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ngaisteve1
post Sep 24 2014, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 24 2014, 07:36 PM)
ngaisteve1... please fix my back :-)
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Have you tried Yoga?

Found a couples info. Looks like can give it a shot smile.gif

http://www.yogaforscoliosis.com/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25...H-exercise.html

http://painkickers.com/yoga-the-most-effec...iosis-exercise/
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post Sep 24 2014, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(TankerGadget Store @ Sep 24 2014, 10:48 PM)
tot yoga is against christianity ? i mean those posses are perform when hindu worship god ... and pastor said its not recommended to do yoga
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I think should be ok for exercise for health purpose unless you chant/meditate on those things related to Hinduism. The yoga instructor in fitness center gotta neutral also so that any race or religion in that center can also do it.
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post Sep 24 2014, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Sep 24 2014, 08:24 PM)
what is your problem here huh? you wanna play pointing game go ahead and report UW then there is a report button if you feel he did wrong here, don't come in here and talk nonsense here...........you got anything against him go ahead and report him or PM him directly, if not just get lost this thread is not your personal vendetta!!! vmad.gif
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Relax ya nod.gif
Btw UW is she laugh.gif

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post Sep 25 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(TankerGadget Store @ Sep 25 2014, 03:58 AM)
just back from hospital ... 3am in the morning, brother admitted into hospital kpj klang ... bloody urine ==
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How's he now? Due to infection?
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post Sep 25 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 25 2014, 08:56 AM)
Tq ngai, Yes tried Yoga since 6 years back. I even has the book of yoga for scoliosis.

I need to have a lot of determination to repeteadly repeat the same posture again and again. It's the mental strength that i don't have. I don't much bother about religion / kundalini attached to yogo, cuz my Jesus is much more bigger than anything else.

Also there are at least 20 styles and all of them can consume up to 1 to 2 hours daily. I simply don't have time and courage to do this "narrow path" you know what i mean hehehe... :-)
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Ya, it takes much motivation and determination esp do something for health purpose but not our hobby biggrin.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Sep 25 2014, 12:08 AM)
that is correct. the poses. the article below is pretty long but sums it up nicely. its not as innocent as it seems.

What Is Yoga?

Yoga (/ˈjo�ɡə/; Sanskrit: योग, Listen) are the physical, mental, and spiritual practices or disciplines that aim to transform body and mind. The term denotes a variety of schools, practices and goals in Hinduism, Buddhism (including Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddhism and Jainism,[ the best-known being Hatha yoga and Raja yoga. The term yoga is derived from the literal meaning of "yoking together" a span of horses or oxes, but came to be applied to the "yoking" of mind and body.

Yoga: noun - A mystic and ascetic Hindu discipline by which one seeks to achieve liberation of the self and union with the supreme spirit or universal soul through intense concentration, deep meditation, and practices involving prescribed postures, controlled breathing, etc.;

a system of exercising involving the postures, breathing, etc. practiced in this discipline.

A Christian who studies the Word of God, should instantly see red flags and discern that yoga and Christianity are not compatible.

We see in the definition: “Yoga is the physical, mental and spiritual practices or disciplines that aim to transform body and mind.” What does God say about transforming our minds?

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God” (Romans 12:2).

We know that the practice of yoga is rooted in Hinduism and Buddhism. As Christians, do we want to open up our minds to something that will transform us to be more like Hindus or Buddhists? Ok, when we see it in black and white, it seems unthinkable. But this is exactly what practicing yoga is accomplishing in your life.

“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death”

(Proverbs 14:12).


Next we see in the definition - The term yoga is derived from the literal meaning of “yoking together” a span of horses or oxes, but came to be applied to the “yoking” of mind and body.

Another red flag should easily be seen by a student of the Word. Let’s see what God says about being yoked together:

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” (2 Corinthians 6:14).

The picture of oxen being yoked together is used by both yoga and the Word. In yoga, the goal is for mind and body to be yoked together. It’s a Hindu discipline to bring mind and body into submission - but to what end? 

