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post Apr 7 2014, 10:21 PM, updated 12y ago

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Fundsupermart.com (FSM) Malaysia is the online unit trust distribution arm of iFAST Capital Sdn Bhd ("iFAST Capital"). iFAST Capital is a subsidiary of iFAST-OSK Sdn Bhd. iFAST-OSK Sdn Bhd is an investment holding company and is a joint venture between Malaysia's OSK Investment Bank Berhad and iFAST Corporation Pte Ltd ("iFAST Corp").

iFAST Capital is a holder of a Capital Markets Services Licence (CMSL) and is licensed by the Securities Commission to conduct the following regulated activities:

- To deal in unit trusts
- To offer investment advisory services

iFAST Capital is also registered with the Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia (FiMM) as an Institutional Unit Trust Adviser (IUTA).



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1. Wide range of information
2. Extensive product range and value-added services
3. One of the cheapest Sales Charges in town! thumbup.gif


To keep discussions at this thread fruitful and constructive, it would be greatly appreciated that fellow investors try to look for answer to their queries at Frequently Asked Questions before posting here. icon_rolleyes.gif

What is unit trust?
Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia - ABC of Unit Trusts

Other FAQs on Fundsupermart.com and unit trust investing in general

1. NAV pricing and processing time
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2. The NAV price of the fund that I'm interested in is quite high now, should I stay away? Investment gurus always say "buy low, sell high"...
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3. Common misconceptions about unit trust dividends/distributions:

(i) After dividend distribution, NAV price will go down, the fund will become cheaper.
(ii) A fund that declares dividends is better than a fund that does not, dividends are my profit, they make me richer.

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(iii) Topping up my holdings after dividend distribution pulls down my cost per unit, lower cost = higher profit.
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(iv) Distribution = Income
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Ok so after dividend distribution, you get some additional units and NAV drops. Then after few weeks if fund perform well then NAV increases to the point where it is back to the NAV before distribution. Doesnt it mean you gain some income from distribution?
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 25 2013, 11:19 PM)
Then what's the point of dividend distribution since units and NAV price has negative correlation?
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4. Annual Management Charge, Trustee Fee and NAV pricing
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5. Return On Investment (ROI) vs Annualised Return, similar to Internal Rate of Return (IRR)
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Haha.. Fast wor. tot this hour you busy with ah Moi
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 7 2014, 10:24 PM)
Haha..  Fast wor. tot this hour you busy with ah Moi
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Every night also see amoi meh? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 7 2014, 11:26 PM)
Every night also see amoi meh? tongue.gif
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Haha.. OK OK. Today your rest day. Liver and bro need to rest
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post Apr 7 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 7 2014, 10:26 PM)
Every night also see amoi meh? tongue.gif
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Wat if amoi every nite want?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 7 2014, 10:32 PM)
Wat if amoi every nite want?
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Ok lar...

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US tech market lead biggest selloff....anyone buying facebook, twitter, tesla shares? biggrin.gif

2nd day big bleeding for the US stock market....

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is it time to topup EI GL?
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Another version, feel older also...
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Apr 7 2014, 10:39 PM)
US tech market lead biggest selloff....anyone buying facebook, twitter, tesla shares? biggrin.gif

2nd day big bleeding for the US stock market....
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FINALLY...today I'm topping up RHB-OSK GEYF and Pacific GSF biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 8 2014, 07:52 AM)
FINALLY...today I'm topping up RHB-OSK GEYF and Pacific GSF biggrin.gif
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Feel like it's still too early. For the past 5 days it's only dropping around 300+ points. Still above 16k mark worrrr.. Can top up meh?
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 8 2014, 08:40 AM)
Feel like it's still too early. For the past 5 days it's only dropping around 300+ points. Still above 16k mark worrrr.. Can top up meh?
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Nikkei also started bad today...perhaps only RHB-OSK GEYF first? Pacific KIV dulu tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 8 2014, 09:35 AM)
Nikkei also started bad today...perhaps only RHB-OSK GEYF first? Pacific KIV dulu tongue.gif
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Tempting me to top up la you.. Haha
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 8 2014, 10:14 AM)
Tempting me to top up la you.. Haha
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But hor...I see my portfolio summary, past 3-months performance one of the best in recent times...perhaps, to wait for lower? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 8 2014, 10:15 AM)
But hor...I see my portfolio summary, past 3-months performance one of the best in recent times...perhaps, to wait for lower? hmm.gif
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YTD my portfolio has increased 2% (must emphasize.. ROI). Market is still high in value, my top up point is actually at 15.5k and 15k for DJIA.

If you have a reference for top up, can share smile.gif

P/S: BI has lots of article published saying there's still plenty of upside for US.

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I also think US market is still high despite the drop in the past few days.

By the way, how do you determine how much to topup? Using a fixed %?
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The amount I top up depends on the level of drop. Then I evaluate my equity/bond proportion, geographical exposure proportion and balance accordingly now and then.
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Can't wait for my next gaji to come in so i can topup. and save up some portion to have enough 1k to buy my next ut. any suggestion what to buy next?

already got kenanga and eastspring small cap. smile.gif
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1st Quarter 2014 Top And Bottom Equity Funds: Winners And Losers In A Volatile Quarter

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4509

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 8 2014, 01:50 PM)
Can't wait for my next gaji to come in so i can topup. and save up some portion to have enough 1k to buy my next ut. any suggestion what to buy next?

already got kenanga and eastspring small cap. smile.gif
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You've asked this question dunno how many times.

Told ya to get a global fund.
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Barings: Rebound Opportunity Brewing in Emerging Markets (Chinese Only)...April 7, 2014....Author : Baring Asset Management (Asia) Limited
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Will someone share their rebalancing technique ? I am interested to know the cheapest way to rebalance for small potato investor like me.

I am holding RHB-OSK Indonesia Equity fund, it has grown over 15% profit from my capital. I am cautious and wanted to protect my profit because tomorrow is the Election Day for Indonesia, presidential election in three months. I decided to sell off all my profit but remain the capital intact.


Since the earnings does not exceed RM1000, it does not make sense to Intra-switch to another fund because minimum switching required RM1000 plus RM25 switching fee. That is a hefty 2.5% based on the minimum switching amount. To save on SC, i sold the fund and cash in the profit to cash management fund.

Only then I use cash management fund to top up RHB-OSK GEYF with the usual 2.0 service charge.

As a new investor, did I get the rebalancing concept right ? Is there is better way to save the service charge? I saw the prospectus has transfer fee at RM5, what is it?

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may not be the rebalancing method that you are looking for.....

What Is Rebalancing? Investing Basics
Rebalancing is a simple, but reliable method used in investing. It forces investors to “buy low and sell high”, and improves the returns of your portfolio in the long term.
Author : Kelvin Yip

http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...?articleNo=2226
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 8 2014, 04:58 PM)
You've asked this question dunno how many times.

Told ya to get a global fund.
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you referring to this right?

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...umber=MYCIMB010

that CIMB Global Titan Fund
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Apr 9 2014, 10:39 AM)
you referring to this right?

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...umber=MYCIMB010

that CIMB Global Titan Fund
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I'm not a fan of that one.

I prefer RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield, Aberdeen Islamic World Equity and Pacific Global Stars.
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Apr 8 2014, 11:46 PM)
Will someone share their rebalancing technique ? I am interested to know the cheapest way to rebalance for small potato investor like me.

I am holding RHB-OSK Indonesia Equity fund, it has grown over 15% profit from my capital. I am cautious and wanted to protect my profit because tomorrow is the Election Day for Indonesia, presidential election in three months. I decided to sell off all my profit but remain the capital intact.
Since the earnings does not exceed RM1000, it does not make sense to Intra-switch to another fund because minimum switching required RM1000 plus RM25 switching fee. That is a hefty 2.5% based on the minimum switching amount. To save on SC, i sold the fund and cash in the profit to cash management fund.

Only then I use cash management fund to top up RHB-OSK GEYF with the usual 2.0 service charge.

As a new investor, did I get the rebalancing concept right ? Is there is better way to save the service charge? I saw the prospectus has transfer fee at RM5, what is it?
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Intra switching for Eastspring funds is RM25?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 9 2014, 10:42 AM)
I'm not a fan of that one.

I prefer RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield, Aberdeen Islamic World Equity and Pacific Global Stars.
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Aberdeen Islamic seems like doing pretty OK at the moment.

And btw, we don't have FSM Singapore thread over here? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Apr 9 2014, 10:44 AM)
Aberdeen Islamic seems like doing pretty OK at the moment.

And btw, we don't have FSM Singapore thread over here?  sweat.gif
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I guess not many uses FSM Singapore? unsure.gif

I'd combo RHB-OSK GEYF with Aberdeen World, cos Aberdeen World can invest in haram stocks.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Apr 9 2014, 11:44 AM)
Aberdeen Islamic seems like doing pretty OK at the moment.

And btw, we don't have FSM Singapore thread over here?  sweat.gif
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why you want FSM Singapore? You work there?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 9 2014, 10:46 AM)
I guess not many uses FSM Singapore? unsure.gif

I'd combo RHB-OSK GEYF with Aberdeen World, cos Aberdeen World can invest in haram stocks.
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blink.gif Aberdeen not shariah compliant ke?

QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 9 2014, 10:47 AM)
why you want FSM Singapore? You work there?
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well, i'm interested with the fixed-income funds that FSM Singapore is offering...

Not working there. But want to invest there. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Apr 9 2014, 10:50 AM)
blink.gif Aberdeen not shariah compliant ke?
well, i'm interested with the fixed-income funds that FSM Singapore is offering...

Not working there. But want to invest there.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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FSM getting so slow at updating their NAV price seriously. AmDynamic still at last Friday price.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 9 2014, 11:28 AM)
FSM getting so slow at updating their NAV price seriously. AmDynamic still at last Friday price.
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Now FSM's fault, AmInvestment's website also does not have the price since ex-distribution. Friday was the ex and reinvestment date, u know that right?

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Okay noted! probably going for pacific global funds next! will do some more research on rhb geyf, pacific global and kaf global as well smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 9 2014, 11:32 AM)
Now FSM's fault, AmInvestment's website also does not have the price since ex-distribution. Friday was the ex and reinvestment date, u know that right?
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Yeah. But it's been quite awhile FSM has been slow at updating their price. Last time 1 day delay. Now can go up to 2-3 times at most.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 9 2014, 12:48 PM)
Yeah. But it's been quite awhile FSM has been slow at updating their price. Last time 1 day delay. Now can go up to 2-3 times at most.
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Most of the times are for RHB-OSK funds.

I'd point the blame at RHB-OSK, their website is inferior to OSK-UOB's.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 9 2014, 10:42 AM)
Intra switching for Eastspring funds is RM25?
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Ei free lar...last time I switch from EI Equity Income to EI Global Emerging Markets...FOC switching
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 9 2014, 04:08 PM)
Ei free lar...last time I switch from EI Equity Income to EI Global Emerging Markets...FOC switching
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ya.. that is what i understand. But I read the guy post wrongly on the indo fund. I thought he as saying Eastspring Indo fund, but after recheck it is OSKRHB Indo fund. OSKRHB intra switching will kena RM25
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Investing ......Why Do Investors Make Bad Choices?....Cass R. Sunstein...Apr 9, 2014
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now I know what it is called when I did that...ha-ha.
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Can anyone recommend which fund is invest in Thailand?
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QUOTE(jes88 @ Apr 9 2014, 10:09 PM)
Can anyone recommend which fund is invest in Thailand?
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try FSM S'pore....it has I think 4 funds
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what you guys think of Philip Master Equity growth fund under e-UT?
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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Apr 10 2014, 09:22 AM)
what you guys think of Philip Master Equity growth fund under e-UT?
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This fund only recently showed great return... it was a so-so fund previously. The fund manager managed to spot some great buy prior to the local stock-market rally. Hence you see their tremendous upsurge recently.

Personally I would not buy this fund yet, if they showed consistent result for a couple more years, then I'll go in. In the mean time, for local fund, stay with Lee Sook Yee wub.gif fund or Chen Fan Fai's fund.

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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Apr 10 2014, 09:22 AM)
what you guys think of Philip Master Equity growth fund under e-UT?
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just my thought......Buy in consideration yr portfolio diversification and % allocation requirement that are in line with your risk profile.

attached are cut and pasted from....
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/fundview/...cus_Apr2014.pdf

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FSM keeps recommending Russia. This seems insane to me, given the risk of more Putin adventurism and increased sanctions from the rest of the world. Not to mention the moral issues involved.
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FSM keeps recommending Russia. This seems insane to me, given the risk of more Putin adventurism and increased sanctions from the rest of the world. Not to mention the moral issues involved.
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May be insane to U but for those contrarians that "buys fear, sells greed", makes sense.

Case in point - Indonesia & India about 6 mths+/- back when Indonesia crashed >20+%
and India too with capital controls imposed to control capital flight.
Now look at them IF one bought in AFTER the crash with fear lingering around (smell of dead bodies & blood spilled) and lots of "experts" saying their GDP vs debt can't hold will kaboom, etc. etc.

Note - "experts" predict only not actual fact. Actual fact known at that time = crashed a heckuva lot.

Just a thought. notworthy.gif

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-stoc...UZTJHIAfe.TmYlQ
http://www.cleareyesinvesting.com/2014/04/...-stupid-as.html
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 10 2014, 09:51 AM)
This fund only recently showed great return... it was a so-so fund previously. The fund manager managed to spot some great buy prior to the local stock-market rally. Hence you see their tremendous upsurge recently.

Personally I would not buy this fund yet, if they showed consistent result for a couple more years, then I'll go in. In the mean time, for local fund, stay with Lee Sook Yee  wub.gif  fund or Chen Fan Fai's fund.

Xuzen
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Thanks 4 the advise... sorry noob Q... who is and what are Lee Sook Yee n Chen Fan Fai funds.... hiw do I find them?
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 10 2014, 10:41 AM)
FSM keeps recommending Russia. This seems insane to me, given the risk of more Putin adventurism and increased sanctions from the rest of the world. Not to mention the moral issues involved.
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moral issues? what moral issues...don't listen too much to CNN and BBC...when it comes to US/West vs Rest of World, they're like Utusan Melayu in Malaysia...lopsided reporting whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 10 2014, 12:43 PM)
moral issues? what moral issues...don't listen too much to CNN and BBC...when it comes to US/West vs Rest of World, they're like Utusan Melayu in Malaysia...lopsided reporting whistling.gif
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Thread derail so I don't want to go into this too much. But I very much believe that Putin is evil and poses an existential threat to the world. Certainly the people of Poland and the Baltic countries (among others) are behaving as if the danger is very real.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 10 2014, 11:05 AM)
May be insane to U but for those contrarians that "buys fear, sells greed", makes sense.

Case in point - Indonesia & India about 6 mths+/- back when Indonesia crashed >20+%
and India too with capital controls imposed to control capital flight.
Now look at them IF one bought in AFTER the crash with fear lingering around (smell of dead bodies & blood spilled) and lots of "experts" saying their GDP vs debt can't hold will kaboom, etc. etc.

