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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread, discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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TSsoulfly
post Sep 7 2006, 03:28 PM

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i only use normal 2B pencil biggrin.gif

use the circuit writer if you want it permanent
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a lot of people complain or argue about MSI's reliability. only a few of them using it without issues.

QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Sep 7 2006, 09:53 PM)
u sudah mod u mobo tak???
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long time already, i mod straight out of the box! laugh.gif
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DFI Infinity nF-M2 seems to be the best budget overclocking mobo right now, same features with Infinity nF UltraII-M2 except:
- only support SATA, no SATA2
- built-in audio, slightly lower end compare to UltraII-M2
- only one PCI-e 16x slot

everything else pretty much the same I guess... and price is about RM360 if not mistaken...

using normal nForce 4 chipset.
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post Sep 8 2006, 09:48 PM

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the Enquirer always 'bluffing' FYI
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QUOTE(fantasy_kenny @ Sep 9 2006, 03:00 AM)
bro....

juz got the DFI LanParty UT NF590 SLI-M2R oledi..

but i wait my fatboy D9 G.skill HZ on next week...

result will post later....
G.Skill GBHZ does not use fatbody D9, only D9GMH. The GBGA uses D9GKX.
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that's weird. coz older version GBHZ uses Elpida, and newer ones use D9GMH.

D9GMH/D9GKX can also do 3-3-3 DDR2-900 with high voltage

at what voltage it runs 3-3-3 DDR2-900?
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post Sep 9 2006, 08:33 PM

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regarding cpu/dram divider, please refer to the table on the 1st page... it's pretty much straightforward

p/s: the ram divider value not only depends on clockspeed, but cpu multi as well
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i couldn't really explain, just refer to the table... those values are fixed.

When using different cpu multiplier, the divider, x (where DDR speed is CPU/x) is different. I think this is already set inside the memory controller.

in other means, x value of DDR2-800 is not the same when u use 10x compare to 9x multi

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Come on lah guys... where are your overclocking results? Chatting like this wont get us anywhere lah.
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post Sep 11 2006, 10:37 AM

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I'm doing more than 300mhz HTT with default chipset voltage

you only need to increase the chipset voltage if you find that instability with usb devices, on-board sound or 3d application.

if it's just your cpu instability, just increase vcore.
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QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Sep 11 2006, 03:03 PM)
bang cepat oc u punya Team ram...
want see u new super PI result laugh.gif  laugh.gif
i guna value ram boleh kalah awak brows.gifbrows.gif
u got higher clockspeed than mine, that explains it. not because of value ram or performance ram.

by the way.... i cannot do anything right now since i don't have my graphics card. i'm online with my dad's laptop or my sis' pc. my computer is lying unused.

p/s: u lead me by 100mhz on cpu clockspeed, but yet the difference is only 0.033s brows.gif

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QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Sep 11 2006, 05:23 PM)
will do it when i get my Gskill BHZ and FSP 600W PSU brows.gif

u want buy my GC tak laugh.gif
tak nak! i still love my galaxy 7300gt and waiting for it to come back from RMA tongue.gif

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In certain situation, overclocked cpu with CnQ enabled will lead to instability... since it affects DDR2 speed.

QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 11 2006, 07:10 PM)
Soulfly, care to attach the graph u made? I can't find it.
The graph where u stated clockspeed vs vcore biggrin.gif
user posted image

For different cpu OC potential, just shift the graph further to the right or to the left on the x-axis. The graph curve should be pretty much the same for other AM2 I guess. With some more proper burn-in, I think the graph can do almost very linear.

Can anybody else come up with the same graph to support or confirm my little experiment? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Sep 12 2006, 09:38 PM)
bro care to explain wat is burn in?will it help oc?
it depends on luck... some cpu can overclock higher after a good burn-in process... but some does not give any gain at all.
QUOTE(syarat @ Sep 12 2006, 08:47 PM)
is it legal for me to ask for download link for super pi?
tried the homepage and rapidshare but doesnt to work,maybe i am behind uni's firewall.
SuperPi can be freely distributed

here...



