Anyone is committee member?
security guard is most headache problem.
How to get good guard with reasonable rates?
Anyone have tried employ guard/warden under JMB payroll?
Joint Management Body (JMB/JMC), Committee Member
Joint Management Body (JMB/JMC), Committee Member
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Dec 19 2013, 04:44 PM
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Anyone is committee member?
security guard is most headache problem. How to get good guard with reasonable rates? Anyone have tried employ guard/warden under JMB payroll? |
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Dec 19 2013, 04:49 PM
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My place the main gate car security system always fail every other day. I wonder how much money we have given to the supplier. Sounds like permanent sucker !
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Dec 19 2013, 04:52 PM
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Dec 19 2013, 04:53 PM
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Dec 19 2013, 04:53 PM
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Dec 19 2013, 04:55 PM
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Wonder anybody can setup a database on good vendor.
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Dec 19 2013, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(mingyew @ Dec 19 2013, 04:53 PM) They put a big screen (either 32 inch TV or LCD monitor) show the car plate number ( is there a need for it ?) and other electronics in the open air.The water proofing is bad, and it's raining season. I think they got zapped every now and then. This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 19 2013, 04:59 PM |
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Dec 19 2013, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(mingyew @ Dec 19 2013, 04:44 PM) Anyone is committee member? Many legal and insurance issues involved ,so better outsource to a licensed scurity company to handle.security guard is most headache problem. How to get good guard with reasonable rates? Anyone have tried employ guard/warden under JMB payroll? By the way, our condo is paying $5.30 per hour rate to the company,we deployed 11 guards per sheet. If you want like the desa park city quality guards ,min rate is,$8~9 per hour. So our condo security cost is about 40k per month.. |
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Dec 19 2013, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(cpng75 @ Dec 19 2013, 05:01 PM) Many legal and insurance issues involved ,so better outsource to a licensed scurity company to handle. At least there are guards.By the way, our condo is paying $5.30 per hour rate to the company,we deployed 11 guards per sheet. If you want like the desa park city quality guards ,min rate is,$8~9 per hour. So our condo security cost is about 40k per month.. Nowadays thieves and robbers aim for those unguarded taman, easier target. Security in Bolehland so good that we have to rely on security guards of our own. |
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Dec 19 2013, 05:08 PM
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My advice
Try to get into committee, if you are new, just keep silent at first ,observed the management office ppl handling the jobs and the others old committee members... Try to get as much infos and attend the monthly meetings then after about 6 months later,you roughly figure out who is the hantu..and who are helpful ppl. |
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Dec 19 2013, 05:09 PM
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Dec 19 2013, 05:11 PM
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Many hantu in committee...especially those banana ppl control committee..80% have hantu inside the committee...look after their private pocket not the community interest.
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Dec 19 2013, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(mingyew @ Dec 19 2013, 04:44 PM) Anyone is committee member? My POV is not good idea to hire directly under JMB payroll. Don't expect the JMC Chairman/person or members to supervise them. Not mean impossible, but very2 challenging.. they already shoulder enou responsibilities without geting pay la!security guard is most headache problem. How to get good guard with reasonable rates? Anyone have tried employ guard/warden under JMB payroll? If interested, pm me ur PIC name and contact, I can introduce one security company for u. Not the best, consider good only. We have been using this company since 2009. |
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Dec 19 2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(Calculator2013 @ Dec 19 2013, 05:07 PM) At least there are guards. Even you are paying high rate to security company not mean you can what you need most becos they are human being..Nowadays thieves and robbers aim for those unguarded taman, easier target. Security in Bolehland so good that we have to rely on security guards of our own. So my experience you condo if have budget must also buck up your condo CCTV and door access system...because machines are more trustful than human..also can be traceable. Nowadays many condo have break in cases...90% are insider job |
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Dec 19 2013, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(cpng75 @ Dec 19 2013, 05:21 PM) Even you are paying high rate to security company not mean you can what you need most becos they are human being.. +1So my experience you condo if have budget must also buck up your condo CCTV and door access system...because machines are more trustful than human..also can be traceable. Nowadays many condo have break in cases...90% are insider job Agree!! Insider job lagi jia lat!! |
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Dec 28 2013, 07:10 PM
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i got myself nominated in AGM elections but lost due to some of the owners holding many proxy votes voting for their members only thus 2 members are always there.
apparently, these 2 fellas always corner several tenders with high price seems like a lost cause |
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Dec 28 2013, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(cpng75 @ Dec 19 2013, 05:01 PM) Many legal and insurance issues involved ,so better outsource to a licensed scurity company to handle. Agree that it is best that JMB does not hire guards directly. I know of one JMB which was fined ~RM10k for hiring a foreign guy as security guard. Don't know the exact details.By the way, our condo is paying $5.30 per hour rate to the company,we deployed 11 guards per sheet. If you want like the desa park city quality guards ,min rate is,$8~9 per hour. So our condo security cost is about 40k per month.. |
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Dec 28 2013, 08:59 PM
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Hi,
I am in the JMC, second term now. It is good to be involved if you can spare some time to help out in check & balance on the managing agent and to ensure procedures etc work out to the best of the interest of all residents. It's not easy as we've had very high staff turnover of MO staff & change of security company and unreasonable owners /residents. It's an uphill task for us but nevertheless we are still trying our very best. It would be good to share & learn from one another here, on issues we face daily in the JMC. We do not have anyone in our payroll. I understand that i's not easy to get our own building manager or head of security but sometimes I'm very tempted to suggest that as those under our employment, at least I think we may have a better control. I've heard of success stories of condo running on their own & not via any agent. Our agent fees also 5k & we outsource our security too. This post has been edited by Gami: Dec 28 2013, 09:04 PM |
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Dec 28 2013, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(Gami @ Dec 28 2013, 08:59 PM) Hi, Well done! Good for the community and urself.I am in the JMC, second term now. It is good to be involved if you can spare some time to help out in check & balance on the managing agent and to ensure procedures etc work out to the best of the interest of all residents. It's not easy as we've had very high staff turnover of MO staff & change of security company and unreasonable owners /residents. It's an uphill task for us but nevertheless we are still trying our very best. It would be good to share & learn from one another here, on issues we face daily in the JMC. We do not have anyone in our payroll. I understand that i's not easy to get our own building manager or head of security but sometimes I'm very tempted to suggest that as those under our employment, at least I think we may have a better control. I've heard of success stories of condo running on their own & not via any agent. Our agent fees also 5k & we outsource our security too. If everyone in JMC has their day job to meet the end need, try to avoid having to put too much times to manage direct reports. For 5k management fee, mind to dhare how many units 4 ur condo/aprt? |
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Dec 28 2013, 10:40 PM
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