Note - "experts" predict only not actual fact. Actual fact known at that time = crashed a heckuva lot.

Just a thought.  notworthy.gif

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-stoc...UZTJHIAfe.TmYlQ
http://www.cleareyesinvesting.com/2014/04/...-stupid-as.html
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Equities Weekly: Russia Rebounds (7 Apr 14)
.......the Russian equity market was the top performing market under our coverage over the week, with the benchmark RTSI index rallying by 4.05%.
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...07-Apr-14--9291
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 10 2014, 12:49 PM)
Thread derail so I don't want to go into this too much. But I very much believe that Putin is evil and poses an existential threat to the world. Certainly the people of Poland and the Baltic countries (among others) are behaving as if the danger is very real.
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moral issues aside...don't mix moral and $$$. nod.gif

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What happened? My off-shore global fund dropped banyak wor....

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Thanks 4 the advise... sorry noob Q... who is and what are Lee Sook Yee n Chen Fan Fai funds.... hiw do I find them?
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Lee Sook Yee is the fund manager of Kenanga Growth Fund whereas Chen Fan Fai is the Chief Investment Officer for Eastspring Investment Berhad (the investment arm of Prudential Insurance).

Mr Chen was from Kenanga i.e., Ms Lee's ex-boss.

Lee & Chen are like the Warren Buffet of M'sian equities.

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This fund only recently showed great return... it was a so-so fund previously. The fund manager managed to spot some great buy prior to the local stock-market rally. Hence you see their tremendous upsurge recently.

Personally I would not buy this fund yet, if they showed consistent result for a couple more years, then I'll go in. In the mean time, for local fund, stay with Lee Sook Yee  wub.gif  fund or Chen Fan Fai's fund.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 10 2014, 02:55 PM)
Lee Sook Yee is the fund manager of Kenanga Growth Fund whereas Chen Fan Fai is the Chief Investment Officer for Eastspring Investment Berhad (the investment arm of Prudential Insurance).

Mr Chen was from Kenanga i.e., Ms Lee's ex-boss.

Lee & Chen are like the Warren Buffet of M'sian equities.

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Hello, Ms Lee came on board AFTER Mr Chen left tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Apr 10 2014, 02:55 PM)
Lee Sook Yee is the fund manager of Kenanga Growth Fund whereas Chen Fan Fai is the Chief Investment Officer for Eastspring Investment Berhad (the investment arm of Prudential Insurance).

Mr Chen was from Kenanga i.e., Ms Lee's ex-boss.

Lee & Chen are like the Warren Buffet of M'sian equities.

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Ok so a couple of questions. ..
Within kenanga and eastsprings,what are the better funds to invest in?
How long have they been with eastsprings n kenanga? Cos if they leave then the fund price will get pressured heavily?
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Ok so a couple of questions. ..
Within kenanga and eastsprings,what are the better funds to invest in?
buy both lor....if your portfolio allocation allows
How long  have they been with eastsprings n kenanga?
Mr Chen joined EI on Feb 2013 and Ms Lee joined Kenanga in March 2013
Cos if they leave then the fund price will get pressured heavily?
how? i thought fund price is determined by the stock prices that are being held by the fund.
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FSM keeps recommending Russia. This seems insane to me, given the risk of more Putin adventurism and increased sanctions from the rest of the world. Not to mention the moral issues involved.
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I'm a contrarian but don't think I fancy Putin. Or his homeland market.... Certainly a dangerous character capable to stroke a world war 3 potential catalyst...
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Agree in a sense.

Russian equities have been trading at a HUGE discount for a long time already. Means, investing community ain't buying.
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May be insane to U but for those contrarians that "buys fear, sells greed", makes sense.

Case in point - Indonesia & India about 6 mths+/- back when Indonesia crashed >20+%
and India too with capital controls imposed to control capital flight.
Now look at them IF one bought in AFTER the crash with fear lingering around (smell of dead bodies & blood spilled) and lots of "experts" saying their GDP vs debt can't hold will kaboom, etc. etc.

Note - "experts" predict only not actual fact. Actual fact known at that time = crashed a heckuva lot.

Just a thought.  notworthy.gif

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Russia ... close to 3% in just over a month

Looking to top up Indonesia soon, exchange rate favourable also.
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Actually Indonesia has been one of my best performers!
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Thanks.... within eastspring itself what are the good funds to buy in?
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Eastspring Income Equity (Large cap dividend fund) for the stable growth with minimal volatility.

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Planning to top up today. Foresee another bleeding day. Anyone?
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what fund? Asia not that bad today
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Not planning to do any today?
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u "qualified" meh? sweat.gif
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GEYF. If today fall, DJIA will be below 16k mark.

Not planning to do any today?
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nice.. good for long term ? time to stock up smile.gif and buy
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nice.. good for long term ? time to stock up smile.gif and buy
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Am I the only one feeling that under RHB-OSK, Global Equity Yield Fund have gone worse compared to when it's under OSK-UOB? hmm.gif
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But my other global fund also dropped...

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Am I the only one feeling that under RHB-OSK, Global Equity Yield Fund have gone worse compared to when it's under OSK-UOB? hmm.gif
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Am I the only one feeling that under RHB-OSK, Global Equity Yield Fund have gone worse compared to when it's under OSK-UOB? hmm.gif
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hello frens, there is this eunittrust offering ZERO fees.

https://www.eunittrust.com.my/

Any body has any experience with that entity?
How safe is that compared to our FSM in here?

Thanks
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hello frens, there is this eunittrust offering ZERO fees.

https://www.eunittrust.com.my/

Any body has any experience with that entity?
How safe is that compared to our FSM in here?

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a competitior of FSM.

but the website doesn't look user friendly... sweat.gif
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eUT more safer than FSM.

u see their background
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Competition can only benefit us investors in bringing down cost fees... smile.gif
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That's the reason why I dumped my Kidsave after investing in this fund for years. The new CIO sucks

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 11 2014, 08:38 PM)
Am I the only one feeling that under RHB-OSK, Global Equity Yield Fund have gone worse compared to when it's under OSK-UOB? hmm.gif
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Ignore the troll.

eunittrust is under Phillip Capital
FSM is under OSK which means its under RHB

Anyone can tell who is bigger.

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Me too, can't help but just open another account in eunittrust because of the promotion, but the layout/ functionality of eunittrust webpage is really a level lower than fsm. And there is no apps yet for iPhone, can't find.
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Me too, can't help but just open another account in eunittrust because of the promotion, but the layout/ functionality of eunittrust webpage is really a level lower than fsm. And there is no apps yet for iPhone, can't find.
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That is why it is safer than fsm. Not so canggih and hi tech
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That is why it is safer than fsm. Not so canggih and hi tech
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Aiyyoooo both still the platform only... end state reached at fund houses... Just interesting with discount offered... Hahahaha
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yes, I tried to do the BUY transaction like normal FSM purchase until the last step where I am required to reenter my password.....up to that stage...all is like normal buy transaction process....except there are a few pop up about the pre requirement and prospectus and risk info....

guess FSM have no way to "see" the actual "net worth" or "net income"' requirement...

why don't some of you just try it out....just key in the minimum buy as 10,000
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Aiyyoooo both still the platform only... end state reached at fund houses... Just interesting with discount offered... Hahahaha
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I am starting my PRS account soon. To take advantage of the one off government incentive of RM500, that'll be given once you have 1k inside the PRS account.
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I tried to do FPX transfer, saw the deduction in my bank account, but havent receive any FPX transfer-success email and FSM also shows haven't receive it yet.

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I tried to do FPX transfer, saw the deduction in my bank account, but havent receive any FPX transfer-success email and FSM also shows haven't receive it yet.

Have anyone experienced this before? sweat.gif
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I tried to do FPX transfer, saw the deduction in my bank account, but havent receive any FPX transfer-success email and FSM also shows haven't receive it yet.

Have anyone experienced this before? sweat.gif
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They are on weekend offday... it will process the transaction after 9 am tomolo.
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Going to top up Aberdeen world equity tomorrow..
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Because global equity has been plummeted because of the recent technology sell off at US stock exchange and other macro economy factors such as Russia-Ukraine issues and China slowdown concern.
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hmm but my global funds all macam tak drop.. still maintain.. je..
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hmm but my global funds all macam tak drop.. still maintain.. je..
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I read that US equity has erased this year gain.

I believe Aberdeen World Equity Fund won't affect much because their strategy doesn't follow mainstream or benchmark.

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The S&P 500 fell 2.6 percent to 1,815.69 for the week, as the benchmark gauge erased its gains for the year. The Nasdaq Composite (CCMP) sank 3.1 percent to 3,999.73 and the Russell 2000 Index lost 3.6 percent to 1,111.44. All three measures had the biggest retreat since June 2012. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 385.96 points, or 2.4 percent, to 16,026.75, its lowest level since February.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/s...on-concern.html


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I have EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS EQUITY INCOME FUND and its already hitting 13% gain based on FSM website.....Since I am heavy on Malaysia portfolio I taught of switching it to EI GEM as I am short of EM funds....any comments

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These are my allocations currently

ASIA 23.59%
MALAYSIA 28.89%
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I tried to do FPX transfer, saw the deduction in my bank account, but havent receive any FPX transfer-success email and FSM also shows haven't receive it yet.

Have anyone experienced this before? sweat.gif
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Me too, can't help but just open another account in eunittrust because of the promotion, but the layout/ functionality of eunittrust webpage is really a level lower than fsm. And there is no apps yet for iPhone, can't find.
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Does it support FPX? going to be hard to top up if it doesn't.

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I read that US equity has erased this year gain.

I believe Aberdeen World Equity Fund won't affect much because their strategy doesn't follow mainstream or benchmark.
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oh i see, funny thing is my p.mutual global select also tak drop..


QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 13 2014, 07:39 PM)
I have EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS EQUITY INCOME FUND and its already hitting 13% gain based on FSM website.....Since I am heavy on Malaysia portfolio I taught of switching it to EI GEM as I am short of EM funds....any comments

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ASIA            23.59%
MALAYSIA    28.89%
DEVELOPED  32.11%
EMERGING      8.33%
OTHERS      3.80%
CASH      3.29%
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is it me or is the attached image showing the number of funds your holding ? seems kinda alot

QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 13 2014, 07:45 PM)
takes a while.. a bit scary. but FPX works for me.
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Does it support FPX? going to be hard to top up if it doesn't.
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fpx works.. just that.. fsm won't do anything on weekend
if u get the fpx email means its good.. just need fsm to run the processing on their end on working days..(mon - fri) hols' excluded


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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Apr 13 2014, 08:19 PM)
oh i see, funny thing is my p.mutual global select also tak drop..
is it me or is the attached image showing the number of funds your holding ? seems kinda alot
fpx works.. just that.. fsm won't do anything on weekend
if u get the fpx email means its good.. just need fsm to run the processing on their end on working days..(mon - fri) hols' excluded
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Does eunittrust support FPX do you think?

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I read that US equity has erased this year gain.

I believe Aberdeen World Equity Fund won't affect much because their strategy doesn't follow mainstream or benchmark.
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GEYF YTD gain has been erased off as well..
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is it me or is the attached image showing the number of funds your holding ? seems kinda alot
yea bought it when just started....then just left it ...waiting to minimize the funds once gain a little more profit...
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oh i see, funny thing is my p.mutual global select also tak drop..
is it me or is the attached image showing the number of funds your holding ? seems kinda alot
fpx works.. just that.. fsm won't do anything on weekend
if u get the fpx email means its good.. just need fsm to run the processing on their end on working days..(mon - fri) hols' excluded
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Hello Mnet, i dont mind opening one account with eUT. Can you please let me know what is the extra benefit we get compared to our FSM here other than the promotion Zero fees now.

Any other hidden charges along the lines? FSM no hidden charges, fees at purchase only, after that no fees.
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Last week just topped up CIMB Global Titans. Should I top up again today? hmm.gif

I still got the 0.5% token.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 14 2014, 09:21 AM)
Last week just topped up CIMB Global Titans. Should I top up again today? hmm.gif

I still got the 0.5% token.
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See today Asia market got drop alot or not first.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 14 2014, 09:01 AM)
See today Asia market got drop alot or not first.
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Yen gains and last Friday US closed in red.


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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 14 2014, 10:02 AM)
Yen gains and last Friday US closed in red.
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Ya US and EU drop on friday, that is why I top up Aberdeen today. It is my monthly topup for my UT, so take this opportunity to top up.


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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 14 2014, 12:09 AM)
Hello Mnet, i dont mind opening one account with eUT. Can you  please let me know what is the extra benefit we get compared to our FSM here other than the promotion Zero fees now.

Any other hidden charges along the lines? FSM no hidden charges, fees at purchase only, after that no fees.
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eunittrust ui is not as user friendly as fundsupermart and if you use FPX, they charge you rm0.70 per transaction (if i remember correctly), the benefit is that there are some funds that are not available from FSM but available through eunit trust like their own Phillip Master Equity Growth Fund and others. do note that some of their funds are not to be purchase online, you need to check on their website.

but i do like that they have promo where they lower their SC, overall SC is same as fundsupermart. the rest of the thing offered also similar. they do not have any referral program yet

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 14 2014, 09:07 AM)
Ya US and EU drop on friday, that is why I top up Aberdeen today. It is my monthly topup for my UT, so take this opportunity to top up.
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I'm still considering between:

1. Topping up CIMB Global Titan OR
2. Buy RHB-OSK GEYF
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QUOTE(repusez @ Apr 14 2014, 10:12 AM)
eunittrust ui is not as user friendly as fundsupermart and if you use FPX, they charge you rm0.70 per transaction (if i remember correctly), the benefit is that there are some funds that are not available from FSM but available through eunit trust like their own Phillip Master Equity Growth Fund and others. do note that some of their funds are not to be purchase online, you need to check on their website.

but i do like that they have promo where they lower their SC, overall SC is same as fundsupermart. the rest of the thing offered also similar. they do not have any referral program yet
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Customer service response fast? Got live chat?
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no live chat ,but email response is quite fast. i tried it because of their fund promo with 1% sc last year, but they have promo as frequent as fundsupermart. let's not talk about it here as this thread is about FSM
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I have EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS EQUITY INCOME FUND and its already hitting 13% gain based on FSM website.....Since I am heavy on Malaysia portfolio I taught of switching it to EI GEM as I am short of EM funds....any comments

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ASIA            23.59%
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DEVELOPED  32.11%
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OTHERS      3.80%
CASH      3.29%
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hi guys,

for the cash management fund.. the actual % of interest u get per annum is 3% exactly?

or is it 2.6% after minus 0.4% annual charge? don't quite get it from the FAQ.
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hi guys,

for the cash management fund.. the actual % of interest u get per annum is 3% exactly?

or is it 2.6% after minus 0.4% annual charge? don't quite get it from the FAQ.
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0.4% is the annual management fee? If yes, then it has been deducted from NAV on daily basis.
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ok thanks

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ok so does that mean we are gettin 3% nett interest per annum when we allocate our money into the cash management fund?
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Btter thn Sg.
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HSAO is now entering Northern asia....

