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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V7, 4.4.4 Rolling out for Xperia Z1!!!

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post Apr 29 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(carpathia @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
i just installed a glass screen to protect the Z1 today....costs me RM40.... now kinda regret cos its a fingerprint magnet
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what brand u using?
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:00 PM

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didnt see the packaging when they installed....when my friend beli at low yat, i also hand itchy and install also
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Apr 29 2014, 05:25 PM)
what brand u using?
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QUOTE(carpathia @ Apr 29 2014, 06:00 PM)
didnt see the packaging when they installed....when my friend beli at low yat, i also hand itchy and install also
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Should be nilkin. cos Im using one now~ madness fingerprint sweat.gif sweat.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(carpathia @ Apr 29 2014, 06:00 PM)
didnt see the packaging when they installed....when my friend beli at low yat, i also hand itchy and install also
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Hmmm I tot every glass screen protector repels dust, water, dirt and fingerprint? And at the same time retaining the HD view and smoothness in touching the screen.

At least that's what my glass sp does and I am loving it 😆
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(freddyngch @ Apr 29 2014, 06:36 PM)
Hmmm I tot every glass screen protector repels dust, water, dirt and fingerprint? And at the same time retaining the HD view and smoothness in touching the screen.

At least that's what my glass sp does and I am loving it 😆
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Damn. which brand is it ? when i tested it in the shop, i dont see any fingerprint at all but after install, different story
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post Apr 29 2014, 10:01 PM

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The guy gave me a brand-less one I think :/ the packaging only states the name 'Glass' lol.

Luckily I have no issues with this glass sp.

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post Apr 29 2014, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(freddyngch @ Apr 29 2014, 10:01 PM)
The guy gave me a brand-less one I think :/ the packaging only states the name 'Glass' lol.

Luckily I have no issues with this glass sp.
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For me, it's better to buy cheap glass SP than expensive one. At least not heartache when it smashed or change to new one.
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post Apr 29 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Apr 29 2014, 10:07 PM)
For me, it's better to buy cheap glass SP than expensive one. At least not heartache when it smashed or change to new one.
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actually i think tats just the bad experience with nilkin, it's supposed to be slightly better than brandless (even with the clear/matte type) but still not as good as Benks screen protector

even nilkin backcase is rough as well. used to like Rock backcase but these days they keep coming out with gaudy colors blink.gif

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QUOTE(derravile @ Apr 29 2014, 02:55 PM)
been using the smartband for bout 2 weeks, initially alway gets disconnected even at close range

after the update, it seems better but still get disconnect sometimes

i am only wondering how it can track calories burn and running and walking time

in a day sure walk for than 30mins, however my daily walking time is only like 10mins?

pedometer is also not always up to date might require a few refresh before showing up
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Yes the disconnect problem is kinda weird as I experience the same problem as well ... Very randomly it will get disconnected but easily connected back by touching it to the phone with NFC .... Lesser on the new firmware

Updates are happening without any problems for me... But you must remember that it will only update when you open up the lifelog app ... It will not update in the background .

The pedometer count of steps are pretty accurate for me ... Especially comparing the step count on the fitbit and the smartband ... And I believe they track the walk/run based on how violently you move your arm since walking is normally slower pace compared to running

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i am using nilkin glass sp. so far satisfied with it. not to say fingerprint-proof, but fingerprint resistant and it's much easier to wipe off any fingerprint.
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QUOTE(sookk @ Apr 30 2014, 07:16 AM)
Yes the disconnect problem is kinda weird as I experience the same problem as well ... Very randomly it will get disconnected but easily connected back by touching it to the phone with NFC .... Lesser on the new firmware

Updates are happening without any problems for me... But you must remember that it will only update when you open up the lifelog app ... It will not update in the background .

The pedometer count of steps are pretty accurate for me ... Especially comparing the step count on the fitbit and the smartband ... And I believe they track the walk/run based on how violently you move your arm since walking is normally slower pace compared to running
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So I bought one for RM309, hopefully arrive by next week. Would the disconnect pose any problems to accuracy, or the core stores all data until it syncs with Lifelog?
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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Apr 30 2014, 09:57 AM)
So I bought one for RM309, hopefully arrive by next week. Would the disconnect pose any problems to accuracy, or the core stores all data until it syncs with Lifelog?
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That's a good deal ... where you got that from?

Even if it gets disconnected, its not a problem. Remember that the SmartBand stores data offline (not connected to phone) for up to 2 weeks before it starts over-writing older data.
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QUOTE(sookk @ Apr 30 2014, 07:16 AM)
Yes the disconnect problem is kinda weird as I experience the same problem as well ... Very randomly it will get disconnected but easily connected back by touching it to the phone with NFC .... Lesser on the new firmware

Updates are happening without any problems for me... But you must remember that it will only update when you open up the lifelog app ... It will not update in the background .