Were you aware that every yoga pose is a posture of worship to various Hindu gods? In this way, the person is making offerings to millions of Hindu deities! Of course, these details are left off of the “Welcome pamphlet” in yoga centers. People are going there to stretch and relax and be energized, right?

The Kundalini Spirit

In an interview with Dave Hunt of the Berean Call (Dave is now with our Lord) the subject of the Kundalini spirit was addressed:

In spite of the advertisements and talk about health and fitness yoga’s real goal is to awaken Kundalini power, coiled like a serpent at the base of the spine, ready to spring up to manifest itself through the alleged chakras, (centers of universal force) of the body.” Now, what exactly is Kundalini yoga, or Kundalini power, for that matter?

Dave Hunt:

Well, to put it bluntly, it’s demonic. There is no way you can explain it physically, it’s a non physical force. There certainly is nothing coiled at the base of the spine, three and one-half times coiled like a serpent that’s going to spring up when you get in the proper state of consciousness, supposedly. This is the same occult power that all the occultists are in touch with, or try to be in touch with.

In yoga, the student is told to empty their minds to prepare for meditation. An empty mind is exactly what Satan likes. See what God says about meditation:

“Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer” (Psalm 19:14).
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Wow, thanks for sharing your conviction. In the past, I did glance through people share about this topic. Just that, I didn't go deep to study on this.

About the empty mind thingy, so far I didn't really get this instruction from the yoga instructor. But even the instructor did, imo it doesn't means doing that is practicing Hinduism. Actually the bible did mention about this too. Be clear minded and self-control so that you can pray (1 Pe 4: 7). Anyway, if we want, we can also mediate God's word while doing yoga smile.gif

For me, be it yoga, tai chi or qi gong, this passage come to my mind:

1 Corinthians 10:23-33 - The Believer's Freedom
23 "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive. 24 Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others. 25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26 for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it." 27 If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if anyone says to you, "This has been offered in sacrifice," then do not eat it, both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience' sake-- 29 the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours. For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience? 30 If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for? 31 So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 32 Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God-- 33 even as I try to please everybody in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.

Anyway, I will try to study more about this. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 25 2014, 11:56 AM)
I half expect someone to come in screaming,

you all are fake christian, fake teachers, you all going to end in HE double hockey stick, bla bla bla.  laugh.gif
sorry man, can't help it.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Maybe the positive thing at the end is we kinda know and understand TheAccountant more already biggrin.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 25 2014, 02:02 PM)
I once like theaccountant before. So pretty much i know how he will be in the end. Out of GOD's love to me, GOD has to break me first. Literally break me in everything imagegineable lah... including this scoliosis. I was also stubborn. I rebuke a lot of people as well. It's my hobby to rebuke people and GOD has to break me.

Now i still like to rebuke people, correcting their mind / teaching, but only when GOD authorized, then i minister. In pulpit once i yelled, but i cannot yelled everytime.  Not everything is my portion Jesus says.
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Good that you realize it at the end. But some didn't not realize it after much repeat. Maybe lower self-awareness kut. Hopefully one day he will realize his blind spot (the input we gave to him). From what I observe so far, he only machine gun shoot on people (give sharps input on what he thinks/feel) on other but never once recognized even a single input from others. Something to do with humility? hmm.gif

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post Sep 25 2014, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 25 2014, 02:28 PM)
I'm not denying you of everything, there is a place for correction and to be warned of the dangers in Life.

When you talk about 1 Corinthians 10:14-22, you need to take the entire context of it, 1 Corinthians 10:1-33, not just 14-22.

The Israelite back then worshiped multiple gods, that is why it is mentioned in there (about) they partook eating of Food Sacrifice Offered to Idols but Paul revealed them as Demons in ver 20.
IN there is the real element of idol Worshiping because the Elements ARE THERE. This is something akin to like eating Food Offered to the Deity of the Earth (Taoism). As Christians, since you already know and aware of it, then refrain from doing so, to avoid stumbling others, especially Christians who are young in the Lord (Young Spiritually not age).

