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Financial Cukai Pintu Explained, Cukai Pintu/Assessment Rate issue in KL

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post Jan 10 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jan 10 2014, 11:49 AM)
Boss wat tiramisu boss meant is wat if no tenant??? Can ask for special rate boh. U have not answered.
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No, the special incentive is only for these three types of cases/owners.

Assessment Rate has to be paid whether the owner has a tenant or not renting at his/her place.

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post Jan 10 2014, 02:40 PM

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after reading this thread, TS has not contributed anything useful even when presented by well thought questions by moderator boon. this clown MyKLtalkcock is only here to help DBKL to TRY convince ppl to think that DBKL are actually doing something. He has not addressed any of the forumers feedback contructively apart from telling everyone to send thier concerns to DBKL which is the party that has caused all the dissatisfaction in the first place. Its like complaining to the robber for robbing your house. Even then he cant even come up with any solid explanation as has been proven by bro kochin.

After so long, the least this talk cock king can do is help to put up info on the assessment rates, hearing schedules or what ever else will be useful for the community here. instead he just wait for ppl to ask question and either tell the person to send letter to DBKL (which we all know takes forever for a response not to mention any kind of action) or cook up some BS figures he pluck from DBKL dumpsite and tell us "oh we receive 200k complain bla bla bla". Halo.... u think just coz you say something we believe ar?? newspaper say last year less than 10,000 ppl gather at MPPJ stadium, u believe?? kamon man, ppl here not stupid wei.

from my short time here at LYN, i see that LYN forumer are very resourceful and it is because they cant find anything by google-ing and by searching extensively on the OBVIOUS websites that they come here to seek more info. i think LYN forumer are on a different level compared to MyKLtalkcock.

for me personally i came in here with hope of some good solid feedback to add to the joy of today that is Friday, instead i find this NUT here put inside the tin kosong. what happen when you shake the tin? we all know noise only, nothing happen.

dear moderator, i apolagize for no contructive question and i respect that everyone has the right to open topic and share thier view but i think pinning this topic is giving this clown too much face. If it really is useful LYN community would make it hot topic by now.


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post Jan 10 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jan 10 2014, 11:49 AM)
Boss wat tiramisu boss meant is wat if no tenant??? Can ask for special rate boh. U have not answered.
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boss, you ask him for wat.
you should know better lah.

for commies and/or resi, you can use a separate form to apply for reduction for non-tenanted buildings.
this can be done vide submittals of utilities bills for 3 months to show prove of low/non usage. this is to proof that there's no tenant or usage of the property.
the same can be applied for vacant land.


other than that, there's a separate form for application for own stay, retirees or handicapped personnels.
rather than advising you guys to go to dbkl and get the form, a more sensible approach would be to attached the form here for you guys to download and submit instantly. the form can be photocopied.

a person or company (especially if one's paid or commissioned to undertake it), should deliver results and states what he/she knows. not just stating the obvious and repeating 'standard common knowledge'.


the very first batch of hearing started on 8th January 2013.
hearing is classified by development or taman.
once the development or taman is called out, all owners go in together to state their case.
give justification and if sensible, prices may come down.

if nobody turn out deemed accepted! vmad.gif mad.gif

i hope forummers learn from this quote rather than learning some unuseful run of the mill answers.


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post Jan 10 2014, 04:29 PM

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post Jan 10 2014, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 10 2014, 04:28 PM)
boss, you ask him for wat.
you should know better lah.

for commies and/or resi, you can use a separate form to apply for reduction for non-tenanted buildings.
this can be done vide submittals of utilities bills for 3 months to show prove of low/non usage. this is to proof that there's no tenant or usage of the property.
the same can be applied for vacant land.
other than that, there's a separate form for application for own stay, retirees or handicapped personnels.
rather than advising you guys to go to dbkl and get the form, a more sensible approach would be to attached the form here for you guys to download and submit instantly. the form can be photocopied.

a person or company (especially if one's paid or commissioned to undertake it), should deliver results and states what he/she knows. not just stating the obvious and repeating 'standard common knowledge'.
the very first batch of hearing started on 8th January 2013.
hearing is classified by development or taman.
once the development or taman is called out, all owners go in together to state their case.
give justification and if sensible, prices may come down.

