I wouldnt have say that if I m BR. Doesnt he know one of our player is doing that week in and week out?

Well to be fair, he was asked the question so he had no choice but to defend his player. To say otherwise would to allude that Suarez dived. I think he did the right thing to protect his player and at the same time raising a concern in regards to the poor officiating.

Players to players, strength to strength and also in depth quality, we need to admit Liv is still behind Mancity, Chelsea, Arsenal (in term of free flowing football).

Mancity performance yesterday is somehow at their norm level, but for Liv is hitting top gear now this year.

If this year is only the chance to make it, then Liv as a club is not doing good progress in rebuilding a top 4 contenders.
Good team doesn't build for one year but for years of dominating on top.

Why can't Liv become stronger and settled next season?
But fear other more stronger. The mentality is wrong to start with.
You may call me pessimistic on Liv as title contender, but such fear is even a worst pessimism.

You want Liv become like Blackburn did a wonder one year, won the PL title and then relegated after that?
Blackburn capitalised on many team on transition period, and won the PL at that time.

Yes, Liv progress is there to be seen, but as seen from the table, another draw (not even loss), can see Liv out of top 4 coming to the new year.
Stay in course for top 4 is more a realistic target. Anything near the top is the bonus.

The one can be stronger and having a say how the top or top 4 changing shape is always the one with financial power.
You can have good manager, coaching staff, many talented promising youth product, without financial power, there is a limit how far the team can go.
The team will be more stronger will be the team with financial power. (I don't mean to lookdown on the team or which team, but this is the modern football reality).

So the worry is about whether Liv will have financial power or strength to compete as well as good players around to compete on the top. But not about other whether they are more settled or not.

As said, EPL has 38 games, it is half way through only.
Don't rule out MU into the top 4 pack as well, it can be quite "crowded" to get a top 4 spot as well.


Chelsea under Mourinho is capable to win many 1-0 match and Chelsea won the league before with many 1-0 result.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Dec 27 2013, 09:33 PM

Have to say he has improved a lot. His direct running is dangerous

You misunderstood the statement. It is comparably easier for us to pounce on the chance now than next season. That's what I meant.
I dont mean to call you pessimistic but your view are too extreme to the point of we should just give up, we got no money, dont even dream, dont even hope.

Sorry bro but that is ridiculous. It's like telling me in order to date a pretty girl, I must be handsome, tall, rich and possessed a very good manners.

So many lanchun dating pretty girls out there bro. The Ball is round. As long as it is still round and not sagged, everyone have the chance to fondle it right and score. Opsss.... i mean kick it right and score

I know your meaning very well bro. I fully understand because my mum and my uncle are exactly like that. The worst case scenario predictors. They are cautious in their views and always prepare for the worst. I dont know man. I never embrace that kind of mentality since young because I find it such a burden to pressure yourself to submission of not hoping for the best but instead preparing for the worst everytime. It's like living your life thinking you may die any seconds or any minutes.

bro. I buy you some beers and show you some light and perhaps intro some super Optimistic thinking type of girls to you. LOL

Date can date such girls, likely just a date

Some of us stay optimistic, some are pragmatic.

To say this might be the best chance to snatch a league title given the circumstances, well that's what we all 'hope'

But we stay grounded, it's pretty obvious we can 'play' well, but we can also play 'horrendously' at times.

We all acknowledge we have a 'thin' squad this season, not unlike other big '4' teams with an embarrassment of great talent even on the bench.

BR seems to lose his plot in conference...reminds me of Rafa's FACT rant the very same year...We top the table... and then...the press conference kaboom out and then we lose the title run...

I giggle when I see this.
We are not playing flowing footie?  Did you watch the games we TROUNCED Spuds and Norwich?
And the game last night with MancsC?  How did the goal come? How did the non offside goal come?
Is that not free flowing for you?
Rome is not built in one day....we may end up in 5th place in the next few days. BUT have you seen the 2nd half fixtures?
All but MancsU are to come to Anfield. We have not been doing too shabby at our place.

On financial power and success, pls read Dortmund.
Next our finance may not be that of the Oil Sheiks and Ruskie mafia, but FSG has shown substantial power without being too
extravagant when unnecessary.
Where have you been the last week?    Suarez signed for 200k p week. Even Arsenal does not pay that sort of salary.

