answer 1:

pick up the leaves that have fallen on the floor. Wash it til all the dirt is removed, then soak the leaf in the water in any container(be it together with the betta or wherever)

answer 2:

no problem at all...just make sure that the leaf does not grow any fungus.

normally i use the leaf straight after washing with tap water. just dump the leaf into the tank.

i have a betta sleeping in really really dark water for about 3 weeks now, so far no problem, except that i cant see the fish. haha..

Hey, Benny, thanks for your pic on the Ketapang tree and leaf! From what I know, ketapang tree is very big and shady. The leaves are big as well right?

So last Sunday, I went to pick some leaves up. I'm afraid of being mistaken, so I post the picture of the leaves first... let you guys verify if it's ketapang leaves or not...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Asuk...eofDSCN1577.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Asuk...eofDSCN1578.jpg

Maybe I pluck wrong.. HAHA The leaves look rotten oso. T__T

Guys, One of my fake Female got pinecone/dropsy!
Currently i have quarantined it to a icecream container with ketapang tea.
What Should i do now?

a) Flush it.
b) Release it to a pond.
c) keep in box until it dies a slow death.
d) .....suggestion....

Mecharojak! That sounds scary and terrible! T__T So kesian your betta.

Here's what I found on BSM forum for dropsy.

Dropsy
Occurrence : Very infrequent
Symptoms : Swollen body, protruding scales, bloated eyes
Cause : Organ failure from cancer or poor environmental conditions.
Treatment : Antibacterial should be given through medicated food. Improvement of water quality through water changes will help to clear up this disease. Full recovery from dropsy is rare.

Other infos here:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...3AAYkRG1&show=7
http://www.healthybetta.com/articles/Illne...sis/dropsy.html
http://aquarium-answers.blogspot.com/2006/...ith-dropsy.html

It's not impossible to cure your fish from dropsy. But hv to be diligent la. Dun give up! And obviously it will take more than just ketapang water to cure dropsy. Need medication, anti biotics, etc.

Btw, DUN release your dropsy fish into the pond... treat it as contagious disease.
And dun flush it down or let it die either. Just imagine your mom want to terminate you if you ever fall real sick or hv cancer, etc. NO, right?? Like I said, don't give up! Quickly go get medication and do the necessary preparations after reading those sites.

This post has been edited by cirebonbetta: Feb 28 2008, 02:03 PM

d) apparently, feeding ur betta the yellow powder(LFS medicine) can heal dropsy....but then again getting ur betta to eat medicine is a long shot. Just buy medication for dropsy and let nature take its course.


@cirebonbetta,

Yes, it does look like the correct leaf Btw, only pick those on the floor....those green ones 'tak boleh pakai' yet. It has to be brown leaves.

This post has been edited by ynneb25: Feb 28 2008, 03:08 PM

Applied dropsy medicine solution, lfs guy said yellow powder is only for external problems ......is he right?

Medicine cocktail? Is this ok?
Ketapang tea + Antibacteria Medicine + Yellow Powder + Salt

Anyone here successfully cured dropsy?

Mecharojak>
Errr.... according to the site... dun put aquarium salt adi cuz might make your betta worst.... use Epsom salt or something... The reason for this is because the fish cannot remove the sodium from it's own body. The betta is already having a difficult time getting rid of salts due to kidney dysfunction. This is what has caused the inflated appearance, as well as raised scales if he has reached that point. Your adding aquarium salt to the water is only increasing the problem. The addition of Epsom salt to the water, may be useful however.

Go baca the site I bagi tadi la. They got tell in detail.

The other site say put aquarium salt + epsom but uhh... IMHO better not... cuz now knowing what salt does and the content, etc... Use epsom salt.

Hope it helps.

Try asking around in BSM forum or Mac forum about dropsy oso since got more ppl there.

Benny>
Thanks for certifying teh leaf! I rinse it with water adi. The red spots on the leaf is nothing wan right? XDDD Takut nanti rot and affect the water.

LOL I know who to find if my betta got prob with the leaf. HEHEHHE. >D

This post has been edited by cirebonbetta: Feb 29 2008, 06:05 AM

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This post has been edited by inv: Mar 5 2008, 09:28 AM

My betta is still living with dropsy for over 6 months now.. I'm thinking of giving up, any taker?

End its misery, it no longer has "Quality of Life".

wow, that is really long for a fish to survive having dropsy...
yeah.. time to execute it. I doubt anyone will take it from u

I guess the Diamond filtered water are prolonging him.

I hope someone doing fish disease research will take him.

If execution, 100ml of stabilizer & then .. ? Any idea?

omg diamond filter? Read alot of research condemning that filter

Anyways, back to the main topic. There could be a chance that your fish is not suffering from dropsy. Are you sure of that diagnosis?

Here are the more humane ways of killing ur betta (as learnt from betta breeders):
1) flush them down the toilet.
2) throw them into monsoon drain
3) put them in the freezer(yes, i am serious...and i have tried it b4)

I got alot of chapalang bettas wanna sell.....The female HM got hm gene....Interested can pm me....TQ

http://skychong93.spaces.live.com/default.aspx

i've left my betta at home for 2 days without food in dark room. will it die?

no it won't. fishes can live quite a while without food.

it's just that we tend to equate them with humans.

just make sure you give the fella fresh change of water before you leave.

i don't mean to disturb your sales but, there is no such thing as HM gene. There is no such gene which can guarantee 180deg claudal spread.

nola......If a female can open until 180degree also cannot gurantee the next gene will be 100% hm.....This fishes got hm gene that means it got % to get HM in the next gene....

i think by telling ppl that it's a HM female would suffice...