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 Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2

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post Feb 7 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Feb 7 2014, 03:37 PM)
According to our fellow elite lyl members here.

1.) 20% of staff earning high income.
2.) 20% staff children education fund r sponsored by company RM 100K international school.
3.) Minimum salary RM 7K/mth for all staff (i wonder tea lady, dispatch boy,  security guard included ? ) 13 months salary.

Ripley believe it or not lah ..lol

Just calculate the amount of people qualified to pay income tax then we can see how big the secondary market.

I heard MNC quite cruel when it comes to retrenchment. . wait for dead chicken. . brows.gif
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Hehe once come to down turn. U want wait for dead chicken. Maybe u oso jobless... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Feb 7 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Feb 7 2014, 05:23 PM)
mega rich also cannot run away. during 97 sleepless night for sunway bosi, berjaya bosi, malton bosi and many bosi.
every night like nightmare to them almost at the edge of bankruptcy..
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All ppl will suffer. Only thing cash rich hv more advantage they can buy the good unit very fast. Ppl wait for dead chicken n still need get max loan. Dun think so easy. Wait till loan approve, cash ppl oredy buy lor.
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post Feb 7 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Feb 7 2014, 06:00 PM)
Many MNC do not need to wait till crisis to retrench,  eg company downsizing,  moving their business to lower cost country,  business not good due to market trends,  problem in HQ, problem overall global sales, certain business units been sold, M & A, & etc.

So it could be just that particular or few companies staff units become Dead Chicken. ..  brows.gif
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Hehe maybe they very happy n willing to tk retrenchment or VSS. Can earn a lump sum of money. Clear loan n Some more can enjoy life. Early retire. Hoho
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post Feb 7 2014, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Feb 7 2014, 07:07 PM)
With peanuts VSS ?? Can retired ?? Clear Housing Loan ?? No jokes..  notworthy.gif

Back bubble business some interesting Singaland property news (Too bad only in chinese)..

http://www.zaobao.com.sg/consumer/property...20140207-307169

30% of Singapore Flat/Apt sold below valuation price.
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How u know the comp pay them peanuts vss package?. I think ur comp will offer u peanuts vss package.

Hihi, few days ago u posted the news Asia share drop n u comment dead chicken is coming. These two days klse bk to 1800. Dead chicken run away ?

30% of spore flat /apt sold below valuation price. Hihi coz they come to iskandar biggrin.gif

Keep waiting... Maybe ur dead chicken only will come after few yrs. once ur peanuts vss package come together with ur dead chicken. Hihi u oso become hungry dead chicken. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2014, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 7 2014, 07:52 PM)
This is the price to pay to testart the property price.. I would give it a go.

but then again.. only flippers get bancrupt.. the secondary market upon auction will be absord..

Flippers cannot be associated with our malaysia whole economic growth..  sumore flippers only small number and with them out their contributions are negligable...

Few real estate offices close down a lot leh possible
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If come to Tis situation, many flippers bankrupt, many real estate close down. Maybe u oredy become dead chicken lor
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post Feb 7 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Feb 7 2014, 09:43 PM)
Assumed u r 35 years old get VSS, u think company would pay u 25 years salary so that u can retire for good ?? or 45 years old will get 15 years salary plus increments ??
Let me guess u never bought share ? share price base on day maybe even hours dead chicken,  Me just earn 2 grand bulat2 in a day, buy Thursday sell Friday,  no need capital some more. brows.gif
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Haha, ur calculation show u 100% makan gaji ppl. Salary is ur main income. Die liao lor. Some ppl tk vss happy till cry. Some tak dapat vss sad till cry.
Just make 2 grand bulat bulat.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif hihi wua Sudah retired few yrs ago..

Wahhh, u smart in share?. Do u know klse the best time is when ?
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post Feb 7 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 7 2014, 11:01 PM)
Well then movie time "kingdoms of heaven"

"When king baldwin the IV is of his last breath of life.. he  summons bailian and offered him as the following..."

