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Comes with 6 Airbags, 4 Brake Disc, 1.8L Engine with New Pure X-Tronic CVT, VSC, AutoCruise

No : fog lamp, no auto foldable side mirror, no digital aircon control... I guess that is not real life sad.gif

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post Apr 16 2014, 06:44 AM

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plain and dated looking dashboard. no 2.0 ver?
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QUOTE(j1122 @ Apr 16 2014, 06:44 AM)
plain and dated looking dashboard. no 2.0 ver?
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No more 2.0L for they new tech 1.8L more fuel efficient than older 2.0L with higher 200mn torque anymore

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 16 2014, 06:46 AM)
No more 2.0L for they new tech 1.8L more fuel efficient than older 2.0L with higher 200mn torque anymore

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I can live with this spec - how much roughly?
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post Apr 16 2014, 06:49 AM

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6 Airbags !! Look like Honda Civic 1.8, Altis 1.8 & Inokom Elantra 1.8 pathetic 2 Airbags is in trouble.

Oh Jayraptor where r u ? N brand Sentra is here & it comes with US safety specs.. lol
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Price around Rm130k or less

Depend what is the basic package from
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post Apr 16 2014, 07:31 AM

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Saw an ad stated that Rm120k [maybe for high spec with reverse camera touch screen]

Low spec,hopefully TanChong price it circa Rm100k-Rm105k.
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post Apr 16 2014, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 16 2014, 06:46 AM)
No more 2.0L for they new tech 1.8L more fuel efficient than older 2.0L with higher 200mn torque anymore

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The air-cond dials look like they are coming from a vehicle in the 80's. Doesn't look too good. However, I noticed the speedometer now shows up to 240km/h. The current Sylphy's speedometer is only limited to 180km/h.

I prefer the beige-coloured steering of the earlier versions of the Sylphy, together with the beige leather seats.
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post Apr 16 2014, 07:56 AM

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hard plastic, really....
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:22 AM

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no paddle shift for this car.
radio look cheap. else spec will consider good for this car.
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:39 AM

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Does it come with 6 air bags, VSC, rear disc brake ? What's the interior space measurement for our market ? Does it come with LED lights like the those sold in Singapore ?
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Apr 16 2014, 08:39 AM)
Does it come with 6 air bags, VSC, rear disc brake ? What's the interior space measurement for our market ? Does it come with LED lights like the those sold in Singapore ?
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by the look of the headlight, it do come with DRL but no xenon or halogen head unit hmm.gif hmm.gif


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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Apr 16 2014, 08:39 AM)
Does it come with 6 air bags, VSC, rear disc brake ? What's the interior space measurement for our market ? Does it come with LED lights like the those sold in Singapore ?
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Bro first post alr stated, why u no read??
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:53 AM

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I believe Nissan's cars are better built than Toyota and Honda but marketing wise Nissan lost to them. Correct me if I am wrong.
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Apr 16 2014, 08:51 AM)
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by the look of the headlight, it do come with DRL but no xenon or halogen head unit hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Day light for sure got alr, world wide same pattern headlight
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Apr 16 2014, 08:53 AM)
I believe Nissan's cars are better built than Toyota and Honda but marketing wise Nissan lost to them. Correct me if I am wrong.
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I hv to agree on this statement
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 09:52 AM)
Bro first post alr stated, why u no read??
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Sorry, I just notice after my post. blush.gif
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:55 AM

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the 90's called....they want their aircon knobs back tongue.gif
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Apr 16 2014, 08:54 AM)
Sorry, I just notice after my post. blush.gif
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blush.gif you are asking this because you are expecting these specs from the comparison of 2014 sylphy in neighbour countries?
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:57 AM

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as long as the aircon is cold it doesn't matter. I want safety features.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 09:56 AM)
blush.gif  you are asking this because you are expecting these specs from the comparison of 2014 sylphy in neighbour countries?
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Singapore always gets better spec cars than us, most of the time.
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post Apr 16 2014, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 16 2014, 08:55 AM)
the 90's called....they want their aircon knobs back tongue.gif
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aircon knobs same as the latio one laugh.gif
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post Apr 16 2014, 09:00 AM

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2012's released model?!?! Skipped!! Good luck owner, new model will be due really soon
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post Apr 16 2014, 09:00 AM

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Interior is soo dull.
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post Apr 16 2014, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 16 2014, 06:49 AM)
6 Airbags !! Look like Honda Civic 1.8, Altis 1.8 & Inokom Elantra 1.8 pathetic 2 Airbags is in trouble.

Oh Jayraptor where r u ? N brand Sentra is here & it comes with US safety specs.. lol
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QUOTE(garytey @ Apr 16 2014, 09:00 AM)
2012's released model?!?! Skipped!! Good luck owner, new model will be due really soon
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Apr 16 2014, 09:00 AM)
Interior is soo dull.
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This car is not for kpop minded youngster brows.gif
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post Apr 16 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(garytey @ Apr 16 2014, 10:00 AM)
2012's released model?!?! Skipped!! Good luck owner, new model will be due really soon
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now only 2014 and you said new model coming ? Accord was launched in 2012 in the USA, now Malaysia got it in late 2013. Accord new model coming also ?
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if ETCM sell under rm100k for top modal, sure sell like hot cake

if la.... LoL~
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QUOTE(blur_goofy @ Apr 16 2014, 10:22 AM)
if ETCM sell under rm100k for top modal, sure sell like hot cake

if la.... LoL~
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can you share why ETCM should sell at your price ?
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QUOTE(blur_goofy @ Apr 16 2014, 09:22 AM)
if ETCM sell under rm100k for top modal, sure sell like hot cake

if la.... LoL~
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Under 100k?
Grand livina stuff to which range?

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QUOTE(blur_goofy @ Apr 16 2014, 09:22 AM)
if ETCM sell under rm100k for top modal, sure sell like hot cake

if la.... LoL~
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C segment below 100k? Kpop car then flex.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 16 2014, 06:51 AM)
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Price around Rm130k or less

Depend what is the basic package from
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Wow... 1.8 price at RM 130k. Even if the price is for full spec, it is way too pricey for a 2 years old car.
The current 2.0 Premium also just RM 125k.


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post Apr 16 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 16 2014, 09:44 AM)
Wow... 1.8 price at RM 130k. Even if the price is for full spec, it is way too pricey for a 2 years old car.
The current 2.0 Premium also just RM 125k.
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 16 2014, 09:44 AM)
Wow... 1.8 price at RM 130k. Even if the price is for full spec, it is way too pricey for a 2 years old car.
The current 2.0 Premium also just RM 125k.
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You want get worth of money and 1day old car? Go live in Japan.
It's funny to hear that alot is making comments on "2 yrs old" thing.
So if you are going to purchase a brand new 2014 released honda city in 2016, honda should sell you at full spec 70k to be fair?
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summoning Drjayraptor rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:45 AM

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let's discuss about this new Sylphy.
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Guess they sacrificed quite a lot for the 6 airbags. Exterior mirrors got power folding?

Interior looks crap
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:55 AM

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Tell me this is the base model lol
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:59 AM

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safety features more important.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 16 2014, 07:51 AM)
The air-cond dials look like they are coming from a vehicle in the 80's. Doesn't look too good.
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i think those dials are very appeal to nissan unker market.
i love the simple aircon dials too.

but most interested in the safety spec. i guess the 6 airbag version will be the premium version.
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QUOTE(winkiedilwy @ Apr 16 2014, 10:55 AM)
Tell me this is the base model lol
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Looking at the picture TS posted, the plain HU and no leather steering, this is mostly not a premium version, could be the 1.8 baseline model.

Overseas market has 1.6 and 1.8 variants, so let's see.
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Seriously, this dashboard.. macam old 90's sentra..
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Comes with 6 Airbags, 4 Brake Disc, 1.8L Engine with New Pure X-Tronic CVT, VSC, AutoCruise

No : fog lamp, no auto foldable side mirror, no digital aircon control... I guess that is not real life sad.gif

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AutoCruise, got or not im ok with it... as i current slyphy dun hv it...

6 airbags, that is interesting.... i like it.

4 brake disc, slyphy disc brake... not very fond of it... hv bad experience as after a few change of brake pad, kena skim the disc...

no fog lamp... shit..... i nd it as i travel most of them time at night. nd the extra light...

no auto foldable side mirror, why cut it? my current model got..... this is good for me... my parking lot is small...

no digital aircon.. ok la.. this one can cut..

end of the day, nothing is perfect. but i still do liking my old model... 2.0 still with extra punch when potong kereta....


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finally no more unker looking
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 16 2014, 11:14 AM)
AutoCruise, got or not im ok with it... as i current slyphy dun hv it...

6 airbags, that is interesting.... i like it.

4 brake disc, slyphy disc brake... not very fond of it... hv bad experience as after a few change of brake pad, kena skim the disc...

no fog lamp... shit..... i nd it as i travel most of them time at night. nd the extra light...

no auto foldable side mirror, why cut it? my current model got..... this is good for me... my parking lot is small...

no digital aircon.. ok la.. this one can cut..

end of the day, nothing is perfect. but i still do liking my old model... 2.0 still with extra punch when potong kereta....
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Current Sylphy 2.0 is really a powerful car, down side is the outlook is not really widely acceptable but I'm ok with the 2012 facelift.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 11:18 AM)
Current Sylphy 2.0 is really a powerful car, down side is the outlook is not really widely acceptable but I'm ok with the 2012 facelift.
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for me is ok for the outlook as im uncle... inside is the seat, got dammit, is comfortable.. biggrin.gif

the steering wheel , damn nice to hold ......

one thing i wish that slyphy will change is the disc brake only.. others im ok with it...


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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 16 2014, 11:22 AM)
for me is ok for the outlook as im uncle... inside is the seat, got dammit, is comfortable..  biggrin.gif 

the steering wheel , damn nice to hold ......

one thing i wish that slyphy will change is the disc brake only.. others im ok with it...
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Current Sylphy Disc Brake so bad? Did you changed your brake pad from Tan Chong SC? Or changed with after market one?
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ETCM bringing in a 2 or maybe 3 years old dated car and charge a premium for it.. It's completely fine if it's fully equipped with safety features (VSC, 6 airbags, 4 disc brakes etc ) but improvement is needed in the interior....
Look at conti's interior...
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 11:24 AM)
Current Sylphy Disc Brake so bad? Did you changed your brake pad from Tan Chong SC? Or changed with after market one?
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i change 2 twice in TC, after that, for the third time, they told me nd to skim the disc. if not, there is a sound very lout whenever i brake.
so i go to my foreman he told me that the disc alrady not even. suggest me change the disc to after market one if nd a longger run of my money.

so i change mine to after market. so far, no issue on it. no skim needed. just change to any cheap pad will do also.
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reliability of contis always in doubt never improved. just look around, survey the net.
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QUOTE(Haru@Glory @ Apr 16 2014, 11:30 AM)
ETCM bringing in a 2 or maybe 3 years old dated car and charge a premium for it.. It's completely fine if it's fully equipped with safety features (VSC, 6 airbags, 4 disc brakes etc ) but improvement is needed in the interior....
Look at conti's interior...
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Edaran Tan Chong is just an Edaran (distribution) they are not Nissan Japan, how to make improvement? 
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 16 2014, 11:30 AM)
i change 2 twice in TC, after that, for the third time, they told me nd to skim the disc. if not, there is a sound very lout whenever i brake.
so i go to my foreman he told me that the disc alrady not even. suggest me change the disc to after market one if nd a longger run of my money.

so i change mine to after market. so far, no issue on it. no skim needed. just change to any cheap pad will do also.
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Oh I see, so I presumed that your car is no longer under warranty? How much is the disc cost you ?
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Oh I see, so I presumed that your car is no longer under warranty? How much is the disc cost you ?
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300++ per pcs..

yup no longer under warranty as mine is 2008 ver.
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 16 2014, 11:43 AM)
300++ per pcs..

yup no longer under warranty as mine is 2008 ver.
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oh ok, lucky its still not very painful
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 11:35 AM)
Edaran Tan Chong is just an Edaran (distribution) they are not Nissan Japan, how to make improvement? 
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wow. you seem to know a lot about ETCM rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 11:45 AM)
oh ok, lucky its still not very painful
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compare with TC pad, original is Rm180 per side, so a disc cost around 300++ is not that painful.

now days after market cheap pad only 50 per set.. mean both side... .. but last me around 6 - 9 months.. so im ok with it. and still keep my disc straight and nice.
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QUOTE(blur_goofy @ Apr 16 2014, 11:47 AM)
wow. you seem to know a lot about ETCM  rolleyes.gif
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I blow water only. But do u expect NAZA to improve Ferrari Car's Seat for you?
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 11:53 AM)
I blow water only. But do u expect NAZA to improve Ferrari Car's Seat for you?
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Since the car is CKD here, u can always amend and revise the interior and even exterior to ur liking....
if it's CBU then different story...
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 16 2014, 11:30 AM)
i change 2 twice in TC, after that, for the third time, they told me nd to skim the disc. if not, there is a sound very lout whenever i brake.
so i go to my foreman he told me that the disc alrady not even. suggest me change the disc to after market one if nd a longger run of my money.

so i change mine to after market. so far, no issue on it. no skim needed. just change to any cheap pad will do also.
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May I know exactly what is the problem with your old Disc? Causing vibration with braking? Or consuming the brake pad too fast?
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Dual zone auto climate control, rear air con vent, push start and iKey for 1.8 high spec only.


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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 16 2014, 01:10 PM)
Dual zone auto climate control, rear air con vent, push start and iKey for 1.8 high spec only.
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Great pay for premium price rclxms.gif
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Did i see 129Hp, 174Nm torque? If so, its about 10Hp less than the Civic 1.8S plus with a CVT gearbox, ure gonna find serious lag. The same problem the new Honda City is facing now. But maybe the XCVT is better?
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 11:18 AM)
Current Sylphy 2.0 is really a powerful car, down side is the outlook is not really widely acceptable but I'm ok with the 2012 facelift.
131Hp, 191Nm torque makes the current Sylphy really powerful? Compared to what? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(pobox @ Apr 16 2014, 12:40 PM)
May I know exactly what is the problem with your old Disc? Causing vibration with braking? Or consuming the brake pad too fast?
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small vibrate and loud noise. and the pad i change with Tc not even use half i change again...
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 16 2014, 01:10 PM)
Dual zone auto climate control, rear air con vent, push start and iKey for 1.8 high spec only.
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Hope the price range for this high spec on par with hyundai elantra~ wait and see then rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 16 2014, 01:29 PM)
small vibrate and loud noise. and the pad i change with Tc not even use half i change again...
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never ever skim plate.... waste money and will not get the result you want.

wanna properly solve the problem? change it

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QUOTE(blur_goofy @ Apr 16 2014, 01:47 PM)
never ever skim plate.... waste money and will not get the result you want.

wanna properly solve the problem? change it
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ya.. thats y i din skim, i just change it. after all skim is waste of time...
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Dual zone auto climate control, rear air con vent, push start and iKey for 1.8 high spec only.
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QUOTE(Haru@Glory @ Apr 16 2014, 12:09 PM)
Since the car is CKD here, u can always amend and revise the interior and even exterior to ur liking....
if it's CBU then different story...
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The main idea of CKD is to cut cost and sell at lower price and u are expecting them to redesign the interior and exterior? seriously?
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131Hp, 191Nm torque makes the current Sylphy really powerful? Compared to what?  rclxub.gif
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So u r talking about spec base on paper? Go get a test drive and share your experience.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 02:01 PM)
So u r talking about spec base on paper? Go get a test drive and share your experience.
I have. Hence my response to your statement earlier.

So which cars did you compare against when you said the current Sylphy is really powerful?
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I have. Hence my response to your statement earlier.

So which cars did you compare against when you said the current Sylphy is really powerful?
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There is no comparison required, this is from my own experience and it is really powerful enough to handle the car at this size and weight.

Ask the rest of the Sylphy owners here, who is gonna tell u the current 2.0 Sylphy is underpower?
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 02:00 PM)
The main idea of CKD is to cut cost and sell at lower price and u are expecting them to redesign the interior and exterior? seriously?
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Look at wat happened to Toyota @@...
and also da Almera... the interior differs on market...
and i'm not requesting for re designation of the interior but jz to add more accessories and gadgets thats all..
redesigning exterior is impossible though..
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Look at wat happened to Toyota @@...
and also da Almera... the interior differs on market...
and i'm not requesting for re designation of the interior but jz to add more accessories and gadgets thats all..
redesigning exterior is impossible though..
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For CKD cars in Malaysia, the best u can get (talking about different "interior" compared to other countries) are Touchscreen GPS, diff rim, diff grill, different headlamp and taillamp, skirting and spoilers. All are mostly minor cosmetic "enhancement" . The only thing we should ask for is better quality control for CKD vehicles, at least no stupid assembly problems that causing negative users experience.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 02:15 PM)
For CKD cars in Malaysia, the best u can get (talking about different "interior" compared to other countries) are Touchscreen GPS, diff rim, diff grill, different headlamp and taillamp, skirting and spoilers. All are mostly minor cosmetic "enhancement" . The only thing we should ask for is better quality control for CKD vehicles, at least no stupid assembly problems that causing negative users experience.
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True bro.. but the most important aspect is still safety.. How can VSC & 6 airbags is not a standard in every new car...
Absolutely unacceptable...
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 02:07 PM)
There is no comparison required, this is from my own experience and it is really powerful enough to handle the car at this size and weight.

Ask the rest of the Sylphy owners here, who is gonna tell u the current 2.0 Sylphy is underpower?
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im the owners, 2008 ver slyphy. i can say is not underpower
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 16 2014, 02:26 PM)
im the owners, 2008 ver slyphy. i can say is not underpower
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Exactly, power to weight ratio for current slyphy is in top notch especially the low end torque, quite juicy if not compare to turbo engine. On paper, I never trust 100% on the power output and torque output given, that the problem why Kimchi car can always achieve highest power output and higher torque compare same engine capacity. Real time vs paper data, which make more sense?
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Actually I'm the current Sylphy owner also.

If you ask me under power?

There is no such thing.. I would agree on delay pickup it is real life.
After reach RPM from 2k to be quite smooth ride with higher torque for climb up hill.

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 16 2014, 02:44 PM)
Actually I'm the current Sylphy owner also.

If you ask me under power?

There is no such thing.. I would agree on delay pickup it is real life.
After reach RPM from 2k to be quite smooth ride with higher torque for climb up hill.
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Appreciate your user experience. pickup delay before 2K RPM is most like related to the CVT natural behavior.

Anyone that wanted for a 2.0 Sylphy are advised to purchase it now, otherwise that will be too late, currently got 13K discount if not mistaken and the current Sylphy interior material quality is really above average if u ask me smile.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 02:07 PM)
There is no comparison required, this is from my own experience and it is really powerful enough to handle the car at this size and weight.

Ask the rest of the Sylphy owners here, who is gonna tell u the current 2.0 Sylphy is underpower?
Now this is where you are contradicting yourself a bit. biggrin.gif

Earlier you said 'really powerful'. But now you are saying 'really powerful enough'. Really powerful and powerful enough are 2 totally different things. I agree that the Sylphy is powerful enough for its body weight but is surely not 'really powerful'. Wrong choice of words i guess.

And somehow ure also saying that i claimed the Sylphy is 'underpowered'. Did i ever say it was underpowered? Nope.

Trust that has cleared the confusion.


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 16 2014, 03:35 PM)
Now this is where you are contradicting yourself a bit.  biggrin.gif

Earlier you said 'really powerful'. But now you are saying 'really powerful enough'. Really powerful and powerful enough are 2 totally different things. I agree that the Sylphy is powerful enough for its body weight but is surely not 'really powerful'. Wrong choice of words i guess. 

And somehow ure also saying that i claimed the Sylphy is 'underpowered'. Did i ever say it was underpowered? Nope.

Trust that has cleared the confusion.
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come on kid, make the discussion constructive, please dont bash here and there. I said it is powerful and I'm still saying that it is. Period.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 03:11 PM)
Appreciate your user experience. pickup delay before 2K RPM is most like related to the CVT natural behavior.

Anyone that wanted for a 2.0 Sylphy are advised to purchase it now, otherwise that will be too late, currently got 13K discount if not mistaken and the current Sylphy interior material quality is really above average if u ask me smile.gif
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Dunno how much enjoy for my each times ride brows.gif

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Quiet and foot brake and more spacious

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Dunno how much enjoy for my each times ride brows.gif

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Quiet and foot brake and more spacious
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wow, I have been looking for the brown leather interior actual picture for quite sometime! nice matching with the brown walnut biggrin.gif

More picture of the brown leather seat please biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 03:55 PM)
wow, I have been looking for the brown leather interior actual picture for quite sometime! nice matching with the brown walnut biggrin.gif

Ok good enough later you getting high smile.gif
More picture of the brown leather seat please biggrin.gif
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Exterior look still sexy

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 16 2014, 03:52 PM)
Dunno how much enjoy for my each times ride brows.gif

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Quiet and foot brake and more spacious
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we have the same taste thumbup.gif

have the exact same leather seat color, took the Luxury one instead cos didn't need the keyless entry

and its a very nice car, i'd say quite powerful though a bit makan minyak :sweatL
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 03:39 PM)
come on kid, make the discussion constructive, please dont bash here and there. I said it is powerful and I'm still saying that it is. Period.
Kid? doh.gif

It is constructive. You made a mistake in your choice of words which gave a totally different meaning. Period back. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 16 2014, 03:52 PM)
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Quiet and foot brake and more spacious
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Is this the stock interior of the Nissan Sylphy everything original? I like the brown leather seats, very nice indeed. However, the wooden strip on the dashboard, not really to my taste. ALthough the finish is the same as the earlier versions of the Sylphy, I feel the wooden strip matches with the beige panels and beige leather seats better. Anyway a matter of taste. This wooden strip adds the "uncle" look to the car. In the Camry, the wooden strip is glossy, which looks even more "uncle" to me.

Though, I would still think the brown leather seats look very nice indeed with a touch of elegance. Not many vehicles come in this luxurious brown finish. I have seen the similar brown leather on Lexus and Volvo only.

Here is a picture of my old Sylphy sold about 9 months ago.

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Nice bodykits... but the current Sylphy I dislike most is the headlamp and wooden strip in the interior. The others was ok. smile.gif

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Exterior look still sexy

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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 16 2014, 09:08 AM)
This car is not for kpop minded youngster  brows.gif
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Bro, I'm not kpop youngsters, but I know dull interior or not. That's one of the factor that I choose pug 308 instead of FFocus (last gen)

But if this interior is you cup of tea, I have no problem with that
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Apr 17 2014, 11:07 AM)
Bro, I'm not kpop youngsters, but I know dull interior or not. That's one of the factor that I choose pug 308 instead of FFocus (last gen)

But if this interior is you cup of tea, I have no problem with that
Yes most ppl think that only youngsters will not like the interior. Im not some kid as well and even i dont like the interior. Really old fashioned and uncle looking. Even the exterior design isnt catchy. Even the fugly Camry looks better in this aspect.

But the Sylphy is a very comfortable car to be in. Very good legroom, good sound insulation and comfortable suspension. If you want comfort, this is the car to go for if u can sacrifice looks. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Apr 17 2014, 11:07 AM)
Bro, I'm not kpop youngsters, but I know dull interior or not. That's one of the factor that I choose pug 308 instead of FFocus (last gen)

But if this interior is you cup of tea, I have no problem with that
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 17 2014, 11:17 AM)
Yes most ppl think that only youngsters will not like the interior. Im not some kid as well and even i dont like the interior. Really old fashioned and uncle looking. Even the exterior design isnt catchy. Even the fugly Camry looks better in this aspect.

But the Sylphy is a very comfortable car to be in. Very good legroom, good sound insulation and comfortable suspension. If you want comfort, this is the car to go for if u can sacrifice looks.  biggrin.gif
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I have to agree that the interior is towards uncle design. My first time ride on this sylphy was back to 2011 and I have the same feeling on the interior the very first moment I stepped in the car but as soon as I tested the ride comfort and good NVH, the outlook and Interior can be "ignored" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 17 2014, 11:41 AM)
I have to agree that the interior is towards uncle design. My first time ride on this sylphy was back to 2011 and I have the same feeling on the interior the very first moment I stepped in the car but as soon as I tested the ride comfort and good NVH, the outlook and Interior can be "ignored" laugh.gif
If Nissan can just redesign the dashboard to a more futuristic design, it should be sufficient.
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sorry...honda still look better...........the Interior look like 10 year old uncle car

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Those young ppls won't realise what an used hard money to pay for installment every months.
Most of time think for new design and more sporty looks can be win for all smile.gif

Even my another one sentra n16 still not outdated yet.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 17 2014, 07:51 AM)
Is this the stock interior of the Nissan Sylphy everything original? I like the brown leather seats, very nice indeed. However, the wooden strip on the dashboard, not really to my taste. ALthough the finish is the same as the earlier versions of the Sylphy, I feel the wooden strip matches with the beige panels and beige leather seats better. Anyway a matter of taste. This wooden strip adds the "uncle" look to the car. In the Camry, the wooden strip is glossy, which looks even more "uncle" to me.

Though, I would still think the brown leather seats look very nice indeed with a touch of elegance. Not many vehicles come in this luxurious brown finish. I have seen the similar brown leather on Lexus and Volvo only.

Here is a picture of my old Sylphy sold about 9 months ago.

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How much you sold your sylphy for? Why you sell it?
There are a lot of used sylphy in the market, with the price as low as 60k for a 3-4yrs old car which i am considering as well. Lower than equivalent T and H cars asked for.
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QUOTE(commanderz @ Apr 17 2014, 11:54 AM)
sorry...honda still look better...........the Interior look like 10 year old uncle car
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You dont have to feel sorry, the Sylphy owners are majority very glad of the purchase I believe.
You should feel sorry that you have missed out a great car by judging on the surface.
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How much you sold your sylphy for? Why you sell it?
There are a lot of used sylphy in the market, with the price as low as 60k for a 3-4yrs old car which i am considering as well. Lower than equivalent T and H cars asked for.
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No doubt Nissan RV is below average compared to H and T. If you are looking for used Sylphy I suggest you to purchase those within Nissan Warranty for peace of mind. Too bad currently Nissan has temporary stopped the Warranty Extension program, otherwise paying additional RM1K++ for 2 years warranty extension should be a good option for 2nd hand car buyer, just like what my ex-manager did.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 17 2014, 12:35 PM)
Those young ppls won't realise what an used hard money to pay for installment every months.
Most of time think for new design and more sporty looks can be win for all smile.gif

Even my another one sentra n16 still not outdated yet.

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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 17 2014, 12:49 PM)
You dont have to feel sorry, the Sylphy owners are majority very glad of the purchase I believe.
You should feel sorry that you have missed out a great car by judging on the surface.
Besides Proton and Perodua, can you tell me which recent new car model was not majority liked by their own owners?
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Besides Proton and Perodua, can you tell me which recent new car model was not majority liked by their own owners?
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From my network, VW mechatronic complains, Honda City 2006 CVT problem, Forte high fuel consumption, VW Polo TSI DSG.

Those are from my friends and colleagues, not to bash the car brand or model.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 17 2014, 01:24 PM)
From my network, VW mechatronic complains, Honda City 2006 CVT problem, Forte high fuel consumption, VW Polo TSI DSG.
Those are from my friends and colleagues, not to bash the car brand or model.
Common la friend. Ure refering to issues with the models. Does this mean that majority of those owners are generally not satisfied with their cars?

Porsche issued a worldwide recall this year to all 911 GT3's due to a serious fire risk. Does this mean that MAJORITY of Porsche owners are NOT SATISFIED with their cars? doh.gif
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Common la friend. Ure refering to issues with the models. Does this mean that majority of those owners are generally not satisfied with their cars?

Porsche issued a worldwide recall this year to all 911 GT3's due to a serious fire risk. Does this mean that MAJORITY of Porsche owners are NOT SATISFIED with their cars?  doh.gif
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Lets continue to discuss about Sylphy related matters, do not off topic too much, if you would like to discuss about this comparison thingy on every statement that I made, I suggest that you create a new thread and discuss over there.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 17 2014, 01:35 PM)
Lets continue to discuss about Sylphy related matters, do not off topic too much, if you would like to discuss about this comparison thingy on every statement that I made, I suggest that you create a new thread and discuss over there.
Well we are discussing the Sylphy. But i dont quite agree with some of your generalised statements. Its actually a bit misleading.
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Well we are discussing the Sylphy. But i dont quite agree with some of your generalised statements. Its actually a bit misleading.
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well just abit curious on it... r u anyway a slyphy owner?
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1.8E - RM 115k
1.8VL - RM 125k

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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 17 2014, 01:57 PM)
well just abit curious on it... r u anyway a slyphy owner?
Nope. Do i need to be one?
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 17 2014, 02:22 PM)
Nissan Sylphy

1.8E - RM 115k
1.8VL - RM 125k
Difference in specs?
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 17 2014, 02:22 PM)
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1.8E - RM 115k
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Damn, the 2014 model looks very pleasing to the eye!
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 17 2014, 02:22 PM)
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1.8E - RM 115k
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If this is the actual price, it is quite attractive ya, but have to see the actual spec first biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 17 2014, 12:35 PM)
Those young ppls won't realise what an used hard money to pay for installment every months.
Most of time think for new design and more sporty looks can be win for all smile.gif

Even my another one sentra n16 still not outdated yet.

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How young is your Sylphy now? Looks like it is less than 1 year on the road right?
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Nope. Do i need to be one?
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No man... is just curiosity kill the cats. due to ur exprience talks, i was thinking u r one of the owner. and maybe we met before in tc sc. thats all.. cheers man.. not hard feelings. after all at here we are just to share and discuss. not bash around right? i believe that from discussion we share alots of knowledge thus we know what is good for our ride.
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 17 2014, 02:22 PM)
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Wow ! very competitive price, million rupiah question does 1.8E equipped with 6 airbags ?
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No man... is just curiosity kill the cats. due to ur exprience talks, i was thinking u r one of the owner. and maybe we met before in tc sc. thats all.. cheers man.. not hard feelings. after all at here we are just to share and discuss. not bash around right? i believe that from discussion we share alots of knowledge thus we know what is good for our ride.
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Hi bro, did you changed your CVT oil yet for your sylphy?
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Hi bro, did you changed your CVT oil yet for your sylphy?
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changed twice. another 30k for the third. any recommend? previous twice i did in tc sc. now consider to do outside... buy oil in tc n do at outside??
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 17 2014, 02:41 PM)
No man... is just curiosity kill the cats. due to ur exprience talks, i was thinking u r one of the owner. and maybe we met before in tc sc. thats all.. cheers man.. not hard feelings. after all at here we are just to share and discuss. not bash around right? i believe that from discussion we share alots of knowledge thus we know what is good for our ride.
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QUOTE(elvatra @ Apr 17 2014, 02:48 PM)
changed twice.  another 30k for the third. any recommend? previous twice i did in tc sc. now consider to do outside... buy oil in tc n do at outside??
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Oh may I know on what mileage you already changed the CVT oil?

