundstage quite narrow, but this is only because I'm more of an open-headphones kind of guy.

Then it comes to movies, similar to music, there's just too many genres in movies to say a single headphone would be the best in all of them. No logic.
The COP to me was enjoyable in action movies, but I didn't like it with dramas or animes. This is because the soundstage was just too narrow for me and the heavy dialog is just too fatiguing to my ears.
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Haha thanks. I mainly use for music. I like the boom bass while not to forget the treble. The clarity is a must since i also an audiophile headphone user b4. But i ask for gaming since i play dota2 a lot, and im gonna use vmoda mic and make it as my gaming headset too. The main thing is, music while im studying. I really wanna hear good sound. I dont like messy sound. Also i also love to watch action movies.

So COP can gimme the full of experience for that? smile.gif

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QUOTE(tWice @ Aug 16 2014, 11:53 PM)
Haha thanks. I mainly use for music. I like the boom bass while not to forget the treble. The clarity is a must since i also an audiophile headphone user b4. But i ask for gaming since i play dota2 a lot, and im gonna use vmoda mic and make it as my gaming headset too. The main thing is, music while im studying. I really wanna hear good sound. I dont like messy sound. Also i also love to watch action movies.

So COP can gimme the full of experience for that? smile.gif
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Yes, certainly.

The COP doesn't feel as engergetic up top though. Clarity, it's there definitely. Instrument seperation is good despite the narrow soundstage.
So yeah the COP is a indeed a good headphone for you, since the mic is important too.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 17 2014, 12:01 AM)
Yes, certainly.

The COP doesn't feel as engergetic up top though. Clarity, it's there definitely. Instrument seperation is good despite the narrow soundstage.
So yeah the COP is a indeed a good headphone for you, since the mic is important too.
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Btw, my friend just had atm m50. Im gonna try it soon. I read many of reviews said, m50 will be sound likely to COP when COP set to 1 and a half of the bass setting (bass toggle). But, the clearity is slightly better at M50. Is it true?
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QUOTE(tWice @ Aug 17 2014, 12:38 AM)
Btw, my friend just had atm m50. Im gonna try it soon. I read many of reviews said, m50 will be sound likely to COP when COP set to 1 and a half of the bass setting (bass toggle). But, the clearity is slightly better at M50. Is it true?
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The M50 is a brighter sounding headphone than the COP, the mids are also more prominent. So in that sense of "clarity" (a very vague term), yes the M50 is better than the COP. The COP however does beat the M50 in the bottom end.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 17 2014, 12:55 AM)
The M50 is a brighter sounding headphone than the COP, the mids are also more prominent. So in that sense of "clarity" (a very vague term), yes the M50 is better than the COP. The COP however does beat the M50 in the bottom end.
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Wew, words are hard to describe sound. Gonna try it soon.
But seems rm599 COP while the retail is Rm799. Why not go for it and the cable can be change with the mic. Hmmm. Should give it a try first haha

Thx Lord_darkside and SJben.
Both of u just made my mind up smile.gif
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QUOTE(tWice @ Aug 17 2014, 01:00 AM)
Wew, words are hard to describe sound. Gonna try it soon.
But seems rm599 COP while the retail is Rm799. Why not go for it and the cable can be change with the mic. Hmmm. Should give it a try first haha
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Out of 7 persons that I've personally recommended the COP to (this doesn't include forum posts), all 7 has bought them and every one of them hasn't been dissapointed.

Try it, don't like it then sell it. Great thing about mid-fi headphones is that it has good resale value.

Another great thing is that the COP doesn't require much amping, it sounds good off almost anything, even from tablets which often times has very poor power output on the headphone jack.

QUOTE(Wan.Him @ Aug 17 2014, 08:27 PM)
if i have to choose between ATH-M50 and ATH-IM50, which one should i pick  ? want more bass, my budget around rm 350 if u want to suggest other
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Uhm... they aren't actually comparable? One is headphone, the other is an IEM. Just the fit alone changes the sound entirely.

So the question you should ask yourself is, which do you prefer? IEM or headphone? Answer that and you'll have your decision. Not which is better.
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QUOTE(Wan.Him @ Aug 16 2014, 11:44 AM)
u duwan sell ah urs ? haha i want to buy one also. review said that it is good with bass but not the kinda vocal thing
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I happy happy using dont ask me sell tongue.gif Got extra attention when you use this summore rclxms.gif

COP is Custom One Pro is it?

If it is, I personally find it very muddy ._.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 17 2014, 01:33 AM)
Out of 7 persons that I've personally recommended the COP to (this doesn't include forum posts), all 7 has bought them and every one of them hasn't been dissapointed.

Try it, don't like it then sell it. Great thing about mid-fi headphones is that it has good resale value.
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i vouch SSJBen for that... my COP is the best wired headphone i had (had a few wired and wireless headset) ... great with PC games mainly i play BF4, Movies and music of my choice... now i take the COP everywhere...

in fact..sometimes i sacrifice the ease of wireless feature of my chimeara... and bring my COP for gaming session on the couch with my PS3....
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 17 2014, 09:58 PM)
Uhm... they aren't actually comparable? One is headphone, the other is an IEM. Just the fit alone changes the sound entirely.

So the question you should ask yourself is, which do you prefer? IEM or headphone? Answer that and you'll have your decision. Not which is better.
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i see so , if u which one that u will choose
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QUOTE(Wan.Him @ Aug 18 2014, 12:24 AM)
i see so , if u which one that u will choose
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It's best if you go try it yourself and find something you like brah.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Aug 18 2014, 01:40 AM)
It's best if you go try it yourself and find something you like brah.
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where to test audio technica product ? lol newb here

amp + dac to boost the bass ? budget around rm 350. using ath-m50
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want ask is ASUS ROG Orion Pro good for FPS gaming and chat?
so far i try find any virtual surround gaming headset that with red/back color and comfort to use
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QUOTE(Wan.Him @ Aug 18 2014, 12:24 AM)
i see so , if u which one that u will choose
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Neither. Didn't like the M50 nor the IM50.

