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LTZ
post Jan 29 2014, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 29 2014, 01:56 AM)
from fb;
i think its already latest official news
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They just past thru James Shoal at night...no exs or landing conducted. It has been reported by our ship & P3C Orion.
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post Jan 29 2014, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 29 2014, 01:56 AM)
from fb;
i think its already latest official news
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Still not convinced.
Until KEMENTAH or PM himself deny the incident ever happened I'm not holding a third-party announcement as official government denial.
This is too serious a matter to depend on other sources.

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 28 2014, 06:28 PM)
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Siap ada Flying Tigers punya Shark Head nose art tu yang tak tahan tu....anyway,are they still in service? These prop airplanes can last a very long time,due to not much stress is inflicted to fuselage & engine because of low speeds and generally gentle flying (no high speed turns & 8G dives,just ronda sana sini). Like Indonesia & Philippine OV-10 bronco from 1970s are still operational.



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post Jan 29 2014, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 07:44 AM)
They just past thru James Shoal at night...no exs or landing conducted. It has been reported by our ship & P3C Orion.
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I never said they landed or had exercises there.But they still stopped at the shoal and swore an oath to defence PRC territories. This is already a serious issue.
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And since when we have P3C Orion?

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post Jan 29 2014, 08:22 AM

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australian orion???
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post Jan 29 2014, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 29 2014, 12:39 AM)
HAP variant unlikely..  tongue.gif  I just want to know what anti-armor missile it going to be equid biggrin.gif

I still think it best for malaysia to upgrade it SAM capabilities + AEWC + more anti-ship missile
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hoping for PARS atgm or at least hot
LTZ
post Jan 29 2014, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2014, 08:10 AM)
I never said they landed or had exercises there.But they still stopped at the shoal and swore an oath to defence PRC territories. This is already a serious issue.
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And since when we have P3C Orion?
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Ally....

Got direct access to this matter since the beginning...but cant reveal much coz under classified infos

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2014, 08:10 AM)
I never said they landed or had exercises there.But they still stopped at the shoal and swore an oath to defence PRC territories. This is already a serious issue.
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And since when we have P3C Orion?
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The Australians periodically fly their P-3C Orion LRMP aircraft from Butterworth to conduct maritime surveillance in the Indian Ocean and South China Sea, and share information with the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), adds the expert.
http://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnist/mo...-sabah-1.238098

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US Navy P-3 Orion surveillance aircraft frequently fly over areas that the Philippines says are within its legal territory but where China has deployed military vessels, said Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario.
http://www.newsabahtimes.com.my/nstweb/fullstory/70621



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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 29 2014, 02:00 AM)
So everyone got trolled by china?
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or we try to deny their presence for counter attack.
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post Jan 29 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 09:13 AM)
Ally....

Got direct access to this matter since the beginning...but cant reveal much coz under classified infos
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Just to tell u guys....ATM never take this matter for granted. Since the beginning of the provocation, we already deployed assets to shadow them....at the same time thru diplomacy channel. The news just cameout for publics...but it already happened some times ago....see the limitation we have now. Lots of ops to take care... from north to south...east to west.
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post Jan 29 2014, 09:44 AM

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Marine Corps gets more war machines

Wahyoe Boediwardhana, The Jakarta Post, Situbondo | Archipelago | Tue, January 28 2014, 7:05 PM

Dozens of Russian-made BMP-3F amphibious infantry fighting vehicles (IFV) made a formation as soon as they landed on Asembagus beach in Situbondo regency, East Java. Operated by the Indonesian Navy’s Marine Corps, the amphibious IFV column then detected a target some three kilometers away to be neutralized.

With support from dozens of 70-mm rockets fired by a RM-70 Grad multiple launcher rocket system (MLRS), and French-made 105-mm howitzer, the amphibious IFVs approached the target with guns blazing. The installed weaponry includes a 100-mm cannon, 100-mm rocket, 30-mm automatic cannon and 7.62-mm machine guns.

The simulated target, located in the Marine Corps’ Combat Training Center (Puslatpur), was eliminated.

The simulation was held on Monday during a handover ceremony of 37 BMP-3Fs from the Russian government to the Indonesian government. In December 2010, the Marine Corps received the first batch of 17 IFV units.

