India's funds are doing quite well...must be due to the recent election results?
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May 23 2014, 04:11 AM
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India's funds are doing quite well...must be due to the recent election results?
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Jun 17 2014, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 16 2014, 10:23 PM) p/s I have client who is withdrawing close to RM2,000 per mth from his portfolio (just profit alone without touching the principle) and he does not have to wait for distribution, I just sell his equivalent units. Who says unit trust cannot make money wan? How does it work? You mean you buy a huge amount of units and then you sell off bit by bit every month to get that RM2k? Or you keep buying and selling from various UTs and it works out to about that per month? Sorry, confused a bit. |
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Jun 17 2014, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 17 2014, 03:44 PM) Give a simple picture Ohh...I get it now. So the funds are kinda like a "sure grow" to make sure they have units to sell without touching principal. I'd be happy if I could have that kind of returns every month, lolInitial: RM1m Fund A RM500K Fund B RM500K 1 month later... Fund A RM508K Fund B RM502K So, u sell 4K of Fund A and RM1K of Fund B and leave the rest to grow Something like that... |
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Jun 17 2014, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 17 2014, 04:37 PM) Don't assume that. Ya, that's what I meant...in order for clients to have something to withraw without touching principal, the funds must be those that keep growing or else no profits to withdraw, lol...It COULD also be like this: Initial: RM1m Fund A RM500K Fund B RM500K 1 month later... Fund A RM498K Fund B RM495K I.e. net growth only -RM7K in which case u will withdraw lesser, withdraw nothing or even top up I was just trying to illustrate what xuzen does with his client's account |
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Jun 17 2014, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 17 2014, 08:51 PM) There are several ways... switch some units from equity funds to bond or money-market funds each year, and withdraw out of the bond/money-market funds each month... structure the portfolio to have funds that have distribution in various months or quarters of the year... structure a major portion of the portfolio to have cash distributions... structure the portfolio to have more 'dividend' funds... re-balance the portfolio each year by selling some units equally from all funds or a selection of funds... a combination of all these methods. ...wow, that's some work there, lol...didn't think of it in that way. Thanks for your input!This is from a normal investor viewpoint. Maybe a licensed adviser would have more tools at his disposal without incurring unnecessary switching and exit fees. |
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Jun 25 2014, 05:40 PM
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I'm planning to buy those more aggressive ones so the movement is a lot faster and sell when there's like a few % of profit (fingers crossed). I don't think there's any penalty if we sell within a short of period of time, like few months...yes?
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Jun 25 2014, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 25 2014, 05:44 PM) Thanks for the reply.QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 25 2014, 05:51 PM) eunittrust having 0% promo...exit fee = 0. I proposed KGF & KGOF...within 3 months..you will get back..RM1500 for RM40k invested.. Not familiar with that, but will look into it, thanks QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 25 2014, 06:32 PM) Check to see if there's a min holding period, exit fees etc. But seriously why? you're going to gamble, might as well buy small cap at the stock market. Paying 2% for that kind of risk, doesn't seem to make sense I haven't tried stock market, that's why I'm not getting into it without any proper guidance, lolThis post has been edited by pinksapphire: Jun 25 2014, 06:54 PM |
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Jun 25 2014, 09:14 PM
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Thanks, RO Player.
I wonder if anyone else went for this eUnittrust since there are a number of funds with zero sales charge? o_O Why is there not a thread for this site, by the way, lol...I don't wanna risk going off-topic. |
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Jun 25 2014, 09:19 PM
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Jun 25 2014, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 25 2014, 09:41 PM) Lol, I wasn't planning to do it before 30th June o.O Fast, but not that soon, lol...sorry =/QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 25 2014, 10:34 PM) Thanks for the info! |
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Jun 26 2014, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 26 2014, 04:24 PM) I don't know why the fuss over 1%-2% differences. It is nothing if you're investing over long period like for retirement. Equity fund short term volatility is more than that. Having all your portfolio in one place is better for easy management and critical mass needed for switching. I think that out weight 1-2% saving in SC. Certain situations, like long term, 1-2% is not a big problem. But for shorter period, to me, it's not feasible to pay couple of hundreds to thousands just like that, especially we are the one managing our funds ourselves, not relationship managers. RM50k*2% is already RM1k.QUOTE(nothingz @ Jun 26 2014, 05:03 PM) 10k*2% is RM200, not RM20 This post has been edited by pinksapphire: Jun 26 2014, 10:10 PM |
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Jun 26 2014, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 26 2014, 10:11 PM) 6 months-ish to 1 year max?And 3 months for aggressive funds as I've done that before and left with good returns. I know UT is not meant for short term...but...if it works for certain projected funds that are worth taking risk in, then I don't see why not too |
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Jun 27 2014, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 26 2014, 11:56 PM) Actually now that you think about it, if you have a large amount of money (over Rm100K) the commission starts getting ridiculous, but the returns are still pretty good considering. Yeah, that bigger the amount, the more pain you can feel when the fee costs you thousands.QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:25 PM) Sometime you have to look at the market condition during SC discount offer. Many times I found that just because of chasing the 0% or 1% offer, I have bought at higher price than if I wait for the dip to top up or accumulate more. Need to make sure that we're not penny wise and pound foolish. Yes, 0% is tempting, but is the timing fit into your investment system/methodology? QUOTE(nothingz @ Jun 27 2014, 03:14 PM) nobody asks you to go all in during 0% offer. I never encouraged blind investment. I am just pointing out that there is no point paying additional SC where you can buy somewhere cheaper. Yeah, this is what I'm trying to say too. 0% offer is good if you're gonna be buying the fund anyway and that you're confident with it. It's a bonus to have 0% where elsewhere is charging 2-4% or more. |
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