what's the point of this thread???

Heard Unisem paid quite well many year back. Very big and advance factory in Ipoh producing semiconductor. Now I am no sure, but they are making losses.

If Unisem, YTL, Hong Leong group are also Chinaman companies, then there is a lots of chinaman companies in Malaysia.

Can go to Bursa website to look for the listing.

To ask ppl here don't join the chinaman companies?

Simple,
To let people know the background of a company before they join.
And Not to ask people not to join.
It's to let them have a prepared mentality of roughly what they would face in their coming job.
That is the purpose

M@l@y@n Flour Mill

This post has been edited by fussylogic: Feb 28 2014, 09:17 AM

BDO Malaysia.

Now i know audit firms tend to squeeze their staff quite alot, but i never had issues with the hours, it was more about the mentality. Ive been in audit for quite some time and spent a couple of years there, all i have to say is aduiii!!. Regretted going in to work every morning.

thanks !





added.

Yeah, audit firms are well known to do so.
Working in big 4 even more so. Like one of me fren
But when it comes with high salary, expected workload higher lo.
if the office environment okay, and got conpensation as in OT claim or sumthing similar, then is not really Chinaman la.
But , like u mentioned, it's always about the mentality.

"With Great Powers, Comes Great Responsibility
With Great Salary, Comes High Workload"

This post has been edited by badkid: Feb 28 2014, 09:40 AM

The term Chinaman company does sound a bit insulting though. Like you want to downgrade Chinese owned companies compared with western MNC, which means higher standard?

The problem here is not whether it is chinaman or not, actually it is SME or not SME.... In Malaysia, most SME's bosses are Chinese. Most of the SMEs in the world operate almost like "Chinaman" company here due to smaller scale capital and operation.

Next time if we (Chinese) set up a company in Malaysia for doing business, then it will be termed as "chinaman" company by whoever worked under us.

Actually you're both right.
The term Chinaman company is very demeaning and a tad insulting.
And always, often, we always compare with western MNC in term of these criteria of comparisons.

that's why, we have to set a clear definition of 'chinaman' as defined in my first post. and MYTH sections that bunks every other things.

'chinaman' here is clearly a certain mentality.
Even japanese management company also have these mentality.
You havnt worked for Indiaman company yet. also another kind of mentality.

That's why, 'chinaman company' now is no longer a term exclusive just for chinese.
BUT, it's a term that actually describing a certain type of management or mentality that plague people in general, impartially


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A family run business with extensive tie with pek moh...in sarawak major government construction project is run by them..plantation don't say laa...

This thread only about chinaman company...no melayu company? indian company? Kadazan company? Iban company?

or is it chinese ppl only know how to make business

actually.... no... it's not just about chinaman company.
it's just that chinaman company is the most common around, that actually people feel the 'stingy' mentality.
Again, it's the mentlity/culture of management; not the race running the business.

supermax glove manufacturing.
no bonus for less than 2 year service.
expect multitasking.
14 days annual leave.
alternate sat until 1.30pm.

I still think Chinaman company must be run by the Chinese. Otherwise, how can we called it "Chinaman"?

Indiaman company run by the Indian boss to certain extend same as chinaman company, but those are still India man company.

This post has been edited by KOHTT: Feb 28 2014, 10:56 PM

i see.. added..
haha.. 14 days annual leave is standard..
mine, only 12 days annual..

well, for my perspective this 'chinaman' doesnt necessarily must be chinese. well, as u said, indiaman also to a certain point also like chinaman.
it's becomes a cliche thing already.
like as in China people dont refer Malaysian Chinese as 马来西亚华人 (Malaysian Chinese) but refer Malaysian Chinese as 马来人 (Malays ) already. So, all ethnics no matter u what race, for outside people, we are just One race (One Nationality) iaitu = Malaysian (马来人) as how my Guangzhou said to his parents =.=

so, it is suitable, to be generally, to describe a mentality/culture impartially of race.
the term started is just because china-man are the one who behave this way first, like pioneer of the trend, thus started the label lo.
like u call people samseng.. doesnt matter chinaise, malay, or indian bad guys, all also call them as Samseng.

just for argument sake la.

This post has been edited by badkid: Mar 1 2014, 01:31 AM

Anyone got anymore to add?
Haha.. currently, this is my 2nd job.
and i jumped from one Chinaman company to another.. lolz

I would say all but some (not naming it specifically ) Berjaya Group of Companies.

Saii lohhh Saiii loohhh

I had gone to Mazda's Head Office (One of the Berjaya Group Subsidiary) for interview way back to 3 years ago.

They give 3 bonuses depending whether they achieve the sales target or not....+ a Mazda car for higher level Managerial Staff.

BerjAya.. really arr.. i thought better woh..

Haha.. mayb it's founded by businessmen bornt before the 80s.. thats why it's like that punya style lo..

Old people old ways of doing things..