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Financial Cukai Pintu Explained, Cukai Pintu/Assessment Rate issue in KL

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ManutdGiggs
post Jan 6 2014, 09:27 PM

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Arr can I ask u a simple Q. Wat bout those dbkl kacao kacao biz owners asking kopi lui. Can call up dbkl ofis ask for refund of biz license ga???

Eg. Longkang not clean bcos those sapu lantai Alwiz sapu leaves into longkang. Then dbkl bargers come n ask for kopi lui otw giv saman. How ar???

I reckon u hav an idea to deal with it rite??? Apa dbkl mau lagi???

Expenses so high dunno how to cope ar. Step down lo. Or close down lo. Let the rakyats do it lo. Maybe save more lui n can buy macili like LGE ma. Butul ga ah Mr. Apa kl???

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post Jan 6 2014, 10:50 PM

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Wat bout my own use factory vs my next door factory for rental???

One for my biz one for tenant use. But both oso same same naik 246% on valuation. So own use can ask for reduction. Rental 1 depend on how much yield?

How to calculate the valuation vs rental return???
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post Jan 6 2014, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 6 2014, 10:56 PM)
I believe the special incentive is for residential properties. Factories are not residential units.

The Annual Value rental formula is simple.

Annual Value = Monthly Rental Value X 12.

If the rent is RM1,000 per month, the annual value is RM12,000.

If the rent is RM1 million per month, the annual value is RM12 million.
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Boss u hav not answered le. I accepted ur explanation on rental part. Wat bout own use w/o rental??? How to justified???

% on biz revenue or on biz gross profit or on biz nett profit???

Or just pandai pandai throw guli pluck numbers???

Just curious and guess u r the rite man to provide the answer.


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post Jan 6 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 6 2014, 11:09 PM)
For Annual Value

ANNUAL VALUE = TOTAL MARKET VALUE X 10%
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This format is a challenge to the professionalism of the way bank's valuation method. It's contradicting.

Anw tq for ur unconvincing method.

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post Jan 6 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Jan 6 2014, 11:24 PM)
Slight correction. Many banks leave the valuation job and methodology to certified professional valuation company which is governed by the board of valuers. So whatever valuation methodology used by those valuers might not be known to the bank. However I think a lot follows the same methodology used by UK surveyors since we were once colonized by them, eg our common law also links back to UK common law.
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Noted boss.
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post Jan 6 2014, 11:35 PM

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When more high rises are built, mean less flat lands to be taken care of. More so when high rises consist of more units per acre means higher income collecting vs less area to maintain. Furthermore strata high rises have their own maintenance team which do not need any help from dbkl. I find no reason they increase the burden of rakyats just for their own benefit.

Btw do you mean more population caused more rubbish that's why dbkl needs more money??? But still dun see a cleaner kl. And what did dbkl do to stop flash flood??? Perancang that dun rancang???
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post Jan 6 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 6 2014, 11:42 PM)
It is not just rubbish, which eats into 14% of City Hall's budget last year. There are numerous other things that needs to be taken care of, such as roads, rivers, traffic systems, pedestrian walks, public parks, recreational centers, sports halls, etc.

The electricity bill for traffic lights alone costs over RM12 million.

And that is just maintenance.

City Hall or DBKL also develops the city. Last year, DBKL built 35 roads at a cost of over RM170 million. That's just roads. There are many other things that are being built and are part of the development cost.
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Can you show some solid documents for the 170mil spent on building roads???

Otw it's just another empty talk.

Or do you know that many roads around all developments require the developers or land owners to bear the costs???

Anw thanks again for your not so convincing reply.

Btw I will suggest you get it right the the tnb bill before you continue. Please breakdown the figure / total street lamps. Then you will be surprise. If you know what I'm trying to tell you.
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post Jan 7 2014, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 6 2014, 11:57 PM)
You can find the statement on the 35 new roads here in the Mayor's budget speech for 2013:

http://www.dbkl.gov.my/penerbitan/ucapan_b...nbajet_2013.pdf

What are you trying to tell me?
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Boss I'm not in the position to tell you anything. Besides I hope you can tell us what we dunno. hmm.gif
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post Jan 7 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(grifterfmj @ Jan 7 2014, 12:09 AM)

Worker: Boss I need a raise, rising cost going up lah
Boss: Sure, but I have to tell you the quality of work is not up to standard, please improve you want to be recognized as world class right? you need to be more efficient too and spend wisely
Worker: Boss, please provide proof and write in and complain to my secretary kkk? icon_question.gif
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In tis case.