The pedometer count of steps are pretty accurate for me ... Especially comparing the step count on the fitbit and the smartband ... And I believe they track the walk/run based on how violently you move your arm since walking is normally slower pace compared to running
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hmmm thanks for the tips regarding the running/walking thing, i nvr actually own any pedometer before, it is normal for it to always not show its latest stepcounts?

any idea how it decides light and deep sleep as well? seems totally random to me
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QUOTE(derravile @ Apr 30 2014, 10:43 AM)
hmmm thanks for the tips regarding the running/walking thing, i nvr actually own any pedometer before, it is normal for it to always not show its latest stepcounts?

any idea how it decides light and deep sleep as well? seems totally random to me
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Most pedometers function on the basis of 3-axis accelerometer to detect motion of your arm (or depends on where you wear the device). Some devices like the FitBit Force (which has stopped selling due to irritation of skin of the users due to their rubber strap) has built in altimeter as well (to detect going up and down stairs).

You can read more about the 3-axis accelerometer at FitBit website (most pedometer work the same way):
https://help.fitbit.com/customer/portal/art...er-count-steps-

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So as you can see .. it's not foolproof in the way it detects a step. You can be sitting down on the chair and swinging your arms ... it might still be counted as steps. The count is only an estimate of the actual steps you take in a day .. don't be too judgemental on the step count (just as a guideline) since it is said that you need to walk 10k steps a day to be healthy

As for the sleep tracker of light and deep sleep ... no idea how it works. Probably how much you move around during sleep. The problem is that Sony website has a whitepaper on the SmartBand SWR10 (http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/swr10/whitepaper_swr10_smartbandswr10.pdf) but the whitepaper doesn't contain any technical information on how the device track steps and sleep....

I also tried checking their developer website: http://developer.sonymobile.com/ ... no help there as well....

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QUOTE(sookk @ Apr 30 2014, 10:02 AM)
That's a good deal ... where you got that from?

Even if it gets disconnected, its not a problem. Remember that the SmartBand stores data offline (not connected to phone) for up to 2 weeks before it starts over-writing older data.
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Superbuy actually. Now it's priced at RM339.
http://www.superbuy.my/shop/sony-smartwear...rranty/p/242194


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QUOTE(sookk @ Apr 30 2014, 11:15 AM)
Most pedometers function on the basis of 3-axis accelerometer to detect motion of your arm (or depends on where you wear the device). Some devices like the FitBit Force (which has stopped selling due to irritation of skin of the users due to their rubber strap) has built in altimeter as well (to detect going up and down stairs).

You can read more about the 3-axis accelerometer at FitBit website (most pedometer work the same way):
https://help.fitbit.com/customer/portal/art...er-count-steps-

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


So as you can see .. it's not foolproof in the way it detects a step. You can be sitting down on the chair and swinging your arms ... it might still be counted as steps. The count is only an estimate of the actual steps you take in a day .. don't be too judgemental on the step count (just as a guideline) since it is said that you need to walk 10k steps a day to be healthy

As for the sleep tracker of light and deep sleep ... no idea how it works. Probably how much you move around during sleep. The problem is that Sony website has a whitepaper on the SmartBand SWR10 (http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/swr10/whitepaper_swr10_smartbandswr10.pdf) but the whitepaper doesn't contain any technical information on how the device track steps and sleep....

I also tried checking their developer website: http://developer.sonymobile.com/ ... no help there as well....
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thanks again for the explanation, just check my log, i layed my smartband just on the desk for a full night, 8 hours of deep sleep, i guess it track the movements u make during sleeping

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QUOTE(cheebc @ Apr 25 2014, 05:17 PM)
did any1 successfully installed camera apps ported from Z2 (portrait retouch, 4k video, timeshift) ? after installing the them, whenever I try to open it crash.

edit: after several tries both my cameras mulfuction, damn, after flashing back to stock +factory reset, main camera fix but front camera still cannot function. DONT TRY IT.
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imo.... i think u just broke the TA partition. did you back it up ? try restoring the TA partition as well
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long time no post here. i'll start off with some complaint for 4.4, i believe most people also same problem as me

- camera slow to launch (i heard this is general kitkat problem, nothing to do with sony fw)
- camera might crash after several shots, error msg : camera not available
- sometimes i press back key to exit an app, camera will launch, then close again (i think this is problem with fb app, bcoz i din experience it with other app)
- sometimes phone just randomly hang and reboot

other than that the fw still considered ok to me. smooth, and the camera quality seems got improvement over previous fw.


btw those using SW2, there's new fw available as well. you can edit watch faces yourself now

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The widgets that you can add to the SmartWatch is a great addition ... hopefully we will see more apps making use of the customizable watch face ...

Recently the Walkman Extension have been added ...
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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Apr 30 2014, 12:54 PM)
Superbuy actually. Now it's priced at RM339.
http://www.superbuy.my/shop/sony-smartwear...rranty/p/242194
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Found a cheaper source on Lelong ... RM 309 and 299 also have .... making this one of the cheaper activity tracker on the market compared to Fitbit and UP (and definitely Nike)

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