latest hwang's factsheets....as at 31 Mar
click part 3
http://www.hwangim.com/fund-managers-views/fundamentals

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 15 2014, 10:36 PM)
HSAO is now entering Northern asia....

latest hwang's factsheets....as at 31 Mar
click part 3
http://www.hwangim.com/fund-managers-views/fundamentals
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Good info! North Asia is "cheaper".. Thanks for doing the homework.. tongue.gif
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Good info! North Asia is "cheaper".. Thanks for doing the homework.. tongue.gif
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monthly homework...updating % of allocation...HSAO still NOT moving leh.... yawn.gif
HSAQ started to gallop.
global titan...bleeding ...2 weeks 5% down. doh.gif

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 15 2014, 10:52 PM)
monthly homework...updating % of allocation...HSAO still NOT moving leh....  yawn.gif
HSAQ started to gallop.
global titan...bleeding ...2 weeks 5% down.  doh.gif
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Didnt really got time to track one by one.. but in total for me these 3 days drop 3.5%.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 15 2014, 09:36 PM)
HSAO is now entering Northern asia....

latest hwang's factsheets....as at 31 Mar
click part 3
http://www.hwangim.com/fund-managers-views/fundamentals
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why still bother? switch out la! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 15 2014, 09:52 PM)
monthly homework...updating % of allocation...HSAO still NOT moving leh....  yawn.gif
HSAQ started to gallop.
global titan...bleeding ...2 weeks 5% down.  doh.gif
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Switch, switch, switch...
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 15 2014, 11:11 PM)
why still bother? switch out la! tongue.gif
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hmm.gif I personally feel that they made the "Right" choice of going into Northern Asia.
I needed coverage in Asia X Jpn.....both in small and big caps. heavier on small caps thru HSAQ
will keep it till end of the yr to see where it goes.....
(still "Gambling" on Asia X Jpn to be the wub.gif of the global investors... brows.gif )

not only HSAO in my portfolio are NOT moving.....
all my 3 dividends funds (2 local focused & 1 Asia exposure) which is abt 15% of my portfolio are for the past few months moving toooo slow.

well at least,...it moves, instead of DIVE, DIVE, DIVE ......like the submarine rolleyes.gif
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wah.. Uncle Looi, you wake up so early wan ar.. go for morning walk is it? tongue.gif
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wah.. Uncle Looi, you wake up so early wan ar.. go for morning walk is it? tongue.gif
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or...just came home...from... brows.gif
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or...just came home...from... brows.gif
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Aiseh.. my EPF can invest again already. Seems "timing" not so right.. though I know this EPF thingy is long term.. tongue.gif
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Europe and US has been up alot yesterday..
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Europe and US has been up alot yesterday..
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hmm.gif not sure i did the right thing.....
maybe it was JUST too early to see the bigger pictures or results

portfolio allocation fixed since early January....
the results....i think is quite resilient....see the MOM and the happenings in the mkts
hmm.gif but is it too stable or too diversified for its own good?...see the ROI and the YTD
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 17 2014, 09:41 AM)
hmm.gif  not sure i did the right thing.....
maybe it was JUST too early to see the bigger pictures or results

portfolio allocation fixed since early January....
the results....i think is quite resilient....see the MOM and the happenings in the mkts
hmm.gif  but is it too stable or too diversified for its own good?...see the ROI and the YTD
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advise please  notworthy.gif
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2. OSK-UOB KidSave
3. Hwang Select Income
4. Hwang Select Asia Ex Japan Quantum

I'm thinking to sell KAF Global, then buy in another fund during market crash. Looking at RGEY. What do you guys think?
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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Apr 17 2014, 12:19 PM)
Funds currently in my portfolio
1. KAF Global Equities
2. OSK-UOB KidSave
3. Hwang Select Income
4. Hwang Select Asia Ex Japan Quantum

I'm thinking to sell KAF Global, then buy in another fund during market crash. Looking at RGEY. What do you guys think?
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hmm.gif why shift from 1 global to another global?
just curious? mind to share?
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hmm.gif why shift from 1 global to another global?
just curious? mind to share?
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uncle looi, me rookie leh
dont know what to say.
I just tot KAF global not performing so well as compared to other Global fund.
im open to any type of fund though,
current armors dont allow me to have complete exposure to every market blush.gif

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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Apr 17 2014, 12:37 PM)
uncle looi, me rookie leh
dont know what to say.
I just tot KAF global not performing so well as compared to other Global fund. 
im open to any type of fund though,
current armors dont allow me to have complete exposure to every market  blush.gif
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/stop-sabo...ents-2014-04-14

Be prepared to live with some bad returns — for a time

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The tale is hardly new. Investors buy a fund after a period of good performance, waiting for the fund to prove something before adding it to their portfolio. But when the market turns and the fund’s asset category cools — or when today’s hot manager regresses toward the average after a period of oversized results — investors bail out, and look for another fund to buy, typically choosing again something that’s been hot lately.

It’s more that investors should assume that whenever they decide to buy a fund, they will have lousy timing on it, at least for the short term, and they should be prepared to live with that.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 17 2014, 12:43 PM)
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/stop-sabo...ents-2014-04-14

Be prepared to live with some bad returns — for a time
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well yeah. just on considering stage

good read. thanks drunk accountant. haha
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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Apr 17 2014, 12:50 PM)
well yeah. just on considering stage

good read. thanks drunk accountant. haha
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Ask those of us who invested in Pacific Global Stars Fund.

Before most of us invested in it, it used to be a star (that was downturn time, PGSF did well bcos the Fund Manager raised cash position at the right timing).

Then we jump in...boom time esp for Developed Markets. PGSF lagged severely because it underweighted Developed Markets ("DM").

Then there was a period when we all cursed and swore at it.

Now I believe most of us made (small) money with it and glad that we held on, if we had switched to the performing DM-overweight funds when PGSF lagged, we could have ended up worse.

DM has been solid lately, while Asia ex Japan kept see sawing sideways. When Asia picks up pace, PGSF will be a star again.

P.S. - I'm most clear-headed when I'm drunk. LOL

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 17 2014, 12:52 PM)
Ask those of us who invested in Pacific Global Stars Fund.

Before most of us invested in it, it used to be a star (that was downturn time, PGSF did well bcos the Fund Manager raised cash position at the right timing).

Then we jump in...boom time esp for Developed Markets. PGSF lagged severely because it underweighted Developed Markets ("DM").

Then there was a period when we all cursed and swore at it.

Now I believe most of us made (small) money with it and glad that we held on, if we had switched to the performing DM-overweight funds when PGSF lagged, we could have ended up worse.

DM has been solid lately, while Asia ex Japan kept see sawing sideways. When Asia picks up pace, PGSF will be a star again.
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from cursing to topping up PGSF. I saw them. sweat.gif

human greedy nature. brows.gif All funds are already green, in fact KAF has most 'green' in my portfolio.

AND i don't know how its like for this coming market crash. Totally new to investment,never experience any.
I only remembered *2002 was terrible that my parents took my pocket money savings to pay off the losses. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Apr 17 2014, 01:02 PM)
occasionally silent reader
from cursing to topping up PGSF. I saw them.  sweat.gif

human greedy nature.  brows.gif  All funds are already green, in fact KAF has most 'green' in my portfolio.

AND i don't know how its like for this coming market crash. Totally new to investment,never experience any.
I only remembered 1997 was terrible that my parents took my pocket money savings to pay off the lossesshakehead.gif
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Must be investing with margin account.

NEVER invest with borrowed money, my opinion.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 17 2014, 01:12 PM)
Must be investing with margin account.

NEVER invest with borrowed money, my opinion.
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Quantitative expert-san Pinky - NEVER ever ar?

What if i can get 4.99%pa loan 3 years tenure (Citibank cash on call heheh),
AND my flexi mortgage is 4.4%pa (thus while waiting to use loan $ / opportunity, i don't lose much)
AND my trading /investing vehicle can near guarantee hit >= 8%pa when i execute (may have to hold >1yr though)
AND my debt/equity ratio is less than 20% including the new loan (and including all debts/mortgages)
AND most importantly, my emergency buffer can more than cover the monthly payments IF any "black swan" happens...

Safe enough, right?
heheh - just checking another opinion for my er.. bright idea / stupidity done notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 17 2014, 01:21 PM)
Quantitative expert-san Pinky - NEVER ever ar?

What if i can get 4.99%pa loan 3 years tenure (Citibank cash on call heheh),
AND my flexi mortgage is 4.4%pa (thus while waiting to use loan $ / opportunity, i don't lose much)
AND my trading  /investing vehicle can near guarantee hit >= 8%pa when i execute (may have to hold >1yr though)
AND my debt/equity ratio is less than 20% including the new loan (and including all debts/mortgages)
AND most importantly, my emergency buffer can more than cover the monthly payments IF any "black swan" happens...

Safe enough, right?
heheh - just checking another opinion for my er.. bright idea / stupidity done  notworthy.gif
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Oops, here comes Mr Direct Access rolleyes.gif

Yeah if you're quite sure and/or your investment is quite secure, by all means go leveraged.

E.g. housing loan 4% EFFECTIVE RATE, REIT dividend yield 6% icon_idea.gif

But if leverage to gamble trade highly speculative counters...hell no sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 17 2014, 01:24 PM)
Oops, here comes Mr Direct Access rolleyes.gif

Yeah if you're quite sure and/or your investment is quite secure, by all means go leveraged.

E.g. housing loan 4% EFFECTIVE RATE, REIT dividend yield 6% icon_idea.gif

But if leverage to gamble trade highly speculative counters...hell no sweat.gif
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Trading options (selling options to get premiums) leh? tongue.gif
eg.
speculative option selling based on standard deviation / probabilities of strike price sold being hit within a specific timeline
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out of 3 possible movements (no move much, move kakaload against me, move kakaload for me), can win 2 (no move much, move as planned)

eh - direct access best lar, dance like snake then try try no fun.
yoda says do, or do not. there is no try brows.gif
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Trading options (selling options to get premiums) leh? tongue.gif
eg.
speculative option selling based on standard deviation / probabilities of strike price sold being hit within a specific timeline
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out of 3 possible movements (no move much, move kakaload against me, move kakaload for me), can win 2 (no move much, move as planned)

eh - direct access best lar, dance like snake then try try no fun.
yoda says do, or do not. there is no try  brows.gif
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I totally cannot brain a word being written there rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(laith @ Apr 17 2014, 03:18 PM)
I was being introduced Pacific Dana Aman & Hwang Aiiman Growth by my banker. According to banker, the return at least is higher than the last year EPF dividend per annum. Any thoughts on this, sifus?
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hmm.gif something of almost similar......
just be warned...past performance may not means future performance

Most Consistent EPF-Approved Funds...February 19, 2014

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4331
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QUOTE(laith @ Apr 17 2014, 04:47 PM)
So should i go for the 8 equity funds from the link instead of the two that i mentioned earlier?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Apr 17 2014, 02:02 PM)
occasionally silent reader
from cursing to topping up PGSF. I saw them.  sweat.gif

human greedy nature.  brows.gif  All funds are already green, in fact KAF has most 'green' in my portfolio.

AND i don't know how its like for this coming market crash. Totally new to investment,never experience any.
I only remembered *2002 was terrible that my parents took my pocket money savings to pay off the losses.  shakehead.gif
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2001-2002 is the period WHR the dot.com company bu bble crash in the US right?
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2001-2002 is the period WHR the dot.com company bu bble crash in the US right?
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I can't remember the exact year,but it's around there.
back then, I was only in primary school, definitely not knowing what caused the crash. sweat.gif

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Market Crashes: The Dotcom Crash
When: March 11, 2000 to October 9, 2002
Percentage Lost From Peak to Bottom: The Nasdaq Composite lost 78% of its value as it fell from 5046.86 to 1114.11.
http://www.investopedia.com/features/crashes/crashes8.asp


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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 17 2014, 10:55 PM)
Market Crashes: The Dotcom Crash
When: March 11, 2000 to October 9, 2002
Percentage Lost From Peak to Bottom: The Nasdaq Composite lost 78% of its value as it fell from 5046.86 to 1114.11.
http://www.investopedia.com/features/crashes/crashes8.asp
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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Apr 17 2014, 01:02 PM)
occasionally silent reader
from cursing to topping up PGSF. I saw them.  sweat.gif

human greedy nature.  brows.gif  All funds are already green, in fact KAF has most 'green' in my portfolio.

AND i don't know how its like for this coming market crash. Totally new to investment,never experience any.
I only remembered *2002 was terrible that my parents took my pocket money savings to pay off the losses.  shakehead.gif
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From cursing PGSF to HSAO (Hwang Select Asia ex Japan Opportunity) tongue.gif
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From cursing PGSF to HSAO (Hwang Select Asia ex Japan Opportunity) tongue.gif
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Trading options (selling options to get premiums) leh? tongue.gif
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speculative option selling based on standard deviation / probabilities of strike price sold being hit within a specific timeline
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out of 3 possible movements (no move much, move kakaload against me, move kakaload for me), can win 2 (no move much, move as planned)

eh - direct access best lar, dance like snake then try try no fun.
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Apr 18 2014, 02:13 PM)
for me writing options is like picking pennies in front of steamroller. Some are good at it though. I would rather go with long call/put.
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i like "steam rollers" as long as i know their max speed and standard deviations tongue.gif

if not.. eee.. scary & not profitable in long term sweat.gif
btw, i've already factored in losses and it still makes sense long run. only worry is i got the % laugh.gif
oh well, it's just using my "crazy $" account.

oo - back to FSM.
eh - anyone saw that "reverse 2013" thing?
ie. most asset classes/sub-classes that were dogs in 2013, made good $ so far in 2014 (Vs. those that did well in 2014).
eg. frontier market, gold, emerging market
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the % we saw is referring to annualized return or accumulative return?

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“What’s Your View on the Market?”

But, my answer’s always the same: “I honestly don’t know. And frankly, I couldn’t care less.”
“The reasons are two-fold. First, I don’t think there’s hardly anyone who can consistently be correct with general market movements. Second, I’m an investor in individual companies, and hence would be a lot more interested in their corporate future as opposed to where the market will be.”

Even if you really do develop a view on where the market might be heading next, never lose sight of what’s truly important when it comes to investing – the eventual development of a company’s business and the price you’ve paid to be a partial owner of that company...... hmm.gif well, isn't that is the job of the FM?...

http://www.fool.sg/2014/04/16/whats-your-view-on-the-market/

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 17 2014, 05:51 PM)
hmm.gif for me...i would go for Kenanga growth fund....the rest is up to you...
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just a quick question......do we need to do tax filing for fsm unit trust??
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guys, in regards to the cash management fund, is it safe for me to say that the interest it generates is better than few months FD of Maybank?

Plus your funds are not locked-down.

am i right on this account?
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guys, in regards to the cash management fund, is it safe for me to say that the interest it generates is better than few months FD of Maybank?