if nobody turn out deemed accepted!  vmad.gif  mad.gif

i hope forummers learn from this quote rather than learning some unuseful run of the mill answers.
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TQVM... it is useful.
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post Jan 10 2014, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 10 2014, 04:28 PM)
boss, you ask him for wat.
you should know better lah.

for commies and/or resi, you can use a separate form to apply for reduction for non-tenanted buildings.
this can be done vide submittals of utilities bills for 3 months to show prove of low/non usage. this is to proof that there's no tenant or usage of the property.
the same can be applied for vacant land.
other than that, there's a separate form for application for own stay, retirees or handicapped personnels.
rather than advising you guys to go to dbkl and get the form, a more sensible approach would be to attached the form here for you guys to download and submit instantly. the form can be photocopied.

a person or company (especially if one's paid or commissioned to undertake it), should deliver results and states what he/she knows. not just stating the obvious and repeating 'standard common knowledge'.
the very first batch of hearing started on 8th January 2013.
hearing is classified by development or taman.
once the development or taman is called out, all owners go in together to state their case.
give justification and if sensible, prices may come down.

if nobody turn out deemed accepted!  vmad.gif  mad.gif

i hope forummers learn from this quote rather than learning some unuseful run of the mill answers.
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Thank you, kochin boss! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Uhhh... Land - how to prove it's vacant?
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post Jan 11 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(princeb0b0 @ Jan 10 2014, 02:40 PM)
after reading this thread, TS has not contributed anything useful even when presented by well thought questions by moderator boon. this clown MyKLtalkcock is only here to help DBKL to TRY convince ppl to think that DBKL are actually doing something. He has not addressed any of  the forumers feedback contructively apart from telling everyone to send thier concerns to DBKL which is the party that has caused all the dissatisfaction in the first place. Its like complaining to the robber for robbing your house. Even then he cant even come up with any solid explanation as has been proven by bro kochin.

After so long, the least this talk cock king can do is help to put up info on the assessment rates, hearing schedules or what ever else will be useful for the community here. instead he just wait for ppl to ask question and either tell the person to send letter to DBKL (which we all know takes forever for a response not to mention any kind of action) or cook up some BS figures he pluck from DBKL dumpsite and tell us "oh we receive 200k complain bla bla bla". Halo.... u think just coz you say something we believe ar?? newspaper say last year less than 10,000 ppl gather at MPPJ stadium, u believe?? kamon man, ppl here not stupid wei.

from my short time here at LYN, i see that LYN forumer are very resourceful and it is because they cant find anything by google-ing and by searching extensively on the OBVIOUS websites that they come here to seek more info. i think LYN forumer are on a different level compared to MyKLtalkcock.

for me personally i came in here with hope of some good solid feedback to add to the joy of today that is Friday, instead i find this NUT here put inside the tin kosong. what happen when you shake the tin? we all know noise only, nothing happen.

dear moderator, i apolagize for no contructive question and i respect that everyone has the right to open topic and share thier view but i think pinning this topic is giving this clown too much face. If it really is useful LYN community would make it hot topic by now.
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the moderator is so kind to give dbkl and it's related govt bodies a chance to prove themselves. with expectation they can do better than other MP (Majlis Perbandaran).

instead of doing us all good services. the ideology is to tell us. dbkl spent a lot of money to create a new image of MyKL. the word "my" vs "ku" sound obvious same meaning. moreless duplicating or mimic the efford by PKR ruled state @ http://www.selangorku.com/

when it comes back to serious work and services delivery to rakyat. there are so many hiccups along process. that irks most of the members and rakyat in general. wondering how they dbkl manage the state affair. moreless giving us perception it's time to UBAH.

well then thats the very best they can do. and we all as tax paying citizens have to live with it.

it seriously proved a point old ruling parties. with old leaders gripping in power. they are no longer competant against new generation of younger leaders. they should be retiring to safeguard their pride and honor. make way, instead of playing the old office politics.
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post Jan 11 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(princeb0b0 @ Jan 10 2014, 02:40 PM)
after reading this thread, TS has not contributed anything useful even when presented by well thought questions by moderator boon. this clown MyKLtalkcock is only here to help DBKL to TRY convince ppl to think that DBKL are actually doing something. He has not addressed any of  the forumers feedback contructively apart from telling everyone to send thier concerns to DBKL which is the party that has caused all the dissatisfaction in the first place. Its like complaining to the robber for robbing your house. Even then he cant even come up with any solid explanation as has been proven by bro kochin.