"Will you take care of the kingdom when I died?.. and will you marry my sistet sibliya of jerusalam and take the crown?"

bailian answers " a man's soul cant be moved.. even a king" u have my love and my answer( rejecting and proposing that there should not be any correctio /crash in prop)

king baldwin says " so be it"..

so be it my friend.. I were to be a death chicken.. I shall wait you on the bancruptcy doors.. may god be with you.
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rclxm9.gif BBW admit will be dead chicken. Dead chicken in front of bankruptcy door n c nobody thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Feb 8 2014, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Feb 8 2014, 12:18 AM)
Appreciate with few example. Tq
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif , the answer is " tak Ada"
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post Feb 8 2014, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 8 2014, 10:29 AM)
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Remind me of gold hoarders/investors argument that gold price has been on upward trend for over 7 years and will continue to breach $2,000/oz in 2012, etc, etc, etc. Believe even those who hoard gold before the beginning of bull run in 2008 and invested more along the way are under water at current price.

Given enthusiasm level in the current property frenzy is similar to gold during the last bull run, it won't be a surprise the price drop will follow gold in proportion. Nothing goes up in straight line forever else there won't be less than 8% of adults have net worth over US$100k.
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Correct, that y is depend on ur investment strategy n prediction.
Some of them oso said price will drop till 900per oz but so far still ard 1260per oz.
If u target invest in gold, will u go in now( coz 1200 is min cost of gold)or wait till 900per oz?.
If u target 900per oz but the price never drop to tis level n go bk to 1500per oz within tis yr then u will miss the boat.

Same as property, if u target property drop 20% from now but does not happen n price correction only happen after 3 yrs. So, u oso will miss the boat or down grade ur target or oredy out of ur budget.
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post Feb 8 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 8 2014, 01:52 PM)
Good graph to show  thumbup.gif

Reminds me of investment is a very personal viewpoint. The optimists view gold investment as a long term investment. If you invest in 2004 your cost is $400. It went up to $1800+ and settled down now to $1200+. Still a 3 fold profit from $400. The pessimist view gold investment from the peak of $1800+ and crashed to $1200+. A 33% loss

Same applies to property. If you buy a property in 2004 for RM200k. It is worth maybe RM600k now. For optimist, even if it crash 30% he still make 100% profit. For the pessimist, if crash of 30% happens, people have to force sell or he (who must be a flipper without holding power) will go bankrupt

It is all about individual investor behaviour. And how you view the property market depends on whether you are a optimist or a pessimist.
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post Feb 8 2014, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Feb 8 2014, 11:17 AM)
Regarding if, IF drop 20% after 3 yrs, (assumption niacin, ok) it's worth waiting if price stay stagnant. Wat if price up again let's assume 5% per yr? Then drop 20% after 3 yrs means 4th yr la, how har? Still can use I TOLD U SO boh?
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That y lor. Some ppl keep waiting. At the end got lobang ok lar. If at the end... More expensive hihi kanasai lor
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 8 2014, 04:33 PM)
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If a 40 year old looks like this, I wouldn't mind staying in
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The photo very nice.
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post Feb 8 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 8 2014, 04:41 PM)
Already 40 y/o aunty. Still better looking and has body better than 18 y/o  ohmy.gif
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Yala, Tengok oso beh tahan. Sibeh Sui
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post Feb 8 2014, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Feb 8 2014, 06:28 PM)
Approaching 40yrs like tis oso not bad. Not too big not too small. Ngam Ngam Ho. brows.gif
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post Feb 9 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 09:33 AM)
This one right... liao 20 years from now mb I buy enco hill ftom rabel anf stay there .. catching bit weight di.. got medical card oso no use will have to suffer ...
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Hihi I tot u only can afford flat
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post Feb 9 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 11:27 AM)
Aiyaa 20 years from now... echo hill wont pass 2 million mark.. u sendiri pun tau.. crystal ball say..
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The problem after 20 yrs. one mil u tak Ada ler.. Crystal ball say..
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post Feb 9 2014, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 11:43 AM)
Better still.. 20 years down d road still dun have 1 m.. to be honest.. unless I do business working working will never be able to save 1 million... after 20 years... if earn can 3  milliob pun boleh... most used up.. no need eat.. no car.. no martiage meh.. no children mehh.. dan barang naik lehhh
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Working working then make 3 mil in 2034. Good, at least u admit u need to die die working only can make 3 mil after 20 yrs. Blood Sweat money.
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post Feb 9 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 11:43 AM)
Better still.. 20 years down d road still dun have 1 m.. to be honest.. unless I do business working working will never be able to save 1 million... after 20 years... if earn can 3  milliob pun boleh... most used up.. no need eat.. no car.. no martiage meh.. no children mehh.. dan barang naik5 lehhh