Plus your funds are not locked-down.

am i right on this account?
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QUOTE(liette` @ Apr 20 2014, 08:42 PM)
guys, in regards to the cash management fund, is it safe for me to say that the interest it generates is better than few months FD of Maybank?
hmm.gif I think at times, at certain financial institutions...it rates is a bit "better".....just abit better + PIDM protected too.

Plus your funds are not locked-down.
yes.

am i right on this account?
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right now the net interest rate for CMF is 3.045%. definitely great! and the money is credited daily. awesome.
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QUOTE(liette` @ Apr 21 2014, 12:01 AM)
right now the net interest rate for CMF is 3.045%. definitely great! and the money is credited daily. awesome.
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0.045% p.a is insignificant. I believe this rate is somehow tied to the money market rate.
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Switched some from AmDynamite Bond to EI GEMF, Pacific GSF and OSK-UOB GEYF. FI 40:60 EQ now bruce.gif
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Switched some from AmDynamite Bond to EI GEMF, Pacific GSF and OSK-UOB GEYF. FI 40:60 EQ now bruce.gif
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How much you left in AmDynamite Bond?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 21 2014, 08:14 AM)
How much you left in AmDynamite Bond?
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22.5%
17.5% in OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond

Both IRR 3%++ now...don't expect any improvement anytime soon doh.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 21 2014, 09:38 AM)
22.5%
17.5% in OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond

Both IRR 3%++ now...don't expect any improvement anytime soon doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 21 2014, 08:44 AM)
I thought you will take the cash from this sale to trade in stocks..  smile.gif
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Plus, the disposed value not even enough to buy one batch of stocks tongue.gif

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i think better read this article "Tax Filing For Unit Trust Dividends" , there are some unit trust dividend that has tax credits where you can claim back from the tax dept.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3246

anyone still heavy on the "ponzi" HSAQ ?

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QUOTE(repusez @ Apr 21 2014, 10:16 AM)
i think better read this article, there are some unit trust dividend that has tax credits where you can claim back from the tax dept.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3246
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2013 is the last year for S108 dividends.

Most companies I see already go for single-tier tax-free dividends.

Unless your holdings are significant enough, I don't see the point.
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havent been following up on AmAsia Pacific REIT. Any idea why is the fund not for sales now?
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Apr 21 2014, 09:11 PM)
havent been following up on AmAsia Pacific REIT. Any idea why is the fund not for sales now?
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got this from FSM fund info...dun really understand what it means....

"The Resolution(s) for the Unit Holders meeting held on 29 January 2014, was not successfully passed due to insufficient quorum. The cessation of sales will remain until further notice from AmInvest."

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYAMAPR
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yah saw this statement as well. what mandates AmInvest want to change to?


QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 21 2014, 09:34 PM)
got this from FSM fund info...dun really understand what it means....

"The Resolution(s) for the Unit Holders meeting held on 29 January 2014, was not successfully passed due to insufficient quorum. The cessation of sales will remain until further notice from AmInvest."

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYAMAPR
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Because it wanted to create different asset classes in different foreign currency denomination and that resolution failed to obtain enough quorum for implementation.
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QUOTE(repusez @ Apr 21 2014, 11:16 AM)
i think better read this article "Tax Filing For Unit Trust Dividends" , there are some unit trust dividend that has tax credits where you can claim back from the tax dept.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3246

anyone still heavy on the "ponzi" HSAQ ?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 21 2014, 01:36 PM)
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sweat.gif after holding them for 12 months.....
Kidsave still - 0.24%
HS infrastructure still -2.56%
HSAQ (in FSM) still - 0.84%
(proofed that..."Past performance is not an indication of future performance...ha-ha)

today SOLD/switch them all
to GEY, Emerging Opp, AGE

with that, now is
40% in M'sia
19.5% in US, UK, Eu
16% North Asia
11% Asean X M'sia

when the heart still calm....thinking of shifting some HSBal to HSelJapan to up 2% of North asia

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 22 2014, 11:03 AM)
sweat.gif  after holding them for 12 months.....
Kidsave still - 0.24%
HS infrastructure still -2.56%
HSAQ (in FSM) still - 0.84%
(proofed that..."Past performance is not an indication of future performance...ha-ha)

today SOLD/switch them all
to GEY, Emerging Opp, AGE

with that, now is
40% in M'sia
19.5% in US, UK, Eu
16% North Asia
11% Asean X M'sia

when the heart still calm....thinking of shifting some HSBal to HSelJapan to up 2% of North asia
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Uncle Looi, Switch all to Kenanga Growth Fund brows.gif
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Uncle Looi, Switch all to Kenanga Growth Fund  brows.gif
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will try that next when portfolio performance & compositions still allows
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Usually East Asia and North Asia do not include Japan.

Even Asia benchmark is usually excluding Japan; hence Asia Ex Japan.

Japan is considered part of developed market - G7
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 22 2014, 10:26 AM)
Usually East Asia and North Asia do not include Japan.

Even Asia benchmark is usually excluding Japan; hence Asia Ex Japan.

Japan is considered part of developed market - G7
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noted... notworthy.gif
hmm.gif my data chart was done to have Japan in North Asia....
anyway Japan is now 3% of portfolio....
just add or minus 3% in the required region.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 22 2014, 10:03 AM)
sweat.gif  after holding them for 12 months.....
Kidsave still - 0.24%
HS infrastructure still -2.56%
HSAQ (in FSM) still - 0.84%
(proofed that..."Past performance is not an indication of future performance...ha-ha)

today SOLD/switch them all
to GEY, Emerging Opp, AGE

with that, now is
40% in M'sia
19.5% in US, UK, Eu
16% North Asia
11% Asean X M'sia

when the heart still calm....thinking of shifting some HSBal to HSelJapan to up 2% of North asia
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Wait, just to be clear.. You switch out all your HSAQ holdings?
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Wait, just to be clear.. You switch out all your HSAQ holdings?
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nope...only HSAQ in FSM only.
still have 10.6% with Hw
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just bought KAF global and topped up my kenanga and eastspring small cap. eastspring been going up ever since! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 22 2014, 11:03 AM)
just bought KAF global and topped up my kenanga and eastspring small cap. eastspring been going up ever since! biggrin.gif
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Ponzi Quantum performance has always been solid, why switch out? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 22 2014, 11:03 AM)
sweat.gif  after holding them for 12 months.....
Kidsave still - 0.24%
HS infrastructure still -2.56%
HSAQ (in FSM) still - 0.84%
(proofed that..."Past performance is not an indication of future performance...ha-ha)

today SOLD/switch them all
to GEY, Emerging Opp, AGE

with that, now is
40% in M'sia
19.5% in US, UK, Eu
16% North Asia
11% Asean X M'sia

when the heart still calm....thinking of shifting some HSBal to HSelJapan to up 2% of North asia
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Wah.. you like playing stocks only lei..
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Wah.. you like playing stocks only lei..
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Unker Looi is chasing after performance...may end up worse than doing nothing at all sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 22 2014, 01:35 PM)
Ponzi Quantum performance has always been solid, why switch out? hmm.gif
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rebalancing to a more diversified...AGE and GEY
still has 10.6% HSAQ in portfolio
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 22 2014, 02:07 PM)
+100

Unker Looi is chasing after performance...may end up worse than doing nothing at all sweat.gif
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hmm.gif never expected kidsave and Ponzi to be this negative for 12 months....
btw, HSAQ is + 5% since Jan and HSAO is + 1.15% since Jan.
hmm.gif rclxms.gif ...you may be right..."may end up worse than doing nothing at all"
but it was just a small % of the portfolio....

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just some info about the RM 500 PRS Youth incentives

WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE PRS YOUTH INCENTIVE?

For Malaysians only
Aged 20 and above but have yet to reach the age of 31
Accumulate a minimum gross investment amount of RM1,000 in a single PRS fund of a single PRS provider within a calendar year, between 2014 till 2018
Contributions from employers are excluded from this incentive program

I HAVE INVESTED RM1,000 IN PRS BEFORE 2 JANUARY 2014. AM I ELIGIBLE FOR THE RM500 INCENTIVE?

No, you are not eligible as the RM500 incentive is only applicable for individuals who make PRS contributions from 2 January 2014 to 31 December 2018, with a minimum gross investment amount of RM1,000 within a calendar year.

HOW DO I RECEIVE THE RM500 INCENTIVE?

You will receive the RM500 incentive in the form of units of the FIRST PRS fund that reaches the minimum RM1,000 gross investment amount. These units will automatically be credited into your sub-account A.
If you have several PRS funds with a single or multiple PRS providers that reach the minimum RM1,000 gross amount on the same date, the RM500 incentive will be divided equally among these PRS funds.
PPA will credit the RM500 into your PRS fund(s)after the cut-off date of end June and December every year from 2014 to 2018.

IS THE RM500 ELIGIBLE FOR TAX RELIEF?

No, the RM500 incentive is not eligible for tax relief.

CAN I WITHDRAW THE RM500 INCENTIVE?

No as the RM500 incentive will be credited into your sub-account A, which can only be withdrawn when you retire at 55 years old.

to know more.....
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4558
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5 x 500 is 2500 by 2018. Nt bad..
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 23 2014, 02:23 PM)
5 x 500 is 2500 by 2018. Nt bad..
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Hi all,

I am new and just about to create an new account in FSM.

Sifu-sifu, as a beginner, where and what should i start from?

I just did some homework about unit trust only.
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sure boh, did you get it right this way? rclxub.gif
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Plse tel me thn the right calc.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 23 2014, 03:24 PM)
Plse tel me thn the right calc.
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PRS Youth Incentive is an initiative by the government to encourage young individuals to start saving early for retirement. A one-off incentive of RM500 will be contributed by the Government to young individuals between 20-30 years old who accumulate a minimum gross investment amount of RM1,000 within a calendar year. The PRS Youth Incentive is effective for a period of 5 years starting from 2 January 2014 to 31 December 2018.


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QUOTE(Lexter910 @ Apr 23 2014, 02:59 PM)
Hi all,

I am new and just about to create an new account in FSM.

Sifu-sifu, as a beginner, where and what should i start from?

I just did some homework about unit trust only.
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try this.....and its provided links at the bottom of each article

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...d.svdo?PageID=1

and also post #1 of this threads

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try this.....and its provided links at the bottom of each article

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...d.svdo?PageID=1

and also post #1 of this threads
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regarding the PRS Youth.
but how much is 500$ going to worth when I retire,abt 30+ years to go?
ahahaha
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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Apr 23 2014, 04:33 PM)
regarding the PRS Youth.
but how much is 500$ going to worth when I retire,abt 30+ years to go?
ahahaha
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compounding fund growth (possibility) and dividend if any...i think it is quite alot to some people lor....further it is "FREE" from bolehland. thumbup.gif

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Today my UT portfolio is at all time high. Previously my all time high is May last year.


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so the PRS youth incentive is rm500 just once only? i tot is yearly sad.gif BTW for PRS fund, if let say i keep top up 3k per year, should i go for moderate or growth? i am 26 tis year.. plan to fully utilize the reduction in taxable income.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 23 2014, 09:15 PM)
Today my UT portfolio is at all time high. Previously my all time high is May last year.
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ahem ahem.. <playing devil's advocate>
what happened after hitting all time high, say within a month or two? biggrin.gif
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Drop drop, top up top up...
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 23 2014, 10:21 PM)
ahem ahem.. <playing devil's advocate>
what happened after hitting all time high, say within a month or two? biggrin.gif
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Haha.. Will keep being invested and do nothing. Will evaluate to rebalance once a year.


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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 23 2014, 10:18 PM)
so the PRS youth incentive is rm500 just once only? i tot is yearly sad.gif BTW for PRS fund, if let say i keep top up 3k per year, should i go for moderate or growth? i am 26 tis year.. plan to fully utilize the reduction in taxable income.. smile.gif
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Based on you age, i would go for growth. But you need to understand your risk appetite as well.

Since this money can't be "touch" till retirement age. I would always suggest my friend to go for growth if he she is young.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 23 2014, 09:18 PM)
so the PRS youth incentive is rm500 just once only? i tot is yearly sad.gif BTW for PRS fund, if let say i keep top up 3k per year, should i go for moderate or growth? i am 26 tis year.. plan to fully utilize the reduction in taxable income.. smile.gif
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hmm.gif normally most "experts" would say due to the LONG investment horizon...go for growth....
in the end it is up to individual risk appetite.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 23 2014, 09:18 PM)
so the PRS youth incentive is rm500 just once only? i tot is yearly sad.gif BTW for PRS fund, if let say i keep top up 3k per year, should i go for moderate or growth? i am 26 tis year.. plan to fully utilize the reduction in taxable income.. smile.gif
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i went for a mixture of moderate and growth. you can choose to go 50/50 smile.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 23 2014, 09:29 PM)
Drop drop, top up top up...
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 23 2014, 11:00 PM)
i went for a mixture of moderate and growth. you can choose to go 50/50 smile.gif
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my prs 95% growth, 5% equity (test water haha)
weird strategy i guess haha
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Apr 23 2014, 11:28 PM)
my prs 95% growth, 5% equity (test water haha)
weird strategy i guess haha
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hmm? means 100% high risk lo? since growth = high risk, equity also high risk biggrin.gif

for references purposes, my investment in PRS:

CIMB islamic PRS growth = 1.42%
CIMB islamic moderate = 1.33%

invested in Dec 2013.
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hmm, my ut portfolio also all time high right now. you guys recommend to sell them? cuz like u all said, it will drop afterwards.

or keep it still?
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:24 AM)
hmm, my ut portfolio also all time high right now. you guys recommend to sell them? cuz like u all said, it will drop afterwards.

or keep it still?
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hmm.gif what is your purposes of investing in UT in the 1st place?
usually what ever goes up will usually comes down,...but it is just "when", "by how much" and "for how long will it be down"....just do you have the appetite or are you prepared for it in anyway.

answered that, you will then decide whether to keep or throw. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:24 AM)
hmm, my ut portfolio also all time high right now. you guys recommend to sell them? cuz like u all said, it will drop afterwards.

or keep it still?
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Leave market timing to the fund managers, just sit still.

E.g.
U buy at RM100
Went down to RM80 (your so-called "low")
Then back up to RM120 (your so-called "all-time high")
U sell
It went further to RM150
U vmad.gif doh.gif
Then it drop back to RM110
U think...not "low" enough
U wait
Then it fly again to RM170
U mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 24 2014, 11:35 AM)
hmm.gif what is your purposes of investing in UT in the 1st place?
usually what ever goes up will usually comes down,...but it is just "when", "by how much" and "for how long will it be down"....just do you have the appetite or are you prepared for it in anyway.

answered that, you will then decide whether to keep or throw.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2014, 11:39 AM)
Leave market timing to the fund managers, just sit still.

