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tctham
post Apr 11 2014, 09:26 AM

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from what ppl tell me, the value of your car should be no more than your annual salary.. calculating back.. you should be taking home 25k salary per month in order to own a car worth 300k. of course you could be buying that car with lesser than 25k/mth, but it's not financially wise..
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 10 2014, 08:36 PM)
Take your month income, multiply by 12. That's the limit for the car you can afford.
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hmmm reeeaaally ah
so 2k rm24k car only?
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(kopihazelnut @ Apr 10 2014, 08:01 PM)
pay cash la..
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Apr 11 2014, 04:26 AM)
from what ppl tell me, the value of your car should be no more than your annual salary.. calculating back.. you should be taking home 25k salary per month in order to own a car worth 300k. of course you could be buying that car with lesser than 25k/mth, but it's not financially wise..
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net or gross income jek laugh.gif
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(mricetea13 @ Apr 11 2014, 09:29 AM)
hmmm reeeaaally ah
so 2k rm24k car only?
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therefore get a z250 instead of a car brows.gif
ravi6662
post Apr 11 2014, 09:35 AM

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real cost is only 1/3 in malaysia..

so ur real cost of car is 100k

and 200k is on taxes..


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post Apr 11 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Apr 10 2014, 08:03 PM)
if i earn 20 million a month also i wont buy a 300k car.

my brains will immediately go ka ching, forcing me to sell said car immediately (maybe get RM260K back),invest in a trust fund, generating returns of RM30K per year, and buy a Myvi by taking the longest bank loan (hopefully my car cost is RM600 per month)

so the RM30K returns per year, i invest it in another trust fund, netting me RM6K per year, enough to cover my car cost

Hence, instead of losing 300k on a car, i use the RETURNS OF THE RETURNS of the price, to buy a myvi.
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With 20 mil on hand/MONTH, you more or less has reached financial freedom, at least for 1 generation. As a wiseman said before; if poor but spend more than you earn, thats an idiot. Likewise, a wealthy man who don't spend at all, also another idiot. Happiness = Wealth. Waiting to the end of days only to realise you stockpiled 1000 million in bank but never had the opportunity to spend, thats not smart.
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Apr 10 2014, 08:28 PM)
not really.

notice how out of the 300k, only the returns of the 30k is used to buy a car.
in fact, the 260k are all making more money to make more money for me.

all my earnings are making more money to make more money for me.

in short, by not buying a car, you are less a slave of your own money

because buying a car means you have to slave to pay for the debt, pay for maintainence, and work more.
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And for what is your BIG BIG BIG money you have? Take it to your grave?
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(mricetea13 @ Apr 11 2014, 09:29 AM)
hmmm reeeaaally ah
so 2k rm24k car only?
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Yes.

So if you're a fresh grad, buy second hand Saga.
No need first month of work buy God car Vios.
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Apr 10 2014, 07:52 PM)
for me as long as it can get u from point a to point b would be enuff for me . no need for expensive cars
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just different need and hobby, some like football, some like car,some like chick...

there is nothing wrong or correct...

tctham
post Apr 11 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 11 2014, 09:34 AM)
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net or gross income jek  laugh.gif
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gross le.. net income damn jialat lo.. i think i won't be able to afford a car till dunno when..
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(hkindaichi @ Apr 11 2014, 09:45 AM)
And for what is your BIG BIG BIG money you have? Take it to your grave?
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Top to bottom depending on priority.

endowment fund
foundation
trust
charity

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hkindaichi
post Apr 11 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Apr 10 2014, 09:02 PM)
you dont understand simply because you are not in my position

Why do you think warren buffet still want to earn money despite being a billionaire?
Why do you think taib want to have power on sarawak despite being a billionaire?

every billionaire in top 20, continue to strive to become a billionaire

Once you reach my position, you will understand the real meaning of money. Money is not about spending on this that, showing off in a car, whatever

money is a game of life. it doesnt matter if i spend or do not spend on myself, but money is a game. all spending is meaningless in the spirit of the game of making more money. how much money can i ever accumulate? how big can my power and empire grow? how much money can i make in my lifetime? these are the questions once you reach financial independence. its no longer about how big car i can drive etc etc. those are just side dishes to the main game of money.
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Looks like Haji Bakhil to me. I'd rather be like Bill Gates, give a money to others and myself rather than collect it (without even spend it) like never ending mission.
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(PELAQ @ Apr 11 2014, 04:34 AM)
therefore get a z250 instead of a car brows.gif
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QUOTE(ravi6662 @ Apr 11 2014, 04:35 AM)
real cost is only 1/3 in malaysia..

so ur real cost of car is 100k

and 200k is on taxes..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 11 2014, 04:46 AM)
Yes.