QUOTE(Helldiver @ Aug 18 2014, 02:22 PM)
COP is Custom One Pro is it?

If it is, I personally find it very muddy ._.
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Adjust the bass port, change the earpads to velour, get a lower impedance cable (the stock is somewhat high at 1ohm~). But yeah generally, the COP's bass is quite akin to that of the DT770 Pro. Hard hitting, lots of immersiveness, which tends to be too overwhelming for competitive usage.

Good news for those who's always wanted the Superlux 681 EVO but hated the fact that it doesn't come with an intergrated mic.

Superlux WILL indeed be releasing a 681EVO with a mic, their first forray into the "gaming headset" category.
This is after countless feedback from gamers. Price is not set in stone yet, but expect it to be MSRP RM199.

Page to the HMC681EVO here - http://www.superlux.com.tw/productInfo.do?...d&level=2&lv0=5

QUOTE(heerosakura @ Aug 22 2014, 02:21 PM)
want ask is ASUS ROG Orion Pro good for FPS gaming and chat?
so far i try find any virtual surround gaming headset that with red/back color and comfort to use
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Haven't heard how well it sounds. But I do have a friend who uses it and through voice chat, it's decent. Clear enough, not much interference pick-up.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 22 2014, 03:00 PM)
Good news for those who's always wanted the Superlux 681 EVO but hated the fact that it doesn't come with an intergrated mic.

Superlux WILL indeed be releasing a 681EVO with a mic, their first forray into the "gaming headset" category.
This is after countless feedback from gamers. Price is not set in stone yet, but expect it to be MSRP RM199.

Page to the HMC681EVO here - http://www.superlux.com.tw/productInfo.do?...d&level=2&lv0=5
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f*** YES!

Been waiting for this line to come out for almost a year. Will PM the Superlux dealers bout this.


Edit:
Wait, is there a source of release? That page has not been updated for a while. I think for more than a year already the page is the same.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 22 2014, 03:01 PM)
Haven't heard how well it sounds. But I do have a friend who uses it and through voice chat, it's decent. Clear enough, not much interference pick-up.
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mainly want use it for FPS game smile.gif

So far i am using 3 sound device now tongue.gif .

1. logitech z103 speaker (present from fren so dont want change until broken)
2. ASUS Orion Pro (more on gaming and chat use)
3. Steelseries Siberia V1 (for watch movie and listen music, choice it bcos no need use mic tongue.gif )

i always use Soundswitch for easy change playback devices icon_rolleyes.gif .

btw i not really go too high end due i found my ear hard different the sound except the game only ohmy.gif
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hai

anyone can recommend me one good headset for FPS (CSGO)

main purpose (GAMING > movie> music(phone)
my rig normal rig using onboard soundcard(not 7.1, the one comes with motherboard)
budget Strictly below RM600.

would prefer surround sound, so i can location the direction of the incoming footstep

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hai

anyone can recommend me one good headset for FPS (CSGO)

main purpose (GAMING > movie> music(phone)
my rig normal rig using onboard soundcard(not 7.1, the one comes with motherboard)
budget Strictly below RM600.

would prefer surround sound, so i can location the direction of the incoming footstep
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Do you need a mic? If not, you can start looking for Audiophile headphones for gaming. A good stereo headphone is all you need. Not necessary for 7.1 etc.

For headphones below RM600, you can try the Audio Technica ATH-A700x.

Amazon selling Steelseries Siberia V2 cheapest I've seen. Only for the blue model.

http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Siberia-...ries+siberia+v2
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Sep 2 2014, 01:57 AM)
Do you need a mic? If not, you can start looking for Audiophile headphones for gaming. A good stereo headphone is all you need. Not necessary for 7.1 etc.

For headphones below RM600, you can try the Audio Technica ATH-A700x.
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i need a mic . i already have in ear ( earphone)
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Guys, im currently use Superlux HD681 EVO. But max i can use is 1hr and barely push to 1hr and half, then my i need to take out due to soreness at my ear. Is there any lighter/comfortable headset that i can use for let say 2hrs at least without need to endurance the pain? Lol. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Sep 2 2014, 04:33 PM)
Guys, im currently use Superlux HD681 EVO. But max i can use is 1hr and barely push to 1hr and half, then my i need to take out due to soreness at my ear. Is there any lighter/comfortable headset that i can use for let say 2hrs at least without need to endurance the pain? Lol.  sweat.gif

Thanks.
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the evo is a pretty lightweight hp
hv u changed to the velour pads?
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QUOTE(creative zn @ Sep 2 2014, 04:33 PM)
Guys, im currently use Superlux HD681 EVO. But max i can use is 1hr and barely push to 1hr and half, then my i need to take out due to soreness at my ear. Is there any lighter/comfortable headset that i can use for let say 2hrs at least without need to endurance the pain? Lol.  sweat.gif

Thanks.
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Which part of your ear is hurting?
The helix? The antihelix? The antiragus? The earlobe?

Depending on where your ear hurts, it may or may not be because if you need velour earpads or your ears actually touching the driver cage of the headphone.
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 3 2014, 12:50 AM)
the evo is a pretty lightweight hp
hv u changed to the velour pads?
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Thanks for your reply. Oh, the evo is consider lightweight hp? Currently still using the stock pleather. Will change to velour and see how it goes.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 3 2014, 04:03 PM)
Which part of your ear is hurting?
The helix? The antihelix? The antiragus? The earlobe?

Depending on where your ear hurts, it may or may not be because if you need velour earpads or your ears actually touching the driver cage of the headphone.
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Thanks for your reply. The most hurt is around helix and lobule. I think maybe im not used to the hp. Or does it improve within time? I mean does our ear sooner or later become adaptable with the force? sweat.gif
Last time i use turtlebeach px21 also hurt after about 30mins of usage.


