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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V5!

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Minecrafter
post May 7 2014, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ May 7 2014, 09:42 PM)
Can also consider Antec HCG-620M..seasonic's M12II 620w twin brother..priced cheaper at RM339 brows.gif
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Just checked the review of it on techPowerUp..good alternative! wink.gif nod.gif

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rav3n82
post May 7 2014, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ May 7 2014, 09:42 PM)
Can also consider Antec HCG-620M..seasonic's M12II 620w twin brother..priced cheaper at RM339 brows.gif
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Yes, this is actually an excellent choice as well, since it's based exactly on the same platform as the Seasonic S12/M12. thumbup.gif
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post May 7 2014, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(dannrawr @ May 7 2014, 05:58 PM)
it says min 38, max 64
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Cun temp bro. Mine previously at 81c. Maybe bad airflow. Now new card also 83c. Lol. Either bad airflow, or bad placement for the rig. Need to try Spec-03 like yours too later. biggrin.gif
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post May 7 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 7 2014, 06:19 PM)
That's normal. The temp that would "fry" your GPU is above 90+. If below 90 it's considered normal.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 7 2014, 09:28 PM)
Depends, GPUs normally can take a whole lot more than that. AMD's Hawaii GPU is even designed to run at 95C.
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Lol guys doesn't mean you should. Always try to aim for 80℃ and below for maximum performance. Both nVidia and AMD will start throttling if you regularly keep hitting temp limits.
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post May 7 2014, 11:01 PM

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Anyway, not related issue. I called up MSI Malaysia this morning, asking if the warranty will be void if i re apply thermal paste. According to technician, it will not void the warranty, and the card actually pre install with thermal pad. Not thermal paste. I wonder is there any different.

Now time to find MX-4. Or any other better than MX-4? tongue.gif

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post May 7 2014, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 7 2014, 10:34 PM)
Lol guys doesn't mean you should. Always try to aim for 80℃ and below for maximum performance. Both nVidia and AMD will start throttling if you regularly keep hitting temp limits.
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LOL, I know. biggrin.gif But you read again what was brought up above, running it above 90C will "fry" the GPU. AMD's Hawaii is designed to run at 95C, so does it fry the GPU? And GF100 (GTX 480) can go up to 99 - 100C, and is considered safe temperature by Nvidia. tongue.gif So it all depends actually. Personally, yes I would feel comfortable with a temperature below 80C wherever possible.

Yes, I've once repeated a run of 3 times on Unigine Heaven on a reference 290. The overall FPS (and scores) decrease with each subsequent run. Meaning the GPU is starting to throttle once it starts to reach that temperature threshold. So clear that the lackluster reference cooler couldn't suffice in keeping the hot running core cooled. On the Sapphire Tri-X, it tells a whole different story all together. smile.gif
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post May 7 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(creative zn @ May 7 2014, 11:01 PM)
Anyway, not related issue. I called up MSI Malaysia this morning, asking if the warranty will be void if i re apply thermal paste. According to technician, it will not void the warranty, and the card actually pre install with thermal pad. Not thermal paste. I wonder is there any different.

Now time to find MX-4. Or any other better than MX-4? tongue.gif
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AFAIK, thermal pad is like a piece of thermal conductive tape-like material. You can google for the images. biggrin.gif I don't think it's used for the GPU core. Usually, it's used to cool down the VRM and VRAM.

So far I personally prefer MX-4 due to the ease of application. The viscosity is just about right. Others that I've tried is CM Nano Fusion, which is also all right.
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post May 7 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 7 2014, 11:11 PM)
LOL, I know. biggrin.gif But you read again what was brought up above, running it above 90C will "fry" the GPU. AMD's Hawaii is designed to run at 95C, so does it fry the GPU? And GF100 (GTX 480) can go up to 99 - 100C, and is considered safe temperature by Nvidia. tongue.gif So it all depends actually. Personally, yes I would feel comfortable with a temperature below 80C wherever possible.

Yes, I've once repeated a run of 3 times on Unigine Heaven on a reference 290. The overall FPS (and scores) decrease with each subsequent run. Meaning the GPU is starting to throttle once it starts to reach that temperature threshold. So clear that the lackluster reference cooler couldn't suffice in keeping the hot running core cooled. On the Sapphire Tri-X, it tells a whole different story all together. smile.gif
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Wa, so it can go that hot eh hmm.gif But it's not that safe either right? hmm.gif As more heat output throughout the long period of intensive gaming will surely lessen it's lifespan abit and fry them laugh.gif
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post May 7 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 7 2014, 11:11 PM)
LOL, I know. biggrin.gif But you read again what was brought up above, running it above 90C will "fry" the GPU. AMD's Hawaii is designed to run at 95C, so does it fry the GPU? And GF100 (GTX 480) can go up to 99 - 100C, and is considered safe temperature by Nvidia. tongue.gif So it all depends actually. Personally, yes I would feel comfortable with a temperature below 80C wherever possible.