E.g.
U buy at RM100
Went down to RM80 (your so-called "low")
Then back up to RM120 (your so-called "all-time high")
U sell
It went further to RM150
U vmad.gif  doh.gif
Then it drop back to RM110
U think...not "low" enough
U wait
Then it fly again to RM170
U mega_shok.gif
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Great advice! smile.gif
It was for long-term saving. so it's best to let it stand still. but avoid buying lump sum at this point i guess. topup few hundreds still okay.
So dont mind me asking, usually will go up at peak around mid of the year period? and thne drop drop drop till year end isit? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:41 AM)
Great advice! smile.gif
It was for long-term saving. so it's best to let it stand still. but avoid buying lump sum at this point i guess. topup few hundreds still okay.
So dont mind me asking, usually will go up at peak around mid of the year period? and thne drop drop drop till year end isit?  notworthy.gif
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just found tis on the web
it is for the S&P 500
http://www.moneychimp.com/features/monthly_returns.htm
http://education.howthemarketworks.com/tra...ths-for-stocks/
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:41 AM)
Great advice! smile.gif
It was for long-term saving. so it's best to let it stand still. but avoid buying lump sum at this point i guess. topup few hundreds still okay.
So dont mind me asking, usually will go up at peak around mid of the year period? and thne drop drop drop till year end isit?  notworthy.gif
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History may not be a good indicator of the future...

Just keep a constant asset allocation...and rebalance like, every 3-6 months

E.g. bonds 40% equities 60%

If equities went up to 67%, u sell some equity funds and/or u top up your bond funds to bring the % back to your initial plan
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2014, 11:45 AM)
History may not be a good indicator of the future...

Just keep a constant asset allocation...and rebalance like, every 3-6 months

E.g. bonds 40% equities 60%

If equities went up to 67%, u sell some equity funds and/or u top up your bond funds to bring the % back to your initial plan
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okay, now i get what u mean. basically trying to keep 60/40 equity/bond ratio every 3-6 months. if either one goes up or drop, readjust so taht it goes back to 60/40.

thanks alot for the advice smile.gif

btw, what are some of the bonds u recommend for start up?

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:51 AM)
okay, now i get what u mean. basically trying to keep 60/40 equity/bond ratio every 3-6 months. if either one goes up or drop, readjust so taht it goes back to  60/40.

thanks alot for the advice smile.gif

btw, what are some of the bonds u recommend for start up?
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Err...some actually suggested to use FDs and/or RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2 as "bond-substitute", in view of the current environment where central bankers will only raise, not reduce rates. Do some homework on your own, basically when central bankers raise rates, bond funds will be hit. Don't ask me to explain, u a graduate (I presume), go research on your own. wink.gif

If u really want a bond fund, do consider RHB-OSK Income Fund 2.
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:51 AM)
okay, now i get what u mean. basically trying to keep 60/40 equity/bond ratio every 3-6 months. if either one goes up or drop, readjust so taht it goes back to  60/40.

thanks alot for the advice smile.gif

btw, what are some of the bonds u recommend for start up?
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bond asset class can include FDs
if you trust FSM...try reading this latest article....issued 14 Apr 14

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4528
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2014, 12:01 PM)
Err...some actually suggested to use FDs and/or RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2 as "bond-substitute", in view of the current environment where central bankers will only raise, not reduce rates. Do some homework on your own, basically when central bankers raise rates, bond funds will be hit. Don't ask me to explain, u a graduate (I presume), go research on your own. wink.gif

If u really want a bond fund, do consider RHB-OSK Income Fund 2.
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alright, will do my research on that case. thanks again boss! notworthy.gif

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bond asset class can include FDs
if you trust FSM...try reading this latest article....issued 14 Apr 14

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4528
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okie, thanks for the previous 2 links as well. im reading on them. thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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compounding fund growth (possibility) and dividend if any...i think it is quite alot to some people lor....further it is "FREE" from bolehland.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2014, 11:39 AM)
Leave market timing to the fund managers, just sit still.

E.g.
U buy at RM100
Went down to RM80 (your so-called "low")
Then back up to RM120 (your so-called "all-time high")
U sell
It went further to RM150
U vmad.gif  doh.gif
Then it drop back to RM110
U think...not "low" enough
U wait
Then it fly again to RM170
U mega_shok.gif
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explanations coupled with emoji. da best thumbup.gif
my portfolio hitting so called all time high too. haha


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isn't bolehland no money liao? LOL
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isn't bolehland no money liao? LOL
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Our reserve is one of the top in the world wor.. Unless you referring to other things?
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Hmm, FSM now selling wholesale funds from Franklin Templeton but only to qualified investors. Too bad I'm not a qualified investor.
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 24 2014, 05:48 PM)
Hmm, FSM now selling wholesale funds from Franklin Templeton but only to qualified investors. Too bad I'm not a qualified investor.
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What would happen if you're not qualified but declare as qualified? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 24 2014, 05:48 PM)
Hmm, FSM now selling wholesale funds from Franklin Templeton but only to qualified investors. Too bad I'm not a qualified investor.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 23 2014, 11:43 PM)
hmm? means 100% high risk lo? since growth = high risk, equity also high risk  biggrin.gif

for references purposes, my investment in PRS:

CIMB islamic PRS growth = 1.42%
CIMB islamic moderate = 1.33%

invested in Dec 2013.
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mine
CIMB PRS growth (since dec 2013) 1.51%
CIMB PRS asia pacific ex japan equity (since feb 2014) 3.45%

guess its high risk,high return concept after all haha

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 24 2014, 02:51 PM)
Topped up a bit on KGF today, haven't looked at FSM for too long  blush.gif
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Why RHB-OSK Income Fund 2 instead of other bond funds?


QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2014, 12:01 PM)
Err...some actually suggested to use FDs and/or RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2 as "bond-substitute", in view of the current environment where central bankers will only raise, not reduce rates. Do some homework on your own, basically when central bankers raise rates, bond funds will be hit. Don't ask me to explain, u a graduate (I presume), go research on your own. wink.gif

If u really want a bond fund, do consider RHB-OSK Income Fund 2.
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Why RHB-OSK Income Fund 2 instead of other bond funds?
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Low volatility and I like its mandate to invest up to 30% in foreign bonds.
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Sorry, asked this in another thread, seems here's more relevant

I read all of the beginner stuff from Fundsupermart. I got 30k cash for investing right now. I want a relatively safe investing scheme, so from what I read, should I buy 30k worth of unit trust from fixed income group? What does the percentage means from the table?

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tormaincode=All
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isnt it the same as Hwang Select Bond Fund?

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2014, 08:59 PM)
Low volatility and I like its mandate to invest up to 30% in foreign bonds.
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isnt it the same as Hwang Select Bond Fund?
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Hwang Select Bond is not EPF-approved, hence not restricted to 30% foreign. And it's got sales charge. RHB-OSK Income Fund 2 is 0% SC.
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Apr 24 2014, 07:44 PM)
mine
CIMB PRS growth (since dec 2013) 1.51%
CIMB PRS asia pacific ex japan equity (since feb 2014) 3.45%

guess its high risk,high return concept after all haha
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yup, high risk high return tongue.gif

by the way i also got these 2 PRS, forget share.

Hwang PRS Moderate Fund = 3.20%
Hwang AIIMAN PRS Shariah Growth Fund = 5.78%

the Hwang Moderate gets higher return than CIMB Growth thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 24 2014, 09:08 PM)
Sorry, asked this in another thread, seems here's more relevant

I read all of the beginner stuff from Fundsupermart. I got 30k cash for investing right now. I want a relatively safe investing scheme, so from what I read, should I buy 30k worth of unit trust from fixed income group? What does the percentage means from the table?

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tormaincode=All
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Relatively conservative fixed income fund could give a return merely similar or slightly higher than FD; in the range of 3.5 to 4.5%

Moderately aggressive fixed income fund could give a better higher return at the range of 5 to 6%; they will with short to medium term papers with lower credit rating (below triple As).

Balanced fixed income fund will invest a portion of it into equity market; usually up to 30 to 50% of total NAV

Aggressive fixed income fund could give a much higher return up to 8%. They will mix with several instruments in order to meet such high return.

Disclaimer: Above comments are generalization and not specifically refer to any fund in particular
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KGF has been the top selling fund for FSM almost every week.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:03 AM)
Relatively conservative fixed income fund could give a return merely similar or slightly higher than FD; in the range of 3.5 to 4.5%

Moderately aggressive fixed income fund could give a better higher return at the range of 5 to 6%; they will with short to medium term papers with lower credit rating (below triple As).

Balanced fixed income fund will invest a portion of it into equity market; usually up to 30 to 50% of total NAV

Aggressive fixed income fund could give a much higher return up to 8%. They will mix with several instruments in order to meet such high return.

Disclaimer: Above comments are generalization and not specifically refer to any fund in particular
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Thanks for the info David! One more noobie question, how does the UT returns work? Is it sort like every month, there's an evaluation, if there's positive returns, the money are credited to your bank account? What if there's a negative return? Means my UT value drops?
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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 25 2014, 07:32 AM)
Thanks for the info David! One more noobie question, how does the UT returns work? Is it sort like every month, there's an evaluation, if there's positive returns, the money are credited to your bank account? What if there's a negative return? Means my UT value drops?
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The simplest way is to use ROI.

ROI = [Current valuation (Current NAV * Units on hand) - Capital Invested (Average Unit Cost * Units on hand] / Capital Invested

At the beginning, ROI is usually negative because of upfront sales charge imposed.

There's no guideline for portfolio analysis. It's totally up to you. Don't too frequent such as daily or weekly will exhaust you. You can opt for calendar quarter or monthly.

Anything fall beyond ROI (at the service charge threshold) indicates that the fund NAV is dropping due to some reason.
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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 25 2014, 07:32 AM)
Thanks for the info David! One more noobie question, how does the UT returns work? Is it sort like every month, there's an evaluation, if there's positive returns, the money are credited to your bank account? What if there's a negative return? Means my UT value drops?
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Err...UT is not like bank fixed deposits.

U need to do more homework on WHAT IS UNIT TRUST.

I think Post #1 have some links that can help u.

Here:
http://www.fimm.com.my/investor/abc-of-unit-trusts/

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Wow.. how come Hwang AIIMAN Select Income NAV jump from 0.5491 to 0.5741
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Hmm, FSM now selling wholesale funds from Franklin Templeton but only to qualified investors. Too bad I'm not a qualified investor.
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What is wholesale fund and how does it differ from the current ones offered on FSM?



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What is wholesale fund and how does it differ from the current ones offered on FSM?
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Retail = u buy in small quantities

Get the point? rolleyes.gif
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What is wholesale fund and how does it differ from the current ones offered on FSM?
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 25 2014, 08:32 PM)
I see the wholesale fund that FSM offering needs initial investment of 10k.  Subsequent investment of 1K
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er.. i'm AssUMe-ing this relates to Franklin Templeton funds

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QUOTE(Lexter910 @ Apr 24 2014, 03:40 PM)
yklooi,

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I have read the content from "school" in FSM website.

what should i do next?
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got your emergency fund readied?
got surplus funds that your are NOT expected to touch for 3~5 years?
know your expected returns to expect?
know your risk appetite?

still want to go to mutual funds as your investment vehicle?
just a note: there are some other investment vehicles that are more efficient...

if still want mutual funds....try FSM or Eunittrust websites..they have recommended portfolios.....

study them....if you liked them...then go for it.


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er.. RM10K & RM1K? no biggie what - why lar need to be of certain level of income or investable assets?
er.. i'm AssUMe-ing this relates to Franklin Templeton funds
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 25 2014, 01:08 AM)
Yeah, 37% up here, my best performer in FSM portfolio

2nd = Eastspring Indonesia +23%
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It's well-known and prestigious fund house in the world. whistling.gif
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Yeah so are you still topping up on them ?
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Indonesia I haven't, as bought Indonesia US ETF (Annual charge 0.61% vs Eastspring 1.8%)
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 26 2014, 08:10 PM)
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got your emergency fund readied?
got surplus funds that your are NOT expected to touch for 3~5 years?
know your expected returns to expect?
know your risk appetite?

still want to go to mutual funds as your investment vehicle?
just a note: there are some other investment vehicles that are more efficient...

if still want mutual funds....try FSM or Eunittrust websites..they have recommended portfolios.....

study them....if you liked them...then go for it.
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FSM Fund Choice: CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund [May 2014]

Investors should consider allocating part of their portfolio to developed markets for diversification purposes as well as to capture investment returns from key regions which form a significant proportion of the global economy. Due to the various reasons mentioned in this article, we believe the CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund is in a good position to add value to investors’ portfolio.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4579

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2014, 06:51 PM)
FSM Fund Choice: CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund [May 2014]

Investors should consider allocating part of their portfolio to developed markets for diversification purposes as well as to capture investment returns from key regions which form a significant proportion of the global economy. Due to the various reasons mentioned in this article, we believe the CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund  is in a good position to add value to investors’ portfolio.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4579

https://www.facebook.com/fundsupermart.mala...?type=1&theater
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Promotional SC at 1%. Let's make it happens. whistling.gif

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Quarterly Fund reports ---FSM HK
it has some interesting data that shows,
best/worst regions, sectors, single countries

http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/ar...202014_SFed.pdf

buy when there is BLOOD...?
12 months ago,...Indonesia is BAD....now is TOP.
many months ago, gold & precious metal is BAD...now is top too.
now Russia is BAD.....12 months later? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2014, 09:11 PM)
Quarterly Fund reports ---FSM HK
it has some interesting data that shows,
best/worst regions, sectors, single countries

http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/ar...202014_SFed.pdf

buy when there is BLOOD...?
12 months ago,...Indonesia is BAD....now is TOP.
many months ago, gold & precious metal is BAD...now is top too.
now Russia is BAD.....12 months later?  hmm.gif
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Missed the purchase today.
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for there is another always another day.....
Just that "can we SEE" that day at that time?
or we saw it on that day, but hesitated to act.
or we only see it or acted on it "after". rolleyes.gif

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Hi all, please forgive to me ask a such silly question.

What time can we buy/sell fund in fundsupermart.my??
and it will take a day to process right if we using maybank2u



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Hi all, please forgive to me ask a such silly question.

What time can we buy/sell fund in fundsupermart.my??
and it will take a day to process right if we using maybank2u
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Go FSM website and click the LiveHelp smiley at right hand corner of your screen.
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Kenanga OnePRS growth fund feeds into the jaguh kampung Kenanga Growth Fund! How I wish FSM carries this PRS fund...
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Kenanga OnePRS growth fund feeds into the jaguh kampung Kenanga Growth Fund! How I wish FSM carries this PRS fund...
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Promotional SC at 1%. Let's make it happens. whistling.gif
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http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4583
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R u sure eunit trust carrying this as PRS fund?
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For "technical" questions like these, best that u ask FSM directly for a more accurate and professional answer.