For CVT oil change I think better spend extra money to service at TC since its gearbox thingy and I believe you don't want to risk servicing it outside. Heard few cases that ppl servicing their CVT oil change at 3rd party service center and got screwed with AT oil and things like that.
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Oh may I know on what mileage you already changed the CVT oil?

For CVT oil change I think better spend extra money to service at TC since its gearbox thingy and I believe you don't want to risk servicing it outside. Heard few cases that ppl servicing their CVT oil change at 3rd party service center and got screwed with AT oil and things like that.
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100k ++ eveyr 40k i change once...
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100k ++ eveyr 40k i change once...
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Wow ! very competitive price, million rupiah question does 1.8E equipped with 6 airbags ?
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Wow ! very competitive price, million rupiah question does 1.8E equipped with 6 airbags ?
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Posted earlier the leaflet showing 6 SRS Airbag is standard.
Highlight only for 1.8VL - Dual zone auto climate control, rear air con vent, push start and iKey.

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Well the new Sylphy is surely much better looking than the current model. At least from the outside. biggrin.gif
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better looking than previous sylphy but ugly looking interior.
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gila slow poke malaysia dapat. almost 2 full years since china had them.
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Hi spec maybe got free reverse camera,touchscreen HU with GPS,leather seat,DRL...on top of said Dual aircond zone,push start i key..

Is it worth extra Rm10k ?

If pricing for low spec at Rm115k,then very competetive with Altis 1.8 and Civic 1.8...

For start,new Sylphy got advantage on 6 airbags and TCS in Low Spec [pending for official release by Nissan]

Hopefully New Sylphy came with package 10k km service interval and free service as well as 5 years warranty [just like Honda package]

Of course range of upgrade options yet to be seen.

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QUOTE(salam03 @ Apr 17 2014, 06:21 PM)
Hi spec  maybe got free reverse camera,touchscreen HU with GPS,leather seat,DRL...on top of said Dual aircond zone,push start i key..

Is it worth extra Rm10k ?

If pricing for low spec at Rm115k,then very competetive with Altis 1.8 and Civic 1.8...

For start,new Sylphy got advantage on 6 airbags and TCS in Low Spec [pending for official release by Nissan]

Hopefully New Sylphy came with package 10k km service interval and free service as well as 5 years warranty [just like Honda package]

Of course range of upgrade options yet to be seen.
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I did mine interval every 10k serving, just use full syn oil only.

Free 5 yrs warranty to be slow waiting.
In the catolog has mention on 3 yrs or 100km
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QUOTE(crayzee @ Apr 17 2014, 12:43 PM)
How much you sold your sylphy for? Why you sell it?
There are a lot of used sylphy in the market, with the price as low as 60k for a 3-4yrs old car which i am considering as well. Lower than equivalent T and H cars asked for.
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I sold my 5-year old car to a 2nd hand dealer for RM62k. I would say the mileage on my vehicle is very low, just a shade below 50,000km. Yes, Nissan resale is usually lower than Toyota and Honda, but not my much. Comfort-wise I would think the Nissan is better than Honda. Sold it because I wanted something different.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 17 2014, 07:34 PM)
I sold my 5-year old car to a 2nd hand dealer for RM62k. I would say the mileage on my vehicle is very low, just a shade below 50,000km. Yes, Nissan resale is usually lower than Toyota and Honda, but not my much. Comfort-wise I would think the Nissan is better than Honda. Sold it because I wanted something different.
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Do you change to Civic?

Read few review from Australia..the new sylphy got low score in handling department...even lose out to Kia Forte.

if not mistaken comparison betweeen New Sylphy/Civic/Mazda 3/Forte Cerato/Dodge Dart in one of online auto review in Australia.
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gila slow poke malaysia dapat. almost 2 full years since china had them.
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from the spec picture, they didn't mention about touchscreen, gps and reverse camera (high spec)......

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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 17 2014, 04:44 PM)
Posted earlier the leaflet showing 6 SRS Airbag is standard.
Highlight only for 1.8VL - Dual zone auto climate control, rear air con vent, push start and iKey.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Then definitely Civic & Elantra killer (Both 2 bijih airbags nia).

Very funny leh ! Why nobody complaints Elantra also come into Malaysia market very late, we still using old Kia Caren aka Rondo despise new Caren already launch 2 years ago, Accent also no where to be seen, worse still 2 genaration older Citra still in the market.




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QUOTE(kskoay @ Apr 17 2014, 11:37 PM)
from the spec picture, they didn't mention about touchscreen, gps and reverse camera (high spec)......

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only 4.3inch display screen inside the car....too bad....
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the diagrams does mention that rear view camera is available for upper spec
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Apr 17 2014, 11:37 PM)
from the spec picture, they didn't mention about touchscreen, gps and reverse camera (high spec)......

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Guess here is it.
http://paultan.org/2014/04/18/dnew-nissan-...t-drive-report/

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It doesn't seem like a touchscreen to me. Think it just screen for reverse camera.
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I think i quite like this new Sylphy. Clearly a few steps above the previous models. Much better external design and seems that Nissan have in fact redesigned the dashboard. And with its excellent comfort levels and ample legroom, i think this new Sylphy might actually do better than its rivals in the C segment.

Cant wait to test drive and check out the revised Xtronic CVT.

Any idea where in KL?
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Mazda 3 CBU at 139k... who will buy the 1.8VL? 9k more can get 2.0 skyactive and much nicer interior+exterior...
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Apr 18 2014, 10:06 AM)
Mazda 3 CBU at 139k... who will buy the 1.8VL? 9k more can get 2.0 skyactive and much nicer interior+exterior...
Did you get your math correct? 139K vs 125K is 14K difference. Yes the Mazda3 has a more powerful 2.0L engine but it doesnt have the specs and the comfort levels that the Sylphy offers for sure.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 18 2014, 10:27 AM)
Did you get your math correct? 139K vs 125K is 14K difference. Yes the Mazda3 has a more powerful 2.0L engine but it doesnt have the specs and the comfort levels that the Sylphy offers for sure.
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And 1 more thing is tc aka tan chong alway like to give impressive discount when reach certain period which mazda never do. So for those interested to buy this car may wait for a period to get a good discount on it.
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QUOTE(obs5279 @ Apr 18 2014, 11:31 AM)
And 1 more thing is tc aka tan chong alway like to give impressive discount when reach certain period which mazda never do. So for those interested to buy this car may wait for a period to get a good discount on it.
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If wan wait for discount, at least have to wait till year end I guess.
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Apr 18 2014, 08:49 AM)
only 4.3inch display screen inside the car....too bad....
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damn, the gap between E and VL is huge.
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Good car overall, definitely an improvement over its predecessor.

But the small tiny-ish screen is really a turn off. Really Nissan? At this day and age?
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Guys .. professor jay have not given his speech yet ?

Im cant wait to hear from him ... this should be interesting ..

Looking at the review from paultan .. the New MRA8DE engine doesnt looks good at all according to professor jay classification ... it can only do max power at 3600 rpm ... where else professor jay's Forte can do 90% of its power at 1600 rpm ... what a ....
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM)
Guys .. professor jay have not given his speech yet ?

Im cant wait to hear from him ... this should be interesting ..

Looking at the review from paultan .. the New MRA8DE engine doesnt looks good at all according to professor jay classification ... it can only do max power at 3600 rpm ... where else professor jay's Forte can do 90% of its power at 1600 rpm ... what a ....
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM)
Guys .. professor jay have not given his speech yet ?

Im cant wait to hear from him ... this should be interesting ..

Looking at the review from paultan .. the New MRA8DE engine doesnt looks good at all according to professor jay classification ... it can only do max power at 3600 rpm ... where else professor jay's Forte can do 90% of its power at 1600 rpm ... what a ....
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Non-foldable rear seats, in spite of having a large boot space.

Big minus point for family-men (its target segment) who might just want to own a single car or don't have have another car that can carry long items.
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QUOTE(jackbanner @ Apr 18 2014, 02:43 PM)
Seems that you need the advice of jay rclxms.gif
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y not ?
everyone loves jay ..
he has all the information in the world .. we just need him to split it out ..

something we learned from jay ...

4G18 (waja engine) .. are alluminium
SP4H / SP4E (campro) .. are made by China people
Lancer GT (Thailand spec) .. has a 50kg antiroll bar .. yes you read it right.. 50kg .
and for sure .. that his Forte 1.6L engine can produce 90% of torque at 1600 rpm .. yes.. it is an NA engine !! thumbup.gif GOOD STUFF man!
Turbo turbine does not need to spool up .. it just like a click.. there you got your boost !!

All those information are verfied by his automotive professional frens .. thumbup.gif

We need his advice for sure man ! ..
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come in professor dr. jayraptor to giving speech for today's class about N brand subject.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
y not ?
everyone loves jay ..
he has all the information in the world .. we just need him to split it out ..

something we learned from jay ...

4G18 (waja engine) .. are alluminium
SP4H / SP4E (campro) .. are made by China people
Lancer GT (Thailand spec) .. has a 50kg antiroll bar .. yes you read it right.. 50kg .
and for sure .. that his Forte 1.6L engine can produce 90% of torque at 1600 rpm .. yes.. it is an NA engine !!  thumbup.gif  GOOD STUFF man!
Turbo turbine does not need to spool up .. it just like a click.. there you got your boost !!

All those information are verfied by his automotive professional frens ..  thumbup.gif

We need his advice for sure man ! ..
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siapa tu  rclxub.gif
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WOI!

come lowyat dunno who is professor jayraptor ??

yao mou gau chorrr ahhh ... doh.gif
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WOI!

come lowyat dunno who is professor jayraptor ??

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lol, memang tak tau, but must be superman looking at the quotes
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lol, memang tak tau, but must be superman looking at the quotes
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
y not ?
everyone loves jay ..
he has all the information in the world .. we just need him to split it out ..

something we learned from jay ...

4G18 (waja engine) .. are alluminium
SP4H / SP4E (campro) .. are made by China people
Lancer GT (Thailand spec) .. has a 50kg antiroll bar .. yes you read it right.. 50kg .
and for sure .. that his Forte 1.6L engine can produce 90% of torque at 1600 rpm .. yes.. it is an NA engine !!  thumbup.gif  GOOD STUFF man!
Turbo turbine does not need to spool up .. it just like a click.. there you got your boost !!

All those information are verfied by his automotive professional frens ..  thumbup.gif

We need his advice for sure man ! ..
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Test driven the Sylphy E spec at Puchong about a hour ago.
My feedback:

-No smart key, conventional 1 piece key with remote buttons.

-Headlamp casing with Daylight part but no LED lit (not sure if can install aftermarket LED bulbs to make it works) pretty strange for this part.

-No electronic side mirror.

-6 airbags and those Traction control and VDC thingy. All comes standard.

-optional nearly RM4000 GPS touchscreen with reverse camera (Potong kuat)

-Surprisingly responsive CVT, low end power is impressive for me but I still prefer the old CVT which provide "smoother" pickup.

-Did a U-turn and the turning radius is quite good. (dun ask me how good lol)

-Car body feels more stiff compared to old Sylphy.

-Steering comes standard with multimedia control.

-Meter looks cheap before meter lights up but looks nice after lights up with white lights across the panel.

-No leather seat for E spec but seat's comfort level is not bad.

-No rear aircond vent for E spec.

-Soft plastic on dashboard and top part of the internal door frame. The rest are harder type of plastic.

-Aircond dial feels cheap and rattling when used.

-NVH feel like old one is better but I cant be sure as the test drive route was quite bumpy and bad condition.

-"Luxury" level decreased if you ask me. Maybe the high spec could be better.

-Boot size claimed as 510L but only looks tall and not as wide as I thought it will be.

-RM115K and RM125K for the 2 variants respectively.

-waiting period of E spec is 2 weeks and 2 months for high spec.

-CBU from Thailand KAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 18 2014, 05:54 PM)
Test driven the Sylphy E spec at Puchong about a hour ago.
My feedback:

-No smart key, conventional 1 piece key with remote buttons.

-Headlamp casing with Daylight part but no LED lit (not sure if can install aftermarket LED bulbs to make it works) pretty strange for this part.

-No electronic side mirror.

-6 airbags and those Traction control and VDC thingy. All comes standard.

-optional nearly RM4000 GPS touchscreen with reverse camera (Potong kuat)

-Surprisingly responsive CVT, low end power is impressive for me but I still prefer the old CVT which provide "smoother" pickup.

-Did a U-turn and the turning radius is quite good. (dun ask me how good lol)

-Car body feels more stiff compared to old Sylphy.

-Steering comes standard with multimedia control.

-Meter looks cheap before meter lights up but looks nice after lights up with white lights across the panel.

-No leather seat for E spec but seat's comfort level is not bad.

-No rear aircond vent for E spec.

-Soft plastic on dashboard and top part of the internal door frame. The rest are harder type of plastic.

-Aircond dial feels cheap and rattling when used.

-NVH feel like old one is better but I cant be sure as the test drive route was quite bumpy and bad condition.

-"Luxury" level decreased if you ask me. Maybe the high spec could be better.

-Boot size claimed as 510L but only looks tall and not as wide as I thought it will be.

-RM115K and RM125K for the 2 variants respectively.

-waiting period of E spec is 2 weeks and 2 months for high spec.

-CBU from Thailand KAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP
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Thanks your feedback and personal input detailed
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welcome man, the lower spec with 16" rim is already not very impressive with the NVH as compared to the old Sylphy (hope I got this feel right lol), I was wondering how will that be for the high spec with 17" rim, that could be a bad idea tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 18 2014, 06:07 PM)
welcome man, the lower spec with 16" rim is already not very impressive with the NVH as compared to the old Sylphy (hope I got this feel right lol), I was wondering how will that be for the high spec with 17" rim, that could be a bad idea tongue.gif
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Yap I was agree for the NVH will be not really good than current one.

That is feedback from s'pore owner.

Current one 60% made from Japan & 40% from m'sia & Thailand with china.

New one fully 80% made from Thailand and 20% from Japan & china

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Im not too sure if the iso fix is corect. Cause can see 3rd hook. But cannot feel the seat hooks.
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QUOTE(salam03 @ Apr 17 2014, 07:49 PM)
Do you change to Civic?

Read few review from Australia..the new sylphy got low score in handling department...even lose out to Kia Forte.

if not mistaken comparison betweeen New Sylphy/Civic/Mazda 3/Forte Cerato/Dodge Dart in one of online auto review in Australia.
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Changed to Ford Focus.

The first batch of the Sylphy is on 195/65R15 tyres and comfort-tuned suspension. As such, the handling and cornering are severely compromised. Though I read the current batch of the Sylphy are on 60R16 and 50R17 so handling should be better. Still, Nissan vehicles are not known for handling but comfort. Comfort-wise the Sylphy scores very high marks in my book.
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Additional info that worth mentioning.
Low spec using hand brake, high spec using foot brake.
Car lock n unlock with beep sound
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
y not ?
everyone loves jay ..
he has all the information in the world .. we just need him to split it out ..

something we learned from jay ...

4G18 (waja engine) .. are alluminium
SP4H / SP4E (campro) .. are made by China people
Lancer GT (Thailand spec) .. has a 50kg antiroll bar .. yes you read it right.. 50kg .
and for sure .. that his Forte 1.6L engine can produce 90% of torque at 1600 rpm .. yes.. it is an NA engine !!  thumbup.gif  GOOD STUFF man!
Turbo turbine does not need to spool up .. it just like a click.. there you got your boost !!

All those information are verfied by his automotive professional frens ..  thumbup.gif

We need his advice for sure man ! ..
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Just checked out the 1.8E car. Seems like paying RM10k is really worth it as I asked what is the different and salesperson highlight it out.
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Apr 19 2014, 09:51 AM)
Just checked out the 1.8E car. Seems like paying RM10k is really worth it as I asked what is the different and salesperson highlight it out.
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so is this car worth considering?

i have booked a city V spec but after test driving the sylphy, i am keen to go for this instead, high spec 125k.

not sure worth the 35k extra... for a bigger different segment car

what is the fuel consumption like?




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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Apr 19 2014, 05:49 PM)
so is this car worth considering?

i have booked a city V spec but after test driving the sylphy, i am keen to go for this instead, high spec 125k.

not sure worth the 35k extra... for a bigger different segment car

what is the fuel consumption like?
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Whether the car is worth the money, only you can answer that yourself since it is subjective and depends on personal preference and priorities.

In my book, City and Vios are only good only if you want low fuel consumption. If you want power and better handling, the Proton Preve Turbo beats them at RM70k.

The current(older generation) Sylphy 2.0-litre model is not very fuel efficient when it is stuck in crawling traffic. The new 1.8-litre Sylphy may be more fuel efficient but will still not match the City/Vios. However, if you want comfort in larger space and soft plush leather seats, smooth drive and quietness, the City won't match the C-segment.

If you are looking into the Sylphy, might as well consider the Altis too. Depending on your priorities and personal taste. I find the interior and exterior of the Altis to be ahead of the new Sylphy.
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But I have to say, Nissan vehicles, Sylphy and upwards(Teana) are comfortable cars despite some of their weaknesses. I miss the comfortable cabin and plush leather seats, quietness and smooth drive of the Sylphy sometimes. Though I understand we cannot have everything in a car.
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the dash curve is seamless, pretty clean and sleek to me. compare to honda civic...

Sylphy:
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Civic:
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QUOTE(Alan @ Apr 19 2014, 07:07 PM)
the dash curve is seamless, pretty clean and sleek to me. compare to honda civic...

Sylphy:
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Civic:
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Sylphy more simple for most ppls can acceptable their interior design.. unlike civic more techno or hardcore design..
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Okay I have just read this review on Paul's blog and also seen the photos of both low-spec and high-spec models. http://paultan.org/2014/04/18/dnew-nissan-...t-drive-report/

The centre console of the high-spec model looks much better than the low-spec model.

High-spec :-
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Low-spec :-
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The reviews by Danny Tan, Anthony Lim and Hafriz Shah are also interesting. I pretty much concur on most if not all points presented in the review, mainly QUIETNESS of the drive which I have always stressed in the past on the Sylphy. Hence it is not a surprise that they find this new Sylphy to be a quiet car from the competitors.

Anthony Lim made a rather interesting observation on the VL high-spec vs. the E low-spec model. He actually preferred the low spec model due to its more "organic and comfortable" feel, and the nicer and comfortable steering feel. The only variable that may account for this difference is the smaller 16" wheel and larger tyres vs. the larger 17" wheel of the high-spec model. In this respect, although I have not test driven the new Sylphy, I am quite confident the low-spec model with 195/60R16 will be more comfortable and a better all rounder for this Sylphy if compared to the 205/50R17 of the high-spec model. When I owned the first batch of the Sylphy, it was on 196/65R15, even smaller wheels, and the drive is surely very comfortable. Only when cornering you need to do it like a turtle with those tyres.

Hafriz Shah's review is even more interesting as he compared the new Sylphy to the Honda Civic, Kia Cerato and Toyota Altis(and also briefly the Ford Focus which I currently own). This excert made is funny, but is a testament of the smooth and superior CVT of the Sylphy, which I fully support having driven one before:-

The Cerato’s smooth-shifting six-speed automatic gearbox is completely outclassed in comparison, both in terms of response and feel. With its 2.0 litre engine advantage it will edge forward in a drag race, for sure, but its superiority here is limited to outright speed alone. Though ultimately slower, the CVT pair feels more effortless gaining speed, with the Nissan being the more refined operator and the Toyota the quicker of the two.


Personally I think this new Sylphy is certainly very interesting. An upgrade to the old Sylphy in the exterior for sure, though I do not like the piece of spoiler on the boot of the high-spec model. As for the interior, it is also a pretty major upgrade to the current(old) Sylphy. However, the centre console, I don't know why the low-spec model gets the outdated air-cond dials. If the centre console of the low-spec model is similar to the high-spec model, it would definitely sell well, considering the low-spec model comes fully equipped with safety features(6 air-bags) also. Brilliant.

In the review, it was reported : The new Nissan Sylphy is now open for booking, with estimated prices of RM115,300 for the 1.8 E, and RM125,500 for the range-topping 1.8 VL.

High-spec model seems to be priced quite a bit higher than the low-spec E model.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 19 2014, 08:28 AM)
Additional info that worth mentioning.
Low spec using hand brake, high spec using foot brake.
Car lock n unlock with beep sound
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from Paultan pic, both same le. U sure boh?
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QUOTE(sct @ Apr 20 2014, 12:33 AM)
from Paultan pic, both same le. U sure boh?
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actually for me on foot brake more useful for space saving and does not see that ugly hand brake and made it dirty after while thumbup.gif

like mine current one feel really spacious on arm rest console
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2 din converter : http://www.ebay.com/itm/SENTRA-CAR-STEREO-...d582146&vxp=mtr

plug and play HU
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Nissan-Sentra...=item417d403a67
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QUOTE(sct @ Apr 20 2014, 12:33 AM)
from Paultan pic, both same le. U sure boh?
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I was wrong apparently
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 19 2014, 07:39 PM)
Sylphy more simple for most ppls can acceptable their interior design.. unlike civic more techno or hardcore design..
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Civic leather seat got many wrinkles. Ugly. Dashboard also made of hard plastic. Sylphy looks clean and sharp.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Apr 19 2014, 08:50 PM)
The centre console of the high-spec model looks much better than the low-spec model.

High-spec :-
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Way better.
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Altis 1.8 vs Sentra 1.8 @ Taiwan

Performance : so so cause both used 1.8L with CVT
Handling : Sentra
Material interior : Sentra
Seats : Sentra used more soft leather and back supporting quite well.
Suspension : Sentra
Navi : Sentra
Fuel : Altis
Steering wheel : sentra can feel more comfort for all time.
Noise : Both after comments like at behind window can't close as fit, you might try to close it at all rclxms.gif
Sporty : Altis
Deluxe : Sentra

Note for important thing : Altis can't well perform like climb up genting road condition, unlike sentra/Sylphy suspension can feel more soild, won't be too dangerous ride.

In malaysia
Altis 2 airbags with VCS
Sylphy : 6 airbags with VDC
Auto cruise : sylphy with std packaged
Sylphy : 16 & 17" rim for std packaged

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 21 2014, 06:31 AM)


Altis 1.8 vs Sentra 1.8 @ Taiwan

Performance : so so cause both used 1.8L with CVT
Handling : Sentra
Material interior : Sentra
Seats : Sentra used more soft leather and back supporting quite well.
Suspension : Sentra
Navi : Sentra
Fuel : Altis
Steering wheel : sentra can feel more comfort for all time.
Noise : Both after comments like at behind window can't close as fit, you might try to close it at all rclxms.gif
Sporty : Altis
Deluxe : Sentra

Note for important thing : Altis can't well perform like climb up genting road condition, unlike sentra/Sylphy suspension can feel more soild, won't be too dangerous ride.

In malaysia
Altis 2 airbags with VCS
Sylphy : 6 airbags with VDC
Auto cruise : sylphy with std packaged
Sylphy : 16 & 17" rim for std packaged
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Nice video. Both are nice cars the Altis and Sylphy. I prefer the interior of the Altis more than the Sylphy especially the straighter lines of the dashboard in comparison to the curved lines of the new Sylphy(a matter of taste), but the new Sylphy's interior is much improved from the current model and now looks much more presentable.

I noticed the boot of the Sentra(in the video) does not come with the spoiler. For me, the car looks bettter and more elegant without the small piece of spoiler that comes with the higher-spec Sylphy here in Malaysia. Again a matter of taste.

Finally, for the pricing between the Altis and Sylphy here in Malaysia, the Sylphy certainly looks better value than the Altis top spec which is about RM135k if I'm not mistaken. The top spec Sylphy should be slightly cheaper than the RM125k price tag after discount, knowing that Tan Chong always have reasonable discounts even for the launching of all-new models.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 19 2014, 07:28 AM)
Additional info that worth mentioning.
Low spec using hand brake, high spec using foot brake.
Car lock n unlock with beep sound
That foot brake is actually a bit irritating. Should have provided electric parking brake. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 21 2014, 10:22 AM)
That foot brake is actually a bit irritating. Should have provided electric parking brake.  biggrin.gif
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Correction should have been made on the above statement as both variants are using handbrake.

I still prefer "physical" brake, too much of electronic stuffs makes me feel like "unreal" blush.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Apr 21 2014, 10:27 AM)
Correction should have been made on the above statement as both variants are using handbrake.

I still prefer "physical" brake, too much of electronic stuffs makes me feel like "unreal"  blush.gif
So both have hand brake? OK then.

Well, you need to evolve with the times. Electronic brake is quite good actually. You dont need to disengage the brake when you move at traffic light stops. Its automatically disengages when you press the accelerator.

The only problem arises when you drive a car without these features after that. whistling.gif
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Yesterday went to test drive both the Altis and Sylphy, the conclusion is Slyphy has a more solid chassis and more silence than Altis. One thing I noticed on the Altis is the gear-changed for the Altis is more aggressive and sportier, but not as smooth as the Sylphy. for handling, I think both almost the same, but really much better then their last gen. But if you really want to find a winner, I would choose the Sylphy any time because of the more solid chassis which is really nice to drive, you can sense more road feedback from the chassis, but not the steering, while Altis ride is too blur and vague both chassis and steering.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 21 2014, 10:51 AM)
Yesterday went to test drive both the Altis and Sylphy, the conclusion is Slyphy has a more solid chassis and more silence than Altis. One thing I noticed on the Altis is the gear-changed for the Altis is more aggressive and sportier, but not as smooth as the Sylphy. for handling, I think both almost the same, but really much better then their last gen. But if you really want to find a winner, I would choose the Sylphy any time because of the more solid chassis which is really nice to drive, you can sense more road feedback from the chassis, but not the steering, while Altis ride is too blur and vague both chassis and steering.
How did you test handling? Where did you test both? Exact location?
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How did you test handling? Where did you test both? Exact location?
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U begin to sounds like Dr . Jayraptor ..lol

He is just a common guy who went to do some very "common" test drive, not Jeremy Clarkson or The Stig, u expect him to go Bukit Tinggi or Frazer Hills to test drive meh ? why don't as his friends to video the test drive & upload to youtube as well.

U see too much Top Gear show lah..wakakaka
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How did you test handling? Where did you test both? Exact location?
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Yup, I tested it in the same location, a few bents and corners..... btw the location I tested the Sylphy, the road condition isn't good, so easily can test the chassis and road feedback and NVH!
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good specs, but looks cheap the interior

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 21 2014, 10:51 AM)
Yesterday went to test drive both the Altis and Sylphy, the conclusion is Slyphy has a more solid chassis and more silence than Altis. One thing I noticed on the Altis is the gear-changed for the Altis is more aggressive and sportier, but not as smooth as the Sylphy. for handling, I think both almost the same, but really much better then their last gen. But if you really want to find a winner, I would choose the Sylphy any time because of the more solid chassis which is really nice to drive, you can sense more road feedback from the chassis, but not the steering, while Altis ride is too blur and vague both chassis and steering.
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Even Taiwan reviews has same opinion on the handling & chassis, next week hope got time to test out with compare my current Sylphy smile.gif)

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Civic FB vs new Sylphy in term of driving & NVH ?
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 16 2014, 06:49 AM)
6 Airbags !! Look like Honda Civic 1.8, Altis 1.8 & Inokom Elantra 1.8 pathetic 2 Airbags is in trouble.

Oh Jayraptor where r u ? N brand Sentra is here & it comes with US safety specs.. lol
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Looking for me? Do you always get into serious accident involving trucks? 2 airbags can still pass the minimum required safety.

Since no test drive yet, can only evaluate based on specs. Have you launch your Sentra yet? It's getting old the longer you wait.

the new engine MRA8DE dual VVT (79.7 x 90.1 undersquare) torque is good at 174Nm.

Looks is outdated, size wise also behind the upgraded C-segment size league, still stuck with Civic.
Wheelbase 2,700
Length x Width x Height - 4,625 x 1,760 x 1,496

The new CVT comes with larger ratio this time, at least an improvement over the previous weak gearbox. But still, it's a CVT gearbox rather than solid reliable and durable conventional advanced AT gearbox that is now superior.

If you let me choose between new Sentra or Civic, I would pick this over Civic. Compared to other C-segments, if I had money, Mazda 3 ofcourse. 2nd choice will be Elantra followed by Cerato then Focus and Altis.

Looks like your colleague FeelFree is trying hard to market the car here. New Sentra vs Altis, I'll take Altis because of its proven reliability and size. Dislike the new Sentra look that resembles obsolete Korean cars that have been phased out several years ago.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 23 2014, 11:12 AM)
Looking for me? Do you always get into serious accident involving trucks? 2 airbags can still pass the minimum required safety.

Since no test drive yet, can only evaluate based on specs. Have you launch your Sentra yet? It's getting old the longer you wait.

the new engine MRA8DE dual VVT (79.7 x 90.1 undersquare) torque is good at 174Nm.

Looks is outdated, size wise also behind the upgraded C-segment size league, still stuck with Civic.
Wheelbase 2,700
Length x Width x Height - 4,625 x 1,760 x 1,496

The new CVT comes with larger ratio this time, at least an improvement over the previous weak gearbox. But still, it's a CVT gearbox rather than solid reliable and durable conventional advanced AT gearbox that is now superior.

If you let me choose between new Sentra or Civic, I would pick this over Civic. Compared to other C-segments, if I had money, Mazda 3 ofcourse. 2nd choice will be Elantra followed by Cerato then Focus and Altis.

Looks like your colleague FeelFree is trying hard to market the car here. New Sentra vs Altis, I'll take Altis because of its proven reliability and size. Dislike the new Sentra look that resembles obsolete Korean cars that have been phased out several years ago.
What size u talking about la? Interior space the Sylphy thrashed the Civic and Altis. Have u sat in one before? Suggest you do.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 23 2014, 11:12 AM)
Looking for me? Do you always get into serious accident involving trucks? 2 airbags can still pass the minimum required safety.

Since no test drive yet, can only evaluate based on specs. Have you launch your Sentra yet? It's getting old the longer you wait.

the new engine MRA8DE dual VVT (79.7 x 90.1 undersquare) torque is good at 174Nm.