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using velour also no go. still soreness. plus i fell kinda hot around my ear with velor pads after 30mins of usage compare to pleather.

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Sep 3 2014, 05:26 PM)
Thanks for your reply. Oh, the evo is consider lightweight hp? Currently still using the stock pleather. Will change to velour and see how it goes.
Thanks for your reply. The most hurt is around helix and lobule. I think maybe im not used to the hp. Or does it improve within time? I mean does our ear sooner or later become adaptable with the force? sweat.gif
Last time i use turtlebeach px21 also hurt after about 30mins of usage.
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using velour also no go. still soreness. plus i fell kinda hot around my ear with velor pads after 30mins of usage compare to pleather.
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That means your ears are touching the drivers. The same issue as I've had with the PX21 too.
No, things won't improve because the helix is one of the areas on the ears where it is sensitive, no amount of break in will work.

You have 2 options now, either get thicker earpads or get a different headphone with angled drivers.

For thicker earpads, you can get the Sony MDR-NC6: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pairs-Upgrade-Ea...=p2054897.l5673
The fit may be a little bit tricky though, but workable. However also understand that changing to thicker pleather earpads will change the sound of the 681 Evo. It'll get bassier, loose, and will definitely recess the mids even more.

It's a cheap alternative of course, so it doesn't cost you much to try it out and see how it goes first.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 3 2014, 08:34 PM)
That means your ears are touching the drivers. The same issue as I've had with the PX21 too.
No, things won't improve because the helix is one of the areas on the ears where it is sensitive, no amount of break in will work.

You have 2 options now, either get thicker earpads or get a different headphone with angled drivers.

For thicker earpads, you can get the Sony MDR-NC6: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pairs-Upgrade-Ea...=p2054897.l5673
The fit may be a little bit tricky though, but workable. However also understand that changing to thicker pleather earpads will change the sound of the 681 Evo. It'll get bassier, loose, and will definitely recess the mids even more.

It's a cheap alternative of course, so it doesn't cost you much to try it out and see how it goes first.
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Thanks man. I see. When i observe and feel closely, yes my ear touching the driver. Btw, i got 1 cheapo rm30 supra-aural headphone that i use for skype. Sometime i gaming with it more than 2hrs, and didn't feel any soreness. Maybe due to super light build. But of course the sound is terrible, still had to us it as my rig don't have any speaker. sweat.gif

I think if i change to supra-aural type, should be okay. Perhaps.. Currently checking on old Grado SR60i since the price is very affordable. Any opinion or recommended?
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Thanks man. I see. When i observe and feel closely, yes my ear touching the driver. Btw, i got 1 cheapo rm30 supra-aural headphone that i use for skype. Sometime i gaming with it more than 2hrs, and didn't feel any soreness. Maybe due to super light build. But of course the sound is terrible, still had to us it as my rig don't have any speaker.  sweat.gif

I think if i change to supra-aural type, should be okay. Perhaps.. Currently checking on old Grado SR60i since the price is very affordable. Any opinion or recommended?
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Yes, supra-aural headphones would mean that your ears will never touch the drivers because the earpads are sitting on your ears.

I do not like Grados, but that's just me. I find them to be too bright, too revealing, quite lacking on the low-end, just entirely not fun generally. They're good for instruments heavy music like rock or metal, but it just feels too dull and bright for majority of games IMO.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 3 2014, 09:27 PM)
Yes, supra-aural headphones would mean that your ears will never touch the drivers because the earpads are sitting on your ears.

I do not like Grados, but that's just me. I find them to be too bright, too revealing, quite lacking on the low-end, just entirely not fun generally. They're good for instruments heavy music like rock or metal, but it just feels too dull and bright for majority of games IMO.
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Thanks for the input. Maybe will test at jaben, and check which better. Found Logitech G430 also not bad with dobly. Guess we'll never know until auditions. Will update if i manage to get new hp. smile.gif
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Thanks for the input. Maybe will test at jaben, and check which better. Found Logitech G430 also not bad with dobly. Guess we'll never know until auditions. Will update if i manage to get new hp. smile.gif
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I do have the G230 which I occasionally use with SBX, it's okay and decent at best. Only use it for MP games where audio isn't a priority, like MOBA games. The G430 is the same headset as the G230 though.
But I wouldn't use the G430 for any immersive single player games or FPS games tbh.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 3 2014, 10:40 PM)
I do have the G230 which I occasionally use with SBX, it's okay and decent at best. Only use it for MP games where audio isn't a priority, like MOBA games. The G430 is the same headset as the G230 though.
But I wouldn't use the G430 for any immersive single player games or FPS games tbh.
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Yah. Judging from the review on youtube, the usb soundcard on G430 is poor. I think i just get G230 or Asus Cerberus + Asus DGX 5.1. Just reach sweet spot in my budget. At least i can try how it feels like to have dedicated sound card. Plus can use with my 681 evo. But just for short time. Lol.

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Yah. Judging from the review on youtube, the usb soundcard on G430 is poor. I think i just get G230 or Asus Cerberus + Asus DGX 5.1. Just reach sweet spot in my budget. At least i can try how it feels like to have dedicated sound card. Plus can use with my 681 evo. But just for short time. Lol.
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That's a decent alternative.

My brain just exploded a little bit...

http://www.soundblaster.com/x7/

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PC/Mac/Console/Smartphone Host Mode compatible connectivity!
•Asychronous USB/Optical in&out/RCA in&out/Dual simultaneous Bluetooth connections/Stereo Speaker taps!
Higher specs than the ZxR!
Dolby Digital Live 5.1/7.1 digital decoding for consoles via Optical input!
Swappable OpAmps!
•Built-in beamforming mics!

HORLY SHEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT CREATIVE!