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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Sep 12 2006, 10:04 PM)
Just got the Biostar TForce 6100-AM2 today.
Will post OC results next week...(this week play with C2D first) tongue.gif
Anyways, how are you guys with 6100-AM2 board doing? Any nice overclocks yet?
I might get a X2 3800+ soon... anyone wanna sell theirs and upgrade to C2D? tongue.gif
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bro... do u have any extra SLI bridge laying around?
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QUOTE(perswis @ Sep 13 2006, 08:37 AM)
If i'm not mistaken, t550 has a jumper that let you change the voltage to 2.3v. However, you cannot adjust the voltage in BIOS. You stuck with 2.3v only. Therefore, it's a good practice for you to try to OC you ram untill 2.1v and see what is your result first. If 2.1v is not enough and there's more headroom, then 2.3v.
It's actually 2.2V via jumper. But you can always do the pencil mod (check hard modding section for guide)

QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Sep 13 2006, 08:14 AM)
just got my AM2 few days ago
AMD athlon 3000+ at 1.81ghz
MSI K9NU Neo
Corsair 1GB DDR667
Sollers 460W PSU
AMD original heatsink

i didn't OC however
can i join this club?
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QUOTE(koie @ Sep 13 2006, 11:41 AM)
now im using mini typhoon...can u update for me?...hehe...
QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 13 2006, 02:09 PM)
Add me to the list smile.gif

AM2 X2 3600+ | Biostar TF550 | Apacer DDR2-667 | stock cooler

AM2 3000+ | Biostar TF6100-AM2 | Apacer DDR2-667 | stock cooler
will oc the X2 later biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Sep 13 2006, 02:12 PM)
me
AMD Athlon 64 3000 AM2 @ 2.03 only, dare not OC much
MSI K9NU Nvidia/ULi M7
2 x KVR 512 MB DDR2 667
stock cooler

I cant start windows at HTT = 266, even at 250mhz also not stable alrdy
for those using this mobo, must it raise the chipset voltage to OC properly?
more details... voltage? htt multi? ram divider/voltage?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Sep 13 2006, 04:10 PM)
@soulfly,
I am using default Vcore for both CPU and chipset, I didnt use RAM divider as I have no idea on how the settings should be, I just set it to auto SPD or 667MHz, I read a review earlier that this mobo have to raise the chipset volt. to perform stable on >250MHz FSB

and the HTT multiplier?? Dunno about that, just set it to 800MHz rclxub.gif
I'm not familiar with your BIOS parameters but I assume that it uses MHz value for the HTT multi, ie: 1000MHz = 5x, 800MHz = 4x, 600MHz = 3x, 400MHz = 2x, 200MHz = 1x

Hypertransport speed should always be around 1000MHz or less (in certain cases, slightly high will not harm as well). So, with 250MHz FSB, the ideal multiplier should be 4x which is 800MHz value in your case.

If you are not sure whether your RAM will limit your overclocking, set the DDR2 on divider. For the values, please refer to 1st page for the table. Don't ask why is it like that... it's meant to be like that.

If you cannot prime or cannot rum SuperPi, that means either your RAM or cpu not stable... add more voltage.

Chipset voltage increament wont help cpu or ram overclocking... it's not the same as Intel or AMD socket A.
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Sep 14 2006, 04:15 AM)
can original AMD HSF for AM2 stand of OC?
the computer dealer in lowyat told me that it can if i OC
as long as i change my PSU
he is right, but he is wrong as well.

Here's my explanation.

AMD stock heatsink is good, but to a certain extent. The heatsink is a full aluminium block, it wont be that good in absorbing heat compare to copper or aftermarket copper heatsinks. With higher voltage and higher clockspeed, a good aftermarket heatsink is a must. My cpu goes up to 61'C - 62'C on stock heatsink when I'm running 2.8GHz at 1.55V, that is why I have not try to improve my overclocking yet.

To make it short, we need good heatsink to make sure the cpu temp does not exceed its limit. High temp limits maximum overclocking.

Not changing psu doesn't mean that you cannot overclock. You can still overclock but there are 2 main circumstances you will face with normal psu or cheap cap ayam psu (that includes Power Logic or iCute or those CHEAP fancy brands):
- system instability because of psu not providing clean voltage output
- not being able to reach maximum overclocking

... or in worse cases, you got the PSU blown.

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Dude...was that BIOS set or overclock with ClockGen?

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