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post Jun 12 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(subimpact @ Jun 12 2014, 11:49 AM)
not sure if i should quit my job and go fulltime ministry
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Going full time is ministry and warfare at the same time, be prepare to face both.

Toughest challenge is always towards people.

If you got the knack for loving people, it would help lessen the challenge.

My advise is don't go into ministry to escape the rat race and politics of corporate world because in ministry you'll find it's almost the same, only the challenge could be much greater.




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post Jun 12 2014, 02:30 PM

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you know, what you can do is, everyday pray to the Lord for good health.

I know it works because Even though I'm around people with flu, cough, etc, doesn't catch on.

Was almost caught with bad sore throat but I told God, I'm leading in P&W, I need my voice, so God answered & delivered.

I want you to know that you have a right to this as well., you can pray for this anytime and everytime, don't need a reason for good health, it's been paid for by the blood of Christ.

Just exercise your faith.

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I find that very hard to believe. I am very sure it happens miraculously to other people. One of my elders survived a stage 4 cancer. It's that the recovery seems to elude me. sad.gif

Pehkay, interesting thing you posted the devotional today! A part of my writing had a man who first appears saintly, but as time goes by it's revealed that he has issues too. I'm glad that it's not an insult to RL christians
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2014, 01:30 PM)
Going full time is ministry and warfare at the same time, be prepare to face both.

Toughest challenge is always towards people.

If you got the knack for loving people, it would help lessen the challenge.

My advise is don't go into ministry to escape the rat race and politics of corporate world because in ministry you'll find it's almost the same, only the challenge could be much greater.
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true... biggrin.gif

not full time maybe part time..
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 12 2014, 02:30 PM)
I find that very hard to believe. I am very sure it happens miraculously to other people. One of my elders survived a stage 4 cancer. It's that the recovery seems to elude me. sad.gif

Pehkay, interesting thing you posted the devotional today! A part of my writing had a man who first appears saintly, but as time goes by it's revealed that he has issues too. I'm glad that it's not an insult to RL christians
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Faith requires exercise.

The more you go into it, your faith or can I say your confidence in the Lord will grow.

This is where James 2:14-26 applies.

Faith must be accompanied by works in words, thoughts and action.


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post Jun 12 2014, 02:58 PM

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Jesus mention that, do not commit adultary, and he also mention, those who view another person lustfully is already commenting adultery.
Now I wanna ask about the word lust here, as a guy, I believe that it is a human nature to react when they see a sexy or say, a full nude body. Can a christian or even a pastor look the other way and not fantasies if a female is nude in front of them?
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post Jun 12 2014, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(subimpact @ Jun 12 2014, 02:35 PM)
true... biggrin.gif

not full time maybe part time..
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Churches are always looking for extra hands in the ministry, even part time is much needed.

Anyone can go into full time ministry but I believe it takes the Lord's calling for smoother transition.


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post Jun 12 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2014, 03:07 PM)
Churches are always looking for extra hands in the ministry, even part time is much needed.

Anyone can go into full time ministry but I believe it takes the Lord's calling for smoother transition.
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yea ... coz im at a point in my walk in life about doing something beneficial for the Lord instead of just going to mundane daily jobs which just push me through daily materialistic stuff...

i mean like fully devoted into ministry.. does not need to be pastorial... maybe like out reach for the orang asli, orphans or some unfortunate old folks which has been forsaken by their childrens..
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:58 PM)
Jesus mention that, do not commit adultary, and he also mention, those who view another person lustfully is already commenting adultery.
Now I wanna ask about the word lust here, as a guy, I believe that it is a human nature to react when they see a sexy or say, a full nude body. Can a christian or even a pastor look the other way and not fantasies if a female is nude in front of them?
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Jesus also mention if your eyes caused you to sin, better to gorge it out and throw it away. (Matthew 18:9).

Anyone without proper understand of God's word will misinterpret that and take that as literal meaning of physical gorging our eyes out.

What Jesus is actually saying is, deal the problem at root level. It has nothing to do with cutting off your hands or eyes.

How do you arrive at sexy or nude body situation? If it's through pornography website, them refrain from surfing there.
If it's from downloaded movies, delete the file permanently.

