Anyone from butterworth can look doctor Dennis
The doctor advise is to make your stress go away first before you proceed to have baby
With stress is hard to conceive.
PM if you need the contact.

Doctor recommend is conceive naturally.
Not IVF.
Mostly he check husband/wife condition first.
Is not the food or anything that make you cannot have baby.
Is the stress inside. The first solution you need to solve.



This post has been edited by glamour: Mar 29 2016, 02:46 PM

hi guys, my wife success in IVF and we got a lovely baby girl. We have a journey page in Facebook (*just that is written in Chinese). If anyone likes to read more can goto my FB page;

here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/ivfjourney2015

We've been trying for 1 year. I am 31 this year. I am scared. so I was thinking to go IVF or IUI. Since IUI is cheaper, I thought of going IUI first.

Is it normal to go for IUI first and if it is not successful only go for IVF?

I just did the xray scan, it is so painful I almost fainted. Is IVF painful too?

Congratulations!

What XRay procedure that you did, that is so painful? As far as I know, Xray is literally painless, unless you are going for diagnosis xrays like angiography.
Before u go for IUI, please go visit a fertility gynae, to diagnose the cause of sub-fertility. We skipped IUI and went straight to IVF as we know that for our condition (bilateral blocked tubes), there is no way that IUI would help. It helps if you know what is the problem before deciding what you'd need to do next.
Oh yea, just a FYI, no pain compares to childbirth.... think you have heard of it a billion times before

I did the normal one, they pump like a small balloon inside my tube. then then expand little by little, then x-ray.

So result came out and doctor said both of us are very healthy. My hubby's little rascal can swim very fast and good health. My tubes are all ok, period came in every 28 days +-1 day.

Now doctor told us to take medication like 2 tables for each day for 5 days on the first day of menstrual. The side effect is that the ovary will become big. but then is just normal she says, after 2-3 days it will shrink back. The medicine is for increasing soemthing i forgot. the name of med is called Clomid 50mg. Doctor advised, why dont try this before IUI. Anyone had this before?

My wife was 37 we decide for IVF. We been trying for 4+years and done research for 2+ years before deciding on IVF. I had found a lot of reasoning that IVF is suitable for us because my wife got cysts and my little swimmer is normal "means not very kuat in other words " and we're getting OLD. So i did more research and most article saying should not have problem for pregnancy however some article said it "might" have chances contribute to fertility problems. *I found this article AFTER we're in the IVF process, big gamble huh?*

For your question, "Is it normal to go for IUI first and if it is not successful only go for IVF?". I can't give any advice on this but your age "31", I suggest u to do more research and takes more time to digest all the info. I bet u will come out with better decision, I can't guarantee this will helps but at least this will reduce the mistakes of going to the wrong path. From the body checkup part and into the process will takes u A LOT of $, effort, time, pain and HOPE is the important things.

And this question, "I just did the xray scan, it is so painful I almost fainted. Is IVF painful too?". I really don't know how painful it is, the only thing I participate is everyday I need to use needle to poke my wife belly to inject the medication. If u got time can read my facebook page in my previous reply on top but is in chinese. My wife logging the journey from the day we "think" on IVF until today with my babygirl picture.

Thank you

This post has been edited by skydrake: Apr 13 2016, 12:03 AM

so stressful.

Congratulations!

Ok, now I understand. The procedure you went through is called HSG, my wife went through the same procedure as well, and yes it was painful, more so coz her tubes were blocked.
If you do not have issues with tubes, and have good sperm in your partner then maybe can give Clomid a try. It is an ovulation medicine, triggering the maturity of the eggs and releasing the eggs from your body. It has to be timed correctly (the doctor will prescribe the time), and make sure copulation (aka sex) happens at the prescribed time as well. If all goes well, then viola! you are peggy...
IUI would be the next logical step if Clomid fails to give results, but do give Clomid a few tries first before deciding to go IUI. You are 31 so still have some time to think and try...
IVF should only be your last option, and should only be considered if you know the diagnosis of the sub-fertility issue, and not before... as you know, IVF is very stressful to the lady and the family (not to mention financials).

Good luck!

Ty so much for your encouragement. every month when the blood drip come we will feel sad. Hopefully the Clomid works.
Clomid won't affect the conceive quality? or health of the baby in future right

stressful yet happy. at least I had done trying it. my wife wanted a baby so much and I told her this is only 1 shot gamble, if it does not success don't lose hope and we need to carry on to live a better life even without baby. we're lucky thou, we only got 6 egg and 3 success fertile BUT ONLY "ONE" which is the most suitable best grade to use. so this is truly count on "LUCK" for me as a gift from God.

from the whole process, i remember it and I have few points to tell u that it will increase the success rate.
1. u need to be mentally prepare
2. your husband support from A-Z means from taking care of your emotion, food, care, money to almost anything u need. most importantly is taking care of your emotion and very supportive.
3. always think on the positive side, no matter what happen. (for myself as a Christian, praying is my only option to stay positive, for non Christian i guess u all have a way to make yourself happy and think positive right?)

there is a lot more thing that can increase the success rate, eg, look for the right doctor or fertility centre is also important. anyhow if u able to do all the above mention, i guess by your side had done a great work.

lastly, all the best

thank you

This post has been edited by skydrake: Apr 13 2016, 08:07 PM

Hi,
Does any1 try govt. I want to govt as financial problem. We started our treatment last year March 2015. This month is my first cycle. On clomid treatment but failed as doc say I got PCOS. Should I seek another doctor advice? Previously I did see tmc sense I and they say my womb "cold"... One cycle cost me rm390... Try for half year but no news so hence go for govt.... Any advice?