We are not ruling out there are many competitors in the fray this year.
Neither should we be so pessy that we rule ourselves out with dogged poverbial pessy and spoil the joy of being a Liverpool Supporter.


This post has been edited by prophetjul: Dec 28 2013, 08:24 AM

I did not say Liv has no financial power.
I said financial power make a big difference whether whoever team can rise. (As dillon pointed the rise of blue or Spurs or whoever that may mean Liv has tougher competition)
So bigger stadium, better merchandised and business plan that build the financial power is very crucial for Liv further progress.
So if Liv can build up financial power, there is needless to fear other can rise or not, or whether they settled down or not.

I had seen how Liv from a dominating force in First Division and Europe, then down to the packing order behind ManUtd, Arsenal, Chelsea, now even behind Mancity.

Complacency. Happy what they had, while other busy developing their team and financial power, Liv was status quo.
Once they get pass, you have mountain to climb or may not able to climb back as well.

That's why I repeated said, don't be overjoyed until the last match of the season.
There is too much false dawn in the past already.

Yes, currently there is much joy for supporters to see on top before Christmas and even 4th after Boxing day. But we have to remind ourself that this team is still far from a title contender, many improvement need to be made.

I did say Liv has good progress so far, just my pov that the progress is not until the title contender material or not yet reach that level.
Is there any wrong that my pov that Liv is not a title contender yet?
While if my view Liv is not a title contender yet, why it can spoil the joy of other supporter? Even myself glad to see current Liv standing and progress, despite I view Liv is not a title contender (or yet).
I also giggle why cannot agree to disagree on title contender issue, and how it can spoil other joy.

I hope it is not another deja vu.

This is called pressure.
That's why it is not the best interest for the team to be labelled as title contender while the team may not able to cope the pressure.

The more people talk about Liv as title contender, manager and players may lose focus due to pressure.

i agree with this. i can see bright start a few seasons back and the team was labelled as title contender time and time again. i believe the pressure got to the entire team and their performance slipped.

if u asked me at the start of the season, i'd say we'd be close to top 4 by the end. perhaps a europa cup spot. but definitely not top 4. keeping that target for next season

I did not giggle...hmm... i google when i see this. LOL

If we chicken out just because people label us as "title contender", then we are weaker than a h00ker.

Come on man. Dont go along with the media gimmick of Rafa's rant and the fall. Subsequently, Liverpool were battering every team starting from March. So what was that? It is due to Rafa's quietness?

Guys, I hope we dont have a team of pussycats or else we are doom.

Plus all they do is label us as contender for everything - from title to europe to mid table to relegation survivor contender, wow, we will be relegated because we cannot stand the word "contender".

Now I may sound like a composer

Yup, not many has experience the heartache of us losing the title to arsenal on the very last game of the season.

All we needed was to draw or lose only by 0-1 to gunner, but we lost 0-2 in that nerving game. As Aldridge mentioned, it was the most painful defeat ever.

Most senior Kopites would agree. The trophy was for us to lose, and we did

Modern football is about $$ now.
If Liv has no financial power to pay top player at 100~200k pounds per week, and the team is not competing in CL, do you think any top player will stay in the team for 3-4 years and wait the team to develop and progress?

I did not say Liv has no financial power, don't get me wrong.
I just said, financial power is also a very crucial factor how Liv can progress.
At the moment, Liv financial power under FSG is rather ok.

In order to date pretty girl, you may not need to be handsome, tall or rich but at least have some sort of financial capabilities.
Yes, you still can date some pretty girl without good financial capabilities, but chances become less significantly.

I never like the feeling of "floating in the sky", I prefer down to earth thinking.
I know I am going to die, just matter of when. Doesn't mean I do not enjoy what current life is, nor I fear I am going to die.

Ty first before your beers and some good "intro".
So when?

The FA is investigating BR comment on Mason, will we get back our dis allow goal ?

There was video evidence to proof.

And never recover. No first division or PL title since after that.

The manager is fighting at wrong end if keep on talking on referee decision.

Look forward.
No matter how, the goal won't be allowed, despite whatever evidence of proof.

Don't repeat what had happened on 2008.

Okay. I understand your meaning better now.
Really, you need to use NLP man. Your negative statement is too strong. Lol

May! Bro. When we meet and celebrate. Will arrange a proper gathering for all