Same thing I always advise, even in /k/, avoid all the hnnng thread.

Deal at root level.

What did Joseph do when Pothiphars wife wanted to seduce Him? He stayed on, fighting with his will power and holy thoughts?

No, He ran. Why? Because He knows the putting confidence in the flesh will only succumb.




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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jun 11 2014, 11:27 AM)
Why do you want to know?

It's a movie ... definitely some "artistic license" were taken that were not accurate.

This review seem reasonable : http://www.blogos.org/gotquestions/son-of-God.php
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thanks for the link smile.gif
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QUOTE(subimpact @ Jun 12 2014, 03:15 PM)
yea ... coz im at a point in my walk in life about doing something beneficial for the Lord  instead of just going to mundane daily jobs which just push me through daily materialistic stuff...

i mean like fully devoted into ministry.. does not need to be pastorial... maybe like out reach for the orang asli, orphans or some unfortunate old folks which has been forsaken by their childrens..
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or serving in your home Church talking to fellow believers so that they don't feel left out is also ministry.

Simple things but yet equally important.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2014, 04:35 PM)
or serving in your home Church talking to fellow believers so that they don't feel left out is also ministry.

Simple things but yet equally important.
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Yes it is. I always feel left out to be honest >_<
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2014, 04:35 PM)
or serving in your home Church talking to fellow believers so that they don't feel left out is also ministry.

Simple things but yet equally important.
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well u need to be fruitful too biggrin.gif keep mingling around your circle is not progressing.. lately i seen many churches has more elderly people coz they tend to constrain themselve within their churches la... need to out reach sikit... smile.gif

QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 12 2014, 04:43 PM)
Yes it is. I always feel left out to be honest >_<
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slowly loooooo take to em.. unless they very harsh XD
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 12 2014, 04:43 PM)
Yes it is. I always feel left out to be honest >_<
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yeah I know,

When Church leaders or Pastors connect & communicate with the members, the members feel at home.

They feel a sense of belonging.

It's always a challenge when the Pastor or Church leaders don't communicate frequently with the members.


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post Jun 12 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(subimpact @ Jun 12 2014, 04:49 PM)
well u need to be fruitful too biggrin.gif keep mingling around your circle is not progressing.. lately i seen many churches has more elderly people coz they tend to constrain themselve within their churches la... need to out reach sikit... smile.gif
slowly loooooo take to em.. unless they very harsh XD
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Nah, I don't really have my own circle, I'm more like a lone ranger type.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2014, 05:00 PM)
Nah, I don't really have my own circle, I'm more like a lone ranger type.
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well u dont attend cellgroups ???

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QUOTE(subimpact @ Jun 12 2014, 05:06 PM)
well u dont attend cellgroups ???

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I do, I get involved quite a bit in my Church, what I mean is, I don't have a particular favorite circle I frequently mix.

Try be neutral as possible.


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2014, 05:12 PM)
I do, I get involved quite a bit in my Church, what I mean is, I don't have a particular favorite circle I frequently mix.

Try be neutral as possible.
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currently im mixing with youths which plays ultimate... and young working adult... and also do ushering.. and soon joining a PA team.. however seems lacking..i feel i could do more ...
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jun 12 2014, 09:11 AM)
CHRIST NEEDING BROKEN VESSELS TO BE CHANNELS OF LIVING WATER

Christ does not need whole vessels; instead, He needs broken vessels. This is because only broken vessels can be channels of living water. Whole vessels can only be cisterns of dead water (Jeremiah 2:13). The biggest problem today is that it is hard to find any wounds or scars in most Christians. Most of us do not have any wounds, scars, marks of death, or experiences of the cross. Even though we have been saved and truly have Christ’s life in us, this life has no way to come out. The reason is not that our behavior is too poor or too good but that we are too whole and too impregnable. Because we have no wounds, Christ has no way to be released from within us.