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Finally I bought Audio Technica ATH M50x. Can't wait for it to arrive and finals exam to end(3 weeks to go). drool.gif
Hopefully months of savings going to be worth it and goodbye Superlux Evo 681. thumbup.gif

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Any recommended headphone (no need mic) that has open-air/ear design with budget around RM300-RM350? The headphone must be durable.
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My brain just exploded a little bit...

http://www.soundblaster.com/x7/

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PC/Mac/Console/Smartphone Host Mode compatible connectivity!
•Asychronous USB/Optical in&out/RCA in&out/Dual simultaneous Bluetooth connections/Stereo Speaker taps!
Higher specs than the ZxR!
Dolby Digital Live 5.1/7.1 digital decoding for consoles via Optical input!
Swappable OpAmps!
•Built-in beamforming mics!

HORLY SHEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT CREATIVE!

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post Sep 12 2014, 12:29 AM

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Hi to all sifus here,
any recommended headset below RM100 for pc usage?
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QUOTE(heerosakura @ Sep 10 2014, 09:15 AM)
but our country still go creative product coming?  hmm.gif
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Import, no biggie.

QUOTE(calintztan @ Sep 12 2014, 12:29 AM)
Hi to all sifus here,
any recommended headset below RM100 for pc usage?
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Koss KSC75 + DX Mic.

Yeah. Not kidding.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 12 2014, 01:45 AM)
Koss KSC75 + DX Mic.

Yeah. Not kidding.
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Where can we get the DX Mic from?
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Are there any gaming headset that could double as smartphone headsets?
single cable.
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post Sep 13 2014, 09:55 AM

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http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-A900X-M...0376645&sr=1-27

ATH-A900X only RM500 shipped from Japan. So tempted.

So cheap if buy from Japan.

QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Sep 12 2014, 11:29 PM)
Are there any gaming headset that could double as smartphone headsets?
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You mean you want to use a phone headphone for PC right?

Creative Aurvana Live 2.
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guys, would like to ask... steelseries flux in ear, vs razer adaro, for normal music,gaming,smart phone usage. which one better? both rm 300 lol.. or can suggest another earphone below rm300 ? biggrin.gif thanks
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Sep 13 2014, 09:55 AM)
You mean you want to use a phone headphone for PC right?

Creative Aurvana Live 2.
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hai all gaming headset on the front page is 7.1?? loooking for fps
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QUOTE(Paradice @ Sep 12 2014, 02:07 PM)
Where can we get the DX Mic from?
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Dx.com.

QUOTE(moron88 @ Sep 13 2014, 11:44 AM)
guys, would like to ask... steelseries flux in ear, vs razer adaro, for normal music,gaming,smart phone usage. which one better? both rm 300 lol.. or can suggest another earphone below rm300 ? biggrin.gif thanks
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SS Flux in-ear has less bass than the Razer Adaro, but tighter and transitions into mids smoother than the Adaro. The Adaro on the other hand has more bloat, mids are quite recessed and the treble feels weak and inconsistent.
Which one is better depends on your preference.

The Flux in-ear is RM170, not RM300. The Adaro is RM300, which is just stupidly overpriced.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 13 2014, 10:14 PM)
SS Flux in-ear has less bass than the Razer Adaro, but tighter and transitions into mids smoother than the Adaro. The Adaro on the other hand has more bloat, mids are quite recessed and the treble feels weak and inconsistent.
Which one is better depends on your preference.

The Flux in-ear is RM170, not RM300. The Adaro is RM300, which is just stupidly overpriced.
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I think he probably meant the Flux in-ear Pro that's up to RM300+

@moron88: Don't buy the Adaro in-ears if you want something from Razer... It's exactly the same sound as the Hammerhead Pro doh.gif doh.gif which is RM219 at best price. The Adaro also don't come with an inline microphone.

But I think generally Steelseries got better audio performance than Razer wan lah smile.gif

Anyone here saw the latest Armaggeddon earphones?

I might be picking up the Nuke 7 to try try :3 Looks kewl, but dunno sound how lol
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Oh ic. Thanks for the input. I might consider other brands after some soul searching. For example audio technical or sound magic or even final audio design heaven 2 lol.
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I have been testing the Kingston HyperX Cloud for the past week (Qpad QH90) and I've been thoroughly impressed with how well the Cloud has performed over a vast selection of sources.

The bass has less kick and immersiveness than the similarly priced Creative Aurvana Live and to me that can be a good or bad thing depending on the source. When a source requires bass (many SP or action movies), I do like the CAL more but at the same time, the more linear bass on the Cloud is definitely a better fit to when I'm playing FPS or any sort of games that requires good audio positional cues. Though I do want to note that bass frequency do change depending on what earpads are being used, the leather or velour earpads. More on this in a bit.

Mids are recessed, but not overly so. The Cloud has a mild "V"-shaped signature to its overall sound and in comparison the CAL is more liquidy and upfront on the mids. The Cloud, fortunately doesn't get fatiguing to the ear with vocal heavy games or movies however. The missing details in the mids will put a setback on many genres of music generally. The treble has enough energy, though I would like a little more extension but thankfully they are consistent and well controlled without suddenly inducing a fluctuation of sibilance.

While the Cloud may weigh in at 350g, which by many headset standards is slightly on the hefty side, the rather wide headband does well to equalise the weight distribution and it really doesn't actually feel like 350g. The leather earpads does a seriously good job with blocking out noise while the memory foam velour pads are a good option for those who simply can't stand leather or is against using animal product.
Speaking of the pads, both pads do give a slight but noticeable change to audio quality of the Cloud. The leather earpads has more kick on the bass (logically correct) but also produce a slightly brighter treble, which does make the Cloud V-shaped sounding. The velour on the other hand is flatter on the bass and the soundstage do open up a little, causing a more U-shaped sound signature to the Cloud. So do experiement around and see which you like best.

So audio quality wise, the Cloud is pretty darn good. Comfort? Damn good too. But really makes the Cloud a winner? The price. Seriously, RM300+ gives you a good headset with a decent mic, GENUINE leather pads (yes, real cow skin) and memory foam velour earpads.
The fact that the Cloud can also be used with consoles as well with a few simple workarounds makes the Cloud the best RM300+ headset I can recommend today, bar none, period.

