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post May 23 2014, 04:11 AM

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India's funds are doing quite well...must be due to the recent election results?
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post Jun 17 2014, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 16 2014, 10:23 PM)
p/s I have client who is withdrawing close to RM2,000 per mth from his portfolio (just profit alone without touching the principle) and he does not have to wait for distribution, I just sell his equivalent units. Who says unit trust cannot make money wan?
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How does it work? You mean you buy a huge amount of units and then you sell off bit by bit every month to get that RM2k? Or you keep buying and selling from various UTs and it works out to about that per month? Sorry, confused a bit.
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post Jun 17 2014, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 17 2014, 03:44 PM)
Give a simple picture
Initial: RM1m
Fund A RM500K
Fund B RM500K

1 month later...
Fund A RM508K
Fund B RM502K

So, u sell 4K of Fund A and RM1K of Fund B and leave the rest to grow

Something like that...
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Ohh...I get it now. So the funds are kinda like a "sure grow" to make sure they have units to sell without touching principal. I'd be happy if I could have that kind of returns every month, lol
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post Jun 17 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 17 2014, 04:37 PM)
Don't assume that.

It COULD also be like this:

Initial: RM1m
Fund A RM500K
Fund B RM500K

1 month later...
Fund A RM498K
Fund B RM495K
I.e. net growth only -RM7K in which case u will withdraw lesser, withdraw nothing or even top up

I was just trying to illustrate what xuzen does with his client's account
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Ya, that's what I meant...in order for clients to have something to withraw without touching principal, the funds must be those that keep growing or else no profits to withdraw, lol...
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post Jun 17 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 17 2014, 08:51 PM)
There are several ways... switch some units from equity funds to bond or money-market funds each year, and withdraw out of the bond/money-market funds each month... structure the portfolio to have funds that have distribution in various months or quarters of the year... structure a major portion of the portfolio to have cash distributions... structure the portfolio to have more 'dividend' funds... re-balance the portfolio each year by selling some units equally from all funds or a selection of funds... a combination of all these methods.

This is from a normal investor viewpoint. Maybe a licensed adviser would have more tools at his disposal without incurring unnecessary switching and exit fees.
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...wow, that's some work there, lol...didn't think of it in that way. Thanks for your input!
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post Jun 25 2014, 05:40 PM

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I'm planning to buy those more aggressive ones so the movement is a lot faster and sell when there's like a few % of profit (fingers crossed). I don't think there's any penalty if we sell within a short of period of time, like few months...yes?
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post Jun 25 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 25 2014, 05:44 PM)
just a few funds have minimum holding periods...
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Thanks for the reply.

QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 25 2014, 05:51 PM)
eunittrust having 0% promo...exit fee = 0. I proposed KGF & KGOF...within 3 months..you will get back..RM1500 for RM40k invested..
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Not familiar with that, but will look into it, thanks smile.gif Btw, that's an overly confident statement on how much we'll get from KGF and KGOF, no? tongue.gif

QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 25 2014, 06:32 PM)
Check to see if there's a min holding period, exit fees etc. But seriously why? you're going to gamble, might as well buy small cap at the stock market. Paying 2% for that kind of risk, doesn't seem to make sense smile.gif
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I haven't tried stock market, that's why I'm not getting into it without any proper guidance, lol

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post Jun 25 2014, 09:14 PM

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Thanks, RO Player.

I wonder if anyone else went for this eUnittrust since there are a number of funds with zero sales charge? o_O
Why is there not a thread for this site, by the way, lol...I don't wanna risk going off-topic.
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post Jun 25 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 25 2014, 09:16 PM)
many ppl already go eUT
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Really? Didn't know sweat.gif Initially was thinking of putting in a good amount under FSM...but this 0% promo by eUT is too tempting. Gonna move there instead.
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post Jun 25 2014, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 25 2014, 09:41 PM)
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pls pm me your email & name. so you can win great prizes...pls before 30 June 2014. notworthy.gif
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Lol, I wasn't planning to do it before 30th June o.O Fast, but not that soon, lol...sorry =/

QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 25 2014, 10:34 PM)
If you are going to dca via fxpay it will have to be more than 500 otherwise they will charge rm2 tongue.gif
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Thanks for the info!
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post Jun 26 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 26 2014, 04:24 PM)
I don't know why the fuss over 1%-2% differences. It is nothing if you're investing over long period like for retirement. Equity fund short term volatility is more than that. Having all your portfolio in one place is better for easy management and critical mass needed for switching. I think that out weight 1-2% saving in SC.
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Certain situations, like long term, 1-2% is not a big problem. But for shorter period, to me, it's not feasible to pay couple of hundreds to thousands just like that, especially we are the one managing our funds ourselves, not relationship managers. RM50k*2% is already RM1k.

QUOTE(nothingz @ Jun 26 2014, 05:03 PM)
every cent is money, 10k *2% is rm 20, can eat a decent meal
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10k*2% is RM200, not RM20 tongue.gif

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post Jun 26 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 26 2014, 10:11 PM)
What is your time frame you are looking at to invest in UT
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6 months-ish to 1 year max?
And 3 months for aggressive funds as I've done that before and left with good returns.

I know UT is not meant for short term...but...if it works for certain projected funds that are worth taking risk in, then I don't see why not too smile.gif
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post Jun 27 2014, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 26 2014, 11:56 PM)
Actually now that you think about it, if you have a large amount of money (over Rm100K) the commission starts getting ridiculous, but the returns are still pretty good considering.
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Yeah, that bigger the amount, the more pain you can feel when the fee costs you thousands.

QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:25 PM)
Sometime you have to look at the market condition during SC discount offer. Many times I found that just because of chasing the 0% or 1% offer, I have bought at higher price than if I wait for the dip to top up or accumulate more. Need to make sure that we're not penny wise and pound foolish. Yes, 0% is tempting, but is the timing fit into your investment system/methodology?
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QUOTE(nothingz @ Jun 27 2014, 03:14 PM)
nobody asks you to go all in during 0% offer. I never encouraged blind investment. I am just pointing out that there is no point paying additional SC where you can buy somewhere cheaper.
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Yeah, this is what I'm trying to say too. 0% offer is good if you're gonna be buying the fund anyway and that you're confident with it. It's a bonus to have 0% where elsewhere is charging 2-4% or more.

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