Suppose a person is quick-tempered and appears arrogant. It would be relatively easy for such a one to become humble because he may often examine himself and condemn his irritability. Suppose another person is meek by nature and apparently humble. It would be harder for such a one to know himself. Instead, it would be easy for him to become proud before God. He may think that the other person is irritable and arrogant while he is meek and humble. What is this? This is real pride. Sometimes when we go to visit people, the wife says, "My husband is too quick." What she means is that her husband is quick but she is not and that she is meek but her husband is troublesome. However, she is actually more troublesome before God than her husband. It is hard for many of the saints who have a number of good points to make any spiritual progress. This is due to the fact that they have listened to many messages not for themselves but for others.

Some of the saints do not seem to have a bad temper; they are as gentle as sheep. However, they always listen to messages not for themselves but for others. When they hear a word concerning breaking, they think, "Brother A is quick-tempered, so he surely needs to be broken. Sister B is not good either, so she also needs to be broken." It never occurs to them that those who are meek need to be broken even more than those who are quick-tempered.

It is often easier for God to deal with a stubborn person than with a pliable person. Someone may seem to be so pliable, like a rubber ball, that God has no way to break him. When a certain situation arises, he does not care. When he is dealt with by his supervisor, he does not care. When he is dealt with by some of his family members, he cares even less. Like a rubber ball, he bounces back whenever he is hit, and he bounces up whenever he is thrown down. This kind of person is indifferent toward everything; he is unbreakable. He cannot be broken by one person, nor by two, three, or even five persons. However, if he were a glass, he could be broken with a single stroke.

If a sister cannot be broken by her husband, her son, or her daughter-in-law, people will praise her, saying that she is really spiritual because she cannot be broken by anyone. However, we must realize that because she is not broken and cannot be broken, Christ has no way to live out from her. What she lives out is her whole self, her smooth and refined self, but not Christ. Christ has no way to live out of her.

Neither our kindness, our good deeds, nor our morality can represent Christ. Only Christ Himself can represent Christ. Nothing that we have, even if it is good, can represent Christ. The progress of a Christian’s spiritual life does not depend on how much he has changed; rather, it depends on how much he has been broken and to what stature Christ has grown in him. In other words, the growth of a Christian hinges on his being broken and Christ’s increasing in him.
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Reading this was really meaningful. You knw, when u reach a certain age & have a so-called track record as testimony, folks will only say things like : Oh! he's just a nice person or Oh! he's a good boy so he doesn't do these things.

Never will you hear them say, he behaves like this b'cos he's a Christian or he's a goodie-2-shoes b'cos he follows Christ. So, I would like to find out more about his faith! They attribute the good, coming frm the man himself rather than a change that was brought on by the leading of the Holy Spirit simply b'cos he/she wasn't that bad to begin with. So unless thr's this tremendous change which can bring out the contrast easily, others just don't see it. Sometimes witnessing is challenging b'cos of this.

Then on top of that, God is moulding us in his own way on the side, b'cos thr's still sanctification to be had. A works in progress which other ppl do not & cannot see.
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post Jun 12 2014, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2014, 03:24 PM)
Jesus also mention if your eyes caused you to sin, better to gorge it out and throw it away. (Matthew 18:9).

Anyone without proper understand of God's word will misinterpret that and take that as literal meaning of physical gorging our eyes out.

What Jesus is actually saying is, deal the problem at root level. It has nothing to do with cutting off your hands or eyes.

How do you arrive at sexy or nude body situation? If it's through pornography website, them refrain from surfing there.
If it's from downloaded movies, delete the file permanently.

Same thing I always advise, even in /k/, avoid all the hnnng thread.

Deal at root level.

What did Joseph do when Pothiphars wife wanted to seduce Him? He stayed on, fighting with his will power and holy thoughts?

No, He ran. Why? Because He knows the putting confidence in the flesh will only succumb.
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That is what i thought at first, literally take out eyes out, and i thought, isn't it too much sweat.gif
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jun 12 2014, 06:07 PM)
That is what i thought at first, literally take out eyes out, and i thought, isn't it too much  sweat.gif
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Ha ha ha ha ha! if it was taken literally, u will see many blind ppl about tongue.gif

but yeah, avoid the temptation b4 it comes. u can try surfing the net wif doors open, whr ur household members can see what u r viewing.

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