After so long, the least this talk cock king can do is help to put up info on the assessment rates, hearing schedules or what ever else will be useful for the community here. instead he just wait for ppl to ask question and either tell the person to send letter to DBKL (which we all know takes forever for a response not to mention any kind of action) or cook up some BS figures he pluck from DBKL dumpsite and tell us "oh we receive 200k complain bla bla bla". Halo.... u think just coz you say something we believe ar?? newspaper say last year less than 10,000 ppl gather at MPPJ stadium, u believe?? kamon man, ppl here not stupid wei.

from my short time here at LYN, i see that LYN forumer are very resourceful and it is because they cant find anything by google-ing and by searching extensively on the OBVIOUS websites that they come here to seek more info. i think LYN forumer are on a different level compared to MyKLtalkcock.

for me personally i came in here with hope of some good solid feedback to add to the joy of today that is Friday, instead i find this NUT here put inside the tin kosong. what happen when you shake the tin? we all know noise only, nothing happen.

dear moderator, i apolagize for no contructive question and i respect that everyone has the right to open topic and share thier view but i think pinning this topic is giving this clown too much face. If it really is useful LYN community would make it hot topic by now.
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As mentioned earlier, we are engaging the public with information from the source (DBKL) in the hopes of clarifying matters concerning Cukai Pintu as well as to share announcements.

We deal with facts, not emotion.

If you have any evidence to back your claims, you can either report to DBKL using the information we supplied above or send it over to projectmykl@gmail.com for us to forward to our clients.

For operations conducted by DBKL, if you find any unsatisfactory performance or negligence, you can either report to DBKL, or get one of the media outlets (either mainstream or alternative) to highlight it.

The feedbacks garnered from this forum will be presented to our clients. For that, we thank you for suggestions or comments posted here.

This post has been edited by MyKLTalks: Jan 11 2014, 04:28 PM
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post Jan 11 2014, 06:43 PM

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Kl boss got athg to add ar other than those v oledi know???
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post Jan 11 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jan 11 2014, 06:43 PM)
Kl boss got athg to add ar other than those v oledi know???
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Thank you for your interest. As soon as we get more verified information concerning the Cukai Pintu/Assessment Rate issue from our clients, we will post it on our website, FB, Twitter and update the forums as well.



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post Jan 12 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 11 2014, 10:34 PM)
Thank you for your interest. As soon as we get more verified information concerning the Cukai Pintu/Assessment Rate issue from our clients, we will post it on our website, FB, Twitter and update the forums as well.
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MyKLTalks, we appreciate you are more sensitive to the needs of the community. the process in getting things done should be made as transparent and easiest possible.

there are discussion about hearings. members got their notification later after hearing. this is not right thing dbkl to address issue. so there must be room for improvement or other way round. doing this give overall picture dbkl wants the hike badly via daylight robbery. how you can change that?

it's either you do it right or give your company and client a real bad name together along bad creditability. so please think and act carefully.


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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 12 2014, 11:01 AM)
MyKLTalks, we appreciate you are more sensitive to the needs of the community. the process in getting things done should be made as transparent and easiest possible.

there are discussion about hearings. members got their notification later after hearing. this is not right thing dbkl to address issue. so there must be room for improvement or other way round. doing this give overall picture dbkl wants the hike badly via daylight robbery. how you can change that?

it's either you do it right or give your company and client a real bad name together along bad creditability. so please think and act carefully.
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All feedback are compiled and sent to DBKL, especially concerning the notice issue, which has been brought up by members here as well as in media reports.