Looks is outdated, size wise also behind the upgraded C-segment size league, still stuck with Civic.
Wheelbase 2,700
Length x Width x Height - 4,625 x 1,760 x 1,496

The new CVT comes with larger ratio this time, at least an improvement over the previous weak gearbox. But still, it's a CVT gearbox rather than solid reliable and durable conventional advanced AT gearbox that is now superior.

If you let me choose between new Sentra or Civic, I would pick this over Civic. Compared to other C-segments, if I had money, Mazda 3 ofcourse. 2nd choice will be Elantra followed by Cerato then Focus and Altis.

Looks like your colleague FeelFree is trying hard to market the car here. New Sentra vs Altis, I'll take Altis because of its proven reliability and size. Dislike the new Sentra look that resembles obsolete Korean cars that have been phased out several years ago.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 23 2014, 11:12 AM)
Looking for me? Do you always get into serious accident involving trucks? 2 airbags can still pass the minimum required safety.

Since no test drive yet, can only evaluate based on specs. Have you launch your Sentra yet? It's getting old the longer you wait.

the new engine MRA8DE dual VVT (79.7 x 90.1 undersquare) torque is good at 174Nm.

Looks is outdated, size wise also behind the upgraded C-segment size league, still stuck with Civic.
Wheelbase 2,700
Length x Width x Height - 4,625 x 1,760 x 1,496

The new CVT comes with larger ratio this time, at least an improvement over the previous weak gearbox. But still, it's a CVT gearbox rather than solid reliable and durable conventional advanced AT gearbox that is now superior.

If you let me choose between new Sentra or Civic, I would pick this over Civic. Compared to other C-segments, if I had money, Mazda 3 ofcourse. 2nd choice will be Elantra followed by Cerato then Focus and Altis.

Looks like your colleague FeelFree is trying hard to market the car here. New Sentra vs Altis, I'll take Altis because of its proven reliability and size. Dislike the new Sentra look that resembles obsolete Korean cars that have been phased out several years ago.
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Why Elantra will be your 2nd choice? What is the advantage of Elantra,even in comparison to Cerato ?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 23 2014, 11:12 AM)
Looking for me? Do you always get into serious accident involving trucks? 2 airbags can still pass the minimum required safety.

Since no test drive yet, can only evaluate based on specs. Have you launch your Sentra yet? It's getting old the longer you wait.

the new engine MRA8DE dual VVT (79.7 x 90.1 undersquare) torque is good at 174Nm.

Looks is outdated, size wise also behind the upgraded C-segment size league, still stuck with Civic.
Wheelbase 2,700
Length x Width x Height - 4,625 x 1,760 x 1,496

The new CVT comes with larger ratio this time, at least an improvement over the previous weak gearbox. But still, it's a CVT gearbox rather than solid reliable and durable conventional advanced AT gearbox that is now superior.

If you let me choose between new Sentra or Civic, I would pick this over Civic. Compared to other C-segments, if I had money, Mazda 3 ofcourse. 2nd choice will be Elantra followed by Cerato then Focus and Altis.

Looks like your colleague FeelFree is trying hard to market the car here. New Sentra vs Altis, I'll take Altis because of its proven reliability and size. Dislike the new Sentra look that resembles obsolete Korean cars that have been phased out several years ago.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 23 2014, 11:12 AM)
Looking for me? Do you always get into serious accident involving trucks? 2 airbags can still pass the minimum required safety.

Since no test drive yet, can only evaluate based on specs. Have you launch your Sentra yet? It's getting old the longer you wait.

the new engine MRA8DE dual VVT (79.7 x 90.1 undersquare) torque is good at 174Nm.

Looks is outdated, size wise also behind the upgraded C-segment size league, still stuck with Civic.
Wheelbase 2,700
Length x Width x Height - 4,625 x 1,760 x 1,496

The new CVT comes with larger ratio this time, at least an improvement over the previous weak gearbox. But still, it's a CVT gearbox rather than solid reliable and durable conventional advanced AT gearbox that is now superior.

If you let me choose between new Sentra or Civic, I would pick this over Civic. Compared to other C-segments, if I had money, Mazda 3 ofcourse. 2nd choice will be Elantra followed by Cerato then Focus and Altis.

Looks like your colleague FeelFree is trying hard to market the car here. New Sentra vs Altis, I'll take Altis because of its proven reliability and size. Dislike the new Sentra look that resembles obsolete Korean cars that have been phased out several years ago.
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What crappo story u try to cook, " Only when accident with truck u need 6 air bags " U mean u can only meet accident only front collision, never meet side collision ? Euro NCAP & NHTSA specific to have side crash test, it is compulsary to past the test, u r the one who champion safety standard, so now N brand give full safety features while ur slanted H only give 2 airbags, u says doesn't matter "Such hypocrite U R". vmad.gif

Size (U wanna Compare size ?) let me show u Dr.Jayraptor Style

Wheel base

N Brand Sylphy 2700mm
Toyoda Altis 2700mm
Honta Civic 2670mm
KIAsu Cerato 2700mm
Hongtai Elantra 2700mm

Height

N Brand Sylphy 1495mm
Toyoda Altis 1460mm
Honta Civic 1435mm
KIAsu Cerato 1460mm
Hongtai Elantra 1445mm

Width

N Brand Sylphy 1760mm
Toyoda Altis 1775mm
Honta Civic 1755mm
KIAsu Cerato 1775mm
Hongtai Elantra 1775mm

This clearly show Sylphy have good space, don't forget this is overall width, so your KIAsu Cerato & Hongtai Elantra useless fluidic design may add in some unusable width.

N brand X CVT already proven to be smooth as silk, maybe u too use to your Jurassic 4AT Forte EX Kosong with steel rim that u miss out current technology... laugh.gif

Face it ! All your previous critics on Sylphy is no longer valid, 1st world spec, 1st world safety, meet US & Australia standard, bigger 1st gear, better space, more competative price, Dual VVT engine... & many more

So since now N Brand Sylphy already at par with US Sentra can be call Nissan Sylphy or not. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 23 2014, 02:13 PM)
What crappo story u try to cook, " Only when accident with truck u need 6 air bags " U mean u can only meet accident only front collision, never meet side collision ? Euro NCAP & NHTSA specific to have side crash test, it is compulsary to past the test, u r the one who champion safety standard, so now N brand give full safety features while ur slanted H only give 2 airbags, u says doesn't matter "Such hypocrite U R".  vmad.gif

Size (U wanna Compare size ?) let me show u Dr.Jayraptor Style

Wheel base

N Brand Sylphy 2700mm
Toyoda Altis 2700mm
Honta Civic 2670mm
KIAsu Cerato 2700mm
Hongtai Elantra 2700mm

Height

N Brand Sylphy 1495mm
Toyoda Altis 1460mm
Honta Civic 1435mm
KIAsu Cerato 1460mm
Hongtai Elantra 1445mm

Width

N Brand Sylphy 1760mm
Toyoda Altis 1775mm
Honta Civic 1755mm
KIAsu Cerato 1775mm
Hongtai Elantra 1775mm

This clearly show Sylphy have good space, don't forget this is overall width, so your KIAsu Cerato & Hongtai Elantra useless fluidic design may add in some unusable width.

N brand X CVT already proven to be smooth as silk, maybe u too use to your Jurassic 4AT Forte EX Kosong with steel rim that u miss out current technology... laugh.gif

Face it ! All your previous critics on Sylphy is no longer valid, 1st world spec, 1st world safety, meet US & Australia standard, bigger 1st gear, better space, more competative price, Dual VVT engine... & many more

So since now N Brand Sylphy already at par with US Sentra can be call Nissan Sylphy or not.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 23 2014, 11:21 AM)
Which part expensive and how long does it take to change? 10 years? Your Sylphy fragile CVT gearbox rosak will cost even more expensive to overhaul than conventional gearbox. Probably have to buy entire new CVT gearbox at over RM17k import from Japan.

Since Forte is easy to fix like Toyota yet reliable, sending to outside workshop is always half cheaper. Why not? When I owned Toyota also I serviced outside after proven not defective. As for your Sylphy different story, you have to worry about gearbox, that's why you stick to SC worry that things might go wrong.

Compared RV between Sylphy vs Forte, your RV already lost to dirt cheap value today due to poor demand from used car buyers. Still looking at those fake asking price rather than actual amount paid by new buyers for the car? Yes, forgot that you don't even buy used car, sure don't know much about used car market. FYI, used car market nowadays seeing the worst sales ever. Whatever brands also RV will drop a lot and only those with strong demand for used unit including Forte get proper RV. Bank loan no longer covers cars over 10 years old, cash term only.

Besides, the Forte is so practical and reliable, why bother to sell so soon? As for you, the Sylphy might be too ugly for you to look at yet too narrow and not practical inside, no wonder can't wait to sell it off. Don't worry, N-brand has high overtrade with CRA2Y discount for you when the new Sentra 1.8 is launched. But still, you'll have to fork out much more since the RV of Sylphy is that bad.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 23 2014, 07:03 PM)
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a bit stupid question...sylphy or a city?
no budget or class priority

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Apr 23 2014, 08:17 PM)
a bit stupid question...sylphy or a city?
no budget or class priority
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Apr 23 2014, 02:59 PM)
I know his next move...
U must be a nissan salesman
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Nissan Salesman I not qualified lah !

Dr . Jayraptor only allowed me being N brand lower level exec only, my job is to counter negative comments on N brand in Internet & spread feel good factor plus fake FC figure, during free time I shake leg & bodeh my manager to lobby for promotion, I personally drive a korean car but scare my company found out, so I park far away from company car park & walk to office. ..lol

Due to my low level position I can only in charge of lower quality 3rd world car called N brand (as only CBU & USA specs model qualified to use Nissan badge)..wakakaka

I am still waiting for my first pay cheque from TCM since 4 years. ..sigh
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 23 2014, 08:34 PM)
Nissan Salesman I not qualified lah !

Dr . Jayraptor only allowed me being N brand lower level exec only,  my job is to counter negative comments on N brand in Internet & spread feel good factor plus fake FC figure,  during free time I shake leg & bodeh my manager to lobby for promotion,  I personally drive a korean car but scare my company found out, so I park far away from company car park & walk to office. ..lol

Due to my low level position I can only in charge of lower quality 3rd world car called N brand (as only CBU & USA specs model qualified to use Nissan badge)..wakakaka

I am still waiting for my first pay cheque from TCM since 4 years. ..sigh
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Guys, lets keep the thread discussions mature and informative. No point flaming each other. We're all old enough to discuss like adults.
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Better than me proton salesman... At lease u deal with nissan
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My dad used to own previous model.

Is a spacious/smooth/good FC/low maintenance fee BUT boring/lack of pickup car.

CVT dam smooth. The new model comes with new CVT. Even smoother and lower the FC I guess.
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i have booked the new city but now reconsidering after driving the sylphy.

really pening .... extra rm35k....
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Apr 24 2014, 10:34 AM)
i have booked the new city but now reconsidering after driving the sylphy.
really pening .... extra rm35k....
How is the pickup and acceleration of the SYlphy compared to the City? I havent tested the Sylphy yet but the City's CVT is very sluggish.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 24 2014, 10:37 AM)
How is the pickup and acceleration of the SYlphy compared to the City? I havent tested the Sylphy yet but the City's CVT is very sluggish.
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yes... i find city sluggish too sad.gif but the test drive was too short. Will request for a longer test drive... and see. Or i am not used to a 1.5 ...

Sylphy on the other hand is much more better... It was great for me . smile.gif power, acceleration and cornering... but no touch screen display

but cant compare much 1.5 vs 1.8 .. diff segment...

i have just narrowed down to this 2 choices... see which wins...
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Apr 24 2014, 10:40 AM)
yes... i find city sluggish too sad.gif but the test drive was too short. Will request for a longer test drive... and see. Or i am not used to a 1.5 ...

Sylphy on the other hand is much more better... It was great for me . smile.gif power, acceleration and cornering... but no touch screen display

but cant compare much 1.5 vs 1.8 .. diff segment...

i have just narrowed down to this 2 choices... see which wins...
I remember when i test drove the Teana 2.0L before and found that the Xtronic CVT was actually quite alright. And the new Sylphy uses an upgraded version of the Xtronic CVT so it should be much better than the crappy City's CVT.

Anyway, the Sylphy is clearly a few steps ahead of the City 1.5V in terms of design, specs, interior space, handling, driving dynamics, etc. In fact, the only criteria which the City beats the Sylphy is its price.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 23 2014, 11:12 AM)
Looking for me? Do you always get into serious accident involving trucks? 2 airbags can still pass the minimum required safety.

Since no test drive yet, can only evaluate based on specs. Have you launch your Sentra yet? It's getting old the longer you wait.

the new engine MRA8DE dual VVT (79.7 x 90.1 undersquare) torque is good at 174Nm.

Looks is outdated, size wise also behind the upgraded C-segment size league, still stuck with Civic.
Wheelbase 2,700
Length x Width x Height - 4,625 x 1,760 x 1,496

The new CVT comes with larger ratio this time, at least an improvement over the previous weak gearbox. But still, it's a CVT gearbox rather than solid reliable and durable conventional advanced AT gearbox that is now superior.

If you let me choose between new Sentra or Civic, I would pick this over Civic. Compared to other C-segments, if I had money, Mazda 3 ofcourse. 2nd choice will be Elantra followed by Cerato then Focus and Altis.

Looks like your colleague FeelFree is trying hard to market the car here. New Sentra vs Altis, I'll take Altis because of its proven reliability and size. Dislike the new Sentra look that resembles obsolete Korean cars that have been phased out several years ago.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 24 2014, 09:26 AM)
Guys, lets keep the thread discussions mature and informative. No point flaming each other. We're all old enough to discuss like adults.
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Informative?
Then we all can just shut up. Including you.
Very true statement. Bcoz whatever we says are crap.. Including you..
The only true information is with jayraptor and his professional frens..
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 24 2014, 12:05 PM)
No test drive???? You got to be kidding me!!!!!!! By the way, I'm the Manager of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Lexus, Infiniti, BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar, Range Rover, Tesla, VW, Skoda, Opel, MG, Chevy, Buick, Jeep, Peugeot, Renault, Citroen, Holden, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Mazda............................................... too many to mention. whenever people talk about certain brand is better than your kimchi, you sure call that guy sales person of that brand, what a stupiddddddddddddddd!  doh.gif
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calm down bro, compare to last time, he will keep use safety feature to shoot N brand, but now, 10 pages 1 comment, then dunno how many pages more he will come back again, meaning is that N brand had improve alot after a greet feedback from him since 2010 till now~~ thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 23 2014, 11:34 AM)
What size u talking about la? Interior space the Sylphy thrashed the Civic and Altis. Have u sat in one before? Suggest you do.
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Sylphy interior space only give more legroom with tiny poor thigh support seats. In terms of interior width, the Sylphy is worst. Even Latio and Sentra N16 have more interior width than that crappy Sylphy. Sylphy is worst and never practical car that is big waste of money to buy and had worst resale value when comes to selling.
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QUOTE(salam03 @ Apr 23 2014, 12:12 PM)
Why Elantra will be your 2nd choice? What is the advantage of Elantra,even in comparison to Cerato ?
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Elantra looks nicer than Cerato inside out, truly a design of its own. After sales also better. Cerato only has better interior quality and gadgets/accessories. In terms of look, the Cerato looks like they overdo everything that it has weird rear lights and front headlamp with giant square grill that doesn't look like it belongs there.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 01:27 PM)
Sylphy interior space only give more legroom with tiny poor thigh support seats. In terms of interior width, the Sylphy is worst. Even Latio and Sentra N16 have more interior width than that crappy Sylphy. Sylphy is worst and never practical car that is big waste of money to buy and had worst resale value when comes to selling.
I think you need to balance your posts with some logic and maturity if you want people to take your comments seriously. Even though i own a Korean but i will never just blindly bash a Jap car for the sake of bashing. I think you should follow the same. You need to back up your points with facts and not just emotion. Saying that the Sylphy is the worst and never practical car thats a big waste of money is clearly incorrect and flawed in every aspect. Im not even bothered with resale value since it will still be better than the Koreans.

My 5 key positive points of the new Sylphy (and these are FACTS):

1) Redesigned exterior and interior which maintains its maturity and yet makes it youthful enough compared to the outgoing model
2) Better designed dashboard
3) Very good interior space for a C segment
4) Top safety specs with stability control and 6 airbags
5) Smooth shifting refined Xtronic CVT which is more powerful than even Toyota or Honda's CVT
6) Better tyres: R17 Continental ContiPremiumContact 2E
7) Max torque of 174Nm is available at lower RPM of 3,600 (previous was 191Nm at 4,400)
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 23 2014, 02:13 PM)
What crappo story u try to cook, " Only when accident with truck u need 6 air bags " U mean u can only meet accident only front collision, never meet side collision ? Euro NCAP & NHTSA specific to have side crash test, it is compulsary to past the test, u r the one who champion safety standard, so now N brand give full safety features while ur slanted H only give 2 airbags, u says doesn't matter "Such hypocrite U R".  vmad.gif

Size (U wanna Compare size ?) let me show u Dr.Jayraptor Style

Wheel base

N Brand Sylphy 2700mm
Toyoda Altis 2700mm
Honta Civic 2670mm
KIAsu Cerato 2700mm
Hongtai Elantra 2700mm

Height

N Brand Sylphy 1495mm
Toyoda Altis 1460mm
Honta Civic 1435mm
KIAsu Cerato 1460mm
Hongtai Elantra 1445mm

Width

N Brand Sylphy 1760mm
Toyoda Altis 1775mm
Honta Civic 1755mm
KIAsu Cerato 1775mm
Hongtai Elantra 1775mm

This clearly show Sylphy have good space, don't forget this is overall width, so your KIAsu Cerato & Hongtai Elantra useless fluidic design may add in some unusable width.

N brand X CVT already proven to be smooth as silk, maybe u too use to your Jurassic 4AT Forte EX Kosong with steel rim that u miss out current technology... laugh.gif

Face it ! All your previous critics on Sylphy is no longer valid, 1st world spec, 1st world safety, meet US & Australia standard, bigger 1st gear, better space, more competative price, Dual VVT engine... & many more

So since now N Brand Sylphy already at par with US Sentra can be call Nissan Sylphy or not.  thumbup.gif
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You forgot to add Mazda 3 and Focus. Now spot the difference in better arranged manner.

Wheel base
Honta Civic 2670mm
N Brand Sylphy 2700mm

Toyoda Altis 2700mm
KIAsu Cerato 2700mm
Hongtai Elantra 2700mm

Matsuda 3 2700mm
Fjord Focus 2649mm (that's why legroom space less)

Height
Honta Civic 1435mm
N Brand Sylphy 1495mm

Toyoda Altis 1460mm
KIAsu Cerato 1460mm
Hongtai Elantra 1445mm

Matsuda 3 1450mm
Fjord Focus 1466mm

Width
Honta Civic 1755mm
N Brand Sylphy 1760mm

Toyoda Altis 1775mm
KIAsu Cerato 1775mm
Hongtai Elantra 1775mm

Matsuda 3 1795mm
Fjord Focus 1824mm

It shows your new Sentra only upgraded to be in the league of Civic. The Altis, Cerato, Matsuda 3 and Elantra have upgraded to be in wider stance league while Focus is in a league of its own with being widest of them all. Focus is made for performance rather than family oriented sedan like Pug308. The new Sentra used up all of its interior for space like Civic, sure better than the old crappy Sylphy '08. But compared to the other C-segments, your Sentara seems to be obsolete in terms of design and frame.

Check latest motorshow, there's new N-brand Lannia Bluebird concept. Again you are trying to bring in a car when it is almost near end of the road? You have been saying Korean design ugly and useless. Check new Lannia, you'll see Korean Veloster style A-pillar, K5 Optima rear light style and there's more fluidic on the side. If you said that is just concept, the Teana, Almera, Altima and even the new Sentra that you intended to bring in seems to have Korean obsolete design on the sides.


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 28 2014, 01:49 PM)
I think you need to balance your posts with some logic and maturity if you want people to take your comments seriously. Even though i own a Korean but i will never just blindly bash a Jap car for the sake of bashing. I think you should follow the same. You need to back up your points with facts and not just emotion. Saying that the Sylphy is the worst and never practical car thats a big waste of money is clearly incorrect and flawed in every aspect. Im not even bothered with resale value since it will still be better than the Koreans.

My 5 key positive points of the new Sylphy (and these are FACTS):

1) Redesigned exterior and interior which maintains its maturity and yet makes it youthful enough compared to the outgoing model
2) Better designed dashboard
3) Very good interior space for a C segment
4) Top safety specs with stability control and 6 airbags
5) Smooth shifting refined Xtronic CVT which is more powerful than even Toyota or Honda's CVT
6) Better tyres: R17 Continental ContiPremiumContact 2E
7) Max torque of 174Nm is available at lower RPM of 3,600 (previous was 191Nm at 4,400)
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You got the whole thing wrong. Sylphy is the B-segment limo that jolokia and feelfree started selling from 2008 to present.

The car you mentioned is the new Sentra that was launched in 2011 sold in US, China, AU. It will be named as Sentra here and not Sylphy. Reason being, jolokia wanted to continue selling that junked narrow limo Sylphy just like Latio when its replacement Almera was launched. It was the N16 Sentra that will be phased out, not the Sylphy.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 02:04 PM)
You got the whole thing wrong. Sylphy is the B-segment limo that jolokia and feelfree started selling from 2008 to present.

The car you mentioned is the new Sentra that was launched in 2011 sold in US, China, AU. It will be named as Sentra here and not Sylphy. Reason being, jolokia wanted to continue selling that junked narrow limo Sylphy just like Latio when its replacement Almera was launched. It was the N16 Sentra that will be phased out, not the Sylphy.
I really dunno what ure saying. rclxub.gif

I am refering to the new 2014 Sylphy thats currently in some selected showrooms which is due to be officially launched this week.

And the Sylphy is C segment ok!

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 02:00 PM)
You forgot to add Mazda 3 and Focus. Now spot the difference in better arranged manner.

Wheel base
Honta Civic 2670mm
N Brand Sylphy 2700mm

Toyoda Altis 2700mm
KIAsu Cerato 2700mm
Hongtai Elantra 2700mm

Matsuda 3  2700mm
Fjord Focus 2649mm (that's why legroom space less)

Height
Honta Civic 1435mm
N Brand Sylphy 1495mm

Toyoda Altis 1460mm
KIAsu Cerato 1460mm
Hongtai Elantra 1445mm

Matsuda 3 1450mm
Fjord Focus 1466mm

Width
Honta Civic 1755mm
N Brand Sylphy 1760mm

Toyoda Altis 1775mm
KIAsu Cerato 1775mm
Hongtai Elantra 1775mm

Matsuda 3  1795mm
Fjord Focus 1824mm

It shows your new Sentra only upgraded to be in the league of Civic. The Altis, Cerato, Matsuda 3 and Elantra have upgraded to be in wider stance league while Focus is in a league of its own with being widest of them all. Focus is made for performance rather than family oriented sedan like Pug308. The new Sentra used up all of its interior for space like Civic, sure better than the old crappy Sylphy '08. But compared to the other C-segments, your Sentara seems to be obsolete in terms of design and frame.

Check latest motorshow, there's new N-brand Lannia Bluebird concept. Again you are trying to bring in a car when it is almost near end of the road? You have been saying Korean design ugly and useless. Check new Lannia, you'll see Korean Veloster style A-pillar, K5 Optima rear light style and there's more fluidic on the side. If you said that is just concept, the Teana, Almera, Altima and even the new Sentra that you intended to bring in seems to have Korean obsolete design on the sides.
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So U openly admit N Brand Sylphy opps since it's meet US standard can now be named Nissan Sylphy thumbup.gif

Nissan Sylphy had better head room No. 1 thumbup.gif

Nissan Sylphy had best leg room No.1 rclxms.gif

Nissan Sylphy better width than Civic rclxm9.gif

Since Nissan use convetional no nonsense design, the width r fully utilise as no need useless fludic design which serve no pratictical usage.

Wow if compare to Forte EX Kosong lagi terror laugh.gif

I know u drool.gif on our Nissan new concept Lannia, make u laoya slanted H & KIAsu don't copy our design & claim yours. whistling.gif

Why use Fjord ? Stewpiak lah U, use lah "Fork" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 28 2014, 02:11 PM)
I really dunno what ure saying.  rclxub.gif

I am refering to the new 2014 Sylphy thats currently in some selected showrooms which is due to be officially launched this week.

And the Sylphy is C segment ok!
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They retain the name Sylphy for the new Sentra 2012? Jolokia and feelfree ready to cease the Sylphy '08 sales already? Thought they would continue selling and to name the new replacement to Sentra instead.

Sylphy '08 is claimed to be C-segment but in terms of dimension, it is not qualified to be placed under C-segment for having width just 1695mm.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 02:04 PM)
You got the whole thing wrong. Sylphy is the B-segment limo that jolokia and feelfree started selling from 2008 to present.

The car you mentioned is the new Sentra that was launched in 2011 sold in US, China, AU. It will be named as Sentra here and not Sylphy. Reason being, jolokia wanted to continue selling that junked narrow limo Sylphy just like Latio when its replacement Almera was launched. It was the N16 Sentra that will be phased out, not the Sylphy.
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U mimpi pagi ah ? or eyesight problem ?

http://paultan.org/2014/04/25/gallery-new-...w_vs_old_010-2/

The car already come with Sylphy badge u still dream of Sentra ah ? U think like ur laoya Forte EX Kosong meh ! buy NAZA Forte come with free KIA bagge to cover the ugly NASA laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 02:16 PM)
They retain the name Sylphy for the new Sentra 2012? Jolokia and feelfree ready to cease the Sylphy '08 sales already? Thought they would continue selling and to name the new replacement to Sentra instead.

Sylphy '08 is claimed to be C-segment but in terms of dimension, it is not qualified to be placed under C-segment for having width just 1695mm.
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Your Forte also not qualify to be C segment since it have shorter than Sylphy wheelbase. cry.gif
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 28 2014, 02:14 PM)
So U openly admit N Brand Sylphy opps since it's meet US standard can now be named Nissan Sylphy  thumbup.gif

Nissan Sylphy had better head room No. 1  thumbup.gif

Nissan Sylphy had best leg room No.1  rclxms.gif

Nissan Sylphy better width than Civic  rclxm9.gif

Since Nissan use convetional no nonsense design, the width r fully utilise as no need useless fludic design which serve no pratictical usage.

Wow if compare to Forte EX Kosong lagi terror  laugh.gif

I know u  drool.gif  on our Nissan new concept Lannia, make u laoya slanted H & KIAsu don't copy our design & claim yours.  whistling.gif

Why use Fjord ? Stewpiak lah U, use lah "Fork"  tongue.gif
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Marketing talk again. Seems like Korean really inspired Japanese carmakers to copy their design. You better don't say anything bad about Korean design because your product will always copy Korean design. It'll backfire on you like Almera, new Sentra and so on.

Are you phasing out the Sylphy '08 instead of Sentra N16? Sales of Sylphy must be very terrible until you have it phased out before N16. Told you the Sylphy will end up like Bluebird 1992, having poor demand for used unit and end up with worst RV.

Forte EX is most practical car ever made by Kia. Fjord is in Iceland language spelling.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 02:16 PM)
They retain the name Sylphy for the new Sentra 2012? Jolokia and feelfree ready to cease the Sylphy '08 sales already? Thought they would continue selling and to name the new replacement to Sentra instead.

Sylphy '08 is claimed to be C-segment but in terms of dimension, it is not qualified to be placed under C-segment for having width just 1695mm.
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narrow width is good for low speed maneuvaring in tight roads, and narrow parking spots.
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QUOTE(sootienann @ Apr 28 2014, 02:23 PM)
narrow width is good for low speed maneuvaring in tight roads, and narrow parking spots.
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Sylphy '08 narrow and long like train with turning circle 10.6m, that is not easy to maneuver through tight parking spots anymore. The longer and wider Cerato/Altis/Elantra/Mazda 3 despite being bigger could turn better than SYlphy '08 with same turning circle 10.6m.

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QUOTE(sootienann @ Apr 28 2014, 02:23 PM)
narrow width is good for low speed maneuvaring in tight roads, and narrow parking spots.
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Actually it a regulation in Japan to have car less than 1700mm width as more suitable for Japan narrow road in housing area, car with width exceed 1700mm cost more.

Previous Sylphy is actually a JDM model.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 02:30 PM)
Sylphy '08 narrow and long like train with turning circle 10.6m, that is not easy to maneuver through tight parking spots anymore. The longer and wider Cerato/Altis/Elantra/Mazda 3 despite being bigger could turn better than SYlphy '08 with same turning circle 10.6m.
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i dont mean turning circle. i mean on a tight road, where many buggers double park at the side.
its easier to drive through using narrow car because u worry less about kncoking other cars side mirrors.

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QUOTE(sootienann @ Apr 28 2014, 02:32 PM)
i dont mean turning circle. i mean on a tight road, where many buggers double park at the side.
its easier to drive through using narrow car because u worry less about kncoking other cars side mirrors.
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last time on other forum this ar$ewhole spoil the whole nissan discussion forum and up i left there

now this ar$ewhole come here again to spoil everything.

i just wish that everyone stop replying to him and ignore him. then we can have more healthy discussion.


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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 02:21 PM)
Marketing talk again. Seems like Korean really inspired Japanese carmakers to copy their design. You better don't say anything bad about Korean design because your product will always copy Korean design. It'll backfire on you like Almera, new Sentra and so on.

Are you phasing out the Sylphy '08 instead of Sentra N16? Sales of Sylphy must be very terrible until you have it phased out before N16. Told you the Sylphy will end up like Bluebird 1992, having poor demand for used unit and end up with worst RV.

Forte EX is most practical car ever made by Kia. Fjord is in Iceland language spelling.
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You are damn good man..
Forte in Jb really rare... Who bother it car again an after Cerato to be replace it crap car.

Not longer to be same history like sephia or spectra else, sentra and Altis almost same RV, dun believe just take a look at mudah.my
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QUOTE(ahchun @ Apr 28 2014, 03:27 PM)
last time on other forum this ar$ewhole spoil the whole nissan discussion forum and up i left there

now this ar$ewhole come here again to spoil everything.

i just wish that everyone stop replying to him and ignore him. then we can have more healthy discussion.
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We can ignore him, but after him disappear of my life without him, just fet something missing..

Also worry him back to thier cave..
We must support him and listen professor comments

He got another history to made more fun of the day to us.

