performance wise,if u can handle the clutch well,the bike will perform better on acceleration..fuel consumption,negligible,not much differ
on the left hand side,ES u will see the clutch lever, SS no clutch lever
Foot rest and gear shifter also different..and the way u shift gear also different

Rider FootRest
- ES come with spring and fold-able (in event of bike lean to low or dropped)
- SS fixed

Gear Shifter
-ES gear shifter is only one sided (front only,like the big bikes one) and rubberized
-SS gear shifter have front and rear..like ex5..

Gear Shifting
-ES gear shifting down to 1st gear..then u pull it up to 2-3-4
-SS all down 1-2-3-4

The ES v2 is 5 speed version, with diaphragm carb. All others use round slide carb with accelerator pump. Empirical data suggests diaphragm carb is more fuel efficient, mainly because of the accelerator pump on the round slide carb.

ES v2 has wider rims and rear disc brake.

thanks for the advice...i have no idea at all about these..
can give any advice which model to get?
currently what price?
today i asked motor shop, got clutch 7k, no clutch 6.6k...
which i duno which model is that by that time...

so, ES is more expensive due to got clutch? that's all? or got other accessories?

i only start to dig info about LC135 cause gonna change to bigger CC motor...currently rempit on kapcai ex5...

definitely duno what is diaphragm carb...
but as serigala said, fuel consumption wise is negligible...u agree on that?

i believe data sheets are just wording game...still come down to real user...
need to get one bigger CC bike...now only start to do some homework, surveying price...

hye guys, im newbie here..
i have use my 135lc for 3 1/2 years, the only service i done in this 3 1/2 years is minyak hitam, plug, oil filter, spoket rantai, air coolant but not in proper time as stated by you guys,
now top and pickup is decrease also it performance, what should i do to increase my beloved 135lc??

any question just hit me with it

Fuel consumption is subjective. Let me ask you this: Any difference between 120km per tank, vs 130km per tank?
- To some, it is negligible, but to me, it is 7.7% difference, which is huge.
- In my opinion, when such a difference happen, it is time for me to service my carburator.

Fuel consumption higher on accelerator pumps is not *just* numbers, it's a fact - petrol is directly injected into the carb venturi.

A short read (from facebook, not so technical) on carb comparison here: https://es-la.facebook.com/motomalaya/posts/164391890282940

Welcome, wady89.

When you say 'decrease' and 'increase', preferably if you can be more specific. Example:
- It takes 0.5s more to accelerate third gear from 80-100kmh.
- Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh.

As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service?
What EO do you use?
What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out?

This post has been edited by alexei: Mar 5 2014, 10:25 AM

"Topspeed on the same highway reduced to 110kmh, where it used to be 125kmh"- agreed on this statement

As for your service routine, have you done the carb and air filter service?
err..i believe i never done this before


What EO do you use?
motul 5100 10w40 before, last EO is Castrol power1 racing 10w40


What does your spark plug look like when the old one is taken out?
i forgot about this, maybe i go check today

i just know basic of service sry

Get the carb cleaned up, and notice how the different engine response when cold vs hot.
It should be difficult to start, sometimes need choke when early in the morning and the bike is cold.
When engine is hot, it should be easy to restart.

okie dokie..thx, how about the air filter?

any more suggestion?
my rear tyre need to change, so any suggestion in term of type or brand suitable?
now i`m using 90/80 duro

This post has been edited by wady89: Mar 5 2014, 11:34 AM

https://motomalaya.net/blog/2011/04/24/2011...nd-differences/

just read about the link above.
u guys that have been riding LC135 here got anything/any additional info to add?

pros and cons between these two?

Standard air filter, just air gun clean it.
That tyre is fine, IMO.

how is normally workshop will charge for carb cleaning?

how about size? what is the different?

I don't know anymore, I clean it myself.
Maybe RM15~20.

Best use standard size, 70/90 front, 80/90 rear. 90/80 rear also ok.

thank you,

how about little mod to increase top or pickup??

Yeah, the bellypan

I want to ask,

What's is the difference of 10-40w and 20-50w EO on lc, in terms of performance,

I'm thinking of buying the brt cdi, does it would be harmful to std engine?

About the carburetor setting, I've red somewhere said that you can increase pickup by tweaking the carb jet, though i don't what do you call of for that setting, so could somebody explain about this please?

Thanks

This post has been edited by MrBushido25: Mar 5 2014, 05:28 PM

for me std tyre is quite small for someone like me (109kg). what size do u think suitable and fits with stock sport rim?

Its typical for most bike to decline in perf as time pass, as a std bike user myself, I regularly change my EO every 2000 or 1500 km mileage, you know just for guaranteed maintainance, it also depends on what EO you used as well, ask opinions of what's the best from pomen, I myself use maxoil, most people recommends jtx,shell vsx depends on your budget too though, if significant perf reduction hapens , you might wanna get your bike for some checkup, apart from these advice I got none, maybe you wanna hook up a new cdi

This post has been edited by MrBushido25: Mar 5 2014, 05:39 PM

I used front tire 80/90 and rear is kinda big, I forgot the size, its the v2 ES tyre, by duro, I got it from a bike shop in kuantan, it has the original Yamaha package on it, its a big and nice tyre, you might wanna check it out

This post has been edited by MrBushido25: Mar 5 2014, 05:44 PM