Concerning the 'wanting the hike badly via daylight robbery', there are a few components to this - first is the quantum of the hike, which has been explained. DBKL assures that any increase in amount paid by property owners - especially for residential properties - will not be high. In some cases, some owners pay lower Assessment Rate as compared to the years before. In fact, there is a special incentive to even reduce the amount further for OKUs, retirees and owner-occupied properties. There will also be another announcement concerning this and we will post it as soon as the numbers and calculations tally during or after the negotiations concerning the Annual Value Revision public hearings.

Then there is the second component - the rationale why this is necessary. As is made transparent in all budget speeches since 2002 and the breakdown of expenditure and income of DBKL as well as the five-year projected income vs expenditure on our website, the city needs the funds to ensure sustainability of the city.

The information being disseminated are verified by DBKL. Any other types of leniency or negotiations between residents and DBKL are beyond the scope of the campaign. DBKL has been known to be open for negotiations with KL residents. As with any allegations of corruption or general inefficiencies. For that, we suggest the normal protocol of reporting.

We join you in your call for thinking and acting carefully as this is the future of the city we all live in, and there are rules and laws that must be adhered to.

It may be easy to get lost in the heat of an online forum, but try to think about it rationally and when in the real world - is the Cukai Pintu increased for all? Will it burden everyone, especially those who have less? There is a cost to maintain the city and hopefully members of the public will be more informed on how much it takes to actually maintain and develop a modern city such as KL.



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post Jan 12 2014, 12:04 PM

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Again you are contradicting yourself.
No doubt expenses are necessary to maintain a good upkeep of a city. But at what cost.
Any comparison done with other world class cities?
The issue is the citizens are not happy at how the expenses were spent. Ridiculous quantum wasted on unnecessary projects. White elephants such as rm1mil public toilets, unutilised sports complexes in the middle.of no where, shoddy walkways with huge spendings, etc.
Why are nasi lemak stores still allowed to operate with your dbkl staff happily purchasing it?
For god's sake, there is even a daily gerai just opposite dbkl building behind epf building. Sooooooo convenient for illegal trader to set up stalls and stands everywhere in our world class cities. You want proof, those are hard core proof.
Stop propagating lies that it is just.
Justice fairness is justice denied.
Until the day dbkl realise and admit that they are wrong and starts rectification of their faults is the day that dbkl starts to go on the right path.
Budget is a very simple thing. There is only inflow and outflow. If the inflow is capped, one should look at the outflow. So far all reports still concentrate on inflow only.
Walk the talk.
Tell us how many staff are there in dbkl over the population ratio. What was the amount paid for overtime last year?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 12 2014, 12:04 PM)
Again you are contradicting yourself.
No doubt expenses are necessary to maintain a good upkeep of a city. But at what cost.
Any comparison done with other world class cities?
The issue is the citizens are not happy at how the expenses were spent. Ridiculous quantum wasted on unnecessary projects. White elephants such as rm1mil public toilets, unutilised sports complexes in the middle.of no where, shoddy walkways with huge spendings, etc.
Why are nasi lemak stores still allowed to operate with your dbkl staff happily purchasing it?
For god's sake, there is even a daily gerai just opposite dbkl building behind epf building. Sooooooo convenient for illegal trader to set up stalls and stands everywhere in our world class cities. You want proof, those are hard core proof.
Stop propagating lies that it is just.
Justice fairness is justice denied.
Until the day dbkl realise and admit that they are wrong and starts rectification of their faults is the day that dbkl starts to go on the right path.
Budget is a very simple thing. There is only inflow and outflow. If the inflow is capped, one should look at the outflow. So far all reports still concentrate on inflow only.
Walk the talk.
Tell us how many staff are there in dbkl over the population ratio. What was the amount paid for overtime last year?
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In the meantime, if anyone has any questions about the Assessment Rate, the special incentive or their Annual Value revision, please do not hesitate to post here, email us or visit our Facebook page fb.com/mykltalks or ask us on Twitter @mykltalks