Why not welcome him.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 01:27 PM)
Sylphy interior space only give more legroom with tiny poor thigh support seats. In terms of interior width, the Sylphy is worst. Even Latio and Sentra N16 have more interior width than that crappy Sylphy. Sylphy is worst and never practical car that is big waste of money to buy and had worst resale value when comes to selling.
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Who care worst for those people go for safety feature.. Your forte got or not?

Please stock up future spare parts as well, before GST & not longer nasim to be when up price, you cry no tears rclxms.gif

My sentra a plenty of spare parts wow, cheap somemore and still made in Japan Leh brows.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 28 2014, 01:27 PM)
Sylphy interior space only give more legroom with tiny poor thigh support seats. In terms of interior width, the Sylphy is worst. Even Latio and Sentra N16 have more interior width than that crappy Sylphy. Sylphy is worst and never practical car that is big waste of money to buy and had worst resale value when comes to selling.
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Who care worst for those people go for safety feature.. Your forte got or not?

Please stock up future spare parts as well, before GST & not longer nasim to be when up price, you cry no tears rclxms.gif

My sentra a plenty of spare parts wow, cheap somemore and still made in Japan Leh brows.gif

Also my sentra bought by cash money never do installment why too worried of RV.

Also my Sylphy g11 never plan for sell within 10 yrs, cause my felt that suit to my style and interior very deluxe with spacious too.

How bout your?
In b4 forte just like persona wow..

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launching today?
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 28 2014, 06:55 PM)
Who care worst for those people go for safety feature.. Your forte got or not?
If im not mistaken, the Forte was the first non European C segment car in Malaysia to offer the full range of safety features and 5 years warranty. Plus it was very affordable and very well priced which is why it became the best selling Korean car in Malaysia. Imagine getting a 2.0L full spec C segment car for only 97K. For the first 3 months of 2012 for instance, the Forte sold double the number of Sylphy's. Even the Altis couldnt match the sales of the Forte.

So lets give credit where it is due.
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Anyway, now there's a new contender in the market. The VW Jetta 1.4TSI twincharger. 160PS, 240Nm torque Euro 5 engine with 7 speed DSG. Comes with 5 years unlimited mileage warranty also and full range of safety features.

RM 135K (OTR with insurance).
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Received the following text from sales person:

New Sylphy (CBU) OTR Price
1.8E: RM115,093.80
1.8VL: RM125,353.80


News from Paul Tan (OTR without insurance):
1.8E: RM111,900
1.8VL: RM121,900

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Anyone going to booking?
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I would think that buyers should seriously consider the 1.8VL for 125K+. For 10K more you get:

1) Auto levelling xenon projector headlamps with washers
2) LED positioning lamps
3) front fog lamps,
4) 205/50 R17 alloys with ContiPremiumContact 2 tyres
5) auto-folding wing mirrors
6) boot spoiler with integrated LED third brake lamp.
7) keyless entry and push start ignition,
8) leather steering wheel and gear lever
9) chrome-surrounded instrument dials
10) silver patterned interior trim
11) auto dual-zone air-con with rear vents
12) leather seats
13) 4.3-inch central display with CD, MP3, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, iPod
14) reverse camera

Both models come standard with 6 airbags, stability control, traction control, ABS, EBD,BA, 6 airbags and all round disk brakes.

But the cheapest C segment title still goes to the Kia Cerato (2.0L is RM 118,888 OTR).
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am contemplating between Sylphy and Civic now....when is the Civic supposed to facelift as it has been on market for a while...
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Apr 30 2014, 08:40 AM)
am contemplating between Sylphy and Civic now....when is the Civic supposed to facelift as it has been on market for a while...
Civic launched July 2012 so a facelift should be next year. But if u keep waiting for facelifts, then ull end up waiting forever. My rule of thumb is waiting for a facelift only makes sense if its due within the next 6months. Honda, Toyota and Nissan facelifts are always very minor but with hefty price increases.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 30 2014, 08:32 AM)
I would think that buyers should seriously consider the 1.8VL for 125K+. For 10K more you get:

1) Auto levelling xenon projector headlamps with washers
2) LED positioning lamps
3) front fog lamps,
4) 205/50 R17 alloys with ContiPremiumContact 2 tyres
5) auto-folding wing mirrors
6) boot spoiler with integrated LED third brake lamp.
7) keyless entry and push start ignition,
8) leather steering wheel and gear lever
9) chrome-surrounded instrument dials
10) silver patterned interior trim
11) auto dual-zone air-con with rear vents
12) leather seats
13) 4.3-inch central display with CD, MP3, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, iPod
14) reverse camera

Both models come standard with 6 airbags, stability control, traction control, ABS, EBD,BA, 6 airbags and all round disk brakes.

But the cheapest C segment title still goes to the Kia Cerato (2.0L is RM 118,888 OTR).
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well some are still skeptical about Korean cars... so this would be another option...
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 30 2014, 08:32 AM)
I would think that buyers should seriously consider the 1.8VL for 125K+. For 10K more you get:

1) Auto levelling xenon projector headlamps with washers
2) LED positioning lamps
3) front fog lamps,
4) 205/50 R17 alloys with ContiPremiumContact 2 tyres
5) auto-folding wing mirrors
6) boot spoiler with integrated LED third brake lamp.
7) keyless entry and push start ignition,
8) leather steering wheel and gear lever
9) chrome-surrounded instrument dials
10) silver patterned interior trim
11) auto dual-zone air-con with rear vents
12) leather seats
13) 4.3-inch central display with CD, MP3, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, iPod
14) reverse camera

Both models come standard with 6 airbags, stability control, traction control, ABS, EBD,BA, 6 airbags and all round disk brakes.

But the cheapest C segment title still goes to the Kia Cerato (2.0L is RM 118,888 OTR).
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I thought is Mitsu Lancer 2.0 RM 119K & it's twin bros Proton Inspira 2.0 - RM 85K ?? No ? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 30 2014, 09:05 AM)
I thought is Mitsu Lancer 2.0 RM 119K & it's twin bros Proton Inspira 2.0 - RM 85K ?? No ?  rolleyes.gif
Was refering to international brands not local.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3208777


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ok, thanks for the clarification. my time frame to get a new car is within a year's time....so might wait to see how's Civic facelift and see what's the difference.

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 30 2014, 08:43 AM)
Civic launched July 2012 so a facelift should be next year. But if u keep waiting for facelifts, then ull end up waiting forever. My rule of thumb is waiting for a facelift only makes sense if its due within the next 6months. Honda, Toyota and Nissan facelifts are always very minor but with hefty price increases.
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am contemplating between Sylphy and Civic now....when is the Civic supposed to facelift as it has been on market for a while...
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Civic facelift should be coming soon considering how Honda dealers are giving massive discounts on current Civic.

Anyway Thailand has already launched the Facelifted Civic last month, we should be getting it soon.
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QUOTE(chiew @ Apr 30 2014, 10:46 AM)
made the booking during pre-launch period, but haven't followed up with the sales rep yet.
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Not sure waiting how long...I'm not salesman here smile.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 30 2014, 12:32 PM)
Not sure waiting how long...I'm not salesman here smile.gif
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That one r not for u to said, Dr.Jay will decide if r or if u r not...lol

Back to the topic, I wonder why people just loved to drive one soonest possible, for me I rather wait a while to see any possible first batch defects.



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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 28 2014, 06:42 PM)
You are damn good man..
Forte in Jb really rare... Who bother it car again an after Cerato to be replace it crap car.

Not longer to be same history like sephia or spectra else, sentra and Altis almost same RV, dun believe just take a look at mudah.my
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That is only with your JB. Look at Singaland where their mentality is still traditional yet they all buy Korean made starting with Forte and now Elantra, Cerato, etc. Plenty of Korean made nowadays. Even in Kepong area where people only buy Japanese made but now, you'll find Tucson, Elantra, Forte, Cerato, Sonata, K5 all over. Korean made aren't crap car anymore ever since they give us proven reliable engine with German design.

Funniest thing is a bunch of marketing staff that don't know anything about used car market trying to be pro. Lol! So professional until don't know how to answer forumner that ask for procedure to sell used car.

You want to know which used car that can sell well nowadays?
Apart from Toyota and Honda, it's Korean Forte, current Elantra, Tucson, etc and also Mazda 3/6. Fiesta also starting to stabilise on RV.
As for your N-brand, only Sentra N16, Lavina can still sell. Latio, Sylphy, X-Gear and Teana are all hard to sell used car. If they want to set high asking price for Sylphy/Teana as what you claimed, they'll only end up lying on the yard for long term.

Marketing term, high demand for used unit, good RV. Poor demand for used unit, bad RV. Common sense.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 30 2014, 03:37 PM)
That is only with your JB. Look at Singaland where their mentality is still traditional yet they all buy Korean made starting with Forte and now Elantra, Cerato, etc. Plenty of Korean made nowadays. Even in Kepong area where people only buy Japanese made but now, you'll find Tucson, Elantra, Forte, Cerato, Sonata, K5 all over. Korean made aren't crap car anymore ever since they give us proven reliable engine with German design.

Funniest thing is a bunch of marketing staff that don't know anything about used car market trying to be pro. Lol! So professional until don't know how to answer forumner that ask for procedure to sell used car.

You want to know which used car that can sell well nowadays?
Apart from Toyota and Honda, it's Korean Forte, current Elantra, Tucson, etc and also Mazda 3/6. Fiesta also starting to stabilise on RV.
As for your N-brand, only Sentra N16, Lavina can still sell. Latio, Sylphy, X-Gear and Teana are all hard to sell used car. If they want to set high asking price for Sylphy/Teana as what you claimed, they'll only end up lying on the yard for long term.

Marketing term, high demand for used unit, good RV. Poor demand for used unit, bad RV. Common sense.
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Got meh? Honestly I'm working in s'pore, in the road for more is sentra n16, 2nd Latio, 3rd Sylphy with Teana or Cefiro..
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Apr 30 2014, 03:37 PM)
That is only with your JB. Look at Singaland where their mentality is still traditional yet they all buy Korean made starting with Forte and now Elantra, Cerato, etc. Plenty of Korean made nowadays. Even in Kepong area where people only buy Japanese made but now, you'll find Tucson, Elantra, Forte, Cerato, Sonata, K5 all over. Korean made aren't crap car anymore ever since they give us proven reliable engine with German design.

Funniest thing is a bunch of marketing staff that don't know anything about used car market trying to be pro. Lol! So professional until don't know how to answer forumner that ask for procedure to sell used car.

You want to know which used car that can sell well nowadays?
Apart from Toyota and Honda, it's Korean Forte, current Elantra, Tucson, etc and also Mazda 3/6. Fiesta also starting to stabilise on RV.
As for your N-brand, only Sentra N16, Lavina can still sell. Latio, Sylphy, X-Gear and Teana are all hard to sell used car. If they want to set high asking price for Sylphy/Teana as what you claimed, they'll only end up lying on the yard for long term.

Marketing term, high demand for used unit, good RV. Poor demand for used unit, bad RV. Common sense.
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U don't try to tipu ah ! I lived in a area where one can find a used car dealer almost every few hundred meter, i see most very reluctant to take korean car, mostly Toyoda, Honta & our N brand, most of them said korean car ah !!! very susah jual one oh ! don't wan lah, even those who willing to take also potong price kao2.

I se some of those korean car including your Forte, lying in the used car dealer collecting dust long long also no taker, those Spectra, Avante, Citra lagi teruk, only those really ulu type used car dealer would take.

Our N brand even old2 Sentra also they would take. flex.gif

U very worry now mah ! U got nothing else to pin point at our new Nissan Sylphy because it's really a deal breaker, Full Safety features for all range, NTHSA, ANCAP crash test compliance, New dual VVT engine, new big first gear CVT, price even more attractive then your overprice korean car. rclxm9.gif

How come u didn;t go for test drive & write review ? don't forget to bring 3 big size fellow with you, do crazy zig zag stunt handling test, 2 liters fuel drive till engine stalled test, sand bag at trunk drag test & reverse gear up hill test, & post here & autoworld... we are eager awaiting .. whistling.gif
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i am a proud owner of the previous gen, and the new one looks promising, however the handbrake upsets me totally.
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ May 1 2014, 10:03 AM)
i am a proud owner of the previous gen, and the new one looks promising, however the handbrake upsets me totally.
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Is your previous generation Sylphy the first model year 2007/2008 or the later batches? Have you went to the showroom to have a look at the new Sylphy? This all-new model certainly looks promising. I am particularly interested on the leather seats of this new model since I read that the old Sylphy's seats are more plush and comfortable than the seats of this new Sylphy.
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Would say that one mans meat would be another mans poison??

Talking about brands, Jap, Kors, American, Brits and etc.

I would have taken the Brits but... how much are we going to pay for that. I bet that each of us here would knows. And my take on the new Nissan Slyphy.. that is just as great, amazing to its own...

Just my opinion tho.. smile.gif

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at some areas the new sylphy looks like moving backwards.
Seat for example. Prev seems more comfy.
headlights prev version is more creative.
New grill is hideous.

but yeah, nissan cars are good eventho abit underdog
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at some areas the new sylphy looks like moving backwards.
Seat for example. Prev seems more comfy.
headlights prev version is more creative.
New grill is hideous.

but yeah, nissan cars are good eventho abit underdog
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2nd best selling non national car after Toyota, Nissan no underdog leh !

With new Teana named Altima in US & Nissan Note upcoming, Nissan would definitely among the top dogs. ..hehe

I worried Dr . Jayraptor going to run amok later this year when so many US & Europe standard N brand in the market. . wakakaka

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Yeah..must agree..nissan is coming right uppp....actually most Japanese brands in terms of design are going backward...starting with H - City....then T - Camry...then N with the not so impressive Almera...seems that Koreans are emphasizing more in designs and quality....but Jap still have the brand name and trust....and most important reliability.....only mazda, the standalone Jap brands, which design is very impressive....but still there is no denying that N brand is bringing in more and more models....too bad they didnt bring in the Dualis..haizzz
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hi guys,

i just testdrive sylphy this morning. It's my first time driving CVT transmission car.
Just wondering is it normal that the engine bit jerky on low speed. Like when i pedal more, engine rev a lot but doesn't really pick up. Salesman told me it's CVT characteristics.
After pickup the speed then seems ok and smooth driving.

Is this normal for CVT?
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went to showroom, but so far only see low spec Sylphy. anyone see high spec Sylphy in showroom so far?
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QUOTE(setheo @ May 4 2014, 04:59 PM)
hi guys,

i just testdrive sylphy this morning. It's my first time driving CVT transmission car.
Just wondering is it normal that the engine bit jerky on low speed. Like when i pedal more, engine rev a lot but doesn't really pick up. Salesman told me it's CVT characteristics.
After pickup the speed then seems ok and smooth driving.

Is this normal for CVT?
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It is true that it's due to the smoothness of the Nissan's CVT. The CVT transmission is certainly very smooth that you don't feel anything at all, I mean the gears upshifting(or downshifting) when you step on the pedal. Even in hard acceleration ie. stepping hard on the pedal, you hear the sound of the engine revving loud but you don't feel the car moving forward too much due to the absence of the jolts in the transmission. The CVT is really a smooth operator.

It would be useful if you look at the speedometer when the car is accelerating. You would notice the needle on the speedometer is climbing up rapidly even though you don't feel the car accelerating.

How is the soundproofing of this new Sylphy? The Sylphy is well-known to be a quiet car with excellent soundproofing from road, suspension, engine and wind noise.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 4 2014, 06:11 PM)
went to showroom, but so far only see low spec Sylphy. anyone see high spec Sylphy in showroom so far?
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Ya. went twice, two different showroom. One before launching and one this morning. Only low spec available.
Asked the salesman, said not sure exact date when coming in but said this month. Said low spec got stock, can take this month but for high end spec, need to wait 2 months.


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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 4 2014, 07:04 PM)
It is true that it's due to the smoothness of the Nissan's CVT. The CVT transmission is certainly very smooth that you don't feel anything at all, I mean the gears upshifting(or downshifting) when you step on the pedal. Even in hard acceleration ie. stepping hard on the pedal, you hear the sound of the engine revving loud but you don't feel the car moving forward too much due to the absence of the jolts in the transmission. The CVT is really a smooth operator.

It would be useful if you look at the speedometer when the car is accelerating. You would notice the needle on the speedometer is climbing up rapidly even though you don't feel the car accelerating.

How is the soundproofing of this new Sylphy? The Sylphy is well-known to be a quiet car with excellent soundproofing from road, suspension, engine and wind noise.
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Ya. Didn't feel the jolt when accelerate. Feel a bit weird actually.
But my concern is when I first drive the car, it rev very high, like need power to move that car. After that, it's smooth all the way.
It is very quiet and comfy car, for sure. The car can absorb shocks from uneven road very well too.

I also tested Civic 2.0 this week and I personally feel Sylphy has better soundproofing. The interior in Civic is more plastic than Sylphy.

My personal opinion.

Pros:
1. good NVH
2. Safety feature - 6 airbags.
3. Spacious

Cons:
1. The position of handbrake is more towards passenger side. I believe this design is for left-hand drive.
2. Low spec fabric seat, emm.. just don't quite like it. Ask if there's option to upgrade to leather seat, salesman said no.
3. The aircond dial controller. OMG, it's back to the future to 80s!!

Anyway, i already place my booking for high-end spec. cool2.gif



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Any special deal for high spec? What's the interest rate now ?

QUOTE(setheo @ May 4 2014, 08:22 PM)
Ya. Didn't feel the jolt when accelerate. Feel a bit weird actually.
But my concern is when I first drive the car, it rev very high, like need power to move that car. After that, it's smooth all the way.
It is very quiet and comfy car, for sure. The car can absorb shocks from uneven road very well too.

I also tested Civic 2.0 this week and I personally feel Sylphy has better soundproofing. The interior in Civic is more plastic than Sylphy.

My personal opinion.

Pros:
1. good NVH
2. Safety feature - 6 airbags.
3. Spacious

Cons:
1. The position of handbrake is more towards passenger side. I believe this design is for left-hand drive.
2. Low spec fabric seat, emm.. just don't quite like it. Ask if there's option to upgrade to leather seat, salesman said no.
3. The aircond dial controller. OMG, it's back to the future to 80s!!

Anyway, i already place my booking for high-end spec.  cool2.gif
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Only gave me solar safety film only. sad.gif
Said abt 2.6%-2.7%.

My relative just booked Honda City 3 days ago, interest rate is 2.6%.


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U mean free solar film installation? How much it's worth? Which solar film?

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Only gave me solar safety film only.  sad.gif
Said abt 2.6%-2.7%.

My relative just booked Honda City 3 days ago, interest rate is 2.6%.
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QUOTE(setheo @ May 4 2014, 08:22 PM)
Ya. Didn't feel the jolt when accelerate. Feel a bit weird actually.
But my concern is when I first drive the car, it rev very high, like need power to move that car. After that, it's smooth all the way.
It is very quiet and comfy car, for sure. The car can absorb shocks from uneven road very well too.

I also tested Civic 2.0 this week and I personally feel Sylphy has better soundproofing. The interior in Civic is more plastic than Sylphy.

My personal opinion.

Pros:
1. good NVH
2. Safety feature - 6 airbags.
3. Spacious

Cons:
1. The position of handbrake is more towards passenger side. I believe this design is for left-hand drive.
2. Low spec fabric seat, emm.. just don't quite like it. Ask if there's option to upgrade to leather seat, salesman said no.
3. The aircond dial controller. OMG, it's back to the future to 80s!!

Anyway, i already place my booking for high-end spec.  cool2.gif
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Excellent choice! High spec with fog lamp, leather seats cum steering, usb, auto aircond n whatnot, is much more justifiable than the 115k low spec.

Cvt is meant for smooth operation. Press the pedal n power comes sequentially. Couple with quiet cabin n absorbant suspension, this Sylphy suits the matured much.
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Oh ya, about the handbrake lever, they are standard on the left regardless RHD or LHD models. Not really a concern though... except I still prefer previous gens' foot brake.
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Only gave me solar safety film only.  sad.gif
Said abt 2.6%-2.7%.

My relative just booked Honda City 3 days ago, interest rate is 2.6%.
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Got the following rate from Nissan Sales Rep for loan of 80k:

CIMB is 2.53% under variable rate BLR-1.80%,
Public Bank 2.65% fixed rate, existing public bank customer 2.63%.
Ambank 2.7%
TCCR 2.85%

Was offered free Solargard Armourcoast too, but may choose to upgrade to VKool Elite for RM1500.



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solar film price by Nissan as attached. They offer Solargard Armourcoat for first 1000 customers.
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Same co as vcool? They told me free vkool but cheaper grade... hmmmm. Deciding to get the high spec or just go ahead with the city which I have booked.
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solar film price by Nissan as attached. They offer Solargard Armourcoat for first 1000 customers.
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Ya, saw this too.

Didn't really push for any other things. Wondering if anyone else manage to get a better deal.
If am one of the first 1000, guess Sylphy sales pretty slow eh.

My salesman also bit blur. First told me high spec comes with sunroof. I told him better confirm the fact and went to office and came back apologize because mixed up with Teana.
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i would rather like TC to give me 1-2k discount so that i choose my own tint.

also, dont know why TC can launch a car but has no high spec car for viewing and test drive. kind of screw up there.

QUOTE(setheo @ May 4 2014, 09:47 PM)
Ya, saw this too.

Didn't really push for any other things. Wondering if anyone else manage to get a better deal.
If am one of the first 1000, guess Sylphy sales pretty slow eh.

My salesman also bit blur. First told me high spec comes with sunroof. I told him better confirm the fact and went to office and came back apologize because mixed up with Teana.
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QUOTE(setheo @ May 4 2014, 09:47 PM)
Ya, saw this too.

Didn't really push for any other things. Wondering if anyone else manage to get a better deal.
If am one of the first 1000, guess Sylphy sales pretty slow eh.

My salesman also bit blur. First told me high spec comes with sunroof. I told him better confirm the fact and went to office and came back apologize because mixed up with Teana.
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i booked during pre-launch, and they offer additional 1k rebate too.
guess Sylphy quite slow, my Sales Rep said only sell two so far hmm.gif

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i would rather like TC to give me 1-2k discount so that i choose my own tint.

also, dont know why TC can launch a car but has no high spec car for viewing and test drive. kind of screw up there.
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Exactly.
However, I believe there is high spec cars available in select few showroom because paultan.org review was done with high-end spec.

Btw, is Solar tint quality lousy?

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so u got 1k rebate and free solar gard armorcoat free installation? i guess that's the best offer so far.

QUOTE(chiew @ May 4 2014, 09:53 PM)
i booked during pre-launch, and they offer additional 1k rebate too.
guess Sylphy quite slow, my Sales Rep said only sell two so far  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chiew @ May 4 2014, 09:53 PM)
i booked during pre-launch, and they offer additional 1k rebate too.
guess Sylphy quite slow, my Sales Rep said only sell two so far  hmm.gif
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Tomorrow gonna call up my sales rep!
Mine to PM me which branch you went to?

Btw, which spec you booked? When expect to get your new car?

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QUOTE(setheo @ May 4 2014, 09:55 PM)
Exactly.
However, I believe there is high spec cars available in select few showroom because paultan.org review was done with high-end spec.

Btw, is Solar tint quality lousy?
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I have seen the high spec at sg tiram pg showroom.but test drive only the low spec
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so u got 1k rebate and free solar gard armorcoat free installation? i guess that's the best offer so far.
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Ya, got both rebate and solar gard amourcoat. in fact, the rep told me if i trade in car, there will be another RM500 rebate.
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why dont u just mention ur SA contacts and location here so that whoever interested can contact him...

QUOTE(chiew @ May 4 2014, 10:27 PM)
Ya, got both rebate and solar gard amourcoat. in fact, the rep told me if i trade in car, there will be another RM500 rebate.
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Noted from Nissan SA that
Nissan to Nissan Trade-In = 1500
Non Nissan to Nissan Trade-In = 500.
... REBAT

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Seems that Hyundai is offering up to 7K discount for some of their cars. Elantra 1.8L Premium (full spec) 150PS, 178Nm, 6 speed auto with sunroof, navigation, reverse camera, Nappa leather seats, electric driver seat, cruise control, push start ignition, keyless entry. 2014 manufactured CKD model for RM 108K (OTR).



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QUOTE(chiew @ May 4 2014, 09:53 PM)
i booked during pre-launch, and they offer additional 1k rebate too.
guess Sylphy quite slow, my Sales Rep said only sell two so far  hmm.gif
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No rear 60/40 folder seat, pass.
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Seems that Hyundai is offering up to 7K discount for some of their cars. Elantra 1.8L Premium (full spec) 150PS, 178Nm, 6 speed auto with sunroof, navigation, reverse camera, Nappa leather seats, electric driver seat, cruise control, push start ignition, keyless entry. 2014 manufactured CKD model for RM 108K (OTR).
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2 Airbags ??

Previous buyer will cry like baby. .lol

The residue value for those who bought at full price previously will really suffer.

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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 5 2014, 11:09 AM)
2 Airbags ??

Previous buyer will cry like baby. .lol

The residue value for those who bought at full price previously will really suffer.
Yes. 108K for the 1.8L Premium full spec (with 2 airbags) is quite a good offer actually. 115K for Kia Cerato 2.0L.
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QUOTE(chiew @ May 4 2014, 09:53 PM)
i booked during pre-launch, and they offer additional 1k rebate too.
guess Sylphy quite slow, my Sales Rep said only sell two so far  hmm.gif
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As expected, Toyota Altis also very slow, I think this is because our Malaysia economy is bad, so people not dare to simply change new car, and one more thing is Honda Accord giving out huge discount, you simply can get RM12K, some even can get up to RM21K for discount (2013 stock), so after discount, the price is almost same as the Altis / Sylphy price range, so will you still consider C-segment when you can get the D-segment with the same price??????
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QUOTE(feelfree @ May 5 2014, 04:28 PM)
As expected, Toyota Altis also very slow, I think this is because our Malaysia economy is bad, so people not dare to simply change new car, and one more thing is Honda Accord giving out huge discount, you simply can get RM12K, some even can get up to RM21K for discount (2013 stock), so after discount, the price is almost same as the Altis / Sylphy price range, so will you still consider C-segment when you can get the D-segment with the same price??????
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I don't think is because of economy bad, I think is because the B segment cars have grown larger in terms of interior space till most people don't need an even bigger car. Look at the rear legroom of the new City and Almera...If economy is bad, the Mazda CX-5 wont be selling so well, waiting list is blardy long..

Few reasons people still buy Altis still:

1.There are hardcore Toyota fans who will still buy Altis despite the price tag of the full spec one is more or less the same like an Accord.
2. Aunties who feel that the Accord is too big to maneuver , thus Altis size is just nice.
3. Altis being a C-segment has better resell value than Accord. All D-segment cars have bad resell value .
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I don't think is because of economy bad, I think is because the B segment cars have grown larger in terms of interior space till most people don't need an even bigger car. Look at the rear legroom of the new City and Almera...If economy is bad, the Mazda CX-5 wont be selling so well, waiting list is blardy long..

Few reasons people still buy Altis still:

1.There are hardcore Toyota fans who will still buy Altis despite the price tag of the full spec one is more or less the same like an Accord.
2. Aunties who feel that the Accord is too big to maneuver , thus Altis size is just nice.
3. Altis being a C-segment has better resell value than Accord. All D-segment cars have bad resell value .
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Mazda CX5 waiting list is long is due to the previous order, not new order. And now slowly people have learned the Mazda Skyactiv is actually over rated and in real world isn't that superior (based on my sister and other people input), so the CX sales also fading. Second is I don't think Altis sales is good, because I got friends working in Toyota and all of them telling me Altis sales is very bad since it is a new model. So far I only saw new Altis on the road twice. But 1 thing I have to agree with you, the B-segment is growing in size, thus making the C-segment vehicle become no longer an important car segment.
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so does this mean Altis big discount is coming wink.gif?

QUOTE(feelfree @ May 5 2014, 06:17 PM)
Mazda CX5 waiting list is long is due to the previous order, not new order. And now slowly people have learned the Mazda Skyactiv is actually over rated and in real world isn't that superior (based on my sister and other people input), so the CX sales also fading. Second is I don't think Altis sales is good, because I got friends working in Toyota and all of them telling me Altis sales is very bad since it is a new model. So far I only saw new Altis on the road twice. But 1 thing I have to agree with you, the B-segment is growing in size, thus making the C-segment vehicle become no longer an important car segment.
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so does this mean Altis big discount is coming wink.gif?
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QUOTE(setheo @ May 4 2014, 08:22 PM)
Ya. Didn't feel the jolt when accelerate. Feel a bit weird actually.
But my concern is when I first drive the car, it rev very high, like need power to move that car. After that, it's smooth all the way.
It is very quiet and comfy car, for sure. The car can absorb shocks from uneven road very well too.

I also tested Civic 2.0 this week and I personally feel Sylphy has better soundproofing. The interior in Civic is more plastic than Sylphy.

My personal opinion.

Pros:
1. good NVH
2. Safety feature - 6 airbags.
3. Spacious

Cons:
1. The position of handbrake is more towards passenger side. I believe this design is for left-hand drive.
2. Low spec fabric seat, emm.. just don't quite like it. Ask if there's option to upgrade to leather seat, salesman said no.
3. The aircond dial controller. OMG, it's back to the future to 80s!!

Anyway, i already place my booking for high-end spec.  cool2.gif
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Sylphy's soundproofing is certainly among the best in the RM125k category and below. If comparing between the Sylphy and Civic, although looks are subjective, I do think the current Civic looks ugly. The new Sylphy looks better at all angles. As for interior, the new Sylphy has shed the "uncle look" by eliminating the wood grain strips and panels, replacing them with silver and black trims, giving the ambiance a modern and sophisticated feel. Again a matter of preference the dashboard and overall interior of the Sylphy looks better than the Civic. I only have problems with the air-cond dials in the low-spec model of the Sylphy. The high-spec Sylphy is much more presentable on this aspect.

I thought the high-spec model comes with leather seats and not fabric?

Yes, the Sylphy is definitely a comfortable and spacious car with impressive rear legroom for this segment. The older model comes with very plush leather seats(the new Sylphy's leather seats lost to the old model in terms of comfort from what I read) and to me is the king when it comes to comfortable seats. It is almost like sitting on a soft Rozel leather sofa at home. No joke.