So if you're a fresh grad, buy second hand Saga.
No need first month of work buy God car Vios.
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QUOTE(tctham @ Apr 11 2014, 04:48 AM)
gross le.. net income damn jialat lo.. i think i won't be able to afford a car till dunno when..
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wont be, net and gross only diff bit nia
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(FindingGamerWife @ Apr 11 2014, 07:27 AM)
read properly

the first purchase consideration is a car. A car wont save you more time irregardless of what car you drive. (myvi or honda or toyota, you will still get stuck in the same jam) hence, since there is no time saving, there is no luxury time accumulated, and hence, in monetary terms, you have wasted money

warren buffet bought a plane. A plane can save a few hours of travel and queueing compared to its next best alternative (commercial aircraft). Furthermore, it allows flexibility for warren buffet to schedule his meetings. For someone who have a luxury time valued at USD 100,000-150,000 per hour like warren buffet, if he travels everyday, he can easily accumulate a few million USD worth of luxury time.

Luxury time, can easily be converted to money (by working, making an investment decision, etc), hence in monetary terms, is effective.

TLDR: Time is money
Expensive car saves you no time, hence you wasted $(price of car) Expensive car saves you no time, hence you wasted $(price of car)
Private airplane saves time, hence, it is not a waste if opportunity cost is less than Value of time saved.
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If naik Myvi second will rosak tengah jalan how?
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post Apr 11 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(hkindaichi @ Apr 11 2014, 09:52 AM)
Looks like Haji Bakhil to me. I'd rather be like Bill Gates, give a money to others and myself rather than collect it (without even spend it) like never ending mission.
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i plan to set up foundation, trusts, and charity under my name
my target is 30 mil by 2055. its not much, but enough to hire a good manager once I die. (it is hard to open a foundation if the asset size is too small)

This post has been edited by FindingGamerWife: Apr 11 2014, 09:58 AM
tctham
post Apr 11 2014, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 11 2014, 09:54 AM)
drool.gif chick magnet
welkum to maresia
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wont be, net and gross only diff bit nia
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makes quite a lot difference lo.. EPF alone will dock off 11%, that's not yet count other things like SOCSO, Income tax, phone bill, house rental (if you're not local), food and etc.. maybe my net calculation diff la.. but if calculate like this, my net and my gross quite big diff.. sad.gif
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post Apr 11 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Apr 11 2014, 09:26 AM)
from what ppl tell me, the value of your car should be no more than your annual salary.. calculating back.. you should be taking home 25k salary per month in order to own a car worth 300k. of course you could be buying that car with lesser than 25k/mth, but it's not financially wise..
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that is true but for BMW people from the very rich to just scrape by owns it hahaha
tctham
post Apr 11 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Apr 11 2014, 10:04 AM)
that is true but for BMW people from the very rich to just scrape by owns it hahaha
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i also wanna change car.. but recently baru read the car value = annual salary.. i realize i cannot change any car.. ok la.. so be it la..

actually i no need change car yet.. but recently heard some hurtful words.. sad.gif i guess i need to work harder.. :'(
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post Apr 11 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Apr 11 2014, 10:06 AM)
i also wanna change car.. but recently baru read the car value = annual salary.. i realize i cannot change any car.. ok la.. so be it la..

actually i no need change car yet.. but recently heard some hurtful words.. sad.gif i guess i need to work harder.. :'(
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it is normal for middle class serfs to attempt to lure you into their wasteful lifestyle.

They do so by

- Pressuring you to get married with beautiful expensive wife
- Pressuring you to buy expensive car
- Pressure you to wear branded clothes
- Pressure you to eat in expensive dining halls
- Pressuring you to go on expensive holidays
- Pressure you to have expensive weddings etc.

They will say you have no life if you dont marry beautiful expensive wife OR do not have exp car OR not using branded clothes OR not going to expensive diners OR not going to expensive holidays OR not having an expensive wedding.

In short, you have no life, unless you live like a middle class serf.

Thats why, majority of malaysians are middle class serf. they have no ability to say no, and hence, they get swept in wasteful lifestyle, and get drowned in debt.

Do whatever you want. Live however you want to live. Do whatever you enjoy. your life is yours. Not theirs.

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