QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2013, 09:14 AM)
I did not say Liv has no financial power.
I said financial power make a big difference whether whoever team can rise. (As dillon pointed the rise of blue or Spurs or whoever that may mean Liv has tougher competition)
So bigger stadium, better merchandised and business plan that build the financial power is very crucial for Liv further progress.
So if Liv can build up financial power, there is needless to fear other can rise or not, or whether they settled down or not.
I had seen how Liv from a dominating force in First Division and Europe, then down to the packing order behind ManUtd, Arsenal, Chelsea, now even behind Mancity.
Complacency. Happy what they had, while other busy developing their team and financial power, Liv was status quo.
Once they get pass, you have mountain to climb or may not able to climb back as well.
That's why I repeated said, don't be overjoyed until the last match of the season.
There is too much false dawn in the past already.
Yes, currently there is much joy for supporters to see on top before Christmas and even 4th after Boxing day. But we have to remind ourself that this team is still far from a title contender, many improvement need to be made.
I did say Liv has good progress so far, just my pov that the progress is not until the title contender material or not yet reach that level.
Is there any wrong that my pov that Liv is not a title contender yet?
While if my view Liv is not a title contender yet, why it can spoil the joy of other supporter? Even myself glad to see current Liv standing and progress, despite I view Liv is not a title contender (or yet).
I also giggle why cannot agree to disagree on title contender issue, and how it can spoil other joy.

If I were to ask you last season if you thought we would be title contenders this season, would you have said "yes"? Fact of the matter is that we've come a long way since then, and in such a short time I might add.
You speak of financial prowess and I agree but instead of inheriting an oil tycoon looking for a hobby, we have businessmen looking to build a profitable club. Is Man City or Chelsea profitable? Both clubs make losses each year despite winning titles. Can't remember the number if times I've repeated FSG's model for success. It isn't instant and it will take awhile but we are headed in the right direction. Already our wage bill has been reduced significantly, sponsorship deals have been signed, not just globally but regionally. Standard Chartered and Warrior are global sponsors but we also have sponsors specific to a country or region like Courts and Honda. This is a big improvement from the days of Gillet and Hicks. Are our owners not spending? Yes they are but not foolishly, not anymore at least. The willingness to pay top dollar for Suarez to stay is testament of this. It also sends a clear signal to the footballing world that if you're good enough, we will renumerate you. FSG won't pay premium prices, they've already said that unless it makes business sense. I agree with them completely on this because the last thing I'd want to see is the club accumulating massive debt again. Many I feel fail to really understand how close we were to administration. FSG's contracts are performance based. They didn't succumb to Sterling's demands and instead offered him a contract that motivates him to play well, instead of paying him in hope that he will.
As for being title contenders, it isn't Brendan's fault that the expectations of fans have been raised. He had first said that the goal this season was to improve over our league position over last season. I personally hoped for a top 6 finish but low and behold we found ourselves leading the league at one point, and this led to fans expecting us to challenge for the title. Was Brendan supposed to intentionally lose games to manage our expectations? No, we're adults with an understanding for the game and it is up to us to be realistic but sadly, I've noticed that expectations change literally every game which baffles me.
Like you I've been a fan for awhile now, since the 80's and I've seen the club decline over the years. Our mistake was closing our doors to the concept of globalisation, preferring instead to keep the club local and as a result we're years behind the likes of the mancs. FSG have embarked on a mission to correct this just 3 years ago and some fans are expecting us to suddenly compete with the likes of City or Chelsea financially. What? I do often wonder if these fans truely understand anything that happens off the pitch? Blaming the club out of ignorance is just plain stupid and I'm embarrassed to know that we have fans of that ilk despite proudly proclaiming to be the most knowledgeable fans in the world. FSG have been nothing but consistent with articulating their vision and the have so far delivered on everything they've said. Not their fault some fellas don't remember or understand what they've said they'd do.
If you compare our squad to our closest neighbours in the league table, we are punching above our weight. Players who have quote often been criticised are playing out of their skin. Pound for pound, our team sheet suggests that we don't belong in the top four. Last season we finished 28 points off the top with virtually the same squad, bar Mignolet and Sakho. Our current league position is testament of how much work Brendan has put in. I get the impression that some folk don't think about this. After all it's hard to take notice to what happens off the pitch if you don't even watch to see what's happening on it and you only look at the final score in the papers.
Are we title contender material? On paper, no, we are not but if anyone were to tell me we aren't playing like ones, I'd laugh in his face. The team has already shown improvement. Earlier in the season we would buckle in the second half of games. Now we're beginning to play well the whole game. We didn't get a result against City but we've played better than any other visiting team. This season we've scored more goals than anyone bar City. Sure, Suarez has played a massive part but we've also has 10 different goals scorers this season. How many clubs can say the same?
The problem is that there are fans who don't pay attention to the details because if they did, they'd note how far the club has come in the last 3 years.