If you want a comfortable, quiet and spacious car, I don't think you can go wrong with the Nissan models Sylphy and upwards(Teana).
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ok, Sylphy vs Cerato 2.0....which one would you choose and why?

am contemplating between civic, sylphy and cerato,,,
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 5 2014, 07:29 PM)
Sylphy's soundproofing is certainly among the best in the RM125k category and below. If comparing between the Sylphy and Civic, although looks are subjective, I do think the current Civic looks ugly. The new Sylphy looks better at all angles. As for interior, the new Sylphy has shed the "uncle look" by eliminating the wood grain strips and panels, replacing them with silver and black trims, giving the ambiance a modern and sophisticated feel. Again a matter of preference the dashboard and overall interior of the Sylphy looks better than the Civic. I only have problems with the air-cond dials in the low-spec model of the Sylphy. The high-spec Sylphy is much more presentable on this aspect.

I thought the high-spec model comes with leather seats and not fabric?

Yes, the Sylphy is definitely a comfortable and spacious car with impressive rear legroom for this segment. The older model comes with very plush leather seats(the new Sylphy's leather seats lost to the old model in terms of comfort from what I read) and to me is the king when it comes to comfortable seats. It is almost like sitting on a soft Rozel leather sofa at home. No joke.

If you want a comfortable, quiet and spacious car, I don't think you can go wrong with the Nissan models Sylphy and upwards(Teana).
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My review was based on low-spec model, which is only available at that moment.
Yes, high spec comes with leather and better interior.

Anyway, I think even the low-spec is worth to consider, if don't mind the interior fittings. After all, it's still a spacious, quiet with 6 airbags car.

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QUOTE(setheo @ May 5 2014, 10:49 PM)
My review was based on low-spec model, which is only available at that moment.
Yes, high spec comes with leather and better interior.

Anyway, I think even the low-spec is worth to consider, if don't mind the interior fittings. After all, it's still a spacious, quiet with 6 airbags car.
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And most importantly, both versions of Sylphy also got Electronic Stability Control (ESC), which is actually a very important feature in cars. In fact, it's the second most important safety feature after the seat belts! In USA, it's already standard in all cars, whereas in bolehland, if you can pay more than 90k then only can get... Among the sedans, the cheapest should be Elantra high spec, at RM98k
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QUOTE(bryan5073 @ May 6 2014, 12:25 AM)
And most importantly, both versions of Sylphy also got Electronic Stability Control (ESC), which is actually a very important feature in cars. In fact, it's the second most important safety feature after the seat belts! In USA, it's already standard in all cars, whereas in bolehland, if you can pay more than 90k then only can get... Among the sedans, the cheapest should be Elantra high spec, at RM98k
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 5 2014, 07:38 PM)
ok, Sylphy vs Cerato 2.0....which one would you choose and why?

am contemplating between civic, sylphy and cerato,,,
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Kimchi vs Sushi.

Diffidently on sushi more long runs and also this model had launched 2 yrs back, most of problem issue has been solve up for Asia weather too.

If you ask me, sure I buy Sylphy, I like Japanese car... Spare parts after 3-5 yrs later can find in half cut shop as well.. Even engine or Cvt gear box as well.

Every new car you wouldn't touching an after 2 yrs was boring due to no accessories to be some modify like rims or suspension else..

If you own Cerato after 5 yrs still the same look, remain unchanged and kimchi has upcoming new model to replace it Cerato already..for Sylphy still long lasting look.


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ok, Sylphy vs Cerato 2.0....which one would you choose and why?

am contemplating between civic, sylphy and cerato,,,
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Definately Sylphy.

1.) Nissan engine are more reliable than KIA engine, KIA NU 2.0 engine had received many bad critic of been not unrefined, high fuel consumption.
2.) Nissan CVT gearbox are known to be smooth as silk, wherelse KIA gearbox r known to be missmatch to its engine.
3.) Nissan Sylphy look much better than KIA Cerato, the Cerato design simply look overdoned & odd.
4.) RV ! just look at how bad Forte 2.0 RV is 4 years 50% residual value.
5.) 1.8 car pay less road tax while power consider similar to 2.0.
6.) TCM service are well known to be good, while NAZA service are well known to be bad.

Conclusion Nissan Sylphy obviously better choice. thumbup.gif

Best of all when U choose Nissan Sylphy U get to see Dr. Jayraptor jumping up & down. laugh.gif

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what about kia 1.6 engine? as bad as well?

i think looks are very individual...both acceptable to me.

RV, I'm not so sure....seems like Nissan RV is as bad as kimchi made, probably even worse..just look at the resale value of Latio and Sylphy (previous gen)...

QUOTE(jolokia @ May 6 2014, 09:11 AM)
Definately Sylphy.

1.) Nissan engine are more reliable than KIA engine, KIA NU 2.0 engine had received many bad critic of been not unrefined, high fuel consumption.
2.) Nissan CVT gearbox are known to be smooth as silk, wherelse KIA gearbox r known to be missmatch to its engine.
3.) Nissan Sylphy look much better than KIA Cerato, the Cerato design simply look overdoned & odd.
4.) RV ! just look at how bad Forte 2.0 RV is 4 years 50% residual value.
5.) 1.8 car pay less road tax while power consider similar to 2.0.
6.) TCM service are well known to be good, while NAZA service are well known to be bad.

Conclusion Nissan Sylphy obviously better choice.  thumbup.gif

Best of all when U choose Nissan Sylphy U get to see Dr. Jayraptor jumping up & down.  laugh.gif
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what about kia 1.6 engine? as bad as well?

i think looks are very individual...both acceptable to me.

RV, I'm not so sure....seems like Nissan RV is as bad as kimchi made, probably even worse..just look at the resale value of Latio and Sylphy (previous gen)...
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KIA 1.6 engine also nothing tp shout about, unrefined problem still there.

Cerato front look like a cockroach ..lol Back light really overdone.

Resale value must base on percentages of losses, base on purchase price Forte 2.0 still worst than Sylphy.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 6 2014, 09:11 AM)
Definately Sylphy.

1.) Nissan engine are more reliable than KIA engine, KIA NU 2.0 engine had received many bad critic of been not unrefined, high fuel consumption.
2.) Nissan CVT gearbox are known to be smooth as silk, wherelse KIA gearbox r known to be missmatch to its engine.
3.) Nissan Sylphy look much better than KIA Cerato, the Cerato design simply look overdoned & odd.
4.) RV ! just look at how bad Forte 2.0 RV is 4 years 50% residual value.
5.) 1.8 car pay less road tax while power consider similar to 2.0.
6.) TCM service are well known to be good, while NAZA service are well known to be bad.

Conclusion Nissan Sylphy obviously better choice.  thumbup.gif
This is incorrect for sure and you know it. Sylphy is 131PS, 174Nm while Cerato 2.0 is 161PS, 194Nm which is big difference not 'similar' plus Sylphy is CVT which isnt designed for raw power. Plus the Cerato comes with better specs and a better design. Its still sportier than the Sylphy despite the odd rear. Resale value for Sylphy isnt great either and surely no where compared to Toyota and Honda. Plus Cerato 2.0 now going for 115K (OTR) with 3 years free servicing (parts and labor).

Lets give credit where its due.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 6 2014, 12:02 PM)
This is incorrect for sure and you know it. Sylphy is 131PS, 174Nm while Cerato 2.0 is 161PS, 194Nm which is big difference not 'similar' plus Sylphy is CVT which isnt designed for raw power. Plus the Cerato comes with better specs and a better design. Its still sportier than the Sylphy despite the odd rear. Resale value for Sylphy isnt great either and surely no where compared to Toyota and Honda. Plus Cerato 2.0 now going for 115K (OTR) with 3 years free servicing (parts and labor).

Lets give credit where its due.
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Bro, have you tested the Sylphy and Cerato? If not, please go to test drive it first, after that you will know why the Sylphy get a quite good review from overseas reviewer. Sylphy is sharing the chassis with Renault, Sylphy doesn't really drive like a Japanese, it drives more like Conti, just the suspension setup not as firm as most of the Conti! For the Cerato, just for get about it, high speed cruising not stable and handling....., design some people find it sporty, but some find it odd and funny.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ May 6 2014, 01:00 PM)
Bro, have you tested the Sylphy and Cerato? If not, please go to test drive it first, after that you will know why the Sylphy get a quite good review from overseas reviewer. Sylphy is sharing the chassis with Renault, Sylphy doesn't really drive like a Japanese, it drives more like Conti, just the suspension setup not as firm as most of the Conti! For the Cerato, just for get about it, high speed cruising not stable and handling....., design some people find it sporty, but some find it odd and funny.
Bro, if u knew me well enough u would know that i love test driving cars. I do it quite regularly on weekends when im bored. So yes i have tested both the Sylphy and the Cerato. Both are no where close to Conti handling so its pointless even comparing to Contis in the first place. But the Cerato handles much better then the previous Forte and its a step above the Sylphy handling which is more tuned for comfort.

And to rebut your comment above on the high speed cruising, this is what Paultan had to say about the Cerato:

'at higher speeds it feels solid and certain (provided you’re not being silly), staying flat-ish and mostly neutral on the quick stuff'




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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 6 2014, 12:02 PM)
This is incorrect for sure and you know it. Sylphy is 131PS, 174Nm while Cerato 2.0 is 161PS, 194Nm which is big difference not 'similar' plus Sylphy is CVT which isnt designed for raw power. Plus the Cerato comes with better specs and a better design. Its still sportier than the Sylphy despite the odd rear. Resale value for Sylphy isnt great either and surely no where compared to Toyota and Honda. Plus Cerato 2.0 now going for 115K (OTR) with 3 years free servicing (parts and labor).

Lets give credit where its due.
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I haven't seen the dyno chart of both cars but there is a good chance that the Sylphy actually may return higher torque and hp output than the Cerato can thanks to the CVT gearbox. Despite what's written on their website, the actual results can be quite different.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ May 6 2014, 01:43 PM)
I haven't seen the dyno chart of both cars but there is a good chance that the Sylphy actually may return higher torque and hp output than the Cerato can thanks to the CVT gearbox. Despite what's written on their website, the actual results can be quite different.
Could be but the Cerato clearly has better acceleration. But thats expected.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 6 2014, 12:02 PM)
This is incorrect for sure and you know it. Sylphy is 131PS, 174Nm while Cerato 2.0 is 161PS, 194Nm which is big difference not 'similar' plus Sylphy is CVT which isnt designed for raw power. Plus the Cerato comes with better specs and a better design. Its still sportier than the Sylphy despite the odd rear. Resale value for Sylphy isnt great either and surely no where compared to Toyota and Honda. Plus Cerato 2.0 now going for 115K (OTR) with 3 years free servicing (parts and labor).

Lets give credit where its due.
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In many car review i read, i usually get this comment about KIA/Hyundai Car (The engine doesn't feel like producing the claimed HP) laugh.gif

Don't forget Slyphy weigh 50kgs less.

Is KIA RV any closer to Toyota & Honda then ?

Like it or not Korean car still deem 1 grade lower that Japanese, same like German car is 1 grade higher than Japanese & Malaysian car is 1 grade lowert than korean & China car 1 grde lower than of Malaysian.

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Fully Agreed... Test drive both car and during test, do also sit at the rear seat when your SA drive the car.. u will able to tell the difference... Look at the floor finishing of Cerato too... sad.gif..... hmm.gif
Is a difference world ........
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 6 2014, 02:10 PM)
In many car review i read, i usually get this comment about KIA/Hyundai Car (The engine doesn't feel like producing the claimed HP)  laugh.gif

Don't forget Slyphy weigh 50kgs less.

Is KIA RV any closer to Toyota & Honda then ?

Like it or not Korean car still deem 1 grade lower that Japanese, same like German car is 1 grade higher than Japanese & Malaysian car is 1 grade lowert than korean & China car 1 grde lower than of Malaysian.

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No problem with your comments. Just that we should share facts which are true and not mislead.

Anyway, the review from Driven on Paultan is quite comprehensive:

http://paultan.org/2013/07/04/driven-kia-c...alaysian-roads/

Key positive points raised for the Cerato was build quality, ergonomics, impressive acceleration, engine does not lose out to its rivals both in performance or refinement, 7.0L/100km combined cycle FC consumption for the 2.0L, car feels solid and stable at higher speeds.

So Paultan is wrong eh? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Unkle Leo @ May 6 2014, 02:26 PM)
Fully Agreed... Test drive both car and during test, do also sit at the rear seat when your SA drive the car.. u will able to tell the difference... Look at the floor finishing of Cerato too... sad.gif..... hmm.gif
Is a difference world ........
Why your SA driving the car? hmm.gif

When i test drive i make sure i sit in all the seats. And i always bring between 1 to 3 ppl to test so that you get variation. Also test at different showrooms to get a better feel of the car under different driving conditions.
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So Paultan is wrong eh?  hmm.gif
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By no means of disrespect to him.... he's an 'automotive blogger' with lotsa experience and exposure but that don't make him a god or make whatever he says' a gospel truth. So yeah it's plausible for him to be wrong.
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QUOTE(AmenoJaku @ May 6 2014, 03:06 PM)
By no means of disrespect to him.... he's an 'automotive blogger' with lotsa experience and exposure but that don't make him a god or make whatever he says' a gospel truth. So yeah it's plausible for him to be wrong.
Nobody said he's God but Ill take his word over 95% of the LYN forumers here and that includes ALL of us here on this thread.

(P/S: He aint just any run of the mill automotive blogger. Go check out his team's credentials)

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 6 2014, 02:50 PM)
No problem with your comments. Just that we should share facts which are true and not mislead.

Anyway, the review from Driven on Paultan is quite comprehensive:

http://paultan.org/2013/07/04/driven-kia-c...alaysian-roads/

Key positive points raised for the Cerato was build quality, ergonomics, impressive acceleration, engine does not lose out to its rivals both in performance or refinement, 7.0L/100km combined cycle FC consumption for the 2.0L, car feels solid and stable at higher speeds.

So Paultan is wrong eh?  hmm.gif
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His not wrong but need advertisement to keep his blog alive & pay salary to his staff & feed himself, think he dare to tell you the "truth"

7ltr/100km ? hope they don't get sue like that in USA...wakakaka
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 6 2014, 03:41 PM)
His not wrong but need advertisement to keep his blog alive & pay salary to his staff & feed himself, think he dare to tell you the "truth"

7ltr/100km ? hope they don't get sue like that in USA...wakakaka
Yes i trust him and yes he speaks the truth because he has bashed and promoted models when required which is a far cry from what the bloggers at CBT are doing. Ure more than welcome to prove him wrong...if u can.

Anyway, 7L/100km is advertised figures so real world figures would be higher for sure. Same with many other makes.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 6 2014, 03:57 PM)
Yes i trust him and yes he speaks the truth because he has bashed and promoted models when required which is a far cry from what the bloggers at CBT are doing. Ure more than welcome to prove him wrong...if u can.

Anyway, 7L/100km is advertised figures so real world figures would be higher for sure. Same with many other makes.
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Honestly I haven't read any Paultan review on the Cerato, but based on my tested result, Cerato handling far from to be called good. And I'm not talking the Sylphy handling is comparable to the Conti, but what I trying to said is whenever I drive a conti, the first impression is the superior chassis, and the Sylphy give me the same feeling. Actually the Teana J32 also can get the same feeling on the chassis, this is largely because of the Renault. By the way, I'm not here to prove Paultan wrong or whatever, MAYBE [U]Paultan tested the Cerato has been purposely modified to get good review or whatever, but the real world of the Cerato is quite different from what Paultan said!
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 6 2014, 03:17 PM)
Nobody said he's God but Ill take his word over 95% of the LYN forumers here and that includes ALL of us here on this thread.

(P/S: He aint just any run of the mill automotive blogger. Go check out his team's credentials)
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No you didn't say it explicitly but it was implied. As though his team's 'opinion' = 'facts'.
And thus anyone who deviate from PT's findings is wrong. If that's the case, then there's no point discussing here.
Might as well directly accept what PT says, or pm the 5% whom you believe.



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QUOTE(AmenoJaku @ May 6 2014, 05:30 PM)
No you didn't say it explicitly but it was implied. As though his team's 'opinion' = 'facts'.
And thus anyone who deviate from PT's findings is wrong. If that's the case, then there's no point discussing here.
Might as well directly accept what PT says, or pm the 5% whom you believe.
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Let's agree to disagree, shall we..

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U don't try to tipu ah ! I lived in a area where one can find a used car dealer almost every few hundred meter, i see most very reluctant to take korean car, mostly Toyoda, Honta & our N brand, most of them said korean car ah !!! very susah jual one oh ! don't wan lah, even those who willing to take also potong price kao2.

I se some of those korean car including your Forte, lying in the used car dealer collecting dust long long also no taker, those Spectra, Avante, Citra lagi teruk, only those really ulu type used car dealer would take.

Our N brand even old2 Sentra also they would take.  flex.gif

U very worry now mah ! U got nothing else to pin point at our new Nissan Sylphy because it's really a deal breaker, Full Safety features for all range, NTHSA, ANCAP crash test compliance, New dual VVT engine, new big first gear CVT, price even more attractive then your overprice korean car.  rclxm9.gif

How come u didn;t go for test drive & write review ? don't forget to bring 3 big size fellow with you, do crazy zig zag stunt handling test, 2 liters fuel drive till engine stalled test, sand bag at trunk drag test & reverse gear up hill test, & post here & autoworld... we are eager awaiting ..  whistling.gif
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No need to lie, everyone can see with their own eyes. Funniest thing is a bunch of idiots who never bought used cars at all especially present day trying to claim like they know much about used car market. FYI, as long as the Korean car is Forte and newer generations, used car dealers are more than happy to accept them at good price. Used car dealers are selling Korean cars quite expensive nowadays with little discount. As for Japanese brands apart from Toyota and Honda, Mazda 3/6 with VVT also had improved RV. When comes to your rubbish N-brand, the RV is poor that used car dealers would either avoid or only willing to accept very low trade in price. Used Forte would sell at good price and don't stay long on the yard nowadays due to its practicality, reliability and quality.

Report I received from your technical department staff about N-brand new Sylphy launch and over the weekend, when I heard of it, I feel bad for you. The number of visitors actually not many, considered little. That shows the public reception towards your new Sylphy is poor. Even the few largest showrooms you've got don't get many visitors despite the Sylphy C-segment is supposed to be 1 of your primary model. It's as worse as Navara pickup launch.

I was too busy lately to go test drive. Just 1 of my car enthusiast buddies went, said design is totally ugly. Interior space is just average, even legroom is no match against Elantra/Cerato. Interior width just normal, only thing better than Altis is the side headroom space on C-pillar. Other than that, nothing more. Again no split fold which is 1 big minus point.

On road test, handling is just average, soft suspension, bodyroll. No match against other C-segments. Acceleration is ok, strength is ok not that fast anyway, less responsive compared to new generation conventional 6AT, 7AT gearbox. The seats aren't even big enough to be comfortable, just soft. Final verdict, he won't buy this Sylphy looking at that many better competitors. If wanted comfort, better take Altis. If wanted best value for money, take Elantra/Cerato. If wanted performance & handling, go for either Focus, Mazda 3, VW Jetta, Citroen DS4.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ May 6 2014, 04:24 PM)
Honestly I haven't read any Paultan review on the Cerato, but based on my tested result, Cerato handling far from to be called good. And I'm not talking the Sylphy handling is comparable to the Conti, but what I trying to said is whenever I drive a conti, the first impression is the superior chassis, and the Sylphy give me the same feeling. Actually the Teana J32 also can get the same feeling on the chassis, this is largely because of the Renault. By the way, I'm not here to prove Paultan wrong or whatever, MAYBE [U]Paultan tested the Cerato has been purposely modified to get good review or whatever, but the real world of the Cerato is quite different from what Paultan said!
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Are you forgetting that Forte/Cerato involved in touring car race in US? Cerato is considered having good handling for torsion beam suspension category. FYI, the Cerato's handling can actually beat your Teana fitted with multi-link rear suspension. Renault is using the same bone chassis frame but the unibody and suspension are totally different. That is why your low quality N-brand products failed handling.

Lol! First time I see you & jolokia attacking stupid Paul. Ofcourse, that idiot Paul would prefer watching over their own interest rather than eating your infection especially more and more people know more about Korean cars actual quality & ride nowadays. Even CBT is slowly getting back to facts as they knew they would lose readers by being unethical and came up with made up fake claim to defame a car. Or maybe you bunch could no longer afford to infect these journalists due to bad sales. No money, shoo!! They care more about cash than your friendship, just like you, everything is only money.

As for your new Sylphy, already told you not to launch too late. The new replacement Lannia Bluebird is already revealed, you think people will be that dumb to buy a car that is going to phase out soon? Not anymore, unlike back then, there's internet and smart phone where they can get the latest info straight from Japan, US, China, etc.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 5 2014, 07:38 PM)
ok, Sylphy vs Cerato 2.0....which one would you choose and why?

am contemplating between civic, sylphy and cerato,,,
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I would choose Cerato 2.0 because of its high build quality, reliability, durability, practicality, cheaper maintenance and spare parts. Also better performance and handling + nicer interior and more spacious inside with split fold.

No split fold in Sylphy means owner will always have to call for lorry to carry items that are slightly larger such as bicycle, mattress, or just many things to put in at a time. This means poor practicality, little thing call lorry and pay shipping cost or having to go 2 trips.
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i think if TC sets the price of high spec at 115k, i guess it will attract more people
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I would choose Cerato 2.0 because of its high build quality, reliability, durability, practicality, cheaper maintenance and spare parts. Also better performance and handling + nicer interior and more spacious inside with split fold.

No split fold in Sylphy means owner will always have to call for lorry to carry items that are slightly larger such as bicycle, mattress, or just many things to put in at a time. This means poor practicality, little thing call lorry and pay shipping cost or having to go 2 trips.
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Mattress wakakaka u try & fit in even a Queen Size mattress & show me...lol

I would definitely choose Sylphy, more comfortable, more reliable, Nissan engine is well proven to be ultra reliable, super smooth CVT gearbox, Sylphy doesn't like a weird creature Cerato.

In conclusion Sylphy is the better choice even when compare to a Altis, Civic & Elantra (overpriced & less safety features).
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QUOTE(towar @ May 8 2014, 09:39 PM)
try borrowing a car from someone. u dont have friends or family ?
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Since he loved to transport big furniture by himself so much, he should consider Nissan Navara sure can carry mattress & bicycle. ..wakakaka
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Since he loved to transport big furniture by himself so much, he should consider Nissan Navara sure can carry mattress & bicycle. ..wakakaka
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Only carry smaller goods meh?

I heart can be carry aircraft front wheel too
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i think if TC sets the price of high spec at 115k, i guess it will attract more people
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No such thing...TC to be used brick to smashed own foot.

Like that to be fair from previous Sylphy owner.
And also drop price = more worst quality
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Are you forgetting that Forte/Cerato involved in touring car race in US? Cerato is considered having good handling for torsion beam suspension category. FYI, the Cerato's handling can actually beat your Teana fitted with multi-link rear suspension. Renault is using the same bone chassis frame but the unibody and suspension are totally different. That is why your low quality N-brand products failed handling.

Lol! First time I see you & jolokia attacking stupid Paul. Ofcourse, that idiot Paul would prefer watching over their own interest rather than eating your infection especially more and more people know more about Korean cars actual quality & ride nowadays. Even CBT is slowly getting back to facts as they knew they would lose readers by being unethical and came up with made up fake claim to defame a car. Or maybe you bunch could no longer afford to infect these journalists due to bad sales. No money, shoo!! They care more about cash than your friendship, just like you, everything is only money.

As for your new Sylphy, already told you not to launch too late. The new replacement Lannia Bluebird is already revealed, you think people will be that dumb to buy a car that is going to phase out soon? Not anymore, unlike back then, there's internet and smart phone where they can get the latest info straight from Japan, US, China, etc.
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DR can explain why?
Almost your topic to be compare from kimchi car to sushi car specs?

Any reason Cerato not selling well?
And do your free Ads here?

Don't worry to be wait my sentra can't walk and diffidently support you.

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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 8 2014, 09:40 PM)
Mattress wakakaka u try & fit in even a Queen Size mattress & show me...lol

I would definitely choose Sylphy, more comfortable,  more reliable,  Nissan engine is well proven to be ultra reliable,  super smooth CVT gearbox,  Sylphy doesn't like a weird creature Cerato.

In conclusion Sylphy is the better choice even when compare to a Altis, Civic & Elantra (overpriced & less safety features).
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Apart from foldable mattresses, there are many types of household items that require split fold in order to fit into the car. Buy a car that has splitfold could save you lots of unnecessary spending which is practical.

Unlike your Sylphy and Almera, just happen to find your son or daughter stranded few kilometers outside seeking shelter while riding a bicycle evading heavy rain, you can't get the bicycle to fit in your RM115k Sylphy. You can either wait with your kid for the rain to stop OR you leave with your kid but without the bicycle OR you call in lorry to get the bicycle home separately in which the rain might have stop by the time it arrives.

In conclusion, they Sylphy is worst choice at bottom 2 on the list together with Civic. Don't bother buying as the new model might launch anytime this year end or next year. Elantra and Altis are better choice with high score on most aspects. If got more money, buy Mazda 3, it has splitfold too.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 9 2014, 07:09 AM)
DR can explain why?
Almost your topic to be compare from kimchi car to sushi car specs?

Any reason Cerato not selling well?
And do your free Ads here?

Don't worry to be wait my sentra can't walk and diffidently support you.

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With NASA attitude of management, don't expect the Cerato to sell better than Elantra. Even so, the Cerato still selling in healthy numbers until spare part suppliers outside bring in bulk spare parts for them. Besides, Kia from Forte and newer generations RV have been good and steady nowadays. Apart from management strategy, the demand from public itself determines the value and sales of the product.

The Cerato in your pic got bang by someone else rather than losing control. Better check these photos below where your crap products failed handling that they lost control on straight highway and crashed itself. Nobody bang them anyway.






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@jayraptor, are you saying there will be new civic this year?

QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 10 2014, 06:37 PM)
Apart from foldable mattresses, there are many types of household items that require split fold in order to fit into the car. Buy a car that has splitfold could save you lots of unnecessary spending which is practical.

Unlike your Sylphy and Almera, just happen to find your son or daughter stranded few kilometers outside seeking shelter while riding a bicycle evading heavy rain, you can't get the bicycle to fit in your RM115k Sylphy. You can either wait with your kid for the rain to stop OR you leave with your kid but without the bicycle OR you call in lorry to get the bicycle home separately in which the rain might have stop by the time it arrives.

In conclusion, they Sylphy is worst choice at bottom 2 on the list together with Civic. Don't bother buying as the new model might launch anytime this year end or next year. Elantra and Altis are better choice with high score on most aspects. If got more money, buy Mazda 3, it has splitfold too.
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Still better than a Toyota by miles.

Nissan is like the Lenovo or HTC in phones. Not much marketing but make good phones also but not many people will appreciate it due to lack of marketing.
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@jayraptor, are you saying there will be new civic this year?
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I meant the new Bluebird Lannia which is a C-segment unveiled in China.
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With NASA attitude of management, don't expect the Cerato to sell better than Elantra. Even so, the Cerato still selling in healthy numbers until spare part suppliers outside bring in bulk spare parts for them. Besides, Kia from Forte and newer generations RV have been good and steady nowadays. Apart from management strategy, the demand from public itself determines the value and sales of the product.

The Cerato in your pic got bang by someone else rather than losing control. Better check these photos below where your crap products failed handling that they lost control on straight highway and crashed itself. Nobody bang them anyway.
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Jaycrap, don't be day dreaming lar, since when the Cerato has high built quality than Sylphy, once tested you will know what is called high quality, but too pity, you are too lazy to go to test drive, just like to sit in front computer to talk cock! doh.gif By the way, since when the Forte RV is good arr? Until now still a lot of used car dealer refuse to accept Korean car, even now the Korean has very good plastic surgery technic. Look good at the outside, bad in the inside.
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havent seen a single new sylphy on the road yet
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 8 2014, 08:54 PM)
No need to lie, everyone can see with their own eyes. Funniest thing is a bunch of idiots who never bought used cars at all especially present day trying to claim like they know much about used car market. FYI, as long as the Korean car is Forte and newer generations, used car dealers are more than happy to accept them at good price. Used car dealers are selling Korean cars quite expensive nowadays with little discount. As for Japanese brands apart from Toyota and Honda, Mazda 3/6 with VVT also had improved RV. When comes to your rubbish N-brand, the RV is poor that used car dealers would either avoid or only willing to accept very low trade in price. Used Forte would sell at good price and don't stay long on the yard nowadays due to its practicality, reliability and quality.

Report I received from your technical department staff about N-brand new Sylphy launch and over the weekend, when I heard of it, I feel bad for you. The number of visitors actually not many, considered little. That shows the public reception towards your new Sylphy is poor. Even the few largest showrooms you've got don't get many visitors despite the Sylphy C-segment is supposed to be 1 of your primary model. It's as worse as Navara pickup launch.

I was too busy lately to go test drive. Just 1 of my car enthusiast buddies went, said design is totally ugly. Interior space is just average, even legroom is no match against Elantra/Cerato. Interior width just normal, only thing better than Altis is the side headroom space on C-pillar. Other than that, nothing more. Again no split fold which is 1 big minus point.

On road test, handling is just average, soft suspension, bodyroll. No match against other C-segments. Acceleration is ok, strength is ok not that fast anyway, less responsive compared to new generation conventional 6AT, 7AT gearbox. The seats aren't even big enough to be comfortable, just soft. Final verdict, he won't buy this Sylphy looking at that many better competitors. If wanted comfort, better take Altis. If wanted best value for money, take Elantra/Cerato. If wanted performance & handling, go for either Focus, Mazda 3, VW Jetta, Citroen DS4.
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See I don't even have much time to layan u, very busy launching "our" US standard Nissan Sylphy/Sentra.

Packed with visitors. .lol

Ur laoya Forte many used car don't accept, one of my buddies wanna get rid of his Forte, but find it very difficult most used car dealer don't accept or quote very bad RV.

No time for u, tomorrow another busy day at showroom. ..wakakaka
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havent seen a single new sylphy on the road yet
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 10 2014, 07:30 PM)
I meant the new Bluebird Lannia which is a C-segment unveiled in China.
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Concept car only lah u nincompoop !

Make sure ur laoya KIAsu & Hontai don't copy it & claims yours. .
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QUOTE(towar @ May 8 2014, 09:41 PM)
in touring car all the suspension n chassis have been modified. no longer bares any relation to the road car except for the bodyshell.
first time i hear torsion beam having better handling that multi link. dont try to cheat customers with your made up lies.
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For him Proton Rally car also use Campro engine & stock suspension. ..lol

He never drive a multi link suspension car he wouldn't know the different.

Best car he drive in his life is NAZA Forte EX kosong 4 speed auto with steel rim.