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I recently purchased the Armaggeddon Nuke 7 rclxms.gif

Here's a review based on my opinions smile.gif

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They're retailing for about RM129-RM149 (but most places will sell it at RM129).

As you guys can see in the picture, the packaging is really premium compared to a lot of other gaming peripheral branded earphones: it's just a big chunk of black foam that holds the earphones and all it's accessories, nothing is going to be damaged if you ever drop the packaging.

Speaking of contents, you'll get the following in the box:
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-Earbuds in various sizes and one with flanges
-Splitter cable into microphone & audio ports on your PC
-In-flight/Plane connector
-Carrying case
-1-Year Warranty card

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Having been quite familiar with Sonic Gear's reputation as a rather 'meh' audio company, I had very little expectations for this pair of earphones, so I was rather impressed by it.

The sound signature reminds me of the BeyerDynamic XP1 bass earphones --the highs are rather pitchy, the bass is ever present at a comfortable level (but slightly lower than the XP1), and the mids are at a rather lower level compared to the other two frequencies.

Sounds I have tested it with, and my opinions:

- Left 4 Dead 2: Gunshots, explosions and every sound with a high frequency is incredibly pitchy and gets very uncomfortable over time, and the bass seems hardly present somehow. *
- Bioshock Infinite: Similar to Left 4 Dead 2, but not as pitchy and I can hear the bass slightly better here.
- Age of Empires 3: The earphones performed very amazingly in this game, distant explosions and ambient sounds came in very clear and comfortable; even minor sounds like the workers cutting meat from an animal could be heard cleanly. Even when in the heat of battle every sound was clean.
- Various movies: Very balanced and clean sound, explosions sounded very well, bass was also very well carried over.
- Various music: Strangely enough, I feel this pair of earphones are more suited for music than gaming; bassy music really has the bass coming through; orchestral sounds come clean and crisp, although there's a minor distortion as you increase in volume; vocals also behave the same way as orchestral sounds. (I listen mostly to jazz and swing).
- Microphone is clear, pretty much like every other earphone around this price point/category.

*The BeyerDynamic XP1 Bass performs exactly the same way in L4D2 as the Nuke 7

My overall verdict?
The first thing I noticed when I held the earphones is that these feel really solid, they're heavy and very durable; made from metal or aluminium.
The pitchiness of the earphones isn't comfortable when you're playing FPS games with it, it gets very uncomfortable for long periods. Music is where this earphone seem to shine more (so much for being called the Ultimate Gaming Earphones).
Sound-stage on this earphone is fantastic, I can pinpoint music and in-game sounds very accurately; it felt really immersive.
The packaging and amount of accessories they give you is very appreciated, they're really taking care of you here.
At the price you're paying (RM129), it's really a bang for buck earphone.

Razer's Hammerhead Pro's provide a much more comfortable gaming experience with less pitchiness and more bass, but this is also subjective to each person also unsure.gif I guess you could say the Nuke 7 is more to music and the Hammerhead Pro more to games tongue.gif

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hi guys..can recommend me any good full headphone for gaming with mic.

got budget up to RM500..huhu..

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Hi all. I'm looking a new headphone to play upcoming Middle Earth : Shadow of Mordor. Is there any headphone to recommend around RM200 ish? I don't need mic. Just need better audio for RPG genre games, and if possible for bass-head.
I used my friend Superlux forgot what model, i think the evo something. The sound seem flat and lack of bass. Didn't like it.

I think around my budget can only go for Logitech G230 or Razer Kraken. Looking forward for sifus opinion since the game will release on October 1st. smile.gif

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QUOTE(siv 007 @ Sep 28 2014, 08:16 PM)
Hi all. I'm looking a new headphone to play upcoming Middle Earth : Shadow of Mordor. Is there any headphone to recommend around RM200 ish? I don't need mic. Just need better audio for RPG genre games, and if possible for bass-head.
I used my friend Superlux forgot what model, i think the evo something. The sound seem flat and lack of bass. Didn't like it.

I think around my budget can only go for Logitech G230 or Razer Kraken. Looking forward for sifus opinion since the game will release on October 1st. smile.gif
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QUOTE(siv 007 @ Sep 28 2014, 08:16 PM)
Hi all. I'm looking a new headphone to play upcoming Middle Earth : Shadow of Mordor. Is there any headphone to recommend around RM200 ish? I don't need mic. Just need better audio for RPG genre games, and if possible for bass-head.
I used my friend Superlux forgot what model, i think the evo something. The sound seem flat and lack of bass. Didn't like it.

I think around my budget can only go for Logitech G230 or Razer Kraken. Looking forward for sifus opinion since the game will release on October 1st. smile.gif
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If you think the EVO model is flat and lack of bass, I do not know what you expect from the G230 and Kraken.
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If you think the EVO model is flat and lack of bass, I do not know what you expect from the G230 and Kraken.
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Clearly I expect more bass from G230 and Kraken. Problem?
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QUOTE(siv 007 @ Oct 1 2014, 04:25 PM)
Clearly I expect more bass from G230 and Kraken. Problem?
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The Logitech G230 aren't known for their bass nor is it known for anything striking. It's a good all round budget 'gaming' headset. With 2 years warranty, it's a pretty good deal compared to other similarly priced 'gaming' headsets.

I assume you mean the Razer Kraken Pro, however is known for it's bass. Perhaps too much of it. However adjusting the EQ might help. Razer only comes with 1 year warranty.

If it is bass you think is more important for your gaming, then the Kraken should be your choice.

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 1 2014, 05:43 PM)
The Logitech G230 aren't known for their bass nor is it known for anything striking. It's a good all round budget 'gaming' headset. With 2 years warranty, it's a pretty good deal compared to other similarly priced 'gaming' headsets.

