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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V7, 4.4.4 Rolling out for Xperia Z1!!!

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post Apr 28 2014, 12:48 AM

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After a long time of absence from the forum ... am back with the SmartBand SWR10

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Early feedback (been using it for about a week now):

- initial firmware sucks .... the device kept disconnecting from the phone
- new firmware launched on 25 April fixed most problems and also added an auto night mode

So what happens is that you need to download a software called "LifeLog" which allow you to track all sort of stuff:

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Things like steps, where you been before, the weather, how much time you spent on entertainment, music, photos, etc.

As a step counter, it works as advertised. But it does more than just that... you are basically recording your entire life in this software which probably brings up the next point... how safe is your data? I'm not too sure since the software sync all these info back to Sony Network (you can actually restore all your data after a hard reset).
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post Apr 28 2014, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(psyeo @ Apr 28 2014, 01:07 AM)
I wonder if this will work together with pebble smart watch..
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It doesn't even work together with the Sony SmartWatch yet ... something which I have suggested to Sony is that we should be able to use the SmartWatch as the display based on information captured by SmartBand (such as step counter,life bookmark, etc.) since the SmartBand itself doesn't have any display (unlike the Fitbit Flex/Force)

Hopefully we see an app for the SmartWatch soon ....
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post Apr 29 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(psyeo @ Apr 29 2014, 09:54 AM)
No, what  meant is, will I be able to connect to both Pebble and swr10? And sometimes I'll connect my phone to mdr-1rbt as well.. So make  it 3 bluetooth devices concurrently connect  Z1, I have no problem with pebble + mdr -1rbt atm.. Not too sure about adding swr 10 into the mix
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Ahhh .... understand what you mean. No problems with it. I'm using the SmartWatch SW2, MDR-10RBT and the SmartBand at the same time as well ... no issues

However, there seems to be some ad hoc disconnection that I am facing with the SmartBand at the moment (it was worst in the previous firmware) ... working with Sony Support to iron out these teething problems

Also, some bugs found are that the notification (apart from smart alarm and the phone calls) ... they aren't working at the moment
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post Apr 29 2014, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Apr 28 2014, 11:09 AM)
How accurate is it? How intuitive is the sleep tracker?
Planning to get one soon. Was looking into Jawbone or Fitbit earlier
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It's as accurate as any Fitbit Flex/Force and Jawbone. I used to own the Fitbit Flex .... the rubber strap on the SmartBand is actually more comfortable compared to the Fitbit .... furthermore the Force/Flex band causes skin irritation for certain users (not sure about the Sony .... but so far I'm ok).

Do remember that the SmartBand doesn't have any display (the Force and Flex does show you info on the band itself) ... and the Jawbone UP24 has longer battery life (SmartBand rated for 5 days). 30 minutes of charge will bring the band up to full 100%. The lovely thing about Sony products (apart from being waterproof with IP58 rating) is that you only need to carry your micro USB cable around. You can power up your headphones, phone, Smartband, smartwatch ... all the same cable
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post Apr 29 2014, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Apr 29 2014, 01:36 PM)
Thanks! That's the deal tipper I'm waiting for. I don't mind the fact there's no display. I'm actually looking for something to wear and forget about while getting proper tracking.
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Also, the SmartBand is capable of storing 2 weeks of data if you don't sync with your phone. The LifeLog software from Sony also collects damn a lot of info (too much infact). Unlike the UP and Fitbit product, the SmartBand uses both your phone and SmartBand for central repository of what you do daily (hence the app name LifeLog).

You will be able to see where you go to daily (via Location Service), what you do on daily basis (play games, listen to music, take photos, communicate, browse internet, etc.), steps you take, calories burn, how much time spent sleeping, how much time walking, running, driving and cycling (driving and cycling coming soon).

You can also add life bookmarks .... something interesting happened to you ... double press the button on the SmartBand and record that moment in LifeLog.

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post Apr 30 2014, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(derravile @ Apr 29 2014, 02:55 PM)
been using the smartband for bout 2 weeks, initially alway gets disconnected even at close range

after the update, it seems better but still get disconnect sometimes

i am only wondering how it can track calories burn and running and walking time

in a day sure walk for than 30mins, however my daily walking time is only like 10mins?

pedometer is also not always up to date might require a few refresh before showing up
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Yes the disconnect problem is kinda weird as I experience the same problem as well ... Very randomly it will get disconnected but easily connected back by touching it to the phone with NFC .... Lesser on the new firmware

Updates are happening without any problems for me... But you must remember that it will only update when you open up the lifelog app ... It will not update in the background .