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Just go back from Nissan showroom to look Nissan sylphy. Sadly, they only have E spec. For RM115K price, what can I say for interior, the built quality like material, fit and finish is good. I like a dashboard design and it look premium. I have seat at the back and I feel normal seat trim is not too comfort. Hope a leather seat is more comfort/plush like a previous sylphy.

Asked the salesman about isofix, and he told me, sylphy didn't have it. quite disappointed since it has other safety features. If u can spend RM125K and love sylphy , better get V spec. RM10K give a lot of equipment.

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i had a test drive yesterday.. at Nissan Shah Alam..

From what the SA told me..
- Launching of Sylphy wasn't really TC plan.. They were focusing more towards the Teana launching but somehow they decided to launch this first..
- 1.8 VL will only be available in July onwards, be it the selling unit or the test drive unit.
- At this moment, TC has received 400 orders (excluding orders made yesterday), so big chances you can be the first 1000, which will be entitled for solargard free tinting..

From my test drive..
- 1st impression.. Interior is damnn hugeeeeeeeeee.... biggrin.gif
- I broght my wife and daughter along, just to check hows the space. After i adjusted my seat, i realized that rear space behind me is freaking spacious.. You can put a crt monitor there literally..
- No chance to floor the paddle.. So i cant comment on its acceleration and stability at high speed..
- No chance to test sharp cornering either.. so no comment about the slightly bode roll people been saying about..
- Sport mode is a selling point. It serves its function. Unlike the overdrive mode in any other car, this is different in a way the gear will shift up / down.. Overdrive will stick in same gear.
- I like the feeling when you press the sport button.. It rev really from 2000rpm to 4000rpm at once. Not sure about the FC in this mide though..
- Cabin was quiet. Both brother in law are driving camry and the new altis, and it is safe to say this car is better in sound insulation.. Tyre noise is noticable, but at a very very very reasonable level.

Aesthetic:
- Design was uncle kind.. but to serve a loan for 9 years, i rather have a full uncle kind and not like altis which have uncle from rear n ah beng from in front..
- I dont like the manual AC dial in the E variant. VL variant auto AC suit the dashboard design better..
- Some of you may notice, the gap between the door and the dashboard when the door is closed. its quite obvious.
- Rear boot space claimed to be 510L, but with the odd shape inside it, it think the space in altis is better. And if you have chance to have a look, try to touch the rear boot side cover, its loose to me..

I have actually went to Honda yeaterday to check out civic, after finish with Nissan. When i first went into the car, I completely understand what people is fuss about The interior is soooo plasssticccccc... unlike Altis or Nissan..

I havent decide which one to go, ,maybe will go for few more test drive first.. But at this point, despite few things that didnt meet my expectation, I will say that Nissan Sylphy 1.8 is better than Toyota Altis 1.8. Honda Civic 1.8 is out of the league..
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QUOTE(Sawamura @ May 11 2014, 10:45 AM)
i had a test drive yesterday.. at Nissan Shah Alam..

From what the SA told me..

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Wow..u got a chance to test drive it. I just look and get inside to feel the touch. BTW, I agree with you that the new Nissan sylphy had focus on interior especially the dashboard, NVH level for comfort and power delivery/refinement. I heard the previous sylphy has a good NVH and very comfort leather seat. But I don't have test it. Hope the leather seat in this new model will give the same feeling.

I like the exterior too. it might be look conservative, but I believe Nissan know the target buyer for their car.
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nissan has been known for boring design but with very good comfort, NVH and good engine/gearbox. but i guess the design for this generation of car is way better than the previous ones.

having said that, i think TC screw up in terms of bringing in only the low spec for display and also to price their car at altis/civic price point. while nissan has a good car, but i dont think they have the brand image yet. if they can price almera so low, why cant they use the same strategy for sylphy and teana?

TC has to remember that nowadays they have to compete with the very attractively spec-ed and priced korean cars, on top of their japs rivals.

QUOTE(Sawamura @ May 11 2014, 10:45 AM)
i had a test drive yesterday.. at Nissan Shah Alam..

From what the SA told me..
- Launching of Sylphy wasn't really TC plan.. They were focusing more towards the Teana launching but somehow they decided to launch this first..
- 1.8 VL will only be available in July onwards, be it the selling unit or the test drive unit.
- At this moment, TC has received 400 orders (excluding orders made yesterday), so big chances you can be the first 1000, which will be entitled for solargard free tinting..

From my test drive..
- 1st impression.. Interior is damnn hugeeeeeeeeee.... biggrin.gif
- I broght my wife and daughter along, just to check hows the space. After i adjusted my seat, i realized that rear space behind me is freaking spacious.. You can put a crt monitor there literally..
- No chance to floor the paddle.. So i cant comment on its acceleration and stability at high speed..
- No chance to test sharp cornering either.. so no comment about the slightly bode roll people been saying about..
- Sport mode is a selling point. It serves its function. Unlike the overdrive mode in any other car, this is different in a way the gear will shift up / down.. Overdrive will stick in same gear.
- I like the feeling when you press the sport button.. It rev really from 2000rpm to 4000rpm at once. Not sure about the FC in this mide though..
- Cabin was quiet. Both brother in law are driving camry and the new altis, and it is safe to say this car is better in sound insulation.. Tyre noise is noticable, but at a very very very reasonable level.

Aesthetic:
- Design was uncle kind.. but to serve a loan for 9 years, i rather have a full uncle kind and not like altis which have uncle from rear n ah beng from in front..
- I dont like the manual AC dial in the E variant. VL variant auto AC suit the dashboard design better..
- Some of you may notice, the gap between the door and the dashboard when the door is closed. its quite obvious.
- Rear boot space claimed to be 510L, but with the odd shape inside it, it think the space in altis is better. And if you have chance to have a look, try to touch the rear boot side cover, its loose to me..

I have actually went to Honda yeaterday to check out civic, after finish with Nissan. When i first went into the car, I completely understand what people is fuss about The interior is soooo plasssticccccc... unlike Altis or Nissan..

I havent decide which one to go, ,maybe will go for few more test drive first.. But at this point, despite few things that didnt meet my expectation, I will say that Nissan Sylphy 1.8 is better than Toyota Altis 1.8. Honda Civic 1.8 is out of the league..
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QUOTE(Sawamura @ May 11 2014, 10:45 AM)
i had a test drive yesterday.. at Nissan Shah Alam..

From what the SA told me..
- Launching of Sylphy wasn't really TC plan.. They were focusing more towards the Teana launching but somehow they decided to launch this first..
- 1.8 VL will only be available in July onwards, be it the selling unit or the test drive unit.
- At this moment, TC has received 400 orders (excluding orders made yesterday), so big chances you can be the first 1000, which will be entitled for solargard free tinting..

From my test drive..
- 1st impression.. Interior is damnn hugeeeeeeeeee.... biggrin.gif
- I broght my wife and daughter along, just to check hows the space. After i adjusted my seat, i realized that rear space behind me is freaking spacious.. You can put a crt monitor there literally..
- No chance to floor the paddle.. So i cant comment on its acceleration and stability at high speed..
- No chance to test sharp cornering either.. so no comment about the slightly bode roll people been saying about..
- Sport mode is a selling point. It serves its function. Unlike the overdrive mode in any other car, this is different in a way the gear will shift up / down.. Overdrive will stick in same gear.
- I like the feeling when you press the sport button.. It rev really from 2000rpm to 4000rpm at once. Not sure about the FC in this mide though..
- Cabin was quiet. Both brother in law are driving camry and the new altis, and it is safe to say this car is better in sound insulation.. Tyre noise is noticable, but at a very very very reasonable level.

Aesthetic:
- Design was uncle kind.. but to serve a loan for 9 years, i rather have a full uncle kind and not like altis which have uncle from rear n ah beng from in front..
- I dont like the manual AC dial in the E variant. VL variant auto AC suit the dashboard design better..
- Some of you may notice, the gap between the door and the dashboard when the door is closed. its quite obvious.
- Rear boot space claimed to be 510L, but with the odd shape inside it, it think the space in altis is better. And if you have chance to have a look, try to touch the rear boot side cover, its loose to me..

I have actually went to Honda yeaterday to check out civic, after finish with Nissan. When i first went into the car, I completely understand what people is fuss about The interior is soooo plasssticccccc... unlike Altis or Nissan..

I havent decide which one to go, ,maybe will go for few more test drive first.. But at this point, despite few things that didnt meet my expectation, I will say that Nissan Sylphy 1.8 is better than Toyota Altis 1.8. Honda Civic 1.8 is out of the league..
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THanks for the insight.

The interior of the car is certainly huge. The width of the car has been increased from the old model, making it slightly wider. And yes, the rear legroom and space are, very spacious. Previously I can put an egg tray at the floor of the back seat. Now with my new car(Ford Focus), the egg tray cannot fit in the tight space. For the comfort of passengers at the rear, the Sylphy surely delivers. You can even cross you leg when sitting at the back seat while at it. :-)

Sports mode in the Sylphy is one of a kind. Yes, once the button is pressed, the rpms shoot up linearly, coupled by the roar from the engine that is also linearly increasing. It's a nice feeling to hear the revs of the engine going up linearly and the vehicle accelerating smoothly once the Sports mode is engaged. FC is surely worse if you use the Sports mode frequently.

Quietness of the cabin in the old Sylphy, to me, is excellent. Good to hear that you found the Camry and new Altis to be not as quiet as this new Sylphy. Tyres on new stock vehicles are usually entry or mid level tyres, not so quiet. Though I believe the car will be even quieter if the tyres are swapped to some costlier silent ones.

The aesthetics(interior and exterior) of the old Sylphy is more "uncle" to me. This new Sylphy although conservative looks more modern now. Similarly I share the same opinion, or should I say preference on the Sylphy vs Altis. I do not like the rear looks of the new Altis, especially the shape of the lights which looked weird.

Not too sure if the (large?) gap between the door and dashboard is due to poor QAQC in the test-drive unit. The fit and finish of the Sylphy in my experience is usually high.

Similarly I felt the Honda Civic is already out of the running. Sylphy and Altis should be in the forefront, higher sales of the Altis spurred by the Toyota brand name. The Sylphy sells for its overall design and performance, though will probably lose out in sales to the Altis due to a "less recognised" brand name with slightly lower resale. Though the Sylphy is certainly a strong contender now with a much improved design from its predecessor.

I am considering to trade in my Proton Preve Turbo to this new Sylphy if the engine continues to get noisier in time. A deja vu since I have owned the (previous model) Sylphy for 5 years.

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Today is my 1st impressive after test drove on new Sylphy.

- 1st you look at overall design was so so like current Teana, when door open and close feel more solid and thicken for side impact.
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- Bigger break disc, more 30% from previous model, and very accurate with sharp breaking.
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- Front tangki impact bar more gap in between to engine and condenser, can be reduce smaller bang on front and broken tangki.
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- Power wise for me, i am still prefer my current 2.0L more accurate speed up, wont be feel like very wired power.
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- Door penal design, more cutting cost for plastic finished on top part, i still prefer old one.
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- Armrest more useful for slide to front.
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- Seat no comment, due to fibric surface... don't tell me, your current more comfort, because of leather seat.
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- Top of dashboard built-in soft material.
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Overall conclusion:
- Power still old one more power, new one maybe 1.8L feel like more smooth and not really fast for pickup, for me 1.8L feel like much better than livina 1.8L pickup, but still can't compare to 2.0L current Sylphy.. when you never drove 2.0L Sylphy you can't knew anything from between. thumbup.gif
- New CVT yes more smooth, but still got sound once reached to 3.5-4K PRM. (Old one pickup never reached to 4K PRM, maybe more higher torque)
- Overall new Sylphy feel like more quiet than older one, maybe comes with better donuts.
- Interior feel like smaller than current one 2.0L, maybe interior is dark packaged.
- Premium feel still on current one with wooden finished and newer more into sport line.
- Cornering more sharp and breaking system more accurate, unlike old one have to break distance before close to front.
- IF i never own current one, sure i would buy new one 1.8L Full specs.

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ May 11 2014, 04:54 PM)
price?

looks the same...no improvement from previous model.
boring interior.
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Price can check in www.nissan.com.my
Improvement from safety feature and breaking more accurate and sharp with stable on corning rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 11 2014, 04:43 PM)
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From your picture the rear light on boot cover does not light up. Are they designed like this? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(randoll @ May 11 2014, 05:03 PM)
From your picture the rear light on boot cover does not light up. Are they designed like this?  hmm.gif
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rear boot light got light.. i never took on rear boot compartment icon_idea.gif
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yup, there is rear boot light. big bulk hanging on the top of the boot. lol
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 11 2014, 05:05 PM)
rear boot light got light.. i never took on rear boot compartment  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(chizzu @ May 11 2014, 07:41 PM)
yup, there is rear boot light. big bulk hanging on the top of the boot. lol
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Guys, he was questioning about the "inner part" of the rear light which positioned on the boot lid yawn.gif
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ May 11 2014, 09:35 PM)
Guys, he was questioning about the "inner part" of the rear light which positioned on the boot lid  yawn.gif
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Huh that is common sense leh... for sure at this price has boot light... Unless is Almera low specs meh...
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 11 2014, 09:37 PM)
Huh that is common sense leh... for sure at this price has boot light... Unless is Almera low specs meh...
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ May 11 2014, 10:01 PM)
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Yap never note that.. To be fixed by after market.
Maybe low specs dun have

Either normal light is on, just not include break light.

Cause he never turn on head lamp

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 11 2014, 10:02 PM)
Yap never note that.. To be fixed by after market.
Maybe low specs dun have

Either normal light is on, just not include break light.

Cause he never turn on head lamp
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took a closer look, it seems equipped with light bulb, so it should be light up once headlight is on.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 11 2014, 05:05 PM)
rear boot light got light.. i never took on rear boot compartment  icon_idea.gif
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I mean the rear light that is on the boot cover.. In your 2nd picture we can see only right side got light. Left side don't have light.
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ May 11 2014, 10:42 PM)
took a closer look, it seems equipped with light bulb, so it should be light up once headlight is on.
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Might be like the elantra. Simple wiring would fix this if there are light bulbs in that area.
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QUOTE(randoll @ May 12 2014, 01:15 AM)
I mean the rear light that is on the boot cover.. In your 2nd picture we can see only right side got light. Left side don't have light.
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Not too sure, for me not very improtant part, cause if need it, can be mod on after market.

If come with normal headlight when switch on for appear light, that is fine for me..

Sorry I'm not really go into detailed

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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ May 11 2014, 10:01 PM)
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I just came back from PJ showroom. (Pay another visit tongue.gif )
I check on this thing, the SA confirmed that that part of the lamp wont light up..
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I just came back from PJ showroom. (Pay another visit tongue.gif )
I check on this thing,  the SA confirmed that that part of the lamp wont light up..
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Then its abit sux lol
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ May 12 2014, 03:16 PM)
Then its abit sux lol
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Then u should buy Cerato both light shine bright 2 like Ultraman Monster ... wakakaka
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QUOTE(Sawamura @ May 12 2014, 01:28 PM)
I just came back from PJ showroom. (Pay another visit tongue.gif )
I check on this thing,  the SA confirmed that that part of the lamp wont light up..
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it looks odd when that part does not light up. there is no 'continuity' when you look at it. the light half way kena potong.. hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 12 2014, 03:21 PM)
Then u should buy Cerato both light shine bright 2 like Ultraman Monster ... wakakaka
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I don't wan spiderman eyes tail light lol
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QUOTE(feelfree @ May 10 2014, 09:40 PM)
Jaycrap, don't be day dreaming lar, since when the Cerato has high built quality than Sylphy, once tested you will know what is called high quality, but too pity, you are too lazy to go to test drive, just like to sit in front computer to talk cock!  doh.gif  By the way, since when the Forte RV is good arr? Until now still a lot of used car dealer refuse to accept Korean car, even now the Korean has very good plastic surgery technic. Look good at the outside, bad in the inside.
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Lol, the Sylphy in terms of welding and molding, its quality is no match against Toyota, yet you claim it could challenge Cerato some more in build quality. Your crap product can only challenge the obsolete Civic. Trying to compare your Sylphy against Altis, Cerato, Elantra, you can forget it. You park your rubbish Sylphy next to any of these cars will make your car look dwarfed and outclassed.

Your panel used car dealers are more than happy to accept 2010 onwards Korean cars at good price. Feel free to check with them, I know you won't reveal the actual answer here out of shame.

When comes to accepting your used N-brand products, they gave very low like they are junk COLD CARS. Those who traded in at your showroom can get little overtrade because you are willing to absorb the loss. Had they traded their used N-brands at other brands showrooms, they would get very poor trade in. Aren't you forgetting that you actually offer high overtrade to used unwanted old Spectra too? In that case, that means your showroom look high upon old unwanted Korean junks. May I know what poor RV are you trying to say here when your showroom is offering higher RV to junk Spectra than others?
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 11 2014, 10:02 PM)
Yap never note that.. To be fixed by after market.
Maybe low specs dun have

Either normal light is on, just not include break light.

Cause he never turn on head lamp
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Your old junk Sylphy '10 also don't have light bulbs in the inner rear lights. The same goes to the new one, the inner lights are just illuminator, empty inside just like the tin kosong Sylphy. Wonder what do you, jolokia, feelfree and gang based on to say the Sylphy very high quality when it is so empty everywhere. Korean cars that you said low quality also have some lighting there, new one even brighter with more LEDs.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 13 2014, 12:12 AM)
Your old junk Sylphy '10 also don't have light bulbs in the inner rear lights. The same goes to the new one, the inner lights are just illuminator, empty inside just like the tin kosong Sylphy. Wonder what do you, jolokia, feelfree and gang based on to say the Sylphy very high quality when it is so empty everywhere. Korean cars that you said low quality also have some lighting there, new one even brighter with more LEDs.
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Comes with full break light... For me I dun care of this..


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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 13 2014, 12:12 AM)
Your old junk Sylphy '10 also don't have light bulbs in the inner rear lights. The same goes to the new one, the inner lights are just illuminator, empty inside just like the tin kosong Sylphy. Wonder what do you, jolokia, feelfree and gang based on to say the Sylphy very high quality when it is so empty everywhere. Korean cars that you said low quality also have some lighting there, new one even brighter with more LEDs.
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Elantra also don't have light in that area.
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You are wrong mine is FL 2011 model..
Comes with full break light... For me I dun care of this..
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 13 2014, 11:59 AM)
The FL is the one taken China made FL design. Yes, that's the one. Just another cost cutting car. Lol!
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kimsim talking about the light what crapot u drag to china ?

The only cost cutting car I know in the market r Naza Forte 1.6 EX kosong 4 speed auto with black steel rim...lol

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1.) 2 frontal air bags is sufficient unless u crash into a truck.
2.) Buy Forte EX as worried SX push start button will spoil & can't start the car.
3.) Need car to transport cabinet & mattress as too stingy to hire lorry. (though I am not sure which car can transport queen size mattress. .lol)


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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 13 2014, 11:59 AM)
The FL is the one taken China made FL design. Yes, that's the one. Just another cost cutting car. Lol!
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 13 2014, 12:09 PM)
kimsim talking about the light what crapot u drag to china ?

The only cost cutting car I know in the market r Naza Forte 1.6 EX kosong 4 speed auto with black steel rim...lol

Most funny jokes by Dr.Jayraptor

1.) 2 frontal air bags is sufficient unless u crash into a truck.
2.) Buy Forte EX as worried SX push start button will spoil & can't start the car.
3.) Need car to transport cabinet & mattress as too stingy to hire lorry. (though I am not sure which car can transport queen size mattress. .lol)
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So fast already came back. Aren't you supposed to be very busy today asking for lots of things to fall from the sky without effort. Forte has been acclaimed by public as 1 of the best value for money with good build quality practical car ever. My Forte EX comes with alloy sport rim, what black steel rim you're talking about?

Unlike your Sylphy that is empty tin can that can only sell by throwing CRA2Y discount and high overtrade. Now that there are so many strong competitors, carbuyers pick very carefully when have to fork out over RM100k.

As for your cheap Almera, you must really hate City by now. Almera vs City comparison:

Almera
LxWxH 4425 x 1695 x 1505
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1035kg low spec, 1045kg high spec

output 102ps@6000rpm
torque 139Nm@4000rpm
0-100km/h >13s
4AT - 2.861, 1.562, 1.000, 0.698

City
LxWxH 4440 x 1695 x 1477
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1075kg-1106kg

output 120ps@6600rpm
torque 145Nm@4800rpm
0-100km/h probably fake claim 10.5-10.8s (actual add 1s+)
CVT 2.526~0.408

Design wise, City won, at least it looks more like car rather than a train like your Almera with 1505 height, is it MPV? Interior space, headroom your car won, but interior width & legroom comparable as the new City is designed to have more interior room now. Inside City looks nicer despite build quality is low. Acceleration wise, the City's claim is more likely fake, if it is 12s, that is still faster than your sluggish Almera. Performance & handling won by City. Only thing you can attack is its weak CVT gearbox that is weaker than the model it replaced using 5AT. FC wise, your Almera at 12km/L while the new City that is lighter than its predecessor should be better than 10.8km/L which could be around 12km/L. If you force me to choose 1, I would pick City. Without force, I won't choose either 1.
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Check the LED light at the back.
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kimsim talking about the light what crapot u drag to china ?

The only cost cutting car I know in the market r Naza Forte 1.6 EX kosong 4 speed auto with black steel rim...lol

Most funny jokes by Dr.Jayraptor

1.) 2 frontal air bags is sufficient unless u crash into a truck.
2.) Buy Forte EX as worried SX push start button will spoil & can't start the car.
3.) Need car to transport cabinet & mattress as too stingy to hire lorry. (though I am not sure which car can transport queen size mattress. .lol)
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How about Honda City S? Steel rim also.
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So fast already came back. Aren't you supposed to be very busy today asking for lots of things to fall from the sky without effort. Forte has been acclaimed by public as 1 of the best value for money with good build quality practical car ever. My Forte EX comes with alloy sport rim, what black steel rim you're talking about?

Unlike your Sylphy that is empty tin can that can only sell by throwing CRA2Y discount and high overtrade. Now that there are so many strong competitors, carbuyers pick very carefully when have to fork out over RM100k.

As for your cheap Almera, you must really hate City by now. Almera vs City comparison:

Almera
LxWxH 4425 x 1695 x 1505
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1035kg low spec, 1045kg high spec

output 102ps@6000rpm
torque 139Nm@4000rpm
0-100km/h >13s
4AT - 2.861, 1.562, 1.000, 0.698

City
LxWxH 4440 x 1695 x 1477
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1075kg-1106kg

output 120ps@6600rpm
torque 145Nm@4800rpm
0-100km/h probably fake claim 10.5-10.8s (actual add 1s+)
CVT 2.526~0.408

Design wise, City won, at least it looks more like car rather than a train like your Almera with 1505 height, is it MPV? Interior space, headroom your car won, but interior width & legroom comparable as the new City is designed to have more interior room now. Inside City looks nicer despite build quality is low. Acceleration wise, the City's claim is more likely fake, if it is 12s, that is still faster than your sluggish Almera. Performance & handling won by City. Only thing you can attack is its weak CVT gearbox that is weaker than the model it replaced using 5AT. FC wise, your Almera at 12km/L while the new City that is lighter than its predecessor should be better than 10.8km/L which could be around 12km/L. If you force me to choose 1, I would pick City. Without force, I won't choose either 1.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 13 2014, 12:54 PM)
So fast already came back. Aren't you supposed to be very busy today asking for lots of things to fall from the sky without effort. Forte has been acclaimed by public as 1 of the best value for money with good build quality practical car ever. My Forte EX comes with alloy sport rim, what black steel rim you're talking about?

Unlike your Sylphy that is empty tin can that can only sell by throwing CRA2Y discount and high overtrade. Now that there are so many strong competitors, carbuyers pick very carefully when have to fork out over RM100k.

As for your cheap Almera, you must really hate City by now. Almera vs City comparison:

Almera
LxWxH 4425 x 1695 x 1505
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1035kg low spec, 1045kg high spec

output 102ps@6000rpm
torque 139Nm@4000rpm
0-100km/h >13s
4AT - 2.861, 1.562, 1.000, 0.698

City
LxWxH 4440 x 1695 x 1477
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1075kg-1106kg

output 120ps@6600rpm
torque 145Nm@4800rpm
0-100km/h probably fake claim 10.5-10.8s (actual add 1s+)
CVT 2.526~0.408

Design wise, City won, at least it looks more like car rather than a train like your Almera with 1505 height, is it MPV? Interior space, headroom your car won, but interior width & legroom comparable as the new City is designed to have more interior room now. Inside City looks nicer despite build quality is low. Acceleration wise, the City's claim is more likely fake, if it is 12s, that is still faster than your sluggish Almera. Performance & handling won by City. Only thing you can attack is its weak CVT gearbox that is weaker than the model it replaced using 5AT. FC wise, your Almera at 12km/L while the new City that is lighter than its predecessor should be better than 10.8km/L which could be around 12km/L. If you force me to choose 1, I would pick City. Without force, I won't choose either 1.
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Ur laoya Forte EX kosong did come with black steel rim, just that some showroom offer cheapo 15" JRD rim wth the car, it look totally ugly & doesn't matching.

I thought u tembak Honda CVT gear box kao2 some more the first gear is smaller than Almera, meaning weak pick up power ? now u twist your own story ah ? caught u eating your own words again !

Nissan sales so healthy nowadays us like fortune fall from sky already. ..wakakaka

No need force u to choose lah ! U can't afford either one, Ur 9 years loan for Forte EX kosong still have 4-5 years to complete. ..u have to pay money to bank to dispose it since 4 speed Forte EX kosong RV is very bad, that is even there are used car willing to take in...Muahahahha

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Ur laoya Forte EX kosong did come with black steel rim,  just that some showroom offer cheapo 15" JRD rim wth the car, it look totally ugly & doesn't matching.

I thought u tembak Honda CVT gear box kao2 some more the first gear is smaller than Almera, meaning weak pick up power ? now u twist your own story ah ? caught up eat your own words right ?

Nissan sales so healthy nowadays us like fortune fall from sky already. ..wakakaka

No need force u to choose lah ! U can't afford either one, Ur 9 years loan for Forte EX kosong still have 4-5 years to complete. ..u have to pay money to bank to dispose it...Muahahahha
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omg.. what da hell drag from sylphy ->almera vs city...? out of topic.
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so fan of nissan.

you must be a nissan salesman.
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No lah.. I just love Nissan car for my recent life's
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http://www.nissan.com.my/vehicle/all-new_t...090813998169685

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Nissan Sylphy in China April 2014 sales was 28672 units, second best selling vehicle in China, the first was VW Lavida @ 31465 units, the third was VW Sagitar @ 27847 units. Toyota Altis was selling 9953 units at 35th place. fourth and fifth place was held by VW Santana and VW Jetta with 26654 and 26078 units. In the top ten position, only the Nissan Sylphy represented the Asian car maker. As expected, China's car market used to be dominated by VW, Chevy and Buick.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ May 16 2014, 11:08 AM)
Nissan Sylphy in China April 2014 sales was 28672 units, second best selling vehicle in China, the first was VW Lavida @ 31465 units, the third was VW Sagitar @ 27847 units. Toyota Altis was selling 9953 units at 35th place. fourth and fifth place was held by VW Santana and VW Jetta with 26654 and 26078 units. In the top ten position, only the Nissan Sylphy represented the Asian car maker. As expected, China's car market used to be dominated by VW, Chevy and Buick.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 13 2014, 05:17 PM)
Ur laoya Forte EX kosong did come with black steel rim,  just that some showroom offer cheapo 15" JRD rim wth the car, it look totally ugly & doesn't matching.

I thought u tembak Honda CVT gear box kao2 some more the first gear is smaller than Almera, meaning weak pick up power ? now u twist your own story ah ? caught u eating your own words again !

Nissan sales so healthy nowadays us like fortune fall from sky already. ..wakakaka

No need force u to choose lah ! U can't afford either one, Ur 9 years loan for Forte EX kosong still have 4-5 years to complete. ..u have to pay money to bank to dispose it since 4 speed Forte EX kosong RV is very bad,  that is even there are used car willing to take in...Muahahahha
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I'm leaving that for you to use against City. However, if you do so, it will backfire on you as well since your other models use CVT gearbox that is just as weak. Already stated that I would go for Vios instead of total obsolete Almera and poor reliability/durability City. Both are waste of money to buy, better get used Forte, even the 4AT gearbox is much stronger than the Almera & City.

New Sylphy sales is actually not that good, you really need to pray harder, not play. Comparing City against Almera, the engine alone, the Almera is too weak to pull its chassis that is long. The sluggish City even though torque is poor at low end, it could still generate 145Nm@4800rpm compared to your sluggish Almera 139Nm@4000rpm. When torque is poor, output power PS could compensate by revving harder so in overall, the City is stronger than Almera.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ May 16 2014, 11:08 AM)
Nissan Sylphy in China April 2014 sales was 28672 units, second best selling vehicle in China, the first was VW Lavida @ 31465 units, the third was VW Sagitar @ 27847 units. Toyota Altis was selling 9953 units at 35th place. fourth and fifth place was held by VW Santana and VW Jetta with 26654 and 26078 units. In the top ten position, only the Nissan Sylphy represented the Asian car maker. As expected, China's car market used to be dominated by VW, Chevy and Buick.
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Sylphy is sold as local brand under much cheaper price than competitor in China. Like selling your N-brand at P1 price here, sure can sell in large numbers as majority in China aren't that rich. VW, Chevy, Buick are foreign brands and taxed higher, same goes to Koreans. Whatever result in China is influenced by different policy and pricing. Over here, your Sylphy faces several better competitors and carbuyers here would pick much more carefully. Not to mention, our cars are priced way more expensive than China. Also, the new Bluebird aka Lannia is deemed to replace the Sylphy that you just launched. You think locals will buy a car that is about to phase out soon yet >RM100k?

So, the new Altima is labelled as Teana here because it will use obsolete gearbox and engine for 2.0L? Already done stupid review against Accord under similar price range? Again, taking the highway FC to claim as average FC, downgraded. At least not as City FC anymore like last time, 13.5km/L city (rubbish fake claim) where actual goes below 9km/L.


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Sylphy is sold as local brand under much cheaper price than competitor in China. Like selling your N-brand at P1 price here, sure can sell in large numbers as majority in China aren't that rich. VW, Chevy, Buick are foreign brands and taxed higher, same goes to Koreans. Whatever result in China is influenced by different policy and pricing. Over here, your Sylphy faces several better competitors and carbuyers here would pick much more carefully. Not to mention, our cars are priced way more expensive than China. Also, the new Bluebird aka Lannia is deemed to replace the Sylphy that you just launched. You think locals will buy a car that is about to phase out soon yet >RM100k?