I assume you mean the Razer Kraken Pro, however is known for it's bass. Perhaps too much of it. However adjusting the EQ might help. Razer only comes with 1 year warranty.

If it is bass you think is more important for your gaming, then the Kraken should be your choice.
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Actually the Kraken std, as im not using mic at all. Thanks for the highlight bro. Read few review mostly said that Kraken quite bassy but sacrifice on clarity thus made the sound lil muddy. Oh well. Can't ask more for it price tag. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(siv 007 @ Oct 1 2014, 09:47 PM)
Actually the Kraken std, as im not using mic at all. Thanks for the highlight bro. Read few review mostly said that Kraken quite bassy but sacrifice on clarity thus made the sound lil muddy. Oh well. Can't ask more for it price tag. biggrin.gif
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Yeah normally muddying would mean less clarity or sometimes will sound muffled.

What is your current headphone?
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 2 2014, 03:37 PM)
Yeah normally muddying would mean less clarity or sometimes will sound muffled.

What is your current headphone?
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I got an offer RM155 for Brand new Kraken Standard. Seem a good deal.
Currently using my friend Superlux EVO that one. I think about a month i borrow =.=" since he didn't used to headphone and prefer IEM.
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Get G430, should be somewhere around rm260. It has 7.1 Virtual surround which works well if you only open 1 audio at a time.

G430 is one of the best and affordable for a virtual 7.1 surround. Its good for RPG. also good for music.

But they dont support u playing games and listening to music at same time as they have a built in fader for teamspeak and such. Useful for FPS game when i want to talk, as it slows down the explosion and shits.
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QUOTE(siv 007 @ Oct 2 2014, 04:26 PM)
I got an offer RM155 for Brand new Kraken Standard. Seem a good deal.
Currently using my friend Superlux EVO that one. I think about a month i borrow =.=" since he didn't used to headphone and prefer IEM.
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Ahh ok. Superlux EVO is a nice headphone but since you need more bass, the Kraken seems like a good deal for RM155.

Personally I would prefer any audiophile headphone compared to any gaming headphone of similar price due to experience with better sound quality with audiophile gear. But I have not personally tested the EVO myself, only the older version of the HD 681 (bright headphone), so can't really comment on your experience.

Post your review/thoughts on it when you buy it. nod.gif
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Hi there, I would like to hear some opinions for suitable gaming headset for me. Some specs are:
-must together with a mic,
-best to have surround sound(for fps game), it is still okay if it don't have this feature,
-quite comfortable for long time gaming,
-budget would be near to RM250, max to RM300.
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QUOTE(kill991 @ Oct 4 2014, 06:20 PM)
Hi there, I would like to hear some opinions for suitable gaming headset for me. Some specs are:
-must together with a mic,
-best to have surround sound(for fps game), it is still okay if it don't have this feature,
-quite comfortable for long time gaming,
-budget would be near to RM250, max to RM300.
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QUOTE(zizi393 @ Oct 2 2014, 06:29 PM)
Get G430, should be somewhere around rm260. It has 7.1 Virtual surround which works well if you only open 1 audio at a time.

G430 is one of the best and affordable for a virtual 7.1 surround. Its good for RPG. also good for music.

But they dont support u playing games and listening to music at same time as they have a built in fader for teamspeak and such. Useful for FPS game when i want to talk, as it slows down the explosion and shits.
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Alright, noted. Will look into it.

Edit: For the USB connector, will it still works if i changed it to Y adapter where the combo jack at my laptop is changed to audio and mic by using the adapter?

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QUOTE(kill991 @ Oct 4 2014, 07:05 PM)
Alright, noted. Will look into it.

Edit: For the USB connector, will it still works if i changed it to Y adapter where the combo jack at my laptop is changed to audio and mic by using the adapter?
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The G430 comes with a USB card that act as a soundcard that has the 7.1 feature if you need it. Your mic and headphone 3.5mm connection is then connected to your USB adapter.

So all you need is a USB connection for your laptop.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16826104847
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 4 2014, 09:46 PM)
The G430 comes with a USB card that act as a soundcard that has the 7.1 feature if you need it. Your mic and headphone 3.5mm connection is then connected to your USB adapter.

So all you need is a USB connection for your laptop.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16826104847
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now that the usb adapter is together with the product, just searched for it. What I means is that if I wanna use the headset to connect to combo jack in my laptop, can I use Y adapter to change it to audio and mic input then use the headset without the usb adapter?(the mic will still be functional?) I know that may will disallow use of surround 7.1 feature. But u know, laptop always have too limited usb port. All of the usb ports is now used for now for keyboard, mouse and cooling pad.
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hi all, currently using steelseries siberia v2, feels like i want to upgrade. budget around 300+ after selling current headset
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QUOTE(kill991 @ Oct 5 2014, 01:50 AM)
now that the usb adapter is together with the product, just searched for it. What I means is that if I wanna use the headset to connect to combo jack in my laptop, can I use Y adapter to change it to audio and mic input then use the headset without the usb adapter?(the mic will still be functional?) I know that may will disallow use of surround 7.1 feature. But u know, laptop always have too limited usb port. All of the usb ports is now used for now for keyboard, mouse and cooling pad.
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I don't think the why splitter works that way.

As far as I know and I might be wrong, there should be 2 3.5mm slots, one for headphones and 1 for mic.

If you put a Y splitter on the headphone jack, it is a one way signal which is audio output. While the mic 3.5mm slot is an audio input.

So the Y splitter is still an output only slot. Your mic won't be effective.

If you aren't going to use USB, then buy the cheaper G230 (<RM200) which is the same headphone without the USB and 7.1 feature.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Oct 5 2014, 05:40 PM)
I don't think the why splitter works that way.

As far as I know and I might be wrong, there should be 2 3.5mm slots, one for headphones and 1 for mic.

If you put a Y splitter on the headphone jack, it is a one way signal which is audio output. While the mic 3.5mm slot is an audio input.

So the Y splitter is still an output only slot. Your mic won't be effective.

