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post Feb 20 2014, 10:22 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hi all,

I have a question here. Hope you guys can shed some light on this matter.

For those who are taking MSc, MPhil, PhD (all by research), do you have to go through a candidacy? A preliminary presentation in order for you to be confirmed as a candidate for the university?

If no, then it's alright.

If yes, before your candidacy presentation, do you guys actually circulate your full candidacy proposal to everyone (e.g all academics in the school) before your presentation or only the abstract?


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post Feb 20 2014, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 20 2014, 10:22 PM)
For those who are taking MSc, MPhil, PhD (all by research), do you have to go through a candidacy? A preliminary presentation in order for you to be confirmed as a candidate for the university?
The process of applying for candidacy is to develop a proposal for your research program (to be endorsed by your supervisor) and submit it to the Faculty of Graduate Studies. Once your proposal is approved, your candidacy for the research degree is confirmed.

What's your issue? What are the institutions?
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post Feb 21 2014, 06:29 AM

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does ts have a supervisor yet, or is looking for one?
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Feb 20 2014, 11:12 PM)
The process of applying for candidacy is to develop a proposal for your research program (to be endorsed by your supervisor) and submit it to the Faculty of Graduate Studies. Once your proposal is approved, your candidacy for the research degree is confirmed.

What's your issue? What are the institutions?
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My issue is, apparently someone in my faculty says that the students' candidacy proposal has to be circulated to everyone in the whole school before candidacy presentation can be made.

Is this right? or is it wrong?
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(dkk @ Feb 21 2014, 06:29 AM)
does ts have a supervisor yet, or is looking for one?
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I have a supervisor already.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 21 2014, 10:32 PM)
My issue is, apparently someone in my faculty says that the students' candidacy proposal has to be circulated to everyone in the whole school before candidacy presentation can be made.

Is this right? or is it wrong?
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Which university are you in?

Everyone as in all students + lecturers or all lecturers only?
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 21 2014, 11:06 PM)
Which university are you in?

Everyone as in all students + lecturers or all lecturers only?
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uni cannot say >< P&C.
ALL lecturers. ohmy.gif
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post Feb 23 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 21 2014, 11:18 PM)
uni cannot say >< P&C.
ALL lecturers.  ohmy.gif
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Why cannot mention the uni? hmm.gif

Anyway, for UM, you would need to do a seminar presentation within the first two semester (or fourth for PhD), which is basically a proposal defense. You will need to prepare a short report containing literature reviews, methodology, up-to-date results and submit to the office. The officer would then circulate internal e-mail to everyone in the university to invite them to attend the presentation. The e-mail would only contain the candidate's name, student ID, topic of research, and (sometimes) a short description or abstract.

I think this what someone from your faculty meant.
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post Feb 24 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(PseudoGene @ Feb 23 2014, 10:09 PM)
Why cannot mention the uni?  hmm.gif

Anyway, for UM, you would need to do a seminar presentation within the first two semester (or fourth for PhD), which is basically a proposal defense. You will need to prepare a short report containing literature reviews, methodology, up-to-date results and submit to the office. The officer would then circulate internal e-mail to everyone in the university to invite them to attend the presentation. The e-mail would only contain the candidate's name, student ID, topic of research, and (sometimes) a short description or abstract.

I think this what someone from your faculty meant.
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The person in my faculty said "Full proposal including the whole proposal and references"

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 24 2014, 04:22 PM)
The person in my faculty said "Full proposal including the whole proposal and references"

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Are you worried that everyone else would be reading your proposal and your framework? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 21 2014, 10:32 PM)
My issue is, apparently someone in my faculty says that the students' candidacy proposal has to be circulated to everyone in the whole school before candidacy presentation can be made.
Who is "someone" is that "someone"? A person in authority?

QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 21 2014, 10:32 PM)
Is this right? or is it wrong?
It isn't something you can decide alone. Just discuss with your supervisor and follow the "correct" instructions. icon_idea.gif
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post Feb 25 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 24 2014, 04:22 PM)
The person in my faculty said "Full proposal including the whole proposal and references"

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Yes, you would need to submit the full proposal to the office. In fact, you may need to submit 3-4 hard copies of the report. I doubt you would need to distribute your full research proposal to everyone.

As mentioned by fellow Critical_Fallacy, talk to your faculty's office and get the correct information. After all, you would still need to follow the instructions if you wish to graduate right? biggrin.gif

Cheers!

PS: Do keep us posted after you have talked to them!
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post Feb 25 2014, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 24 2014, 04:59 PM)
Are you worried that everyone else would be reading your proposal and your framework?  biggrin.gif
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Hahaha.. I think that is what ts is worried about? or perhaps the hassle? tongue.gif
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This is why it's recommended to have some preliminary results when presenting your proposal. To ensure that nobody snatches up your result, it's good practice to be one step ahead of any information you divulge.
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QUOTE(PseudoGene @ Feb 23 2014, 10:09 PM)
Why cannot mention the uni?  hmm.gif

Anyway, for UM, you would need to do a seminar presentation within the first two semester (or fourth for PhD), which is basically a proposal defense. You will need to prepare a short report containing literature reviews, methodology, up-to-date results and submit to the office. The officer would then circulate internal e-mail to everyone in the university to invite them to attend the presentation. The e-mail would only contain the candidate's name, student ID, topic of research, and (sometimes) a short description or abstract.

I think this what someone from your faculty meant.
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Agree..i went through this too for my Masters by research
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post Feb 28 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 24 2014, 04:59 PM)
Are you worried that everyone else would be reading your proposal and your framework?  biggrin.gif
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yups. exactly my concerns.
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post Feb 28 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Feb 25 2014, 03:59 AM)
Who is "someone" is that "someone"? A person in authority?
It isn't something you can decide alone. Just discuss with your supervisor and follow the "correct" instructions. icon_idea.gif
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well, that "someone" has a certain degree of authority. To a certain level only.

Already did. I just whip out the policy and show them.
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post Feb 28 2014, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(PseudoGene @ Feb 25 2014, 06:36 PM)
Yes, you would need to submit the full proposal to the office. In fact, you may need to submit 3-4 hard copies of the report. I doubt you would need to distribute your full research proposal to everyone.

As mentioned by fellow Critical_Fallacy, talk to your faculty's office and get the correct information. After all, you would still need to follow the instructions if you wish to graduate right?  biggrin.gif

Cheers!

PS: Do keep us posted after you have talked to them!
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I've submitted my full proposal to the office for graduate studies. Now, someone wanted to circulate my full research proposal to everybody zzz.

The correct instruction- according to the policy is the circulation of abstract only.

By the way, a decision has been made. That someone withdrawn whatever he/she had said. smile.gif Only full abstract is circulated now.
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post Feb 28 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Feb 28 2014, 02:19 PM)
I've submitted my full proposal to the office for graduate studies. Now, someone wanted to circulate my full research proposal to everybody zzz.
I could never understand why some institutions brandish around candidates' proposals like this. I wouldn't like my proposal flying around like that. Glad that you finally only needed to submit the abstract.
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post Feb 28 2014, 03:24 PM

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submit proposal -> present to panel interviewer -> passed/ not -> panel determined the main subject according to expertise.

And NO, my proposal didn't get to circulate around. biggrin.gif

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