Go FSM website and click the LiveHelp smiley at right hand corner of your screen.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 30 2014, 04:49 PM)
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FSM Fund Choice for May 2014, CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund at 1.0% sales charge till 30 May 2014.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4583
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Observing this fund quite sometime... with last week drop and 1% sales charge.... Maybe.... :-)
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Observing this fund quite sometime... with last week drop and 1% sales charge.... Maybe.... :-)
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 30 2014, 06:23 PM)
Dunno.. you can see the PRS fund listed in the PRS fund list on the website smile.gif
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U know what u are right!!! There is a kenanga growth one prs fund and it basically invesrs 70 pct approx in kenanga growth fund and balaance in a kenanga dond or income fund

FSM doesn't have this but eUT has it. Damn didn't know abiut rhe launch late 2013 otherwise would have whacked some to recude taxable income

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Hi everyone who has been using FSM for their UT trading, here's a few questions I'd like to ask before I finally register an account for myself at FSM:

1) Is the platform secure?
2) Do I still entitled to get hard-copy statements for my transaction and regular report of my investment?
3) The discount in service charge is only applicable to first transaction or all future transaction? It seem VERY ATTRACTIVE to have 2% SC as compared to ~5.5% if I buy conventionally from agents
4) Switching of funds within the same fund house in FSM is FREE?

Thanks all and I'd be glad to hear from you guys!
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QUOTE(BATMAN99 @ May 1 2014, 12:26 AM)
Hi everyone who has been using FSM for their UT trading, here's a few questions I'd like to ask before I finally register an account for myself at FSM:

1) Is the platform secure?
2) Do I still entitled to get hard-copy statements for my transaction and regular report of my investment?
3) The discount in service charge is only applicable to first transaction or all future transaction? It seem VERY ATTRACTIVE to have 2% SC as compared to ~5.5% if I buy conventionally from agents
4) Switching of funds within the same fund house in FSM is FREE?

Thanks all and I'd be glad to hear from you guys!
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I can answer no 3... the general 2pct SC is there fir quite a while. But read the details on the website and open ur account only when ur almost ready to buy cos u get a further diacount to that 2 pct for the first 30 days. Ao plan it out and you can whack ur lump sum in the first 30 days at 1 pct SC fir most funds.
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I can answer no 3... the general 2pct SC is there fir quite a while. But read the details on the website and open ur account only when ur almost ready to buy cos u get a further diacount to that 2 pct for the first 30 days. Ao plan it out and you can whack ur lump sum in the first 30 days at 1 pct SC fir most funds.
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U know what u are right!!! There is a kenanga growth one prs fund and it basically invesrs 70 pct approx in kenanga growth fund and balaance in a kenanga dond or income fund

FSM doesn't have this but eUT has it. Damn didn't know abiut rhe launch late 2013 otherwise would have whacked some to recude taxable income
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QUOTE(BATMAN99 @ May 1 2014, 12:26 AM)
Hi everyone who has been using FSM for their UT trading, here's a few questions I'd like to ask before I finally register an account for myself at FSM:

1) Is the platform secure?
2) Do I still entitled to get hard-copy statements for my transaction and regular report of my investment?
3) The discount in service charge is only applicable to first transaction or all future transaction? It seem VERY ATTRACTIVE to have 2% SC as compared to ~5.5% if I buy conventionally from agents
4) Switching of funds within the same fund house in FSM is FREE?

Thanks all and I'd be glad to hear from you guys!
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1)HTTPS, VeriSign verified upon log in
2)No hardcopy, but they e-mail u month-end statements
3)Answered above
4)Depends on the fund house
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QUOTE(BATMAN99 @ May 1 2014, 12:26 AM)
Hi everyone who has been using FSM for their UT trading, here's a few questions I'd like to ask before I finally register an account for myself at FSM:

1) Is the platform secure?
2) Do I still entitled to get hard-copy statements for my transaction and regular report of my investment?
3) The discount in service charge is only applicable to first transaction or all future transaction? It seem VERY ATTRACTIVE to have 2% SC as compared to ~5.5% if I buy conventionally from agents
4) Switching of funds within the same fund house in FSM is FREE?

Thanks all and I'd be glad to hear from you guys!
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hmm.gif I think your answered can be found at the FSM website's popular FAQs
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/introduction.tpl?
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What do you guys think of the CIMB Principal Titans Fund right now. I already have some and it's still significantly in the red. Seems extremely volatile. At one point in April, it was more than negative 5%. But I'm already sitting on too much cash and feel like buying something.
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u can buy that it will up soon

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What do you guys think of the CIMB Principal Titans Fund right now. I already have some and it's still significantly in the red. Seems extremely volatile. At one point in April, it was more than negative 5%. But I'm already sitting on too much cash and feel like buying something.
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Cimb Principal GTF you already got some....is the allocation in your portfolio enough?
what region/countries in your portfolio requires allocation/top up?
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Volatile funds are even better for dollar cost averaging icon_rolleyes.gif

Steady funds, u just dump in lump sum and put it in freezer
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Steady funds, u just dump in lump sum and put it in freezer
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Global titan fund? Too big allocation on Europe...n u know what's happening in Europe right now with crazy taxes and Putin's shenanigans.... Not a safe fund for me...
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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 1 2014, 12:58 PM)
True but long term I think steady funds will beat volatile funds.. say you want to retire at 60 or whatever... then 60 you have to take out.. but at 60 your fund is bottoming.. have to postpone retirement lol tongue.gif
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Labour day we must work harder n smarter. Best day to get work done when most people are out lepaking
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Here is my funds' performance as end of April (up to 29/4/14 only)

FSM1 (self)
Overall IRR - 8.06%
Best fund - Kenanga Growth Fund - IRR 25.65%, ROI 13.71%
Worst fund - KAF Global Equities - IRR -2.21%, ROI -0.61%

FSM2 (Wife)
Overall IRR - 7.04%
Best fund - Eastspring Small Cap - IRR 54.21%, ROI 15.79%
Work fund - Eastspring Global Leaders MY (inv since Nov'13) - IRR -16.4%, ROI -3.95%

PM
Overall IRR - 9.13%
Best equity fund - Public Islamic Sector Select - IRR 16.04%, ROI 28.95%
Worst equity fund - Public Ittikal - IRR 10.07%, ROI 24.19%
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hi there, I'm interested in purchasing a PRS fund and have narrowed down my search to the funds offered by Hwang.

I'm trying to decide between Hwang AIIMAN PRS Shariah Growth Fund and
Hwang PRS Growth Fund. Does anyone have any experience with these two funds?

Based on the comparison it seems like AIIMAN outperforms Growth fund.

What are your thoughts?
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hi there, I'm interested in purchasing a PRS fund and have narrowed down my search to the funds offered by Hwang.

I'm trying to decide between Hwang AIIMAN PRS Shariah Growth Fund and
Hwang PRS Growth Fund. Does anyone have any experience with these two funds?

Based on the comparison it seems like AIIMAN outperforms Growth fund.

What are your thoughts?
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Just a note;...Past performance may not be an indication of future performance.

Hw PRS Shariah......buying/taping into Hw Aiiman Growth
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYHPRSAF.pdf
Hw Aiiman Growth is 100% Malaysia Eq
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...heetMYHWAMG.pdf

Hw PRS Growth is about 45% Malaysia Equities + Other countries + some % of bonds
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYHPRSGF.pdf

do you want country focused or a more diversified fund?

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 2 2014, 10:51 AM)
Here is my funds' performance as end of April (up to 29/4/14 only)

FSM1 (self)
Overall IRR - 8.06%
Best fund - Kenanga Growth Fund - IRR 25.65%, ROI 13.71%
Worst fund - KAF Global Equities - IRR -2.21%, ROI -0.61%

FSM2 (Wife)
Overall IRR - 7.04%
Best fund - Eastspring Small Cap - IRR 54.21%, ROI 15.79%
Work fund - Eastspring Global Leaders MY (inv since Nov'13) - IRR -16.4%, ROI -3.95%

PM
Overall IRR - 9.13%
Best equity fund - Public Islamic Sector Select - IRR 16.04%, ROI 28.95%
Worst equity fund - Public Ittikal - IRR 10.07%, ROI 24.19%
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These are from 1st January to 29th April, or from an earlier date?

Eastpring small cap is doing well on my end too. The monetary ROI is currently higher than my kenanga syariah growth, both were invested at the same period. I have bigger holdings in kenanga though. Placed a lower ratio for small cap investments
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 2 2014, 10:51 AM)
Here is my funds' performance as end of April (up to 29/4/14 only)

FSM1 (self)
Overall IRR - 8.06%
Best fund - Kenanga Growth Fund - IRR 25.65%, ROI 13.71%
Worst fund - KAF Global Equities - IRR -2.21%, ROI -0.61%

FSM2 (Wife)
Overall IRR - 7.04%
Best fund - Eastspring Small Cap - IRR 54.21%, ROI 15.79%
Work fund - Eastspring Global Leaders MY (inv since Nov'13) - IRR -16.4%, ROI -3.95%

PM
Overall IRR - 9.13%
Best equity fund - Public Islamic Sector Select - IRR 16.04%, ROI 28.95%
Worst equity fund - Public Ittikal - IRR 10.07%, ROI 24.19%
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My FSM portfolio got no negative ROI and IRR fund anymore, the least is AmDynamic Bond with IRR 3%++, highest is Hwang Asia Quantum with IRR 18% followed by RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield at 14%
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 2 2014, 11:16 AM)
Just a note;...Past performance may not be an indication of future performance.

Hw PRS Shariah......buying/taping into Hw Aiiman Growth
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYHPRSAF.pdf
Hw Aiiman Growth is 100% Malaysia Eq
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...heetMYHWAMG.pdf

Hw PRS Growth is about 45% Malaysia Equities + Other countries + some % of bonds
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYHPRSGF.pdf

do you want country focused or a more diversified fund?
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thanks for the info yklooi.

I assume having a diversified fund (HW PRS Growht) would be a wiser choice?

I already have a syariah fund with PM and it is doing okay. I guess I shouldn't limit myself to country specific funds?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 2 2014, 11:21 AM)
My FSM portfolio got no negative ROI and IRR fund anymore, the least is AmDynamic Bond with IRR 3%++, highest is Hwang Asia Quantum with IRR 18% followed by RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield at 14%
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My KAF GEF is improving, a month ago IRR was -6%, now -2%. Eastspring Global Leaders invested end of last year and still negative IRR, ROI drop by about 3.6% from 3 weeks ago together with Eastspring GEMF.

How is your overall IRR?
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QUOTE(azrash @ May 2 2014, 11:18 AM)
These are from 1st January to 29th April, or from an earlier date?

Eastpring small cap is doing well on my end too. The monetary ROI is currently higher than my kenanga syariah growth, both were invested at the same period. I have bigger holdings in kenanga though. Placed a lower ratio for small cap investments
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From the date it was invested.
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 2 2014, 11:41 AM)
My KAF GEF is improving, a month ago IRR was -6%, now -2%. Eastspring Global Leaders invested end of last year and still negative IRR, ROI drop by about 3.6% from 3 weeks ago together with Eastspring GEMF.

How is your overall IRR?
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Overall IRR of my UT investing is 5.6%.

But it's not really that meaningful, cos it included performance of funds previously bought thru EON/HLB at Sales Charge of 5-6%, and funds which I dumped (at a mistake) during 2010/2011 slump.
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QUOTE(3antz @ May 2 2014, 10:56 AM)
hi there, I'm interested in purchasing a PRS fund and have narrowed down my search to the funds offered by Hwang.

I'm trying to decide between Hwang AIIMAN PRS Shariah Growth Fund and
Hwang PRS Growth Fund. Does anyone have any experience with these two funds?

Based on the comparison it seems like AIIMAN outperforms Growth fund.

What are your thoughts?
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I am a Hwang-PRS contributor since inception so let me pen my thoughts on this matter.

I am tempted to contribute to Hwang-PRS Shariah Growth Fund which is essentially a daughter fund of Hwang AIIMAN but I did not.

For me, my portfolio is too overly exposed towards M'sian equity via my EPF-MIS. That is why I went for Hwang-PRS Growth instead plainly for diversification as that one has exposure towards Asia Ex-Japan.

Hence again it all depends on individual, if you are not overly exposed to M'sian equities, than Hwang-PRS AIIMAN is a great investment vehicle. As for my situation, even though the numbers favours AIIMAN, I have to contribute to a lousier fund in the name of diversification.

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Overall IRR of my UT investing is 5.6%.

But it's not really that meaningful, cos it included performance of funds previously bought thru EON/HLB at Sales Charge of 5-6%, and funds which I dumped (at a mistake) during 2010/2011 slump.
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True but long term I think steady funds will beat volatile funds.. say you want to retire at 60 or whatever... then 60 you have to take out.. but at 60 your fund is bottoming.. have to postpone retirement lol tongue.gif
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My FSM portfolio got no negative ROI and IRR fund anymore, the least is AmDynamic Bond with IRR 3%++, highest is Hwang Asia Quantum with IRR 18% followed by RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield at 14%
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April has been quite a good month. MoM my portfolio gain around 1%+. Still waiting for chance to increase my GEYF and PGSF exposure. Unit trust currently on hibernate mode already. Stock giving more excitement now, although small cap stocks got hit 2 days straight sad.gif
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April has been quite a good month. MoM my portfolio gain around 1%+. Still waiting for chance to increase my GEYF and PGSF exposure. Unit trust currently on hibernate mode already. Stock giving more excitement now, although small cap stocks got hit 2 days straight  sad.gif
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Today my REITs doing well biggrin.gif
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I think my portfolio will have not much action in May.

Your stock portfolio how many % ROI return already? *ignore all the complicated calculation please. It's Friday* tongue.gif
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I think my portfolio will have not much action in May.

Your stock portfolio how many % ROI return already? *ignore all the complicated calculation please. It's Friday* tongue.gif
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got bullets? prepare to do some shopping in May, which is known for sell offs historically...
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what a coincident.....
Do You Sell In May And Go Away? [2 May 2014]

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4587

from FSM.......Apart from just reading this article, all of our investors will be able to gain more insights on this "Sell in May and Go Away" strategy as Fundsupermart.com is organising a seminar surrounding this strategy in May. Aside from going to Kuala Lumpur and Penang, the Fundsupermart team will be going to Johor Bahru too! Stay tuned!


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got bullets? prepare to do some shopping in May, which is known for sell offs historically...
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many plan come out already
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changed job and very bz nowadays....but if you have those med card info, do email to me. will post it as soon as i can

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why u no update ur blog medical card plan?
many plan come out already
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what a coincident.....
Do You Sell In May And Go Away? [2 May 2014]

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4587

from  FSM.......Apart from just reading this article, all of our investors will be able to gain more insights on this "Sell in May and Go Away" strategy as Fundsupermart.com is organising a seminar surrounding this strategy in May. Aside from going to Kuala Lumpur and Penang, the Fundsupermart team will be going to Johor Bahru too! Stay tuned!
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I am planning to buy into US mutual fund for diversification purpose. May I know which good fund to choose and what is the platform to buy? Can I buy from fundsupermart?

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What you used it for? Sounds like a lot..
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Father masuk hospital..
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It is for security concern just like bank account. Does any internet banking allow you login without do anything? No, it is same with FSM, but it should not as short as 3 minutes, I did write to FSM on Feb-2013, they reply me is 30 minutes, but I noticed that the duration has been change shorter, not sure how long.
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why FSM always auto log me out?
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FSM's systems can't deal with load balancers - ie. if your IP changes during your session, U get logged out the moment U click on a new page. My office uses 2 ISPs thus my experience + confirmation from FSM's IT
On my home's Unifi - no issue >= 5mins.