Boss = rakyat
Worker = dbkl
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post Jan 7 2014, 09:23 AM

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As I mentioned b4, if the PIC in dbkl cant manage it well, y not step down and let someone capable to carry out a beta job. Afterall taxpayors are suppose to know and entitle to know wats goin on. If its not transparent, someone hav to do sthg and not hire some td&h to come to forum to tell all sort of nonsense. Providing all link tat the power google can provide us as long as u know how to use the keyboard is not gonna work.
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post Jan 7 2014, 10:45 AM

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What bout if owner renew TA with lower rental due to tenant biz badly affected after all BarangNaik???

How to justified the revised assessment???

Can owners go get refund??? If can't do so then wats the point of paying higher when gd rental???
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post Jan 7 2014, 11:40 AM

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Not transparent at all. Nor convincing enuf.
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post Jan 7 2014, 09:29 PM

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http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014...jalan-mahameru/

mr. Kl, Wat do u think the cause for tis???

if not corruption Wat else ll b ur excuse???



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post Jan 9 2014, 08:08 PM

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All I can say is instead of wasting all the resources to send mails or returning mails, why can't dbkl b a bit smarter to just announce a reduction to a reasonable and acceptable increment??? Is dbkl gonna tell us later saying tat kakitangan tak cukup pasal rakyat but bising???

Tauke kltok can u pass the message to dbkl and stop acting stupid??? And stop all the kok toking show and do sthg cos rakyats r paying them. Do u agree???
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post Jan 9 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jan 9 2014, 10:36 PM)
huh?  blink.gif  What gives? Like strike lottery....
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No doubt it's true. How I wish it's not a gimmick.
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post Jan 10 2014, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jan 10 2014, 12:16 AM)
Just checked! 50% overall increase!  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

What about u ManutdGiggs? Ada untung?
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None is untung wan. Gimmick ma. Increase gao gao then revise the rate. Ended up stil towards the upside. cry.gif
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post Jan 10 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Raffy @ Jan 10 2014, 08:33 AM)
my kondo in shah alam town just 3.5% from nilai tahunan.... rclxms.gif
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Gratz.
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post Jan 10 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(MyKLTalks @ Jan 10 2014, 11:46 AM)
If you are an owner who are residing at your own property, you can also apply for the property where you are staying.

The form needs to be obtained and submitted at a DBKL Payment Counter.
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Boss wat tiramisu boss meant is wat if no tenant??? Can ask for special rate boh. U have not answered.
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post Jan 11 2014, 06:43 PM

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Kl boss got athg to add ar other than those v oledi know???
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post Jan 12 2014, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 12 2014, 12:04 PM)
Again you are contradicting yourself.
No doubt expenses are necessary to maintain a good upkeep of a city. But at what cost.
Any comparison done with other world class cities?
The issue is the citizens are not happy at how the expenses were spent. Ridiculous quantum wasted on unnecessary projects. White elephants such as rm1mil public toilets, unutilised sports complexes in the middle.of no where, shoddy walkways with huge spendings, etc.
Why are nasi lemak stores still allowed to operate with your dbkl staff happily purchasing it?
For god's sake, there is even a daily gerai just opposite dbkl building behind epf building. Sooooooo convenient for illegal trader to set up stalls and stands everywhere in our world class cities. You want proof, those are hard core proof.
Stop propagating lies that it is just.
Justice fairness is justice denied.
Until the day dbkl realise and admit that they are wrong and starts rectification of their faults is the day that dbkl starts to go on the right path.
Budget is a very simple thing. There is only inflow and outflow. If the inflow is capped, one should look at the outflow. So far all reports still concentrate on inflow only.
Walk the talk.
Tell us how many staff are there in dbkl over the population ratio. What was the amount paid for overtime last year?
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Boss ur statements r indeed vely true. But it's somehow so sad tat v r throwing pearl to a dbkl swine. Denial is scary as all here can c. Of cos exclude kl gor cos he is paid to deny whether he likes it onot. Sad to c tat. Do v call this lie??? Can Macc investigate dbkl for paying a 3rd party to spread some crappy stories here??? After all there is no proof saying or showing how the money is spent.

Kl gor, ngam boh??? Or do u hav sthg v wish to c tat u forgotten to show???

Those write to this or tat, report to him or her if have proof r all crap la. Pls stop showing ur cute side. I might puke cos I can't take it anymore. laugh.gif

Thanks

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