So, the new Altima is labelled as Teana here because it will use obsolete gearbox and engine for 2.0L? Already done stupid review against Accord under similar price range? Again, taking the highway FC to claim as average FC, downgraded.  At least not as City FC anymore like last time, 13.5km/L city (rubbish fake claim) where actual goes below 9km/L.
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Now I know why ppl are talking so bad about you. I bet you are a loser in real life.
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Now I know why ppl are talking so bad about you. I bet you are a loser in real life.
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I'm not but you are. Because you can't accept facts and unwilling to improve. Talk so much, you go buy that Sylphy, don't buy other brands. Then see how your face like when new Lannia launch and replace Sylphy worldwide. You'll stuck with a phased out car after paying >RM100k even after CRA2Y discount + high overtrade for your existing junk even with poor RV also nevermind.
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This Sylphy triump C segment and yet people still go and buy the Altis thinking highly of it. Sigh...
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 17 2014, 12:57 AM)
Sylphy is sold as local brand under much cheaper price than competitor in China. Like selling your N-brand at P1 price here, sure can sell in large numbers as majority in China aren't that rich. VW, Chevy, Buick are foreign brands and taxed higher, same goes to Koreans. Whatever result in China is influenced by different policy and pricing. Over here, your Sylphy faces several better competitors and carbuyers here would pick much more carefully. Not to mention, our cars are priced way more expensive than China. Also, the new Bluebird aka Lannia is deemed to replace the Sylphy that you just launched. You think locals will buy a car that is about to phase out soon yet >RM100k?

So, the new Altima is labelled as Teana here because it will use obsolete gearbox and engine for 2.0L? Already done stupid review against Accord under similar price range? Again, taking the highway FC to claim as average FC, downgraded.  At least not as City FC anymore like last time, 13.5km/L city (rubbish fake claim) where actual goes below 9km/L.
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Loser, check properly lar, so lazy, what local brand lar, which car company in China not joint venture with local company, tell me lar you stupid loser? Really helpless when see this brainless loser, cannot accept the fact and the real figure, keep wanting to be like a pro when act totally like a stupid!

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 17 2014, 01:25 AM)
I'm not but you are. Because you can't accept facts and unwilling to improve. Talk so much, you go buy that Sylphy, don't buy other brands. Then see how your face like when new Lannia launch and replace Sylphy worldwide. You'll stuck with a phased out car after paying >RM100k even after CRA2Y discount + high overtrade for your existing junk even with poor RV also nevermind.
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When talk about RV only the conti is lower than your Lowya Kimchi, no other is lower than that, if you really care about RV, do more work because your kimchi really no people want buy as used car! Only you are the only one keep saying your kimchi is reliable, good RV..... What a loser!

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 13 2014, 12:54 PM)
So fast already came back. Aren't you supposed to be very busy today asking for lots of things to fall from the sky without effort. Forte has been acclaimed by public as 1 of the best value for money with good build quality practical car ever. My Forte EX comes with alloy sport rim, what black steel rim you're talking about?

Unlike your Sylphy that is empty tin can that can only sell by throwing CRA2Y discount and high overtrade. Now that there are so many strong competitors, carbuyers pick very carefully when have to fork out over RM100k.

As for your cheap Almera, you must really hate City by now. Almera vs City comparison:

Almera
LxWxH 4425 x 1695 x 1505
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1035kg low spec, 1045kg high spec

output 102ps@6000rpm
torque 139Nm@4000rpm
0-100km/h >13s
4AT - 2.861, 1.562, 1.000, 0.698

City
LxWxH 4440 x 1695 x 1477
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1075kg-1106kg

output 120ps@6600rpm
torque 145Nm@4800rpm
0-100km/h probably fake claim 10.5-10.8s (actual add 1s+)
CVT 2.526~0.408

Design wise, City won, at least it looks more like car rather than a train like your Almera with 1505 height, is it MPV? Interior space, headroom your car won, but interior width & legroom comparable as the new City is designed to have more interior room now. Inside City looks nicer despite build quality is low. Acceleration wise, the City's claim is more likely fake, if it is 12s, that is still faster than your sluggish Almera. Performance & handling won by City. Only thing you can attack is its weak CVT gearbox that is weaker than the model it replaced using 5AT. FC wise, your Almera at 12km/L while the new City that is lighter than its predecessor should be better than 10.8km/L which could be around 12km/L. If you force me to choose 1, I would pick City. Without force, I won't choose either 1.
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QUOTE(NissanTeana @ May 17 2014, 02:18 PM)
Loser, check properly lar, so lazy, what local brand lar, which car company in China not joint venture with local company, tell me lar you stupid loser? Really helpless when see this brainless loser, cannot accept the fact and the real figure, keep wanting to be like a pro when act totally like a stupid!
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When talk about RV only the conti is lower than your Lowya Kimchi, no other is lower than that, if you really care about RV, do more work because your kimchi really no people want buy as used car! Only you are the only one keep saying your kimchi is reliable, good RV..... What a loser!
Looks like popcorn's backup is here. N-brand received their local brand recognition in China like P1's Inspira getting to sell as local car that is much cheaper RM83/93k compared to Lancer RM123k. Yes, N-brand China get to sell their products at much cheaper price than any other Japanese/Korean brands.

As for Korean RV for newer generations, their FC already stabilized and right now sits together with Mazda just behind Toyota & Honda. As for your substandard N-brand, it fell way below, can be labelled as Cold Car already. FYI, demand for used unit by those who would buy used cars determine RV. As for conti, even their RV are starting to improve a lot and when confirmed reliable, they would have more stable RV by then.
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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ May 17 2014, 06:20 PM)
Why do you like to post specs here and flood the entire page so often? You have to realise that people may not be interested to see those specs that you have copied off websites and posted here as rubbish.
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Now that you get cars from Thailand, you can't throw that much CRA2Y discount this time unless the car is an old stock. Because the base cost of bringing it in already more expensive. Just like X-Trail that is CBU from Indonesia, you are more stuck with the ori pricing. Copy specs to post here for comparison is not rubbish but as more detailed presentation. No wonder your meeting mostly rubbish talk, if competitor too strong, you bunch of idiots would panic and running scare.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 18 2014, 04:01 PM)
Looks like popcorn's backup is here. N-brand received their local brand recognition in China like P1's Inspira getting to sell as local car that is much cheaper RM83/93k compared to Lancer RM123k. Yes, N-brand China get to sell their products at much cheaper price than any other Japanese/Korean brands.

As for Korean RV for newer generations, their FC already stabilized and right now sits together with Mazda just behind Toyota & Honda. As for your substandard N-brand, it fell way below, can be labelled as Cold Car already. FYI, demand for used unit by those who would buy used cars determine RV. As for conti, even their RV are starting to improve a lot and when confirmed reliable, they would have more stable RV by then.
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Loser, check properly lar, Sylphy selling price in China is expensive than Civic and Altis, don't keep bullshitting at here! Damn bloody lazy loser, Korean RV?... Just forget about it even the next next generation models if they keep improving only the look, but the engine maintain such rough and FC, only you claimed it is good FC. doh.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 18 2014, 04:09 PM)
Now that you get cars from Thailand, you can't throw that much CRA2Y discount this time unless the car is an old stock. Because the base cost of bringing it in already more expensive. Just like X-Trail that is CBU from Indonesia, you are more stuck with the ori pricing. Copy specs to post here for comparison is not rubbish but as more detailed presentation. No wonder your meeting mostly rubbish talk, if competitor too strong, you bunch of idiots would panic and running scare.
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YOu failed to get the point. Nobody is interested to read the DETAILED PRESENTATION. Hence your detailed presentation is regarded as rubbish.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 17 2014, 12:47 AM)
I'm leaving that for you to use against City. However, if you do so, it will backfire on you as well since your other models use CVT gearbox that is just as weak. Already stated that I would go for Vios instead of total obsolete Almera and poor reliability/durability City. Both are waste of money to buy, better get used Forte, even the 4AT gearbox is much stronger than the Almera & City.

New Sylphy sales is actually not that good, you really need to pray harder, not play. Comparing City against Almera, the engine alone, the Almera is too weak to pull its chassis that is long. The sluggish City even though torque is poor at low end, it could still generate 145Nm@4800rpm compared to your sluggish Almera 139Nm@4000rpm. When torque is poor, output power PS could compensate by revving harder so in overall, the City is stronger than Almera.
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U dumbo Forte is a C segment while Almera & City is B segment, isn't Almera using torque converter, what nonsence u talking about ? mad.gif
QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 17 2014, 12:57 AM)
Sylphy is sold as local brand under much cheaper price than competitor in China. Like selling your N-brand at P1 price here, sure can sell in large numbers as majority in China aren't that rich. VW, Chevy, Buick are foreign brands and taxed higher, same goes to Koreans. Whatever result in China is influenced by different policy and pricing. Over here, your Sylphy faces several better competitors and carbuyers here would pick much more carefully. Not to mention, our cars are priced way more expensive than China. Also, the new Bluebird aka Lannia is deemed to replace the Sylphy that you just launched. You think locals will buy a car that is about to phase out soon yet >RM100k?

So, the new Altima is labelled as Teana here because it will use obsolete gearbox and engine for 2.0L? Already done stupid review against Accord under similar price range? Again, taking the highway FC to claim as average FC, downgraded.  At least not as City FC anymore like last time, 13.5km/L city (rubbish fake claim) where actual goes below 9km/L.
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"We" r selling Almera at a very affordable price while ur laoya KIAsu simply increase price try to match Japanese brand no wonder sales of Cerato totally disaster compare to Forte, All China car need to partner with local assembler, even your laoya Hontai & KIAsu also need to joint venture, reason why ur loaya Hontai use as Taxi because Beijing Co. also happed to own Taxi fleet, no need to create boggy man scare tactics as Lannia just a concept car, already u so envy, why ? when it launch u will dispose ur Forte EX kosong & buy N Brand ? U can't affford.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 17 2014, 01:25 AM)
I'm not but you are. Because you can't accept facts and unwilling to improve. Talk so much, you go buy that Sylphy, don't buy other brands. Then see how your face like when new Lannia launch and replace Sylphy worldwide. You'll stuck with a phased out car after paying >RM100k even after CRA2Y discount + high overtrade for your existing junk even with poor RV also nevermind.
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U better start finding a part time job then talking nonsense here, or else u can't save enoght deposit for Lannia after selling ur low resales value Forte EX kosong as it almost worthless by then. laugh.gif
QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 18 2014, 04:01 PM)
Looks like popcorn's backup is here. N-brand received their local brand recognition in China like P1's Inspira getting to sell as local car that is much cheaper RM83/93k compared to Lancer RM123k. Yes, N-brand China get to sell their products at much cheaper price than any other Japanese/Korean brands.

As for Korean RV for newer generations, their FC already stabilized and right now sits together with Mazda just behind Toyota & Honda. As for your substandard N-brand, it fell way below, can be labelled as Cold Car already. FYI, demand for used unit by those who would buy used cars determine RV. As for conti, even their RV are starting to improve a lot and when confirmed reliable, they would have more stable RV by then.
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Ur brain really pop like a corn.. tongue.gif

Don't tipu show me how much Slyphy selling in China compare to Altis, Civic ??

Korean RV ... hahahaha 2 years Forte selling 56K (30K hilang)...wakakakaka

Slyphy 1.8 is selling at RMB 140-169K,
Altis 1.8 is selling at RMB 141-159K


QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 18 2014, 04:09 PM)
Now that you get cars from Thailand, you can't throw that much CRA2Y discount this time unless the car is an old stock. Because the base cost of bringing it in already more expensive. Just like X-Trail that is CBU from Indonesia, you are more stuck with the ori pricing. Copy specs to post here for comparison is not rubbish but as more detailed presentation. No wonder your meeting mostly rubbish talk, if competitor too strong, you bunch of idiots would panic and running scare.
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Now "our" car so good specs no need discount also can sell very well. thumbup.gif

Already 2nd best selling non national, what competitor.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 19 2014, 03:20 PM)
U dumbo Forte is a C segment while Almera & City is B segment, isn't Almera using torque converter, what nonsence u talking about ?  mad.gif

"We" r selling Almera at a very affordable price while ur laoya KIAsu simply increase price try to match Japanese brand no wonder sales of Cerato totally disaster compare to Forte, All China car need to partner with local assembler, even your laoya Hontai & KIAsu also need to joint venture, reason why ur loaya Hontai use as Taxi because Beijing Co. also happed to own Taxi fleet, no need to create boggy man scare tactics as Lannia just a concept car, already u so envy, why ? when it launch u will dispose ur Forte EX kosong & buy N Brand ? U can't affford..  whistling.gif
U better start finding a part time job then talking nonsense here, or else u can't save enoght deposit for Lannia after selling ur low resales value Forte EX kosong as it almost worthless by then. laugh.gif

Ur brain really pop like a corn.. tongue.gif

Don't tipu show me how much Slyphy selling in China compare to Altis, Civic ??

Korean RV ... hahahaha 2 years Forte selling 56K (30K hilang)...wakakakaka

Slyphy 1.8 is selling at RMB 140-169K,
Altis 1.8 is selling at RMB 141-159K
Now "our" car so good specs no need discount also can sell very well.  thumbup.gif

Already 2nd best selling non national, what competitor..  hmm.gif
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New Sylphy tops in C segment car in China with monthly sales of 22,900+ units compares to Altis' 9945 units ranked at number 35. See China people know what good cars to get.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 13 2014, 12:54 PM)
So fast already came back. Aren't you supposed to be very busy today asking for lots of things to fall from the sky without effort. Forte has been acclaimed by public as 1 of the best value for money with good build quality practical car ever. My Forte EX comes with alloy sport rim, what black steel rim you're talking about?

Unlike your Sylphy that is empty tin can that can only sell by throwing CRA2Y discount and high overtrade. Now that there are so many strong competitors, carbuyers pick very carefully when have to fork out over RM100k.

As for your cheap Almera, you must really hate City by now. Almera vs City comparison:

Almera
LxWxH 4425 x 1695 x 1505
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1035kg low spec, 1045kg high spec

output 102ps@6000rpm
torque 139Nm@4000rpm
0-100km/h >13s
4AT - 2.861, 1.562, 1.000, 0.698

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LxWxH 4440 x 1695 x 1477
wheelbase 2600
kerb weight 1075kg-1106kg

output 120ps@6600rpm
torque 145Nm@4800rpm
0-100km/h probably fake claim 10.5-10.8s (actual add 1s+)
CVT 2.526~0.408

Design wise, City won, at least it looks more like car rather than a train like your Almera with 1505 height, is it MPV? Interior space, headroom your car won, but interior width & legroom comparable as the new City is designed to have more interior room now. Inside City looks nicer despite build quality is low. Acceleration wise, the City's claim is more likely fake, if it is 12s, that is still faster than your sluggish Almera. Performance & handling won by City. Only thing you can attack is its weak CVT gearbox that is weaker than the model it replaced using 5AT. FC wise, your Almera at 12km/L while the new City that is lighter than its predecessor should be better than 10.8km/L which could be around 12km/L. If you force me to choose 1, I would pick City. Without force, I won't choose either 1.
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You surely have a knack of flooding the entire page with rubbish? Can't you keep the stats to yourself? TO be honest, your post sounds very childish.
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QUOTE(Dwango @ May 20 2014, 07:51 AM)
You surely have a knack of flooding the entire page with rubbish? Can't you keep the stats to yourself? TO be honest, your post sounds very childish.
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Ya, where got ppl compare from Almera & city out of topic here
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can someone or everyone please ignore that gayrap guy
he is turning the whole healthy discussion to flaming other ppl cars.

i come in to read more about new slyphy but i got nothing but gayrap fact sh!t


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hi guys,

any nissan saleman here?
wanna ask what the term and condition for the promo rm 888 monthly?


downpayment a lot?



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found out the calculation.

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Yes, correct, Nissan Sylphy and their entry level SUV sell well in China

http://carnews.beforward.jp/searchs/detail/entry_id=222703

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QUOTE(NissanTeana @ May 17 2014, 02:22 PM)
When talk about RV only the conti is lower than your Lowya Kimchi, no other is lower than that, if you really care about RV, do more work because your kimchi really no people want buy as used car! Only you are the only one keep saying your kimchi is reliable, good RV..... What a loser!
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like that you must be using a Nokia handphone ya? so reliable. Bet is not a samsung cause it is totally crap phone.
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QUOTE(sonyman @ May 20 2014, 10:29 PM)
like that you must be using a Nokia handphone ya? so reliable. Bet is not a samsung cause it is totally crap phone.
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Err....Nokia is not Japanese...
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Err....Nokia is not Japanese...
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QUOTE(feelfree @ May 18 2014, 05:01 PM)
Loser, check properly lar, Sylphy selling price in China is expensive than Civic and Altis, don't keep bullshitting at here! Damn bloody lazy loser, Korean RV?... Just forget about it even the next next generation models if they keep improving only the look, but the engine maintain such rough and FC, only you claimed it is good FC.  doh.gif
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So how much is Sylphy compared to Civic/Altis in China? You knew the price yet you don't dare to post the price comparison here?

Heard your company now started to focus on Renold because your crappy N-brand already failed badly under you bunch of rubbish management. Congrats, heard the new boss in your neighbouring company was your colleague who together with you bunch calling conti makes poor reliability and expensive maintenance with poor RV. So now he leads the other side. Do you want to hop over there too?

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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 19 2014, 02:20 PM)
U dumbo Forte is a C segment while Almera & City is B segment, isn't Almera using torque converter, what nonsence u talking about ?  mad.gif

"We" r selling Almera at a very affordable price while ur laoya KIAsu simply increase price try to match Japanese brand no wonder sales of Cerato totally disaster compare to Forte, All China car need to partner with local assembler, even your laoya Hontai & KIAsu also need to joint venture, reason why ur loaya Hontai use as Taxi because Beijing Co. also happed to own Taxi fleet, no need to create boggy man scare tactics as Lannia just a concept car, already u so envy, why ? when it launch u will dispose ur Forte EX kosong & buy N Brand ? U can't affford..  whistling.gif
U better start finding a part time job then talking nonsense here, or else u can't save enoght deposit for Lannia after selling ur low resales value Forte EX kosong as it almost worthless by then. laugh.gif

Ur brain really pop like a corn.. tongue.gif

Don't tipu show me how much Slyphy selling in China compare to Altis, Civic ??

Korean RV ... hahahaha 2 years Forte selling 56K (30K hilang)...wakakakaka

Slyphy 1.8 is selling at RMB 140-169K,
Altis 1.8 is selling at RMB 141-159K
Now "our" car so good specs no need discount also can sell very well.  thumbup.gif

Already 2nd best selling non national, what competitor..  hmm.gif
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Your Almera is using obsolete tech that P1 doesn't find you a threat so they let you set the price at P1 price range instead of Vios price range. Because of such obsolete tech yet the weak old tech engine + weak gearbox have to haul such long chassis that could already be C-segment, it gets real sluggish especially when have to start moving from idle.

Yes, cars in China needs partners but your N-brand willing to let them do more to gain low price status, that explains how your N-brand get to sell cheaper in China. You took the previous Altis pricing to compare? FYI, the previous Altis have a joint venture variant with different design from ours. FYI, China old Sonata EF '03 still running in 1 piece despite your bunch of false claims on its reliability. So how come they are still running around with all low maintenance if they are that bad? Even old obsolete Korean cars that are way over 10 years old still running around despite poorly taken care of. 1 more thing, is theer

Forte RV is actually good. Don't forget its selling price is not even expensive yet its RV nowadays is quite stable because of demand for the old used unit is high. Aren't you forgetting bank loan no longer covers cars over 10 years? Because of this policy, all used cars RV already weakened. As for your Latio, Sylphy, Teana, you can put asking price high but there won't be buyer and they'll be lying on the yard for months, even breach 1 year. Still haven't learned the lesson to take actual price paid by used car buyers instead of cut throat asking price where can be bargained further? Fact is, I can get Latio/Sylphy cheaper than Forte outside as 1 of the junior staff here actually looking for used car and he checked used car price of several brands. He went for Forte which is more expensive than N-brand, almost close to Vios price.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 25 2014, 10:30 PM)
Your Almera is using obsolete tech that P1 doesn't find you a threat so they let you set the price at P1 price range instead of Vios price range. Because of such obsolete tech yet the weak old tech engine + weak gearbox have to haul such long chassis that could already be C-segment, it gets real sluggish especially when have to start moving from idle.

Yes, cars in China needs partners but your N-brand willing to let them do more to gain low price status, that explains how your N-brand get to sell cheaper in China. You took the previous Altis pricing to compare? FYI, the previous Altis have a joint venture variant with different design from ours. FYI, China old Sonata EF '03 still running in 1 piece despite your bunch of false claims on its reliability. So how come they are still running around with all low maintenance if they are that bad? Even old obsolete Korean cars that are way over 10 years old still running around despite poorly taken care of. 1 more thing, is theer

Forte RV is actually good. Don't forget its selling price is not even expensive yet its RV nowadays is quite stable because of demand for the old used unit is high. Aren't you forgetting bank loan no longer covers cars over 10 years? Because of this policy, all used cars RV already weakened. As for your Latio, Sylphy, Teana, you can put asking price high but there won't be buyer and they'll be lying on the yard for months, even breach 1 year. Still haven't learned the lesson to take actual price paid by used car buyers instead of cut throat asking price where can be bargained further? Fact is, I can get Latio/Sylphy cheaper than Forte outside as 1 of the junior staff here actually looking for used car and he checked used car price of several brands. He went for Forte which is more expensive than N-brand, almost close to Vios price.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 25 2014, 10:30 PM)
Your Almera is using obsolete tech that P1 doesn't find you a threat so they let you set the price at P1 price range instead of Vios price range. Because of such obsolete tech yet the weak old tech engine + weak gearbox have to haul such long chassis that could already be C-segment, it gets real sluggish especially when have to start moving from idle.

Yes, cars in China needs partners but your N-brand willing to let them do more to gain low price status, that explains how your N-brand get to sell cheaper in China. You took the previous Altis pricing to compare? FYI, the previous Altis have a joint venture variant with different design from ours. FYI, China old Sonata EF '03 still running in 1 piece despite your bunch of false claims on its reliability. So how come they are still running around with all low maintenance if they are that bad? Even old obsolete Korean cars that are way over 10 years old still running around despite poorly taken care of. 1 more thing, is theer

Forte RV is actually good. Don't forget its selling price is not even expensive yet its RV nowadays is quite stable because of demand for the old used unit is high. Aren't you forgetting bank loan no longer covers cars over 10 years? Because of this policy, all used cars RV already weakened. As for your Latio, Sylphy, Teana, you can put asking price high but there won't be buyer and they'll be lying on the yard for months, even breach 1 year. Still haven't learned the lesson to take actual price paid by used car buyers instead of cut throat asking price where can be bargained further? Fact is, I can get Latio/Sylphy cheaper than Forte outside as 1 of the junior staff here actually looking for used car and he checked used car price of several brands. He went for Forte which is more expensive than N-brand, almost close to Vios price.
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Type long essay but says very little. .lol

The Altis price I refer to is the latest Altis, just go to China Toyota website to check don't talk nonsense here.

Isn't your latest 1.4 Rio also 4 speed AT, that's not old tech is it ?

My friend Sonata EF spend him so much maintenance that he let go at scrap price...lol

Junior staff easy to cheat mah ! Shame on u tipu him to buy ur trashed Forte EX kosong at scalped price, so that u can get a new Sylphy after knowing it's very well equipped & selling at very reasonable price.
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lets back to normal healthy discussion. don be bother by the hater/s..... pls go on and leave the loser out.....
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Why not consider Fluence? Similar drivetrain to previous Sylphy, but it's a conti with great service.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ May 27 2014, 12:34 AM)
Why not consider Fluence? Similar drivetrain to previous Sylphy, but it's a conti with great service.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ May 27 2014, 12:34 AM)
Why not consider Fluence? Similar drivetrain to previous Sylphy, but it's a conti with great service.
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The Fluence is ugly and may not be as reliable as the Sylphy.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ May 27 2014, 12:34 AM)
Why not consider Fluence? Similar drivetrain to previous Sylphy, but it's a conti with great service.
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Renault fluence interior not really nicer then new Sylphy, anyway Renault parts more expansive than Nissan.

And also Nissan really not specialist for Renault, so far Renault still dun have service centre in JB yet.

What do you think?

If you tell me why? Regarding my older sentra so far had 10++ still go back to TC for maintenance laugh.gif
Price wise not really expansive for me still affordable, once service can last me over 6 mths from my wife she drove the car..

If Renault over 10 yrs, I think the new parts to be awaiting few months lah.

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 27 2014, 07:23 AM)
Renault fluence interior not really nicer then new Sylphy, anyway Renault parts more expansive than Nissan.

And also Nissan really not specialist for Renault, so far Renault still dun have service centre in JB yet.

What do you think?

If you tell me why? Regarding my older sentra so far had 10++ still go back to TC for maintenance laugh.gif
Price wise not really expansive for me still affordable, once service can last me over 6 mths from my wife she drove the car..

If Renault over 10 yrs, I think the new parts to be awaiting few months lah.
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I have a Kangoo in JB, an Uncle goes to the same SC for his X-Trail. The Renault is much cheaper to run. Repairs are cheaper, servicing is cheaper, ... (of course the X-Trail is a more expensive car, not the fairest comparison).

Oh and the Plentong Nissan SC is also for Renault, not sure why last year they removed the Renault sign (really TC? You are relaunching the brand, so you are removing the logo?!). They have a few dedicated Renault mechanics who know their stuff, some spare parts are available in stock, others have to be brought in from KL. Waiting months for parts, nah. Also going to TC for maintenance, it's affordable and the workmanship is good.

Anyway you can go to the Renault website, they list the servicing costs for the Fluence there.
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QUOTE(taphie78 @ May 27 2014, 12:05 AM)
lets back to normal healthy discussion. don be bother by the hater/s..... pls go on and leave the loser out.....
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Hi everyone.. I am a newbie here. I ordered my Sylphy high spec model early May 2014. Was informed car arriving end of June or early July 2014. Dont know if these dates are when we can collect the car or if these are tentative dates when the cars will come into our country. Then need to take into account customs clearance and also puspakom checks. Do anyone know if these checks are done at Puspokom JPJ (cars have to be there physically) or done at Nissan stockyard?

Personally I have not yet encountered any new Sylphy on the road. I am sure there are some by now. Have read a few feedbacks on test driving this car. I have not yet test driven it but I am very familiar with Nissan cars all this while. Any current new owners can share their experience of owning and driving the Sylphy in particular any problems that crop up or QC issues (hopefully there are none)



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QUOTE(sassyguy @ May 27 2014, 05:44 PM)
Hi everyone.. I am a newbie here. I ordered my Sylphy high spec model early May 2014. Was informed car arriving end of June or early July 2014. Dont know if these dates are when we can collect the car or if these are tentative dates when the cars will come into our country. Then need to take into account customs clearance and also puspakom checks. Do anyone know if these checks are done at Puspokom JPJ (cars have to be there physically) or done at Nissan stockyard?

Personally I have not yet encountered any new Sylphy on the road. I am sure there are some by now. Have read a few feedbacks on test driving this car. I have not yet test driven it but I am very familiar with Nissan cars all this while. Any current new owners can share their experience of owning and driving the Sylphy in particular any problems that crop up or QC issues (hopefully there are none)
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1. About the arrival date, yes, I ask few sales guys, and they said the same thing. End of June or early July.
2. Check from Puspakom? Would like to know as well.
3. 2-3 weeks back, sales not that impressive. But those getting baseline model should be getting their cars already. Haven't seen any on the road though. Quality wise, should be ok because this model was first launched way back in 2012. Any major issue should have been solved by now.

Cheers..


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QUOTE(setheo @ May 28 2014, 10:29 AM)
1. About the arrival date, yes, I ask few sales guys, and they said the same thing. End of June or early July.
2. Check from Puspakom? Would like to know as well.
3. 2-3 weeks back, sales not that impressive. But those getting baseline model should be getting their cars already. Haven't seen any on the road though. Quality wise, should be ok because this model was first launched way back in 2012. Any major issue should have been solved by now.

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Driving the baseline model for 2 weeks now.. so far so good ...now around 8.4l/100km

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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 26 2014, 12:44 PM)
Type long essay but says very little. .lol

The Altis price I refer to is the latest Altis, just go to China Toyota website to check don't talk nonsense here.

Isn't your latest 1.4 Rio also 4 speed AT, that's not old tech is it ?

My friend Sonata EF spend him so much maintenance that he let go at scrap price...lol

Junior staff easy to cheat mah ! Shame on u tipu him to buy ur trashed Forte EX kosong at scalped price, so that u can get a new Sylphy after knowing it's very well equipped & selling at very reasonable price.
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You shouldn't talk nonsense here. You have been taking the old China Altis to compare with Sylphy. Are you forgetting that the Altis you just launched here have been around in China since end of 2011? That means this Sylphy is already 3 years old and due to lousy sales worldwide, N-brand already came up with Lannia prototype to replace the Sylphy anytime soon.

The Rio 1.4 is nothing more than the low end variant, already told you it's a mistake made by NASA in which they are supposed to bring in the 1.6L instead. Main cause is the P1 revised protection where car with tech too advanced like having dual VVT + 6AT cannot be priced around RM80k. This is why the F/L Fiesta 1.5 is priced more expensive than the non-FL Fiesta 1.6. Only obsolete tech cars like your Almera & City get to price dirt cheap. This is also 1 reason why Vios retain the old engine & gearbox that are still superior than Almera and City.

Your non-existent friend is nothing more than made up to defame and bring down your Korean competitor unethical way. Fact is, so many badly taken care of old Korean cars still running around whereas your N-brand and Honta already experiencing engine blown or gearbox damage problem.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 27 2014, 07:23 AM)
Renault fluence interior not really nicer then new Sylphy, anyway Renault parts more expansive than Nissan.

And also Nissan really not specialist for Renault, so far Renault still dun have service centre in JB yet.

What do you think?

If you tell me why? Regarding my older sentra so far had 10++ still go back to TC for maintenance laugh.gif
Price wise not really expansive for me still affordable, once service can last me over 6 mths from my wife she drove the car..

If Renault over 10 yrs, I think the new parts to be awaiting few months lah.
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News said your colleagues have been transferred to Renauld to manage and market the cars. Are you saying your N-brand engine & gearbox not reliable and spare parts very expensive since they are the same as your narrow B-segment limo Sylphy? Already started fighting your ex-colleagues because your boss started to love them more? Someone is eyesore, lol!!