BTW, were U using ABNXcess OR your office's Internet when your "3 mins time-out" happened?


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not online my office and home

even my mobile phone also will log out using data plan
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I think your FSM account has alot of money in it. That is why FSM log you out within 3 mins to avoid misuse by other people.. tongue.gif
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May I know which FSM fund track US Index Fund?
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INFINITY US 500 STOCK INDEX

INVESTMENT OBJECTIVE

The fund aims for medium to long term capital appreciation by following the performance of Standard & Poor's 500 Composite Stock Price Index through investment as a feeder fund in the Vanguard® US 500 Stock Index Fund.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/fundi...olnumber=370283

hope this is the one you are looking for.
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how soon we can do cross border transaction and buy FSM SG funds?
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how soon we can do cross border transaction and buy FSM SG funds?
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Open FSM SG account..
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INFINITY US 500 STOCK INDEX

INVESTMENT OBJECTIVE

The fund aims for medium to long term capital appreciation by following the performance of Standard & Poor's 500 Composite Stock Price Index through investment as a feeder fund in the Vanguard® US 500 Stock Index Fund.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/fundi...olnumber=370283

hope this is the one you are looking for.
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Open FSM SG account..
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checked its FAQ at its website or asked its client / customer service?

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/home/...strictions.svdo

appreciate if you could post their response here. notworthy.gif
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Hi all, i started back again @ thread v1 recently.

I have little confusing.
How actually UT "makes" money?
Is it thru buying and selling or it will grow by investing money in?

Please correct me~
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Hi all, i started back again @ thread v1 recently.

I have little confusing.
How actually UT "makes" money?
Is it thru buying and selling or it will grow by investing money in?

Please correct me~
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Please go google meaning of "unit trust"

I give u a very simple example...

u, me, Encik Abu and Mr Bond have RM10,000 each

We appoint Miss Cecilia as our fund manager

We call our fund, Hot Miss C Unit Trust Fund brows.gif

It started off with RM40,000 from us, with 40,000 units of RM1.00 each

Miss C will take our money and invest

Lose money or gain money will depend on her skills
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Thanks pink spider,
so we will gain from the dividend distributed right?

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Thanks pink spider,
so we will gain from the dividend distributed right?
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Please read Post #1 THOROUGHLY

And especially try to understand how the NAV price of a unit trust is calculated (esp FAQ No. 2 & 4)
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NO

Please read Post #1 THOROUGHLY

And especially try to understand how the NAV price of a unit trust is calculated (esp FAQ No. 2 & 4)
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Noticed lots of spoon-feed me newbies (even some oldbies) coming in?
Market's topping? brows.gif

time to <'ala Kramer> - "SELL SELL SELL!" ??heheh
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Noticed lots of spoon-feed me newbies (even some oldbies) coming in?
Market's topping?  brows.gif

time to <'ala Kramer> - "SELL SELL SELL!" ??heheh
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Yeah sweat.gif

Considering to overweight REITs now...income stream hmm.gif
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I opened an account with them more than a year.
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Finally done registered for FSM Singapore. Took almost a month to complete. laugh.gif
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TT is one way

bank draft pos is another way

open SG bank account is another more convenient way laugh.gif
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Anyone got info if AMB Dividend Trust is giving distribution?

NAV drop alot but didn't see FSM update on its website.
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drop how much??  sweat.gif  theirs is end of aug..
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Confirm it is distribution, saw FSM updated already
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Confirm it is distribution, saw FSM updated already
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yup updated. rclxms.gif

but need to log in to see our holdings. didn't state it in their page.


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sell out in small caps is bound to happen sooner or later....biggrin.gif
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Seminars in KL, Penang & JB: Should You "Sell In May And Go Away"?.......May 6, 2014
If you’ve ever thought about adopting this “Sell in May and Go Away” strategy, you’re invited to join our seminar to gain more insights on this strategy.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4597


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Feel wanna increase % for jaguh kampong Hwang Select Opportunity hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 7 2014, 09:45 AM)
Feel wanna increase % for jaguh kampong Hwang Select Opportunity hmm.gif
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hmm.gif my tracking on HSO...2 Jan till 30 April up 1.72%
hmm.gif for jaguh kampung....Kenanga better? shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 7 2014, 09:53 AM)
hmm.gif my tracking on HSO...2 Jan till 30 April up 1.72%
hmm.gif for  jaguh kampung....Kenanga better?  shakehead.gif
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Well u know, HSO got up to 30% on HK and SG...dragged by HK lor.

I still prefer HSO bcos I can switch between HSO and Ponzi fund...if I pick Kenanga, no fund to switch freely

oi, 1.72% for a quarter, annualised 6.88% decent lar, beats EPF tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 7 2014, 09:54 AM)
Well u know, HSO got up to 30% on HK and SG...dragged by HK lor.

I still prefer HSO bcos I can switch between HSO and Ponzi fund...if I pick Kenanga, no fund to switch freely

oi, 1.72% for a quarter, annualised 6.88% decent lar, beats EPF tongue.gif
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rclxms.gif can able to do intra switching is definitely a good choice....i liked that too. Observed that RHB OSK got more choices of funds.
10 May 13 till 30 Apr 14 is only 4.96% after - SC

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 7 2014, 09:58 AM)
rclxms.gif can able to do inter switching is definitely a good choice....i liked that too. Observed that RHB OSK got more choices of funds.
10 May 13 till 30 Apr 14 is only 4.96% after - SC
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Ahem...u din read the find notes...RHB-OSK is not free switching rolleyes.gif

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...do?code=MYRHBIM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 7 2014, 10:04 AM)
Ahem...u din read the find notes...RHB-OSK is not free switching rolleyes.gif

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...do?code=MYRHBIM

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doh.gif oh i forgot....i made a switch recently and they charged me RM 25..but due to abit higher sum...the % is minimal when compared.
btw, as at 31 Mar HSO exposure to HK is 9.2%...
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doh.gif  oh i forgot....i made a switch recently and they charged me RM 25..but due to abit  higher sum...the % is minimal when compared.
btw, as at 31 Mar HSO exposure to HK is 9.2%...
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Well u know, HSO got up to 30% on HK and SG...dragged by HK lor.

I still prefer HSO bcos I can switch between HSO and Ponzi fund...if I pick Kenanga, no fund to switch freely

oi, 1.72% for a quarter, annualised 6.88% decent lar, beats EPF tongue.gif
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Can switch to Kenanga Bond ma.. tongue.gif
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Can switch to Kenanga Bond ma.. tongue.gif
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FSM's systems can't deal with load balancers - ie. if your IP changes during your session, U get logged out the moment U click on a new page. My office uses 2 ISPs thus my experience + confirmation from FSM's IT
On my home's Unifi - no issue >= 5mins.

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No.

Load balancer have persistance routing turned on which mean any port 443 will using same IP for entire session, mean IP will not change
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QUOTE(MNet @ May 7 2014, 07:58 PM)
No.

Load balancer have persistance routing turned on which mean any port 443 will using same IP for entire session, mean IP will not change
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U must be right - somehow must be both ISPs have problem with FSM site.
Every day, every time.
At the same time, on another similar configured PC on Digi or Celcom broadband - no issue.
Must be the dang ISPs.
Thanks for explaining all load balancers for sure uses persistance routing and port 443. notworthy.gif
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hi newbie here,

i would like to ask why does fsm always making me login again and again
is it because i have passed 3 pm?
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Blur.. Is it you didnt have activity for a certain amount of time. So they log you out for security reasons..
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FSM dinner with PHEIM UT
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anyone going?
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Blur..  Is it you didnt have activity for a certain amount of time. So they log you out for security reasons..
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nope i am not idling
i also found out that if i change tab it will most probably log me out from their system
i wonder is switching the tab is the culprit hmm.gif
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nope i am not idling
i also found out that if i change tab it will most probably log me out from their system
i wonder is switching the tab is the culprit  hmm.gif
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Maybank Asset Management On Board......May 8, 2014
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Maybank Asset Management On Board......May 8, 2014
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http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4606
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Unker, free to dig performance history of the Target Fund?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 8 2014, 11:55 AM)
Unker, free to dig performance history of the Target Fund?
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hmm.gif on a bond fund? not for this 1~2 years.
some flexi house loans is 4.2% already....dump in there and wait for "timing" after correction better (if only know when ha-ha)? shakehead.gif
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u can refer to Hong Leong Global Bond Fund which is also invested into the same mother fund. was invested in this Hong Leong Global Bond Fund for years...made some money there, but recent year performance has been lagging. switch out since then....

alternatively, you can view the mother fund performance in FSM SG web site.

PS: I think FT Global Total Return fund has better performance than this FT Global Bond Fund

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 8 2014, 11:55 AM)
Unker, free to dig performance history of the Target Fund?
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QUOTE(TingTong123 @ May 8 2014, 12:28 AM)
nope i am not idling
i also found out that if i change tab it will most probably log me out from their system
i wonder is switching the tab is the culprit  hmm.gif
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Is now a right time to accumulate more UT since most of the funds price are at their peak now... or shall I wait until end of May sell out season?
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QUOTE(echoesian @ May 9 2014, 10:36 AM)
Is now a right time to accumulate more UT since most of the funds price are at their peak now... or shall I wait until end of May sell out season?
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hmm.gif most of my funds, are already OFF their peak for the past 1~2 weeks.....
ex, (value as at 5 May)
Cimb Global titans...Jan till now -1.66%
Rhb Osk Emerging Opp 22 Apr till now - 2.36%
Rhb Osk Global Eq Yield 22 Apr till now - 1.48%
Hwang select China .Jan till now - 8.14%

End of May sell out season? why? for what reasons? notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 8 2014, 11:57 AM)
hmm.gif on a bond fund? not for this 1~2 years.
some flexi house loans is 4.2% already....dump in there and wait for "timing" after correction better (if only know when ha-ha)?  shakehead.gif
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CMF now yielding 3%...I'm parking most of my cash there now.
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first time and newbie here...tried with kenanga growth tongue.gif

any advise from senior here?
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QUOTE(leaF @ May 9 2014, 11:55 AM)
first time and newbie here...tried with kenanga growth tongue.gif

any advise from senior here?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 9 2014, 11:55 AM)
What advise u want?
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who going the seminar in KL? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ May 9 2014, 11:55 AM)
first time and newbie here...tried with kenanga growth tongue.gif

any advise from senior here?
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kenaga is old already cannot catchup

now the era is for east spring small cap fund
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kenaga is old already cannot catchup

now the era is for east spring small cap fund
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couldn't compare in this way since they are different fund types, one is growth fund and another is small cap. the latter has higher volatility which means more risk.
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What happened to GEYF ? If I remember correctly, this fund does not have distribution.

Top up time.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 9 2014, 11:26 AM)
hmm.gif most of my funds, are already OFF their peak for the past 1~2 weeks.....
ex, (value as at 5 May)
Cimb Global titans...Jan till now -1.66%
Rhb Osk Emerging Opp 22 Apr till now - 2.36%
Rhb Osk Global Eq Yield 22 Apr till now - 1.48%
Hwang select China .Jan till now - 8.14%

End of May sell out season? why? for what reasons?  notworthy.gif
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Historically, KLSE stocks would be sell-out season in May every year due to window dressing reason. So I expect it will happen again this year.

This post has been edited by echoesian: May 10 2014, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ May 10 2014, 02:50 AM)
couldn't compare in this way since they are different fund types, one is growth fund and another is small cap. the latter has higher volatility which means more risk.
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QUOTE(echoesian @ May 10 2014, 02:39 PM)
Historically, KLSE stocks would be sell-out season in May every year due to window dressing reason. So I expect it will happen again this year.
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hmm.gif may this be relevant?
Do You Sell In May And Go Away? [2 May 2014]
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4587

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yawn.gif cool2.gif
just something to past time while waiting....waiting....waiting......

Anyone who has been on a long car journey with children in the back seat will know just how demanding the trip can sometimes be.
Generally, things tend to start off on a fairly good footing with everyone filled with excitement. But it doesn’t take long before the inevitable “are we there yet” question pops up.
What are responsible parents supposed to do in that situation?

Has The Bull Market Run Out Of Steam?

http://www.fool.sg/2014/05/11/has-the-bull...n-out-of-steam/
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For European heavy fund, I just notice this:

AMSCHRODER EUROPEAN EQUITY ALPHA

URL: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYAMSEE
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 12 2014, 02:36 PM)
yawn.gif  cool2.gif
just something to past time while waiting....waiting....waiting......

Anyone who has been on a long car journey with children in the back seat will know just how demanding the trip can sometimes be.
Generally, things tend to start off on a fairly good footing with everyone filled with excitement. But it doesn’t take long before the inevitable “are we there yet” question pops up.
What are responsible parents supposed to do in that situation?

Has The Bull Market Run Out Of Steam?

http://www.fool.sg/2014/05/11/has-the-bull...n-out-of-steam/
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Play I-spy... word games, etc. - think & talk, nothing written else accident waiting to happen tongue.gif
OR
throw them yr mobile phone to play - which is constantly charged via your lighter - USB thinggy smile.gif

From another parent.

back to topic - when most "experts agree" something will happen in the financial markets... high probability it won't happen
OR the opposite happens (lower probability than it wont happen)
ie it's like a dang ship - if most passengers run to portside coz "they know what will happen", what really happens?

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So what happen to GEYF ah? Index didn't drop that much what..
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Switching out from Pacific Global Stars to Aberdeen Islamic World
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 09:33 AM)
Switching out from Pacific Global Stars to Aberdeen Islamic World
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Now you're jumping to the Aberdeen Islamic World bandwagon?

You have RHB-OSK GEYF right?
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 14 2014, 09:38 AM)
Now you're jumping to the Aberdeen Islamic World bandwagon?

You have RHB-OSK GEYF right?
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Yes.

So, one dividend-focused, another business fundamentals-focused, hope that this combo would work out well.

Reasons I'm quitting PGSF:
- fund size kept getting smaller and smaller, expense ratio (2.43%!) getting higher and higher (fixed expenses, fund size smaller, thus higher %)
- underperformance for prolonged period vs peers

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 14 2014, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 09:42 AM)
Yes.

So, one dividend-focused, another business fundamentals-focused, hope that this combo would work out well.

Reasons I'm quitting PGSF:
- fund size kept getting smaller and smaller, expense ratio (2.43%!) getting higher and higher (fixed expenses, fund size smaller, thus higher %)
- underperformance for prolonged period vs peers
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What you think of this: AMSCHRODER EUROPEAN EQUITY ALPHA?

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QUOTE(David83 @ May 14 2014, 09:43 AM)
What you think of this: AMSCHRODER EUROPEAN EQUITY ALPHA?
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Haven't studied this fund. Tell u more after I've studied it.

But as u know, I don't really like funds that are too focused. But I think combo-ing this with a US-focused equity fund might work well to maintain a fixed % exposure to developed markets.

But then...where will Japan exposure come from if u do this? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 09:44 AM)
Haven't studied this fund. Tell u more after I've studied it.