If you aren't going to use USB, then buy the cheaper G230 (<RM200) which is the same headphone without the USB and 7.1 feature.
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Alright, will looks into G230 too. Thanks for every info. Appreciated. smile.gif
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hi all, currently using steelseries siberia v2, feels like i want to upgrade. budget around 300+ after selling current headset
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Siberia V2 x best ke? Apa ciri2 y bro cari untuk upgrade dari Siberia V2? Maybe can try Kingston HyperX Cloud. Saw SJBen review 1 page back, seem good. smile.gif

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Oct 5 2014, 10:39 PM)
Siberia V2 x best ke? Apa ciri2 y bro cari untuk upgrade dari Siberia V2? Maybe can try Kingston HyperX Cloud. Saw SJBen review 1 page back, seem good. smile.gif
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thanks bro, ill look at that
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guys! i'm not planning on spending much money. So,basically what i'm trying to ask you guys is the Sony Gold Wireless Headset worth it?

I have an ATH M50, but i realised that having a mic would help me in gaming.

Thinking of selling it off.
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QUOTE(ar14arshad @ Oct 9 2014, 10:21 PM)
guys! i'm not planning on spending much money. So,basically what i'm trying to ask you guys is the Sony Gold Wireless Headset worth it?

I have an ATH M50, but i realised that having a mic would help me in gaming.

Thinking of selling it off.
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So, why not buy a $2 mic? http://www.dx.com/p/mini-clip-on-microphone-7080
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 9 2014, 10:24 PM)
damn, i never thought of that sweat.gif

but say i want to use my M50 plugged into DUALSHOCK 4's audio jack, where shall i connect the mic?
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QUOTE(ar14arshad @ Oct 9 2014, 10:39 PM)
damn, i never thought of that  sweat.gif

but say i want to use my M50 plugged into DUALSHOCK 4's audio jack, where shall i connect the mic?
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You can't. Unless you get something like a Mixamp and TurtleBeach chat cable to split both inputs. Very costly of course.

Otherwise, the Gold Headset is your option. It sounds comparably worse on all fronts than the M50 though.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 9 2014, 11:35 PM)
You can't. Unless you get something like a Mixamp and TurtleBeach chat cable to split both inputs. Very costly of course.

Otherwise, the Gold Headset is your option. It sounds comparably worse on all fronts than the M50 though.
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dude, do you think this will work?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006T65CX...=A1CGVTS2Q01082
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QUOTE(ar14arshad @ Oct 9 2014, 11:41 PM)
It's a little bit more complicated than you think.

The issue is, the PS4's controller only allows the user to either send chat audio to the headphone or game audio, not both simultaneously.
So splitting the connection to the controller would just result in either you getting game audio or chat audio, whichever you select. You can't select both simultaneously. Why? Ask the idiots at Sony. The PS3 allowed this, but not the PS4.

There is another work around which you will have to perform every single time you start the PS4 though, much cheaper than getting a Mixamp and TB chat cable.

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Step 1: Turn on PS4 and connect up one of these USB audio devices (I assume a USB mic will also work the same way, though I haven't tried one yet).  Let the PS4 recognize it and assign it to your profile if it asks you.

Step 2: Plug in a pair of headphones to the controller (or any 3.5mm jack, even an empty adapter works, as long as it isn't the headset that comes with the PS4 or anything else that will get recognized as a mic).

Step 3: Unplug the headphones (or whatever 3.5mm connection you used) from the controller.

Step 4: Enjoy chat audio coming from your headphones while being able to use a mic off the USB!

http://www.head-fi.org/t/690663/ps4-with-3...5#post_10918480


I personally don't chat anymore on the PS4 as my preferred setup was to clip a bluetooth headset onto my shirt and pipe all audio into my headphone like on the PS3. So until Sony fixes this, no chatting for me then.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 9 2014, 11:54 PM)
It's a little bit more complicated than you think.

The issue is, the PS4's controller only allows the user to either send chat audio to the headphone or game audio, not both simultaneously.
So splitting the connection to the controller would just result in either you getting game audio or chat audio, whichever you select. You can't select both simultaneously. Why? Ask the idiots at Sony. The PS3 allowed this, but not the PS4.

There is another work around which you will have to perform every single time you start the PS4 though, much cheaper than getting a Mixamp and TB chat cable.
I personally don't chat anymore on the PS4 as my preferred setup was to clip a bluetooth headset onto my shirt and pipe all audio into my headphone like on the PS3. So until Sony fixes this, no chatting for me then.
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too bad . my main purpose was to chat with people. cause currently i'm playing Destiny (like everyone else) and Battlefield 4.

So, you could probably imagine how helpful it would be for me to chat doh.gif
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QUOTE(ar14arshad @ Oct 9 2014, 11:59 PM)
too bad . my main purpose was to chat with people. cause currently i'm playing Destiny (like everyone else) and Battlefield 4.

So, you could probably imagine how helpful it would be for me to chat  doh.gif
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I understand. You can try the workaround with the post I quoted. Those USB adapters are dirt cheap anyways, if it doesn't work then decide if you wanna get a Gold headset or not.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 16 2014, 07:42 PM)
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I have been testing the Kingston HyperX Cloud for the past week (Qpad QH90) and I've been thoroughly impressed with how well the Cloud has performed over a vast selection of sources.

The bass has less kick and immersiveness than the similarly priced Creative Aurvana Live and to me that can be a good or bad thing depending on the source. When a source requires bass (many SP or action movies), I do like the CAL more but at the same time, the more linear bass on the Cloud is definitely a better fit to when I'm playing FPS or any sort of games that requires good audio positional cues. Though I do want to note that bass frequency do change depending on what earpads are being used, the leather or velour earpads. More on this in a bit.

