Hi, I'm a very fat person who wanted to gain mass muscles... There are too many confusing advise throughout Google search so wanted to try my luck to see if there's anyone experience this before... My main goal is to be muscular, so should I start with dieting products, or mass gaining products? Already started gym for around half years... Dropped 12kgs but muscles wasn't so visible, so wanted to try out some supplements as I'm not really satisfied with my progress... Thx in advanced guys...

how u dropped 12 kgs?>

if u share will be useful

Erm, that I dunno how to give advice as I'm not using any personal trainer and I'm not pro at it either... But I workout 2-3 times a week in gym and play a little with my dumbbells at home... The weights drops just like that... Haha... Btw, still very fat now... Current 98kgs, previous 110kgs...

This post has been edited by k3v_84: Mar 23 2014, 04:13 PM

ur previous weight and current weight, body fat % and height?
I'm not expert but i believe these thing are needed for advice from those bodybuilder here

This post has been edited by TheEvilMan: Mar 23 2014, 04:13 PM

owhh 2-3 times only a week? what type of workout? how many hours a day? how about ur food taking?

Current weigh 98kgs, previous 110kgs... Height 172cms but no idea my fat % as I'm just visiting local gym... No machine to check...

Mostly is weight training, occasionally treadmills and cycling machine coz one of the gym I go these 2 machines got problem 1... Workout time is more or less 2hours per session... You're on losing weight plan?

yeahh

how about your food diet?

Erm, food I just adjust a little... But I do stocks some green apples and soya bean drinks for my snack and supper( previous I eat junk foods a lot). B/fast and dinner avoid rice... That's all... A proper diet plan is too hard for me coz I'm a foods lover, haha... :haha:

You must know how much calories you're consuming. Google TDEE and from there fill in your information.

Firstly, kudos on losing 12 kgs!

It depends on what sort of physique you want in the end. If you wish a slim/average one with muscle tone, you could probably continue with just cardio and moderately light weights and that's what you will eventually get. On the other hand if you want bigger muscles, you need to progressively increase the weight that you lift. If you don't have a trainer or spotting buddy use machines to be safer.

I think it comes down to the food you consume. Try to slowly switch to a cleaner diet. Muscles are are baked in the kitchen

I am wanting bigger muscles... I am confused coz some said that I will need to slim down 1st before I can start my muscles gain, and some just ask me to keep on building muscles... Therefore, I dunno what kind of supplement I should take now as I am not satisfied with my current muscles progress...

With your current stats, I'll say fix your diet first. Read up on nutrition and diet. Then only worry about workout.

This is what happen to most ppl who dun see result after months to years, if u plan to do a half ass diet plan it also means ur result will only be half ass, either I discipline urself or it will take longe ot forever to show result.

You mean doing mass gain need follow diet plan too? And I thought diet is just for slimming down...

if u dun cut lose ur body fat, yes u may have tons of muscle but all covered in fat
simplest explanation would be, looking at pork loin and beef loin, u can compare their texture, both animals are full of muscle but u can see the different between both structures due to the distribution of fat layer around them

This post has been edited by TheEvilMan: Mar 24 2014, 11:19 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what is your goal?

You want to cut to a slimmer figure, or bulk to become bigger than you are currently at?

i read about a few technique on muscle gain, I only remember 2 noticeable one tho:
1) cut/gain : when u cut calories to deficit level while stuff lots of protein to sustain the muscle, popular among ppl these day
2) dirty gain: u stuff any food with high protein, disregard of fat and calories, just to bulk while remaining the fat, something similar to sumo's diet