Yes, I've once repeated a run of 3 times on Unigine Heaven on a reference 290. The overall FPS (and scores) decrease with each subsequent run. Meaning the GPU is starting to throttle once it starts to reach that temperature threshold. So clear that the lackluster reference cooler couldn't suffice in keeping the hot running core cooled. On the Sapphire Tri-X, it tells a whole different story all together. smile.gif
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Deswai go WC. Slash the temps in half. Hehehe.

But I do suppose most non reference cards are design to clock in at 70-80℃ load temps nowadays so there really shouldn't be temp issues.
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post May 7 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 7 2014, 11:20 PM)
Wa, so it can go that hot eh hmm.gif But it's not that safe either right? hmm.gif As more heat output throughout the long period of intensive gaming will surely lessen it's lifespan abit and fry them laugh.gif
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Yes bro. Considered safe by AMD. thumbup.gif
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“Some of you have expressed concerns around acoustics and temperature. As noted in our explanation of the new mechanisms included in PowerTune on the 290 Series, we have designed the 290 Series to operate at a steady state of 95C. By running at 95C, we are both maximizing the performance and minimizing the acoustics of the product. We do this by increasing clocks/voltages and/or reducing the fan speed until the GPU runs at the temperature target. By having the GPU target at lower temperature, you sacrifice either performance or acoustics.

Some of you have expressed concern over the GPU running at 95C. Be assured, that 95C is a perfectly safe temperature at which the GPU can operate for its entire life. There is no technical reason to reduce the target temperature below 95C. However, like all aspects of PowerTune, this is completely within the control of the end user. If you would rather have you GPU operate at a lower temperature, such as 85C or 73C, we strongly encourage you to customize it to your preference and write about it in your review. This is, after all, the reason that we design products with this level of flexibility.” – AMD PR

Read more at http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-r9-...8lCs8AkktygP.99

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post May 7 2014, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 7 2014, 11:23 PM)
Deswai go WC. Slash the temps in half. Hehehe.

But I do suppose most non reference cards are design to clock in at 70-80℃ load temps nowadays so there really shouldn't be temp issues.
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O___O Expensive bro! tongue.gif
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post May 7 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 7 2014, 11:23 PM)
Deswai go WC. Slash the temps in half. Hehehe.

But I do suppose most non reference cards are design to clock in at 70-80℃ load temps nowadays so there really shouldn't be temp issues.
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But water not everyone's cup of tea la. Tedious and damaging at the same time. tongue.gif

Yup, really good ones can even go below 70C. smile.gif
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post May 7 2014, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 7 2014, 11:24 PM)
O___O Expensive bro! tongue.gif
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Go cheap setups one mah. You want? brows.gif

QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 7 2014, 11:28 PM)
But water not everyone's cup of tea la. Tedious and damaging at the same time. tongue.gif

Yup, really good ones can even go below 70C. smile.gif
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True also. Sometimes I wished I went with an aircooled crossfire instead. But oh well, sexy WC parts makes it worth it. tongue.gif

Eh? Serious? I thought most hover at 70-75℃ load temps. Wow.
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post May 7 2014, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 7 2014, 11:35 PM)
True also. Sometimes I wished I went with an aircooled crossfire instead. But oh well, sexy WC parts makes it worth it. tongue.gif

Eh? Serious? I thought most hover at 70-75℃ load temps. Wow.
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Also depending on chips. biggrin.gif Some chips run cooler. Just now I think one of the forumer's GTX 760 Phantom had a load temp of only 64C, I am not sure how is that even possible. Last time my Asus DCUII only managed 68C tops. shocking.gif

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post May 7 2014, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 7 2014, 11:35 PM)
Go cheap setups one mah. You want?  brows.gif
True also. Sometimes I wished I went with an aircooled crossfire instead. But oh well, sexy WC parts makes it worth it.  tongue.gif

Eh? Serious? I thought most hover at 70-75℃ load temps. Wow.
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Air cooling better.. tongue.gif Only on CPU.. ;-;
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post May 7 2014, 11:58 PM

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how about nzxt kraken g10 gpu liquid cooler? any good? biggrin.gif
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post May 8 2014, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(moron88 @ May 7 2014, 11:58 PM)
how about nzxt kraken g10 gpu liquid cooler? any good? biggrin.gif
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Good, but not suitable for monster card like R9 290 without some additional modding.

The VRM need some dedicated heatsink and may be more powerful fan blow.
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post May 8 2014, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ May 7 2014, 06:19 PM)
That's normal. The temp that would "fry" your GPU is above 90+. If below 90 it's considered normal.
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actually i only played dota 2 for that check, other games havent tried yet. before this i do feel the heat if play games such as sleeping dogs
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post May 8 2014, 06:04 AM

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QUOTE(dannrawr @ May 8 2014, 04:35 AM)
actually i only played dota 2 for that check, other games havent tried yet. before this i do feel the heat if play games such as sleeping dogs
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Try Unigine Heaven benchmark. smile.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 8 2014, 06:04 AM)
Try Unigine Heaven benchmark. smile.gif
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alright bro biggrin.gif so far is 79 with saints row 3 haha

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