But as u know, I don't really like funds that are too focused. But I think combo-ing this with a US-focused equity fund might work well to maintain a fixed % exposure to developed markets.

But then...where will Japan exposure come from if u do this? tongue.gif
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Hwang Select Japan Quantum Fund?
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYHWSJQ


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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 14 2014, 10:05 AM)
Wah...wanna play so focused meh? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 09:42 AM)
Yes.

So, one dividend-focused, another business fundamentals-focused, hope that this combo would work out well.

Reasons I'm quitting PGSF:
- fund size kept getting smaller and smaller, expense ratio (2.43%!) getting higher and higher (fixed expenses, fund size smaller, thus higher %)
- underperformance for prolonged period vs peers
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Thought you don't like Syariah compliant fund?
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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 14 2014, 11:47 AM)
Thought you don't like Syariah compliant fund?
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GEYF will cover what Aberdeen Islamic World can't cover. I still overweight GEYF relative to AIW
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 11:51 AM)
GEYF will cover what Aberdeen Islamic World can't cover. I still overweight GEYF relative to AIW
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Geographical allocation is different with what PGSF covers too.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 14 2014, 12:01 PM)
Geographical allocation is different with what PGSF covers too.
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I'll leave HK and SG coverage to my HwangIM funds.

Only thing missing now is 0% Australia coverage. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 12:02 PM)
I'll leave HK and SG coverage to my HwangIM funds.

Only thing missing now is 0% Australia coverage. laugh.gif
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I feel like exiting EIGEM fund. The % is so small in my portfolio the profit is so insignificant. Better to accumulate the capital somewhere else right? But with the current market, how to lump it. Maybe GEYF - since the NAV drop hell a lot that day.
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I have AIWF and CIMB GTF to cover developed markets.

CIMB APDIF and HAQF to concentrate on Asia Ex Japan.

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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 14 2014, 12:14 PM)
I feel like exiting EIGEM fund. The % is so small in my portfolio the profit is so insignificant. Better to accumulate the capital somewhere else right? But with the current market, how to lump it. Maybe GEYF - since the NAV drop hell a lot that day.
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EIGEM is like a rollercoaster. I have quite significant % in it...about 20% laugh.gif sweat.gif
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Dare to topup last week... this week just watch the price... hihihi.
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3 Reasons Not To Overlook Emerging Markets....March 13, 2014
FSM highlight 3 reasons why investors should not overlook emerging markets.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 01:06 PM)
EIGEM is like a rollercoaster. I have quite significant % in it...about 20% laugh.gif  sweat.gif
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Too late. Exited EIGEM and pool my capital into GEYF, since the NAV price is low with the recent fall. Bold move I must say, since index is all time high.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 14 2014, 10:33 AM)
Switching out from Pacific Global Stars to Aberdeen Islamic World
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Philips readjusting.....



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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 14 2014, 11:08 PM)
Welcome welcome..  Join me in Aberdeen.. 😜
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 14 2014, 11:15 PM)
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Philips readjusting.....
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My view is different... The jap exposure is so little to mentioned as reason... Hahahaha.... Ponzi fund make a come back as HK Market go up...
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Its not able to beat the benchmark
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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ May 15 2014, 12:16 AM)
My AIW recorded 7.X% edi... Strongly ride in volatility...
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I didn't update my portfolio for almost 2 weeks. So not sure how many % up.. tongue.gif
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My AIW recorded 7.X% edi... Strongly ride in volatility...
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mine recorded at IRR 21.93% @ 5 months old. nod.gif
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Earnings Trend Update [End-Apr 14]..... iFAST Research Team May 14, 2014
Earnings are the lifeblood of stock markets – history shows that stock prices tend to track the growth of corporate earnings over the long term, making earnings growth an important consideration in the forecasting of stock market returns (see How Does One Predict Equity Market Returns?). In this new monthly feature, we comment on the trend in corporate earnings for various markets under our coverage, a critical input in the valuation of stock markets.

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Looks like US markets get beating quite bad today..
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 16 2014, 02:07 AM)
Looks like US markets get beating quite bad today..
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Not much impact in terms of S&P index mar - Wed hit highest high, Thu scaled back down - ok ar
hit below 1800 lar - then starts to get interesting tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ May 16 2014, 11:03 AM)
Not much impact in terms of S&P index mar - Wed hit highest high, Thu scaled back down - ok ar
hit below 1800 lar - then starts to get interesting tongue.gif
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Yup...
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no one going to their Seminar?
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Nope..  You went?
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QUOTE(kabal82 @ May 19 2014, 04:37 PM)
Anyone top up for EI GEM fund for this month? How come the sales charge is 1%?
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hmm.gif last month 1 Apr till 30 Apr...fund of the month promotion at 1%
this month?...just checked the buying sc it is at 2%
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 19 2014, 04:43 PM)
hmm.gif last month 1 Apr till 30 Apr...fund of the month promotion at 1%
this month?...just checked the buying sc it is at 2%
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Yes... That's what I see also... but the transaction still stated 1% instead of 2% rclxub.gif

Need to calculate whether it's really 1% or just a mistake by FSM
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post May 21 2014, 05:53 PM

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post May 21 2014, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 21 2014, 02:20 PM)
Anyone going to the dinner this Friday?
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High-value investor spotted lol. That's only for their high-value clients I think smile.gif

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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 21 2014, 08:11 PM)
High-value investor spotted lol. That's only for their high-value clients I think smile.gif
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post May 21 2014, 10:06 PM

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post May 21 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 21 2014, 10:06 PM)
thailand buy buy buy
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Can't seem to find any Thailand fund. Any Thailand fund to recommend?
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post May 22 2014, 10:12 AM

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Pink Spider The spreadsheet you posted on the first page, after you completely sold the holdings in that fund, your profit/loss column shows NIL figure or the gain/loss?

Cause there are 2 ways of calculating. One is taking the figure right from the sales order FSM emailed. One is you calculate the average cost, and multiple with units sold, and take the remaining cost of investment to deduct it.
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Any discount on the Eastspring MY Focus Fund? Interested to buy this fund soon
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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 21 2014, 08:11 PM)
High-value investor spotted lol. That's only for their high-value clients I think smile.gif
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No lah. I'm only Silver status. Was surprised when they invited me. Who else got invited?
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QUOTE(MNet @ May 21 2014, 05:53 PM)
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ May 22 2014, 11:25 AM)
No lah. I'm only Silver status. Was surprised when they invited me. Who else got invited?
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I'm also Silver member but I don't get any invitation?
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QUOTE(RO Player @ May 22 2014, 11:51 AM)
any reason you wanna buy, i got RM10k on this units, going down atm (-90/+30)... sweat.gif  since i bought it at eunittrust at 0%..
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No lah. I'm only Silver status. Was surprised when they invited me. Who else got invited?
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only silver status... I think that's like... 100K+ in investments alone right? smile.gif

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I'm also Silver member but I don't get any invitation?
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Maybe your email address is wrong? dunno. Otherwise it's not based on status but the amount of invested capital smile.gif

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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 22 2014, 10:12 AM)
Pink Spider The spreadsheet you posted on the first page, after you completely sold the holdings in that fund, your profit/loss column shows NIL figure or the gain/loss?

Cause there are 2 ways of calculating. One is taking the figure right from the sales order FSM emailed. One is you calculate the average cost, and multiple with units sold, and take the remaining cost of investment to deduct it.
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Used to do that, felt that it's not really worth the trouble.

Profit/(loss) on partial sale would be part of the total profit/(loss) on that fund.

Once fully sold, the P/(L) column would show the gain/(loss)
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 22 2014, 01:31 PM)
Used to do that, felt that it's not really worth the trouble.

Profit/(loss) on partial sale would be part of the total profit/(loss) on that fund.

Once fully sold, the P/(L) column would show the gain/(loss)
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The part u highlighted. If partial sale, must do that.. If not u realize that your profit figure and % won't tie to what is display with the FSM page.

But I agree, when fully sold.. I usually use the other way of calculating. Like that XIRR only can take into account the realized profit/(loss) made.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 22 2014, 04:35 PM)
The part u highlighted. If partial sale, must do that.. If not u realize that your profit figure and % won't tie to what is display with the FSM page.

But I agree, when fully sold.. I usually use the other way of calculating. Like that XIRR only can take into account the realized profit/(loss) made.
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I never bothered to tie with that tongue.gif

As long as my total holdings (in units) is correct, the rest I won't bother.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 22 2014, 12:48 PM)
only silver status... I think that's like... 100K+ in investments alone right? smile.gif
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QUOTE(RO Player @ May 22 2014, 09:30 PM)
kenanga growth fund..perform...every month gives 0.01 cent..NAV..
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In term of % of ROI, what does it translate to? hmm.gif
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India's funds are doing quite well...must be due to the recent election results?
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ May 23 2014, 04:11 AM)
India's funds are doing quite well...must be due to the recent election results?
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This post has been edited by David83: May 23 2014, 07:47 AM
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Is it advisable to purchase offer funds ? Eg: this month is CIMB PRINCIPAL GLOBAL TITAN FUNDS and 1% SC....

so many funds and so confusing. So, to help shortlist just go for whatever recommended?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 23 2014, 04:37 PM)
Is it advisable to purchase offer funds ? Eg: this month is CIMB PRINCIPAL GLOBAL TITAN FUNDS and 1% SC....

so many funds and so confusing. So, to help shortlist just go for whatever recommended?
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hmm.gif maybe abit related to this?
3 Misconceptions Of Our Recommended Funds List
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3983

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 21 2014, 10:06 PM)
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rclxms.gif I think FSM staffs read yr posting... tongue.gif
they came out with this
Update on Thailand: Looking Beyond the Coup D’état

In this article, we provide a short update on the economic situation in Thailand, as well as Thai corporate earnings and our current stance on the country.... iFAST Research Team May 23, 2014

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...oup-D-tat--9399

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I don't see the PRS rm500 incentive credited into my account A yet hmm.gif does anyone have the same issue?
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I don't see the PRS rm500 incentive credited into my account A yet hmm.gif does anyone have the same issue?
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hmm.gif maybe bcos of tis?
PPA will credit the RM500 into your PRS fund(s) after the cut-off date of end June and December every year from 2014 to 2018.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4558
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 24 2014, 02:07 PM)
hmm.gif maybe bcos of tis?
PPA will credit the RM500 into your PRS fund(s) after the cut-off date of end June and December every year from 2014 to 2018.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4558
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QUOTE(MNet @ May 21 2014, 10:06 PM)
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Topped up on my Thailand fund recently thumbup.gif

Top up Kenanga Growth Fund next week
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ May 24 2014, 02:50 PM)
Topped up on my Thailand fund recently  thumbup.gif

Top up Kenanga Growth Fund next week
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Care to share which Thailand Fund? I can't find any in FSM.
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Care to share which Thailand Fund? I can't find any in FSM.
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Not through FSM, buying through US broker (TD Ameritrade)
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ May 24 2014, 03:50 PM)
Topped up on my Thailand fund recently  thumbup.gif

Top up Kenanga Growth Fund next week
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Why you shouldn’t scoop up Thailand stocks

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Bargain hunters sharpening their knives in hopes Thailand's military coup will bring buying opportunities should put the silverware away, Goldman Sachs said in a note.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/101704090
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Quick question guys...I see on FSM they have something like a recommended portfolio list for conservative, agressive etc. How does that work? Is it recommended to go with that?
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 27 2014, 12:42 PM)
Quick question guys...I see on FSM they have something like a recommended portfolio list for conservative, agressive etc. How does that work? Is it recommended to go with that?
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Just a note:

Recommended Portfolios

These portfolio recommendations are meant to serve as possible guidelines and do not take into account the financial situation, time horizon, existing portfolio and risk profile of an individual investor. It is the investor's responsibility and discretion to decide if these funds are suitable for him or her. If in doubt, please seek professional advice. The portfolios aim to address the needs of investors who are just starting out on their investment journey...

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/inves...ntportfolio.tpl
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 27 2014, 01:35 PM)
Just a note:

Recommended Portfolios

These portfolio recommendations are meant to serve as possible guidelines and do not take into account the financial situation, time horizon, existing portfolio and risk profile of an individual investor. It is the investor's responsibility and discretion to decide if these funds are suitable for him or her. If in doubt, please seek professional advice. The portfolios aim to address the needs of investors who are just starting out on their investment journey...

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/inves...ntportfolio.tpl
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Yup i read that. Just wondering if it's a recommended starting point. I prefer to do monthly savings, but it seems that the portfolio option FSM provides no longer provides that.
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 27 2014, 02:00 PM)
Yup i read that. Just wondering if it's a recommended starting point. I prefer to do monthly savings, but it seems that the portfolio option FSM provides no longer provides that.
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for monthly saving,....would suggest you try this
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=976

more benefits
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 26 2014, 09:30 PM)
Why you shouldn’t scoop up Thailand stocks

Leslie Shaffer | Writer for CNBC.com

Bargain hunters sharpening their knives in hopes Thailand's military coup will bring buying opportunities should put the silverware away, Goldman Sachs said in a note.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/101704090
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Let's see how it goes thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 23 2014, 10:41 PM)
rclxms.gif I think FSM staffs read yr posting... tongue.gif
they came out with this
Update on Thailand: Looking Beyond the Coup D’état

In this article, we provide a short update on the economic situation in Thailand, as well as Thai corporate earnings and our current stance on the country.... iFAST Research Team  May 23, 2014 

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...oup-D-tat--9399
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erm.. what fund is related to Thailand in FSM?
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erm.. what fund is related to Thailand in FSM?
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currently no thailand focused fund in FSM M'sia.
read post #496. or try FSM S'pore....it has
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 28 2014, 01:41 PM)
currently no thailand focused fund in FSM M'sia.
read post #496. or try FSM S'pore....it has
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GUESS As much.. then open ac in FSM Sing?
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sifus please enlighten me. i wanna buy these funds Kenanga Growth Fund, Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund , Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund , KAF Global Equities Fund and RHB Retirement Series - Growth Fund. would it be a balanced profile? do i opt to regular savings plan or should i change funds if the fund is not performing well in a year or two time? or rather a just deposit and dont change fund strategy would be more clever?

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QUOTE(atrocitines @ May 28 2014, 09:06 PM)
sifus please enlighten me. i wanna buy these funds Kenanga Growth Fund, Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund , Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund, KAF Global Equities Fund and RHB Retirement Series - Growth Fund. would it be a balanced profile?
it depends on your % of allocation to each fund?..example if you had 90% of yr portfolio $ in Kenanga (Which is a M'sia focused fund) and 10% shared among other funds..then it is NOT balanced. it also depends on what is your definition of balanced. You can check FSM or eunitrust recommended portfolios for an idea.
do i opt to regular savings plan or should i change funds if the fund is not performing well in a year or two time? or rather a just deposit and dont change fund strategy would be more clever?
hmm.gif It is good to go for the regular saving plan..check FSM for more detailed benefits. I think, 1 or 2 years is too short to give a justified judgement....best if it is compared among it peers (of similar mandate or region)
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