The pedometer count of steps are pretty accurate for me ... Especially comparing the step count on the fitbit and the smartband ... And I believe they track the walk/run based on how violently you move your arm since walking is normally slower pace compared to running

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post Apr 30 2014, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Apr 30 2014, 09:57 AM)
So I bought one for RM309, hopefully arrive by next week. Would the disconnect pose any problems to accuracy, or the core stores all data until it syncs with Lifelog?
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That's a good deal ... where you got that from?

Even if it gets disconnected, its not a problem. Remember that the SmartBand stores data offline (not connected to phone) for up to 2 weeks before it starts over-writing older data.
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post Apr 30 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(derravile @ Apr 30 2014, 10:43 AM)
hmmm thanks for the tips regarding the running/walking thing, i nvr actually own any pedometer before, it is normal for it to always not show its latest stepcounts?

any idea how it decides light and deep sleep as well? seems totally random to me
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Most pedometers function on the basis of 3-axis accelerometer to detect motion of your arm (or depends on where you wear the device). Some devices like the FitBit Force (which has stopped selling due to irritation of skin of the users due to their rubber strap) has built in altimeter as well (to detect going up and down stairs).

You can read more about the 3-axis accelerometer at FitBit website (most pedometer work the same way):
https://help.fitbit.com/customer/portal/art...er-count-steps-

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So as you can see .. it's not foolproof in the way it detects a step. You can be sitting down on the chair and swinging your arms ... it might still be counted as steps. The count is only an estimate of the actual steps you take in a day .. don't be too judgemental on the step count (just as a guideline) since it is said that you need to walk 10k steps a day to be healthy

As for the sleep tracker of light and deep sleep ... no idea how it works. Probably how much you move around during sleep. The problem is that Sony website has a whitepaper on the SmartBand SWR10 (http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/swr10/whitepaper_swr10_smartbandswr10.pdf) but the whitepaper doesn't contain any technical information on how the device track steps and sleep....

I also tried checking their developer website: http://developer.sonymobile.com/ ... no help there as well....

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post Apr 30 2014, 02:04 PM

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The widgets that you can add to the SmartWatch is a great addition ... hopefully we will see more apps making use of the customizable watch face ...

Recently the Walkman Extension have been added ...
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post Apr 30 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Apr 30 2014, 12:54 PM)
Superbuy actually. Now it's priced at RM339.
http://www.superbuy.my/shop/sony-smartwear...rranty/p/242194
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Found a cheaper source on Lelong ... RM 309 and 299 also have .... making this one of the cheaper activity tracker on the market compared to Fitbit and UP (and definitely Nike)
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post Apr 30 2014, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(carpathia @ Apr 30 2014, 03:06 PM)
Sony Smartband - seems like the functions are quite similar to the jawbone but for android. i cant seem to justify why i need this. appreciate current and potential owners to share their point of view

Glass SP - thanks for all the input guys. What brand should i get for my galaxy note 2 ? nillkin ?
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Well .. It's just an activity tracker just like the jawbone, fitbit and Nike fuelband ... Nothing special ... If you don't need those then you don't need the smartband ...
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ May 1 2014, 02:30 AM)
The price is dropping already since the announcement of Z2

I saw my friend's Nexus 5 spigen casing, it's really nice...too bad they don't have it for the Z1  sad.gif
Has anyone seen that casing before? Do you know of any nice alternatives?

Kinda got bored with the nilkin one that I'm having now.
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There is a spigen case for z2 ... Time to upgrade to new phone? Hehehe .....

Anyway ... The z1 is so beutifully designed ... Why hide it in a case?

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post May 6 2014, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ May 6 2014, 12:53 AM)
i have a feeling my vibrator motor in the phone is dying on me soon
it's starting to make some weird squeaking sound when vibrating

anyone know how long does it take to get this fixed/replaced?
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Used the vibrator too much ? tongue.gif tongue.gif

Bring it to Sony for inspection. Most of the time it will take about a week for repairs. You probably need to hassle them for a courtesy phone to use whilst waiting.

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