how's afroman performance?

Like a walk in the park

we played really well.. fully deserve he 3 points.. could have scored more too..

the back just solid Vida & Rio surely still the best centre back partnership in BPL

LOL...seriously? he kena walked ka? hahaha

I believe nobody here disrespect Giggs for his loyalty and contribution thus far, but we wish to see Moyes really bring some changes to his tactic and formation (if he does has one or two...) instead of playing Giggs on the wing, which he can no longer flying on the flank

Afro played well, hold up the ball and made some decent passes. Got couple of chances to score but no luck. Provided stability in the center. I'd say he should start more given his performance.

Funny how people thinks we are dis-respecting Giggs... please.... He is a legend we all know it.... but what we are questioning now is.... since Moyes is re-building the team... why dont he use more younger players to get more experience and play along with the rest of the team?

Bringing Giggs on to play does not help in this.. no? This is not about which position Giggs was playing yesterday.... is the more time he plays... the less chance others will get...

I have to agree that bringing Giggs on isn't the best option , heck Moyes biggest mistake so far is his subs. Other than that , I would say everything is still alright ( EXCEPT for certain playstyle , but one could argue that it's the player's choice , we wouldnt know what's going on there ) , especially considering how well Rooney's situation was handled .

If #31 keeps on playing well and provide stability in midfield , he'll be a good Fletcher+Carrick combined together . What I worry is our CB and LB at the moment . With Vida Evra leaving , who do we have ? Buttner at LB - Left side of defence exposed all the time . Evans is alright , but Jones and Smalling dont look like the most stable of players , and both are injury prone , especially jones. This summer will be one of the biggest for the past few years , many will leave many will join I suppose .

Involved in some key moments during 1st half. Not sure about 2nd half because I didn't get to watch it. Overall, he was rated 7/10 in yesterday match.

During 1st half, I think Moyes instructed Fellaini to get into opponent's area everytime we are in possession and get the ball wide to cross it into the area for BigAfro. But, we were less one dimensional and played some combination of short passing to open up defence as well. Very nice to watch RVP, Rooney and Mata mixing it up.

I think we should stop bringing on Giggs and give other player some game time to build confidence. Giggs is retiring anyway...

Giggs must score at least a goal for any premier league season. Moyes in dilemma whether to keep the record or break the record for this time.

lost a game, here con-lan-firm meltdown. won a match, oso mau gado. fans these days.... tsk tsk tsk

A win, a clean sheet, Fellaini returns and did a decent job (aside from the poor shot attempts).

Hopefully we can keep improving

Why are you contradicting your own statement? Let me reenact your statement.

How is this not disrespectful? Forcing someone to retire against his will? Another another someone

Don't give me BS that these statements are considered as 'constructive', by asking someone to retire is respectful? If you respect Ryan Giggs contribution to the club, you shouldve make those statements in the first place. As I've said before, we won the game. That is the most important. Why can't Giggs get a runout when we are leading comfortably with 2 goals? It's not like we need a game-changer right after DM makes his substitution.

Lol. Kantoi.


I don't think some people here realise. The whole point of putting Giggs, Fletcher, Valencia in was for better defensive solidity and composure. Giggs brings experience and composure to the team with his influence. United have lost composure the last few minutes of the game this season so many times. The experience of players like Giggs was meant to improve the composure of the players to avoid conceding another goal. At the same time, Giggs is still a very capable player and also has tactical discipline. Kagawa was never going to provide that composure because he lacks influence over the other players the same way Giggs has.

Look at the team sheet. Ferdinand was back. Vidic. Evra. Carrick. Rooney. Mata. RvP. Giggs. Fletcher. Valencia.

The players chosen are all packed with experience, especially experience in winning games in the BPL. Moyes has gone for experience to steady the rocking ship and build a foundation. Once the pressure is off the players, he can slowly start rotating the players.

In case anyone didn't notice, this is United's first away win this year. And after conceding so many last minute goals, the jitters were there for all to see. Little wonder then, that he chose players with experience.

And why is it wrong for Moyes to sub Giggs in if Moyes wants to rebuild the team? Why should he only sub younger players if he wants to rebuild the team? Making changes for the sake of keeping up appearances to the fans? The substitution had a tactical reasoning behind it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. In yesterday's game, it seems to have worked with United sealing the result.

Whether you feel it was the right tactical decision is one thing, but I cannot agree with the argument that this was a bad decision because he wants to rebuild the team and therefore should only sub younger players. That doesn't make sense to me.

Rebuilding the team is a big picture thing. Substitutions in a game is a small picture thing. The big picture is measured over years. Not substitutions over 1 game. There are plenty more chances to substitute younger players in other games over the next 6 years. This is just 1 substitution in 1 game where it was more critical to close out the game than anything else.

Not to mention, Moyes was criticized for bringing Giggs in and all that rebuilding argument, but some people fail to realize that Giggs came on to replace the player who started the game in that position. Januzaj. An 18 year old.

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not forgetting to mention he got a yellow card afterwards ... scholes~like tackle

Damn. Liverpool scores already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhX_OfBheQ0

budak ni bagus

He wanted revenge on Ward for his earlier tackle on Januzaj IIRC

LOL I dont think my statement is dis-respecting Giggs... no offense... what I had said earlier is "we all know Giggs contribution to the club over the years"... in fact I know there are hardly anybody who can match his achievement... I still remember how he flies over the wing and help us defeat many opponents..

The reason why I ask the question about why he is not retires is because the longer he stays.... the lesser chance others gain experience. How can others gain experience then? We cannot keep rely on Giggs to pamper the young players isnt it? Bringing experience and stability? The young players need to step up now... not keep waiting years after years for a 40 years old legend to bring stability and experience to the team...

I will be delighted if Giggs is mentoring the young players during training or etc...but not keep expanding the year of service and occupy a spot which deny opportunity for others. They should have step up and be a player who deserve to wear that shirt, not keep rely on Giggs.

Totenham drop points tonite and the gap for 5th place is 5 point. Really need to step up our game avoid losing any unnecessary defeat. If we can't grab the UCL spot, at least we can content with Europa spot.