From our experience, Dr Eeson is very friendly, very positive kind of person. I would definitely recommend you or anyone. He had even wrote and publish a book called "Overcome infertility".
My wife had met him twice during IVF cycle. Our primary consultant was Dr Wong at Sunfert but he is too busy with appointments, thus we were asked to see Dr Eeson (to cut down waiting time) for Day 8 and OPU of IVF cycle. Transfer done by Dr Wong though.

D2 - Dr Wong
D8 - Dr Eeson
D11 - Dr Wong
OPU - we were asked to see Dr Lim but we opted for Dr Eeson
ET - Dr Wong
Beta HCG - Dr Wong

hello All, I am not a doctor but I can share you some info about IVF process from our experience. Below may not applicable for all and everyone, but I think this is how it will be for normal situation.



IVF there are 5 phases:-

Phase 1: Forcing ovaries to produce more eggs

All women naturally produce only one egg each month. But here, we are forcing both ovaries to produce more eggs from injection (FSH, LH). Usually, doctor wanted to see average of 6-10 eggs, but it doesn't mean that it is not OK when you have less than 10. There are many women have gotten pregnant with only 2 or 3 eggs. So please stay hopeful. During this phase, usually you will require to see doctor three times D2, D8, D11. And before you start, Your AMH (egg reserve) in bloodstream is tested to let the doctor to decide which protocol & correct dose is suitable for you. If you are high risk of OHSS - OVARY HYPERSTIMULATION SYNDROME, different protocol will be used for trigger in Phase 3.

D2 - start self injection with initial dose (dose is decided based on your AMH, PCOS, etc)
D8 - SCAN. Evaluate egg growth and decide if the initial dose is OK, or needs reduce or increase, or even add another type of injection so that all eggs are growing around same size.
D11 - evaluate egg size to see if they are in good size (majority should be > 15mm with one or two >18mm) and also decide if injection needs to be continue for 2-3 more days to make majority of eggs become >15mm

If you are at high of OHSS - OVARY HYPER STIMULATION SYNDROME, Your hormone (Progesterone, Estradial E2) will be tested to see if you are suitable for Embryo transfer later.

Phase 2: Trigger / Maturation
D13/14 - You will be given another injection called "trigger" which mean you are forcing eggs to mature. Immature eggs is not suitable for fertilization.
This trigger has to be taken exactly 35-36hours before your scheduled OPU - egg retrieval. This window is important.

You also need to take antibiotic one day before the OPU - Egg retrieval procedure.
Instruction will be given to you what to do/not to do.


Phase 3: OPU - Egg retrieval from minor surgery procedure.
D15/16 - Egg will be taken out from ovaries. Husband also need to produce sperm on the same day. Embryologist will inject (ICSI) sperm into egg for fertilization. If ICSI technique is not used, then sperm & egg are placed in same container to let fertilization happen naturally.

Suppose the egg & sperm fertilized successfully, The embryologist will monitor embryo development progress to see if the number cells are multiplying correctly. 3days embryo should have 8cells. 5-day embryo will become blastocyst (many many cells). Embryologist will set grade for each egg based on its cell numbers and fragmentation.

You will be given progesterone supplements to take daily until your transfer, which will make your uterus receptive for implantation later.
Instruction will be given to you what to do/not to do.

Phase 4: Embryo transfer
D17/18 - The good or average embryos will be transferred to your uterus hoping all will be OK. You will be given instruction what to do/what not to do. And you will be also asked to bedrest 1-2weeks depends on your condition/previous miscarriage history.

You will continue with progesterone and estrogen supplements

Phase 5: Beta HCG
To check if you are pregnant or not. Good luck!

This post has been edited by anustar: Apr 22 2016, 01:14 PM

Sorry, 1st time using this forum.
I've tried many IUI & 3 IVF, all failed.
Looking for another alternative Centre now.
Can you add me to the FB group?
Tian Siew Aik

TQ

Me and my wife went to HUKM, and the Dr is good. We have been TTC for nearly 5 years. Previously, we went to Dr Hamid Arshad, and consume clomid for about 3 cycle. No result yet. He planned for laparoscopic surgery and dye test but it was scheduled nearly 6 months ahead. We cannot wait and we went to HUKM.

The price for treatment and consultation is definetly cheaper. We went for surgery and dye test for within 2 weeks. Dr checks everything is okay and the dye test showing a good results. Previously during HSG, my wife have a minor adhesion and hydrosalpinx.

Dr provide us to try natural again, and provide us clomid.This time, we are already trying to plan for IUI. Before we are able to get to IUI treatment, my wife is preganant. What we do to get pregnnt ? After the surgery, I ask my wife to take leave for nearly 4 weeks, and I provide her to some vitamins. We do not use clomid as it turn out negative result previously. My wife consume Nutrilitte Double X, folic acid, and Cal D everyday for a month, and we finally got positive result.

We have try many medicine, and turn out with disappointment. My suggestion is, keep trying and never give up. You need to be positive, less stress and try different medicine, if one's is not working.

I've heard nutrilite is good, and having a good review. however, i cannot find this product in guardian, watson, may i know where do u get it?

I've bought it from my sister with membership price. I can pm you her number if you need it. It is very good product, I have tried many product previously, and maybe this one is suitable for us.

Yes, please thanks. I'm also trying to conceive for 5 years already, and some of my relatives, does suggest this product as well...might want to try it and see how it's goes.

hi everyone. we are TTC for 3 years now and have gone to a fertility specialist. my husb has a problem wt his testes. one is undecended, hence it is not producing any sperm we also did the SSR (surgical sperm retrival) and found that there is no good sperm. I am going to be 36. Because of our situation we try not to discuss it with our families because they stress us out more... I found this thread and see soo many people post about IUI, IVF etc and the success. I feel so happy for all of you.. But In my case, I really don't know what else to do. We already tried clomid, herbal medicines, but its not working. Doc said cannot do anything.