Mids are recessed, but not overly so. The Cloud has a mild "V"-shaped signature to its overall sound and in comparison the CAL is more liquidy and upfront on the mids. The Cloud, fortunately doesn't get fatiguing to the ear with vocal heavy games or movies however. The missing details in the mids will put a setback on many genres of music generally. The treble has enough energy, though I would like a little more extension but thankfully they are consistent and well controlled without suddenly inducing a fluctuation of sibilance.

While the Cloud may weigh in at 350g, which by many headset standards is slightly on the hefty side, the rather wide headband does well to equalise the weight distribution and it really doesn't actually feel like 350g. The leather earpads does a seriously good job with blocking out noise while the memory foam velour pads are a good option for those who simply can't stand leather or is against using animal product.
Speaking of the pads, both pads do give a slight but noticeable change to audio quality of the Cloud. The leather earpads has more kick on the bass (logically correct) but also produce a slightly brighter treble, which does make the Cloud V-shaped sounding. The velour on the other hand is flatter on the bass and the soundstage do open up a little, causing a more U-shaped sound signature to the Cloud. So do experiement around and see which you like best.

So audio quality wise, the Cloud is pretty darn good. Comfort? Damn good too. But really makes the Cloud a winner? The price. Seriously, RM300+ gives you a good headset with a decent mic, GENUINE leather pads (yes, real cow skin) and memory foam velour earpads.
The fact that the Cloud can also be used with consoles as well with a few simple workarounds makes the Cloud the best RM300+ headset I can recommend today, bar none, period.
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tempting, or should i save some for for custom one pro cry.gif
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The COP has more bass emphasis (on the assumption that the vent port is on its standard setting), it's definitely more impactful and the sound is overall fuller. Depending on how much you can get the COP at, if it's at RM500 or so then I'd say go for the COP. But RM800 is a hard ask when I personally think the AKG K612 Pro is a better headphone overall at a similar price (unless you absolutely need a closed can).
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 10 2014, 01:35 AM)
The COP has more bass emphasis (on the assumption that the vent port is on its standard setting), it's definitely more impactful and the sound is overall fuller. Depending on how much you can get the COP at, if it's at RM500 or so then I'd say go for the COP. But RM800 is a hard ask when I personally think the AKG K612 Pro is a better headphone overall at a similar price (unless you absolutely need a closed can).
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Asked a local garage sales seller. COP goes for RM599. I believe retail RRP is 799?
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I was reading past a few pages and seems like no one talks about the Sony Gold wireless headset...umm, is it good for gaming at that price? I'm new and wanna invest on a good headset that will make it for a long time to come with great quality. Budget perhaps up to RM500, depending on its worthiness. Priority is gaming first, the rest secondary. Thanks!
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Oct 28 2014, 03:41 AM)
I was reading past a few pages and seems like no one talks about the Sony Gold wireless headset...umm, is it good for gaming at that price? I'm new and wanna invest on a good headset that will make it for a long time to come with great quality. Budget perhaps up to RM500, depending on its worthiness. Priority is gaming first, the rest secondary. Thanks!
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Do you need a mic?
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Do you need a mic?
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Yeah, best that it's hidden. But not sure if that affects the quality. Sorry, I'm not familiar with headset :/
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stupid question here. tongue.gif

xiaomi piston vs logitech G230

which one is better for FPS games?
-used Razer surround software
-forget mic, I prefer to use built-in mic[laptop].
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im looking for gaming headset
prefer wireless
and can use with ps3/ps4/pc

thinking of ps gold wireless ..price quite ok
budget around 300-500
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Way too damn quiet in here. Time to start something.

Creative's Soundblaster X7 is now out, for a whopping $400... but, for this week only it is $120 off! So $280!
http://us.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-x7

For those wondering, it's basically an external ZxR with class D amps for passive speakers. But it's also that one item to play it all sort of niche, you can use it for PCs, consoles and even mobile devices. Versatality wise, it's unmatched.

Thinking of getting it, but I don't need the amp for speakers. Wish Creative would make an X5 or something without the class D amps.

Otherwise right now, it's the best option for gamers who wants virtual surround and has a lot of devices.

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Hi sifus ! Need help on recommendations

Currently using a Razer Kraken Pro (Very uncomfy) and looking to change to a new set.

-Mostly for gaming (Dota,CSGO) some music and movies as well. Voice chat all the time since gaming always use talk

-Comfortable ! (Razer Kraken super uncomfy sad.gif )

Was looking at Steelseries Siberia Elite Prism and ATH M50X
Between this 2 which to get ? Mic wont be a problem since i can buy those lower-end one or maybe even use my razer kraken mic

Thanks alot ! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Nov 14 2014, 08:56 PM)
stupid question here. tongue.gif

xiaomi piston vs logitech G230

which one is better for FPS games?
-used Razer surround software
-forget mic, I prefer to use built-in mic[laptop].
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mi piston is budget and OK if you dont mind having your ears stuck all day (quite comfy tho)

its good for travel also

i use g230 bcoz mainly i dont like having my earhole stuck... if your head too big (as in LONG) u will feel uncomfy but im OK with it

oh btw the mi piston has more bass in it compared to g230

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QUOTE(nothintodo @ Dec 16 2014, 04:21 PM)
mi piston is budget and OK if you dont mind having your ears stuck all day (quite comfy tho)

its good for travel also

i use g230 bcoz mainly i dont like having my earhole stuck... if your head too big (as in LONG) u will feel uncomfy but im OK with it

oh btw the mi piston has more bass in it compared to g230
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do ya mean wide ?

p/s: already have piston. Just wanna check if g230 could gimme better experience[sound].

This post has been edited by ErgoProxi: Dec 16 2014, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Dec 16 2014, 04:24 PM)
do ya mean wide ?

p/s: already have piston. Just wanna check if g230 could gimme better experience[sound].
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id say the mi piston has a better audio quality..

i mean the g230 is a bit tight on the top of the head area
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i thinking to get Hyper X cloud, currently not very comfortable with siberia v2. i think becouse of my big ear and head.. tongue.gif. so right now i looking for oval shape cup.

any hyper X user here? any comments?



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