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post Jan 12 2014, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 12 2014, 12:04 PM)
Again you are contradicting yourself.
No doubt expenses are necessary to maintain a good upkeep of a city. But at what cost.
Any comparison done with other world class cities?
The issue is the citizens are not happy at how the expenses were spent. Ridiculous quantum wasted on unnecessary projects. White elephants such as rm1mil public toilets, unutilised sports complexes in the middle.of no where, shoddy walkways with huge spendings, etc.
Why are nasi lemak stores still allowed to operate with your dbkl staff happily purchasing it?
For god's sake, there is even a daily gerai just opposite dbkl building behind epf building. Sooooooo convenient for illegal trader to set up stalls and stands everywhere in our world class cities. You want proof, those are hard core proof.
Stop propagating lies that it is just.
Justice fairness is justice denied.
Until the day dbkl realise and admit that they are wrong and starts rectification of their faults is the day that dbkl starts to go on the right path.
Budget is a very simple thing. There is only inflow and outflow. If the inflow is capped, one should look at the outflow. So far all reports still concentrate on inflow only.
Walk the talk.
Tell us how many staff are there in dbkl over the population ratio. What was the amount paid for overtime last year?
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Boss ur statements r indeed vely true. But it's somehow so sad tat v r throwing pearl to a dbkl swine. Denial is scary as all here can c. Of cos exclude kl gor cos he is paid to deny whether he likes it onot. Sad to c tat. Do v call this lie??? Can Macc investigate dbkl for paying a 3rd party to spread some crappy stories here??? After all there is no proof saying or showing how the money is spent.

Kl gor, ngam boh??? Or do u hav sthg v wish to c tat u forgotten to show???

Those write to this or tat, report to him or her if have proof r all crap la. Pls stop showing ur cute side. I might puke cos I can't take it anymore. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 12 2014, 12:04 PM)
Again you are contradicting yourself.
No doubt expenses are necessary to maintain a good upkeep of a city. But at what cost.
Any comparison done with other world class cities?
The issue is the citizens are not happy at how the expenses were spent. Ridiculous quantum wasted on unnecessary projects. White elephants such as rm1mil public toilets, unutilised sports complexes in the middle.of no where, shoddy walkways with huge spendings, etc.
Why are nasi lemak stores still allowed to operate with your dbkl staff happily purchasing it?
For god's sake, there is even a daily gerai just opposite dbkl building behind epf building. Sooooooo convenient for illegal trader to set up stalls and stands everywhere in our world class cities. You want proof, those are hard core proof.
Stop propagating lies that it is just.
Justice fairness is justice denied.
Until the day dbkl realise and admit that they are wrong and starts rectification of their faults is the day that dbkl starts to go on the right path.
Budget is a very simple thing. There is only inflow and outflow. If the inflow is capped, one should look at the outflow. So far all reports still concentrate on inflow only.
Walk the talk.
Tell us how many staff are there in dbkl over the population ratio. What was the amount paid for overtime last year?
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Ya, the number of staff in DBKL is always the concern, do DBKL staff is under pension scheme? If yes lagi teruk lo. As recently news DBKL staffs involving robbing crime. We paid for crime? Shit! Besides that, do we need such huge number staff in DBKL since most of the jobs are out sourcing to "private contractor"?
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You can also find out more on the whole exercise on our website www.mykl.com.my or FB page fb.com/mykltalks .

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 13 2014, 02:53 PM)
If anyone has any more questions pertaining to the Annual Value Revision 2014, please ask us here.

You can also find out more on the whole exercise on our website www.mykl.com.my or FB page fb.com/mykltalks .

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Bullshit. You only selectively answer questions that you can spin and make it sound like you know anything at all.

If you're sincere, be transparent and answer my queries posted earlier.
Else, maybe better for you to stop talking because no one is buying your nonsense
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 14 2014, 08:26 AM)
If anyone has any queries concerning the Assessment Rate and the Annual Value Revision, please feel free to ask us here, go to our FB page: fb.com/mykltalks or ask us on Twitter: @mykltalks.

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Boss u answer 1st la. If dun answer y must v ask??? Too much of bs liao. Today PH la. Dun make ppl here angry la. Go compile ur billing to dbkl lagi best lo.

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