QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2013, 09:14 AM)
I did not say Liv has no financial power.
I said financial power make a big difference whether whoever team can rise. (As dillon pointed the rise of blue or Spurs or whoever that may mean Liv has tougher competition)
So bigger stadium, better merchandised and business plan that build the financial power is very crucial for Liv further progress.
So if Liv can build up financial power, there is needless to fear other can rise or not, or whether they settled down or not.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 27 2013, 09:32 PM)
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Players to players, strength to strength and also in depth quality, we need to admit Liv is still behind Mancity, Chelsea, Arsenal (in term of free flowing football).
Mancity performance yesterday is somehow at their norm level, but for Liv is hitting top gear now this year.
If this year is only the chance to make it, then Liv as a club is not doing good progress in rebuilding a top 4 contenders.
Good team doesn't build for one year but for years of dominating on top.
Why can't Liv become stronger and settled next season? blink.gif
But fear other more stronger. The mentality is wrong to start with.
You may call me pessimistic on Liv as title contender, but such fear is even a worst pessimism. smile.gif
You want Liv become like Blackburn did a wonder one year, won the PL title and then relegated after that?
Blackburn capitalised on many team on transition period, and won the PL at that time.
Yes, Liv progress is there to be seen, but as seen from the table, another draw (not even loss), can see Liv out of top 4 coming to the new year.
Stay in course for top 4 is more a realistic target. Anything near the top is the bonus.
The one can be stronger and having a say how the top or top 4 changing shape is always the one with financial power.
You can have good manager, coaching staff, many talented promising youth product, without financial power, there is a limit how far the team can go.
The team will be more stronger will be the team with financial power. (I don't mean to lookdown on the team or which team, but this is the modern football reality).
So the worry is about whether Liv will have financial power or strength to compete as well as good players around to compete on the top. But not about other whether they are more settled or not.
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As said, EPL has 38 games, it is half way through only.
Don't rule out MU into the top 4 pack as well, it can be quite "crowded" to get a top 4 spot as well. smile.gif
Chelsea under Mourinho is capable to win many 1-0 match and Chelsea won the league before with many 1-0 result.
I had seen how Liv from a dominating force in First Division and Europe, then down to the packing order behind ManUtd, Arsenal, Chelsea, now even behind Mancity.
Complacency. Happy what they had, while other busy developing their team and financial power, Liv was status quo.
Once they get pass, you have mountain to climb or may not able to climb back as well.
That's why I repeated said, don't be overjoyed until the last match of the season.
There is too much false dawn in the past already.
Yes, currently there is much joy for supporters to see on top before Christmas and even 4th after Boxing day. But we have to remind ourself that this team is still far from a title contender, many improvement need to be made.
I did say Liv has good progress so far, just my pov that the progress is not until the title contender material or not yet reach that level.
Is there any wrong that my pov that Liv is not a title contender yet?
While if my view Liv is not a title contender yet, why it can spoil the joy of other supporter? Even myself glad to see current Liv standing and progress, despite I view Liv is not a title contender (or yet).
I also giggle why cannot agree to disagree on title contender issue, and how it can spoil other joy.

You think you are the only one here who have seen the 3 European Cups and 19 titles?
A real fan would probably mention the tragedies of Hillsborough and Heysel.
Every step is met by a jab from you. You certainly don't come across as a optimistic fan.
A fan would welcome the troughs as well as the crests of supporting Liverpool FC.
As for the other clubs managing their finances while Liverpool was complacent, all they did was sold out to oil shieks and Ruskie mobster.Call that management?
I suggest the history and culture is more than that. That's why MancsC and Crapski will always crave for the culture that we have and they don't inspite
of their recent triumphs dominated by easy financing.