“The vehicles fit into the development of our defense forces to turn the Indonesian Navy into a world class navy,” Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said.

In total, the Marine Corps now has 55 BMP-3Fs, including one BREM-L recovery vehicle. The amphibious IFVs will be deployed to the 1st Marines in Surabaya and to the 2nd Marines in Jakarta.

Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Gen. Moeldoko, who also attended the ceremony, said that the new IFVs were part of TNI efforts to modernize its ageing war machines, such as its Soviet Union-made PT-76 amphibious light tanks and French-made AMX-13 light tanks.

The Marine Corps still has about 50 PT-76s, made in 1954, while the Indonesian Army has hundreds of AMX-13, made between the 1950s and the 1960s.

“We cannot upgrade them anymore because they are already too old,” Moeldoko said.

“AMX-13 and PT-76 will be decommissioned gradually and replaced with newer models until the end of Renstra II.”

Renstra II refers to the five-year Strategic Plan II in 2015-2019 to modernize the TNI. Renstra I is in 2009-2014.

Purnomo said more modern weaponry would be procured in Renstra II, such as the Ukrainian-made BTR-4 armored personnel carrier (APC).

Russian Ambassador to Jakarta Mikhail Galuzin said he was very proud to be able to supply the BMP-3Fs for TNI.

“Because we are strategic partners and we have deep trust in the future,” he said on the sidelines of the ceremony.

Purnomo said the Russian government had agreed to the sale of two Kilo-class submarines to Indonesia, which included Klub-S cruise missiles with a range of between 300 km and 400 km.

“We will send a team to Russia in February to asses whether Indonesia will buy new submarines or used submarines and upgrade their capabilities,” he said.

“We want the Klub-S missiles to be included because of their range.”

After the handover ceremony, Purnomo went to Pasuruan regency to visit the Eighth Cavalry Battalion/Tank, which will house German-made Leopard 2 main battle tanks (MBT) and Marder IFVs.

The Eighth, part of the Army’s Strategic Reserve Command’s (Kostrad) Second Division, will get 40 units of the MBTs and IFVs with the first delivery in October and the rest sent in batches until 2015.

“All in all, we will receive 105 Leopard 2 MBTs and 50 Marder IFVs. They will be deployed at Kostrad’s First and Second Divisions,” Purnomo said after visiting the battalion.

“There is also a discourse to deploy them in border areas.”


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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 09:25 AM)
Just to tell u guys....ATM never take this matter for granted. Since the beginning of the provocation, we already deployed assets to shadow them....at the same time thru diplomacy channel.  The news just cameout for publics...but it already happened some times ago....see the limitation we have now. Lots of ops to take care... from north to south...east to west.
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Yup thing might look simple in front of the news but what happend behind the scene is unknown to us normal citizens.
I trust you guys would do a good jobs protecting our country interest.
but I dun trust those politician.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 29 2014, 09:45 AM)
Yup thing might look simple in front of the news but what happend behind the scene is unknown to us normal citizens.
I trust you guys would do a good jobs protecting our country interest.
but I dun trust those politician.
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sometime I do think that we need to review our media policy about getting silence abbot defense matter
we see that the mainstream media are playing it cool, but the international media are publishing about this,
sometime this create a some sort of panic in the country

it is better to have one media (preferably BERNAMA )to have a little cover about this matter before Reuters
it will give the impression that it is under control
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 29 2014, 10:51 AM)
sometime I do think that we need to review our media policy about getting silence abbot defense matter
we see that the mainstream media are playing it cool, but the international media are publishing about this,
sometime this create a some sort of panic in the country

it is better to have one media (preferably BERNAMA )to have a little cover about this matter before Reuters
it will give the impression that it is under control
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It still depend on mkn and government decision.
I think mostly they want to put sentiments of anti china to the lowest possible.
If it were me I think it would rather put the information as minimal as possible as you can't predict which politician might go full retard with such issue.
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On another things.
Sgpv seem to be getting uav s-100 perhaps
As for torpedo launcher we could be getting the similar setting as the fremm class.
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Tuesday, January 28. 2014

PAF to receive 2 attack AW-109s this year

Posted online by Jigs Nepomuceno in Top Stories at 17:13

MANILA — The Philippine Air Force (PAF) said on Tuesday that two units of the attack version of the AgustaWestland AW-109 "Power" helicopters will be delivered this year.