20 years oso cant u guys still partying outskirt to go 750k upon Vp and 1 million mark by 2015... who buying oh??? Or renting ohhh..

u yourself admitted given dat amount of time still cant get 1 m cash... how... ok mayymy sakary low.. but guess wat.. at least 60 to 70 % of msia population are like this are lower than me or same or little higher.. where is ur market?
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Of coz they won't target u lar.
U think all ppl like u only know die die working to make money meh. If u tell me u Wat to earn first 3 mil within 5 yrs ( if ur age between 25-30) I will say very good. Keep going.
3 mil in 20 yrs. alamak. Pls lar.

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post Feb 9 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 12:01 PM)
if you carefully look around... really no jobs even professional get to save 1 million more cash in 20 years time.. see you own father got mou... i not belittling just example...

i can earn 3 million just work (without venturing to other business) but along 20 years much was spent.. childrens 3 or 4 to come.. cars my self and those etc.. un know lahh... and even i got 1 million i can only own it by cash buy 1  prop.. my KSWP are my retirement money ,coffin money, fengsui money..

are you telling my because working is really cant get 1 million dat y u go flipping business.. wahhh... go also can.. but appetite so big.. one shot profit 300k.. 20 years also cant make a million.. u one shot 2 years upon VP sapu 300k.. so big appetite.. you young generations always thinking fast money one.. hit jackpot then no need work.. haizzz these kind of culture..
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Who ask u only depend on working to earn money? U know oso value of ringgit is smaller n smaller. To be frank, Wat is 1 mil in the market right now. Makan gaji can earn 1 mil.. Blood sweat money lar.

if u Wat to retire earlier, pls be smart n aggressive especially ur thinking.

Again, if u got mind set u Wat to retire ard 40 or after 40 working oso for passing time. I will tell ur thinking very good n positive. Pls continue n figure out how to achieve ur life target.( not only property. Others else can help to Achieve life target. Just go ahead).

But at tis moment, based on ur reaction n thinking. I dun think so u can make it.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 12:14 PM)
By flipping... political link.. bribe... business like macdonalds.. blue chips (must buy more)... investment shares .. equity... or even MNC or O&G top management..artist.. internatinal.. I dun see anymore
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The problem have u earned " first tong of gold " oredy? U know the first " Tong " is more difficult to earn but without tis u won't be rich n retire earlier.

Talk again flipper, I still think they r good, at least they know how to figure out to make more money. Right? Become richer or the other way rd is upon to them n depend on their prediction n strategy.

U?? Tis one can not, that one can not. At the end, all can not lar till the flipper ( of coz not 100% flippers) oredy retire earlier. U??.. Still die die working to earn money. U think 3 mil in 2034 very big?. Apa lar Lu . U know if u got 3 mil ringgit now oso not consider is rich. Not even richer.

U know got how much cash flow on hand NOW only can consider so so rich?(tis is info I refer to one of the biz report but I can not remember the report name)



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