And about Matthew 7:21, please don't simply quote this to your whim and fancy, understand the context first before threatening others with it. Do you know what is the will of the Father that's connected to this verse?  smile.gif
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Yeah, some of the thing he pointed out got point and biblical, just that the ways he delivers those points is as if every point people said are wrong and every point he said is 100% correct. I don't think this is way it should be. Even experience preacher will also sometimes said that this is what "I think" from what I have learned. Sometimes there are topic we can have a healthy discussion or healthy debate about it. We should learn to agree if there are some points. Say that person share about 5 points. We can say I do agree with all the point except for point 4 which I think it should be ....not quick and upfront shoot everyone down. This way we can develop a good snergy by exchanging insights we learned from the bible and thus build up each other. Sometimes we should also learn to encourage and spur the other person, not just every times also rebuke rebuke rebuke all the way or tearing down another person. The bible also mentioned that the word of God is use to teach, rebuke, correct and train (2 Tim 3: 16-17). Not just rebuke. And to do all these with LOVE which seems very much lacking in him.

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post Sep 25 2014, 05:31 PM

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Guys,

Ecc 7: 9 - Do not be quickly provoked in your spirit, for anger resides in the lap of fools.

I am listening to happy music now cool.gif biggrin.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 25 2014, 06:41 PM)
Well. Jesus wasn't exactly very nice to the pharaisees right?
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So you admit you are Jesus at last. laugh.gif

Ok la, we surrender la. You win la. We lost to you already lo. No one is true Christian except you la. cool.gif

And enough attention to you ya. We shall move on to give attention to other already lo. Or perhaps talk and discuss on some other interesting biblical theme or topic or questions. nod.gif

I think I have found the correct word already - TROLL

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtrol/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

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post Sep 25 2014, 06:04 PM

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What about sharing some good news instead? Any thankful list or encouragement you received today or this week?

For myself, has been worry and quite stress out searching for tenant (house has been vacant for almost a month). So one of my thankful list is I am thankful that I got my tenant secured yesterday. Received deposit already. Thank God smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Sep 25 2014, 07:09 PM)
yup  nod.gif , the verses above nail it right on the head. sometimes, if something gives an uncomfy vibe, then dun do it lor.

After all, Yoga is not the only thing available. There are other forms of exercises that can be used as therapy too  flex.gif .

its really up to us how we choose to respond/react to situations.

e.g. years ago i loved playing DOTA, but somehow, the 'demonic' elements made me feel very uncomfy compared to other PC games. the character/heroes had names like Abaddon ( Lord of Avernus ), Lucifer ( Doom Bringer ), spirit-breaker, & the spell-castings ( resurrection, sacrifice, etc. ). so i just gave it up for other PC games. u do have a choice of FIFA or RALLY or even Worms Armageddon u knw  tongue.gif
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Funny thing is I don't play computer games and I work in IT line biggrin.gif I need to admit that I don't really know how to play those DOTA games but I do enjoy a lot board games. Almost every Friday play board games with my buddies. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Sep 25 2014, 07:43 PM)
European board games?
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Yeah how you know? thumbup.gif Catan, Peurto Rico, Ticket to Ride and more biggrin.gif You played before? What about others?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 25 2014, 09:28 PM)
You renting in PJ?
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no la. I'm staying with my family in bandar tasik selatan.
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post Sep 25 2014, 10:40 PM

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by the way, me and iwubpreve are from the same cell group from the same church

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 25 2014, 09:45 PM)
The tenant renting a room or the whole house?
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whole unit :-D
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Sep 25 2014, 11:52 PM)
Hmm. I wonder if I can find this game in M'sia.
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sure. meeples from subang branch. or board game cafe at cheras which is cheaper. some they sell cheaper for second hand set. they said the designer of catan is the father of modern board game. those day the American can't accept the complicated board game from europe. but after they play catan, they began to accept the complicated board game from europe.

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post Sep 26 2014, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 26 2014, 01:05 AM)
ahhhh now we know.  smile.gif

Man this thread is peaceful again.  biggrin.gif
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For a short moment biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2014, 10:56 AM

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Just wondering what you guys do for living? Myself is IT and Product Management. Based in TPM. In fact already 10 years plus in IT line, from software development until support.

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