"Two units will be delivered by 2014 and (by) 2015 (the remaining) six units will be delivered. As per signed contract, two units will be delivered 365 days upon LC (letter of credit) opening," PAF spokesperson Col. Miguel Ernesto Okol said.

He added that the pilots and flight crew who will man the brand-new aircraft have already been identified.

"Pilot(s) and (flight) crew (are now) identified. However, the date for training is TBDL (to be determined later)," Okol said.

The Philippines and AgustaWestland signed the P3.44- billion contract for the attack version of the AW-109s last Nov. 6.

The PAF’s AW-109 "Power" configuration will feature a dedicated mission package and equipment, including a combination of weapon systems.

“It gives us great pleasure to sign this contract with the Philippine Air Force, further reinforcing the already strong partnership with the Department of National Defense. This latest achievement provides clear evidence of the customer’s confidence in the product while we’ve demonstrated that we are a reliable partner, able to offer a cost-effective solution. We are committed to deliver the improved mission capabilities and high quality services the customer deserves,” AgustaWestland chief executive officer Daniele Romiti earlier said.

The AW-109 "Power" is a three-ton class eight-seat twin engine helicopter.

The spacious cabin is designed to be fitted with a number of modular equipment packages for quick and easy conversion between roles.

The aircraft’s safety and survivability features include a fully separated fuel system, dual hydraulic boost system, dual electrical systems and redundant lubrication and cooling systems for the main transmission and engines.

The AW-109s' superior speed, capacity and productivity combined with reliability and ease of maintenance make it the most cost effective helicopter in its class for a range of government tasks.

Over 580 AW-109 "Power" and AW-109 LUH helicopters have been ordered for parapublic, military and commercial applications by customers in around 50 countries. (PNA)


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Indonesia selects Ukrainian BTRs, Russian BMPs

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
27 January 2014

Ukroboronprom, Ukraine's state-owned defence industry holding group, said on 24 January that it has been selected to supply the Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) with the amphibious BTR-4 8x8 wheeled armoured personnel carrier (APC).

Ukroboronprom said the MoD's initial requirement is for five units and that a contract to secure the sale is expected to be signed during the first quarter of 2014. It will represent Ukraine's first military sale to Indonesia in nearly two decades.

IHS Jane's understands that the BTR-4s - developed and built by the Kharkov Morozov Machine Building Plant in Kharkov, Ukraine - are to be acquired by the Indonesian Marine Corps and are intended to augment and eventually replace fleets of refurbished BTR-50 tracked APCs that were procured from Ukraine in the 1990s.


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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 29 2014, 12:10 PM)
which reminds me, why m'sia not interested with Russian vehicles?
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2014, 07:45 AM)
Still not convinced.
Until KEMENTAH or PM himself deny the incident ever happened I'm not holding a third-party announcement as official government denial.
This is too serious a matter to depend on other sources.
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'China not encroaching on our waters'

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia has denied foreign reports that China had encroached into Sarawak waters and was flexing its muscle in the country's maritime borders as a show of power.

Royal Malaysian Navy chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar who rubbished them as inaccurate reporting, said China was actually holding a high-level maritime exercise with its navy and airforce, away from the country's exclusive economic zone and it was held in conjunction with the recent launch of its aircraft carrier Liaoning.

The New Straits Times understands the exercise involved the aircraft carrier, and maritime assets including a submarine, the amphibious dock landing ship Changbaishan, two destroyers, as well as frigates with support from its air force fighter-jets. The exercise, Aziz said was being conducted northwest of the disputed Spratly islands, which was over 1,000 nautical miles away from Malaysia's 200nm exclusive economic zone, adding that no Chinese ship encroached James Shoal, located 80km northwest of Bintulu, Sarawak.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 29 2014, 11:04 AM)
It still depend on mkn and government decision.
I think mostly they want to put sentiments of anti china to the lowest possible.
If it were me I think it would rather put the information as minimal as possible as you can't predict which politician might go full retard with such issue.
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On another things.
Sgpv seem to be getting uav s-100 perhaps
As for torpedo launcher we could be getting the similar setting as the fremm class.
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minimal is all needed

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 29 2014, 01:21 PM)
minimal is all needed
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From time-time proven that our armed forces were very weak in PR.

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