Some real new users which could be 1 of your gang members with fake story about getting new Sylphy. This is 1 of main common strategy used by marketing staff to make it look like the car can sell well bragging lots of good stuff there. Their cars not even fully run in yet they could claim all the good FC, etc. THis is mistake #1.

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News said your colleagues have been transferred to Renauld to manage and market the cars. Are you saying your N-brand engine & gearbox not reliable and spare parts very expensive since they are the same as your narrow B-segment limo Sylphy? Already started fighting your ex-colleagues because your boss started to love them more? Someone is eyesore, lol!!

Some real new users which could be 1 of your gang members with fake story about getting new Sylphy. This is 1 of main common strategy used by marketing staff to make it look like the car can sell well bragging lots of good stuff there. Their cars not even fully run in yet they could claim all the good FC, etc. THis is mistake #1.
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Sure or not?
New from where?

Renault or Nissan Gear box is under one roof.. Not realiable is due to user usage without changing gear oil wow...

How you gonna be explain?
Like you serving out side workshop kena cheat with engine oil as gear oil then died died to be change whole new gb at that time also...

If wanna said right... All to be user faut.
Anyway got come with warranty then just done in serving center lah.

I beileved nothing brands to be realiable too.
If really the carmarkers can be close shop.

Good FC for sure it newer can be the winner, my old one can prompt you 12.72km/L

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Jayacraptor is right about the new slyphy model will come out next year 2015 but will ETCM bring in ASAP or 2017, thats total different story.

Its a risk to buy this car now knowing that the new design is coming out soon. But if its worth it for the owner, then why not?

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QUOTE(taphie78 @ May 29 2014, 12:11 PM)
Jayacraptor is right about the new slyphy model will come out next year 2015 but will ETCM bring in ASAP or 2017, thats total different story.

Its a risk to buy this car now knowing that the new design is coming out soon. But if its worth it for the owner, then why not?
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Even though TC turtle slow, this Sylphy was launched in 2012, unlikely a full model change will happen soon. Facelift is due though.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 28 2014, 09:24 PM)
You shouldn't talk nonsense here. You have been taking the old China Altis to compare with Sylphy. Are you forgetting that the Altis you just launched here have been around in China since end of 2011? That means this Sylphy is already 3 years old and due to lousy sales worldwide, N-brand already came up with Lannia prototype to replace the Sylphy anytime soon.

The Rio 1.4 is nothing more than the low end variant, already told you it's a mistake made by NASA in which they are supposed to bring in the 1.6L instead. Main cause is the P1 revised protection where car with tech too advanced like having dual VVT + 6AT cannot be priced around RM80k. This is why the F/L Fiesta 1.5 is priced more expensive than the non-FL Fiesta 1.6. Only obsolete tech cars like your Almera & City get to price dirt cheap. This is also 1 reason why Vios retain the old engine & gearbox that are still superior than Almera and City.

Your non-existent friend is nothing more than made up to defame and bring down your Korean competitor unethical way. Fact is, so many badly taken care of old Korean cars still running around whereas your N-brand and Honta already experiencing engine blown or gearbox damage problem.
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U still face to come back here after simply says the China Altis price i indicate is previous model, now u alrady check the price show dispite Sylphy is more expensive than Altis still it sell better then Altis.

This is strong evidence that "our" Slyphy is the Best thumbup.gif

Your laoya NASA don't dare to bring in 1.6 Rio as they have price the 1.4 too high, that why now they can't bring in 1.6 as the gap between 1.6 Rio would be too close to 1.6 Cerato.

Why so high tech about Vios ? 4 speed AT ? or that old since 1st generation engine ? let me guess u mean the new head light or sticker ... laugh.gif

U go & check what is the RV for Sonata EF now, the fellow lost 90% RV when he sold his Sonata EF after 10 years, in fact he can't get any used car to buy it, if he wasn't buying new car & dealer had no choice but to get someone trade in, probably that junk would rotting in his garage.

I can even see Datsun 120Y & Nissan 130Y running on road, in fact many light blue outstation taxi still using very old but very durable Nissan, where is your laoya KIAsu & Hontai, even your Sephia, Old Rio, old accent, already look like kereta buruk, Old Elantra throw on the also no one care to pick it up, totally worthless in used car market.

Couple years from now your Forte EX Kosong & Buruk would also become worthless after been trash by your crazy test... whistling.gif

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yes... i find city sluggish too sad.gif but the test drive was too short. Will request for a longer test drive... and see. Or i am not used to a 1.5 ...

Sylphy on the other hand is much more better... It was great for me . smile.gif power, acceleration and cornering... but no touch screen display

but cant compare much 1.5 vs 1.8 .. diff segment...

i have just narrowed down to this 2 choices... see which wins...
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i am just like you. considering both city V spec and sylphy VL. No VL to test drive in Penang only lower specs have.
I am looking more to the safety features of both which surprisingly city also have most of what sylphy have. Although both are different segment.
Thing is some things city have some things sylphy have and dont..vice versa.

Any opinions on wheels 16" (city) and 17". Does it gives better ride?

So which did you pick or still not yet pick?
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QUOTE(towar @ May 29 2014, 01:09 AM)
still better than your crappy vios and camry which is using ancient tech, 4 speed auto, 2 airbags, no ESP.
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The current Vios is not as crappy as lousy build quality cost cutting City. The Vios engine & gearbox are more reliable and better FC than the crap City with weak gearbox. Toyota already had dual VVTi 1.5L engine on standby for the Vios and will only give us if its sales is losing to competitors badly, this has always been their trend.

As for the Camry, the new redesigned Avalon Camry is on its way to production. Why still talk about the wrongly designed Camry? Despite 4AT and 2 airbags, the Camry 2.0 could beat Accord that copied Hyundai Genesis in terms of acceleration, strength and power. You take the Camry 2.5 vs Accord 2.4, your Accord lost in terms of reliability, pulling power aka torque, FC and responsiveness.

Why didn't you compare Altis vs Civic? Don't dare to compare because it defeats your Civic in overall practicality?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 3 2014, 10:23 PM)
The current Vios is not as crappy as lousy build quality cost cutting City. The Vios engine & gearbox are more reliable and better FC than the crap City with weak gearbox. Toyota already had dual VVTi 1.5L engine on standby for the Vios and will only give us if its sales is losing to competitors badly, this has always been their trend.

As for the Camry, the new redesigned Avalon Camry is on its way to production. Why still talk about the wrongly designed Camry? Despite 4AT and 2 airbags, the Camry 2.0 could beat Accord that copied Hyundai Genesis in terms of acceleration, strength and power.  You take the Camry 2.5 vs Accord 2.4, your Accord lost in terms of reliability, pulling power aka torque, FC and responsiveness.

Why didn't you compare Altis vs Civic? Don't dare to compare because it defeats your Civic in overall practicality?
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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 29 2014, 05:26 AM)
Sure or not?
New from where?

Renault or Nissan Gear box is under one roof.. Not realiable is due to user usage without changing gear oil wow...

How you gonna be explain?
Like you serving out side workshop kena cheat with engine oil as gear oil then died died to be change whole new gb at that time also...

If wanna said right... All to be user faut.
Anyway got come with warranty then just done in serving center lah.

I beileved nothing brands to be realiable too.
If really the carmarkers can be close shop.

Good FC for sure it newer can be the winner, my old one can prompt you 12.72km/L
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You can change your comment like you never mentioned it. Here what you said when I replied you earlier:

kimsim said : "Renault fluence interior not really nicer then new Sylphy, anyway Renault parts more expansive than Nissan. And also Nissan really not specialist for Renault, so far Renault still dun have service centre in JB yet."

Aren't you attacking Renault here? It's like you're the first wife, your husband got a 2nd wife and he's now treating her much better than you. So you, jolokia and feelfree get jealous and attack the 2nd wife. Lol!
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Dat stearing wheel tho.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 30 2014, 02:05 PM)
U still face to come back here after simply says the China Altis price i indicate is previous model, now u alrady check the price show dispite Sylphy is more expensive than Altis still it sell better then Altis.

This is strong evidence that "our" Slyphy is the Best  thumbup.gif

Your laoya NASA don't dare to bring in 1.6 Rio as they have price the 1.4 too high, that why now they can't bring in 1.6 as the gap between 1.6 Rio would be too close to 1.6 Cerato.

Why so high tech about Vios ? 4 speed AT ? or that old since 1st generation engine ? let me guess u mean the new head light or sticker ...  laugh.gif

U go & check what is the RV for Sonata EF now, the fellow lost 90% RV when he sold his Sonata EF after 10 years, in fact he can't get any used car to buy it, if he wasn't buying new car & dealer had no choice but to get someone trade in, probably that junk would rotting in his garage.

I can even see Datsun 120Y & Nissan 130Y running on road, in fact many light blue outstation taxi still using very old but very durable Nissan, where is your laoya KIAsu & Hontai, even your Sephia, Old Rio, old accent, already look like kereta buruk, Old Elantra throw on the also no one care to pick it up, totally worthless in used car market.

Couple years from now your Forte EX Kosong & Buruk would also become worthless after been trash by your crazy test... whistling.gif
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New Altis just got its way in China as they have to make way for the China-Japan made version of cheaper Altis that is nothing more than our old Altis 2003 with CHina styling. Also, Toyota has EU Altis and US Altis (Auris) sold in China separately at different price gap. Which one are you referring? Altis in China got split into 2, so you take either 1, the volume might be lower.

The current Vios, the advantage is in its build quality and frame chassis. The engine is old carried forward but still good enough to beat your crap City and that jolokia's limo almera. Both Almera and City are lousy junk that are sluggish and lousy in build quality until P1 doesn't treat them as threat.

Couple of years from now, my Forte EX is still in 1 piece having stable RV with low maintenance + cheap spare parts.

By then, your Sylphy/Teana already starting to have CVT gearbox issue, might need to buy brand new where it is enough for you to pay for new car. Old Sonata EF, Elantra or Sephia/Spectra from 2001, you give very good trade in price, why is that so if nobody want.

Datsun 120Y mostly in non-roadworthy state where they would stall anytime soon. Instead, it was Toyota Corolla that are still in 1 piece where people would want to steal it despite older than you.
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New Altis just got its way in China as they have to make way for the China-Japan made version of cheaper Altis that is nothing more than our old Altis 2003 with CHina styling. Also, Toyota has EU Altis and US Altis (Auris) sold in China separately at different price gap. Which one are you referring? Altis in China got split into 2, so you take either 1, the volume might be lower.

The current Vios, the advantage is in its build quality and frame chassis. The engine is old carried forward but still good enough to beat your crap City and that jolokia's limo almera. Both Almera and City are lousy junk that are sluggish and lousy in build quality until P1 doesn't treat them as threat.

Couple of years from now, my Forte EX is still in 1 piece having stable RV with low maintenance + cheap spare parts.

By then, your Sylphy/Teana already starting to have CVT gearbox issue, might need to buy brand new where it is enough for you to pay for new car. Old Sonata EF, Elantra or Sephia/Spectra from 2001, you give very good trade in price, why is that so if nobody want.

Datsun 120Y mostly in non-roadworthy state where they would stall anytime soon. Instead, it was Toyota Corolla that are still in 1 piece where people would want to steal it despite older than you.
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Lu ala butul boh ?

Maybe Antique Vios is just like your 4 speed Jurassic Forte EX Kosong that why u think is still up to date... laugh.gif

Since when i downgrade to Almera ? Must ride much better then Almera leh... whistling.gif

Couple year from now your Forte EX Kosong is as good as Spectra if not Sephia..scrap value.. rclxm9.gif

I am 88 years old woh ! where got Corolla older than me...wkakakaka cool2.gif
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QUOTE(kopiride @ Jun 3 2014, 04:25 PM)
i am just like you. considering both city V spec and sylphy VL. No VL to test drive in Penang only lower specs have.
I am looking more to the safety features of both which surprisingly city also have most of what sylphy have. Although both are different segment.
Thing is some things city have some things sylphy have and dont..vice versa.

Any opinions on wheels 16" (city) and 17". Does it gives better ride?

So which did you pick or still not yet pick?
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Both diff segment, boil down to ur pocket, I already booked sylphy VL v navi package 1half month ago, I choose this over City purely it's a bigger car and should be better on highway cruising, period.
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QUOTE(taphie78 @ Jun 5 2014, 03:43 PM)
Both diff segment, boil down to ur pocket, I already booked sylphy VL v navi package 1half month ago, I choose this over City purely it's a bigger car and should be better on highway cruising, period.
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When u get ur car?and what is the offer u get from the salesman?
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When u get ur car?and what is the offer u get from the salesman?
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Was just informed by my SA that my order of VL spec has been allocated, guess for the rest of you who have ordered the high VL spec should be getting your cars real soon too rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 6 2014, 05:51 PM)
Was just informed by my SA that my order of VL spec has been allocated, guess  for the rest of you who have ordered the high VL spec should be getting your cars real soon too rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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what is the offer u get from the salesman?
and what colour u buy?




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I have also got the allocation confirmation of VL spec. Booked some time end of April in Penang. Should be delivered in about one week time. smile.gif
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QUOTE(chiew @ Jun 7 2014, 03:53 PM)
I have also got the allocation confirmation of VL spec. Booked some time end of April in Penang. Should be delivered in about one week time. smile.gif
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Mine too in Penang, fingers crossed, hopefully can get the car by 15th. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(towar @ Jun 4 2014, 12:30 AM)
only toyota saleman like yourself can be so thick skin and tak tau malu, dare to claim that ancient 10 year old tech can beat modern competitors.
whats the use of reliablity ? you yourself stated that 10 years old car cant get bank loan which makes RV useless.
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Despite Toyota Vios, Camry using ancient tech, their ancient tech is still more advanced than your Honta obsolete tech.

Since used cars RV is now deeply affected by the >10 years age no more loan limitation under revised rule, this means cars with best reliability only get good RV. As for your City, if like that, people already have to fork out own cash to buy the car as bank loan will start not taking in cars close to 10 years, even just 8 years old. So who would be that rich to buy poor reliability Honta and fork out several thousands to fix. If CVT gearbox damage, you think they can fork out RM17k just to buy the gearbox after paying so much for the used City?

For the first time, City owners get worst RV drop. That means City deteriorated more than Forte already. FYI, Forte RV is quite stable nowadays, only behind Vios based on insurance coverage price and actual price paid by used car buyers.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jun 4 2014, 06:16 PM)
Lu ala butul boh ?

Maybe Antique Vios is just like your 4 speed Jurassic Forte EX Kosong that why u think is still up to date... laugh.gif

Since when i downgrade to Almera ? Must ride much better then Almera leh... whistling.gif

Couple year from now your Forte EX Kosong is as good as Spectra if not Sephia..scrap value.. rclxm9.gif

I am 88 years old woh ! where got Corolla older than me...wkakakaka  cool2.gif
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Forte 1.6 Gamma engine is using 2nd generation intake only VVT and the 4AT gearbox is higher end one with 2.9 first gear. The Vios despite using 1st generation intake only VVT, it still beats City and Almera in FC.

As for your Almera, the engine is worse than Vios tech, plus with length that long, it drags the weak obsolete engine further giving sluggish startup movement from idle.
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QUOTE(chiew @ Jun 7 2014, 03:53 PM)
I have also got the allocation confirmation of VL spec. Booked some time end of April in Penang. Should be delivered in about one week time. smile.gif
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was the price firm or got any discounts?
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what is the offer u get from the salesman?
and what colour u buy?
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Just good trade in value for my used nissan and the armor coat tint.
Mine is bronze gold. Heard red allocation all taken up.

Btw my SA did mention front wipers at its resting position cannot be lifted up. Rather you need to position it vertically all the way across the screen before can lift up the wipers. This is especially true during car wash but I am more worried those roadside people simply lift up wipers to put flyers or etc... SA will demonstrate proper way when I get the car. Anyone else heard about this issue?

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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 7 2014, 11:01 PM)
Just good trade in value for my used nissan and the armor coat tint.
Mine is bronze gold. Heard red allocation all taken up.

Btw my SA did mention front wipers at its resting position cannot be lifted up. Rather you need to position it vertically all the way across the screen before can lift up the wipers. This is especially true during car wash but I am more worried those roadside people simply lift up wipers to put flyers or etc... SA will demonstrate proper way when I get the car. Anyone else heard about this issue?
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Hello..do let me know when your car arrive. I wanna see hows the actual bronze gold looks like. If you are from penang. Thanks
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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 7 2014, 11:01 PM)
Just good trade in value for my used nissan and the armor coat tint.
Mine is bronze gold. Heard red allocation all taken up.

Btw my SA did mention front wipers at its resting position cannot be lifted up. Rather you need to position it vertically all the way across the screen before can lift up the wipers. This is especially true during car wash but I am more worried those roadside people simply lift up wipers to put flyers or etc... SA will demonstrate proper way when I get the car. Anyone else heard about this issue?
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the wiper i really not understand.
why cant lift up when resting position?
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Hello..do let me know when your car arrive. I wanna see hows the actual bronze gold looks like.  If you are from penang. Thanks
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showroom got the sylphy in gold colour.I also very difficult to decide the colour(silver or gold)
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QUOTE(JayChouYEE @ Jun 8 2014, 02:52 AM)
showroom got the sylphy in gold colour.I also very difficult to decide the colour(silver or gold)
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Silver looks pretty dull and boring while the gold has a premium look to it. That's why I chose gold. It looks really classy at night too. On the wiper issue I can only update once I got more details..

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QUOTE(kopiride @ Jun 8 2014, 12:01 AM)
Hello..do let me know when your car arrive. I wanna see hows the actual bronze gold looks like.  If you are from penang. Thanks
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I am not from Penang but you can check out video of the sylphy at paultan.org. It uses the same gold color.
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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 8 2014, 07:32 AM)
Silver looks pretty dull and boring while the gold has a premium look to it. That's why I chose gold. It looks really classy at night too. On the wiper issue I can only update once I got more details..
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It's the design of the front bonnet and wipers, u can check out on youtube

http://youtu.be/irt4s_kJx9Y

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It's the design of the front bonnet and wipers, u can check out on youtube

http://youtu.be/irt4s_kJx9Y
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Thanks. Do not understand Thai but at least we know the reason now
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It's the design of the front bonnet and wipers, u can check out on youtube

http://youtu.be/irt4s_kJx9Y
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really good video.Let me know what is the problem for wiper.
May I know all of you choose what colour for the car?
and anyone add on the navi package?

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really good video.Let me know what is the problem for wiper.
May I know all of you choose what colour for the car?
and anyone add on the navi package?
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I purchased based model with Navi.
By the way, noted this week that there is more Sylphy on the road under new "Japanese C Segment Car Group" in Guangzhou China

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i have decided to cancel my teana booking and go for the 1.8vl sylphy.
city booking cancelled too

sylphy won ..

i have been driving a "on loan "previous gen sylphy for 2 days... and this contributed to me making this decision. my wife also prefers this.

how long to get the caR? bronze gold....
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Jun 11 2014, 09:07 PM)
i have decided to cancel my teana booking  and go for the 1.8vl sylphy.
city booking cancelled too

sylphy won ..

i have been driving a "on loan "previous gen sylphy for 2 days... and this contributed to me making this decision. my wife also prefers this.

how long to get the caR?  bronze gold....
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Haha For mr teana is big and expensive.I also consider City Sylphy Cerato and Elantra.
And finally I choose sylphy too.Mine is silver colour.
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Looks like next week will be a excited week.
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Looks like next week will be a excited week.
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Yes I expect to take delivery of my VL early next week too rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Jun 11 2014, 09:07 PM)
i have decided to cancel my teana booking  and go for the 1.8vl sylphy.
city booking cancelled too

sylphy won ..

i have been driving a "on loan "previous gen sylphy for 2 days... and this contributed to me making this decision. my wife also prefers this.

how long to get the caR?  bronze gold....
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HI, can you comment more base on what factors that you and your wife decided for Slyphy rather than Teana or City?
elaboration will be appreciated.

Thank you
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Guys, a bit update

My SA contact me just now to tell that display unit of VL variant will be available at their showroom tomorrow..

As some of may already know, at this moment THE WHOLE MALAYSIA showroom is taking turn to display THAT ONE UNIT VL variant..

Only in july u can see VL in show room, so those who are interested, you can go to Nissan Shah Alam Seksyen 15 tomorrow..

ONLY TOMORROW.. The next day other place will take it..

I really want to check out the VL variant, i purposely leave my contact number so that the SA can let me know when the thing reach their showroom. But i am unfortunate enough tomorrow have to rush back to hometown.

So i have no choice but to wait until july to view the VL variant..

Hope this helps.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Jun 13 2014, 06:47 PM)
Guys,  a bit update

My SA contact me just now to tell that display unit of VL variant will be available at their showroom tomorrow..

As some of may already know,  at this moment THE WHOLE MALAYSIA showroom is taking turn to display THAT ONE UNIT VL variant..

Only in july u can see VL in show room,  so those who are interested,  you can go to Nissan Shah Alam Seksyen 15 tomorrow..

ONLY TOMORROW..  The next day other place will take it..

I really want to check out the VL variant, i purposely leave my contact number so that the SA can let me know when the thing reach their showroom. But i am unfortunate enough tomorrow have to rush back to hometown.

So i have no choice but to wait until july to view the VL variant..

Hope this helps..  smile.gif
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I had saw the VL car.If you feel E spec is good,then u will like VL.
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next week is the first sylphy vl delivery?


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next week is the first sylphy vl delivery?
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Will get my VL next week, probably Monday. Process goes something like this
1. Car allocation
2. Arrange full payment
3. Stand by for insurance & arrange loan if any
4. Car sent to JPJ for inspection
5. Car fix tinted - for those with FOC armor coat tint
6. Car registration and issue roadtax
7. Collection of car

Whole process should take around 10 days on average I think.

For those who have extra dough, I strongly encourage this VL spec due to auto xenon headlights, DRL lights, rear aircond vents, digital aircond, reverse camera, push start, auto side mirror, leather seat, bigger tyres... all which worth the extra 10k spent..you will not regret..

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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 13 2014, 09:57 PM)
Will get my VL next week, probably Monday. Process goes something like this
1. Car allocation
2. Arrange full payment
3. Stand by for insurance & arrange loan if any
4. Car sent to JPJ for inspection
5. Car fix tinted - for those with FOC armor coat tint
6. Car registration and issue roadtax
7. Collection of car

Whole process should take around 10 days on average I think.

For those who have extra dough, I strongly encourage this VL spec due to auto xenon headlights, DRL lights, rear aircond vents, digital aircond, reverse camera, push start, auto side mirror, leather seat, bigger tyres... all which worth the extra 10k spent..you will not regret..
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10days but u think u can get it at monday mean ur car had been done all the thing u list?or just next week the car just arrive Malaysia to register?

fully agree with u VL more worst cause 10k but a lot of things.

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Is the vl 17inch rims same design with the lower spec one?
Lucky me I cancelled the city.
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Jun 14 2014, 07:01 AM)
Is the vl 17inch rims same design with the lower spec one?
Lucky me I cancelled the city.
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look like but not really same.a bit different.
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QUOTE(JayChouYEE @ Jun 14 2014, 01:02 AM)
10days but u think u can get it at monday mean ur car had been done all the thing u list?or just next week the car just arrive Malaysia to register?

fully agree with u VL more worst cause 10k but a lot of things.
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Car arrived here in Malaysia end of May. Allocation of car took about one week. Another 10 days to settle all the things I mentioned. But everything have to be smooth sailing.. your SA need to follow up promptly and you need to make sure your loan application dont take too long. My loan already approved last month, so just a matter of signing the documents. Expect more delivery of VL spec within next 2weeks and then hopefully we will see more on the road
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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 14 2014, 12:15 PM)
Car arrived here in Malaysia end of May. Allocation of car took about one week. Another 10 days to settle all the things I mentioned. But everything have to be smooth sailing.. your SA need to follow up promptly and you need to make sure your loan application dont take too long. My loan already approved last month, so just a matter of signing the documents. Expect more delivery of VL spec within next 2weeks and then hopefully we will see more on the road
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ya,my sa said if no any problem,next week maybe can collect car.
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QUOTE(JayChouYEE @ Jun 14 2014, 08:44 AM)
look like but not really same.a bit different.
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Lower spec E-variant only 16" but according to the paultan.org review, the E-spec seem to have an edge on handling and steering feel. For most of us we are not able to test drive both versions as all the showrooms only have E spec for test drive. Anyway do not think it will be much of a difference for us all.

On another note, I noticed that the rear bonnet does not have the 1.8E or 1.8VL emblem. anyone noticed this too?
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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 14 2014, 02:45 PM)
Lower spec E-variant only 16" but according to the paultan.org review, the E-spec seem to have an edge on handling and steering feel. For most of us we are not able to test drive both versions as all the showrooms only have E spec for test drive. Anyway do not think it will be much of a difference for us all.

On another note, I noticed that the rear bonnet does not have the 1.8E or 1.8VL emblem. anyone noticed this too?
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i think the steering feel is no much different.
For the rear,no words show E spec or VL but u will have a spoiler with third red light if u buy VL spec.
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QUOTE(JayChouYEE @ Jun 14 2014, 03:33 PM)
i think the steering feel is no much different.
For the rear,no words show E spec or VL but u will have a spoiler with third red light if u buy VL spec.
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Ya right but feel funny why they dont have variant emblem on rear bonet..mostly they will have..
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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 14 2014, 12:15 PM)
Car arrived here in Malaysia end of May. Allocation of car took about one week. Another 10 days to settle all the things I mentioned. But everything have to be smooth sailing.. your SA need to follow up promptly and you need to make sure your loan application dont take too long. My loan already approved last month, so just a matter of signing the documents. Expect more delivery of VL spec within next 2weeks and then hopefully we will see more on the road
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Jz back from Inspecting my new unregister VL with Navi package Diamond White Slyphy, rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
Already paid the balance, Was very happy to c the car.

Really beautiful. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

The rim & tires are different in design and size to E spec.. the Conti Premium Contact 2 tire apparently is more bumpy compare to E Spec Ecopia 150 but Conti is superb in Grip and breaking... performance vs Eco (E Spec)

Back hav no Emblem of which VL or E but with 3rd break light on a spoiler than E spec inside.

Will undergo Quartz Coating on monday and tinting then by tuesday or wednesday on the road..... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(taphie78 @ Jun 14 2014, 04:40 PM)
Jz back from Inspecting my new unregister VL with Navi package Diamond White Slyphy,  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
Already paid the balance, Was very happy to c the car.

Really beautiful. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

The rim & tires are different in design and size to E spec.. the Conti Premium Contact 2 tire apparently is more bumpy compare to E Spec Ecopia 150 but Conti is superb in Grip and breaking... performance vs Eco (E Spec)

Back hav no Emblem of which VL or E but with 3rd break light on a spoiler than E spec inside.

Will undergo Quartz Coating on monday and tinting then by tuesday or wednesday on the road..... thumbup.gif
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Great. R the 17 inch rims better? No photos? I guess I made the right choice
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QUOTE(taphie78 @ Jun 14 2014, 04:40 PM)
Jz back from Inspecting my new unregister VL with Navi package Diamond White Slyphy,  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
Already paid the balance, Was very happy to c the car.

Really beautiful. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

The rim & tires are different in design and size to E spec.. the Conti Premium Contact 2 tire apparently is more bumpy compare to E Spec Ecopia 150 but Conti is superb in Grip and breaking... performance vs Eco (E Spec)

Back hav no Emblem of which VL or E but with 3rd break light on a spoiler than E spec inside.

Will undergo Quartz Coating on monday and tinting then by tuesday or wednesday on the road..... thumbup.gif
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may i know where u book ur cars?and where u go for inspecting the unregister car?segambut?
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Jun 14 2014, 06:47 PM)
Great. R the 17 inch rims better? No photos? I guess I made the right choice
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This is rim of VL spec
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Great. R the 17 inch rims better? No photos? I guess I made the right choice
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This is the rim for E spec.
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may i know where u book ur cars?and where u go for inspecting the unregister car?segambut?
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I booked in Penang, so everything done in penang.

From auto world and paultan review, it appears E spec has better ride comfort and stability (due to better steering feedback)
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After collect the car,should go to install the pedal lock.
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After collect the car,should go to install the pedal lock.
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Any particular brand of pedal lock in mind?
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QUOTE(sassyguy @ Jun 14 2014, 10:55 PM)
Any particular brand of pedal lock in mind?
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I think famous is locktech (from thailand)
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Does anyone knows is there any USB port in sylphy?
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Does anyone knows is there any USB port in sylphy?
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E spec is no
VL spec is yes
if u add on the navi,then both E and VL will be yes.

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E spec is no
VL spec is yes
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Thanks for your reply, but where is that port in VL spec?
Because I just tested both today but didn't notice any.
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Thanks for your reply, but where is that port in VL spec?
Because I just tested both today but didn't notice any.
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Hows the handling and comfort and bumpyness on vl compared to E?
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Thanks for your reply, but where is that port in VL spec?
Because I just tested both today but didn't notice any.
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Inside the central console box. Abit old style, but with navi package will on the head unit
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Look like no pedal lock is avaible for VL spec?
Isn't any of you know which brand has the pedal lock for VL spec?
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Look like no pedal lock is avaible for VL spec?
Isn't any of you know which brand has the pedal lock for VL spec?
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if u came across one, do let me know. thanks
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QUOTE(JayChouYEE @ Jun 16 2014, 05:49 PM)
Look like no pedal lock is avaible for VL spec?
Isn't any of you know which brand has the pedal lock for VL spec?
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Push up button does not require to pedal lock anymore
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Push up button does not require to pedal lock anymore
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You so trust the system?cause i heard some can hack the system.My car put outside so need improve security.
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QUOTE(JayChouYEE @ Jun 16 2014, 07:43 PM)
You so trust the system?cause i heard some can hack the system.My car put outside so need improve security.
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So pity new car park outside sad.gif

Ok lah, wait and see when m'sia import from Thailand
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 16 2014, 07:57 PM)
So pity new car park outside sad.gif

Ok lah, wait and see when m'sia import from Thailand
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no choice.poor mah
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no choice.poor mah
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dude, now those ******* if really want to steal your car, they will use a tow truck to tow your car away, no matter what kind of lock you use, they will still able to unlock it after they tow away your car.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jun 16 2014, 11:03 PM)
dude, now those ******* if really want to steal your car, they will use a tow truck to tow your car away, no matter what kind of lock you use, they will still able to unlock it after they tow away your car.
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