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cpng75
post Dec 18 2013, 12:02 PM

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Serving the neighborhood also like doing a charity job..

Keep an eye on the costing of maintenance works,
try to maximum the dollar value from the collections.

You will be dealing many selfish ppl like the owners as well as the other committee members whom has private agenda..
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:08 PM

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The major costing of a condo management were the water/TNB/security.

Repaint the building is last job to considered becos still got others like lifts maintenance especially when the buildings were nearby 10 years old and above.
Many things are going to breakdown...especially the E&E equipments..they are very costing.
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:39 PM

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My condo are pratising change the lighting to T5 instead of LED..The costing of LEDs are the most expensive one,we just used it for spot lights.

T5 is more effective in costing& energy saving. They can bring down about 40% from normal TNB bills.

LEDs are expensive 2~3 times but lifeband is slightly 20% higher than T5..
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(12Digit @ Dec 18 2013, 12:32 PM)
Is there any salary for committee member or chairman?
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They are serving as a charity workers to the neighborhood...So is FOC

Some condos may have small meeting allowance or office bearer allowance.
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post Dec 18 2013, 01:02 PM

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We are doing more neighborhood friendly steps to encouraged more owners to get known to their neighborhood.

Announcement /notices are in three languages.Managements or owner meetings also in three languages.

Because many banana ppl using English only to prohibited others languages ppl to take participate so they can doing their own private interest agenda.
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:28 PM

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The best way is to employed a management company to take over daily jobs instead of JMC/MC,The Committee rules is to monitoring and decision maker.

Many mid or low cost condo/apt get to zero reserve fund problems are due to committees want to cut cost and kick off management company ,they themselves involved in daily jobs by hiring clerks to make the daily collections and supplies payment.
But corruption happened or miss use public funds...left out a lots shits ,they sold out their units..

Bye bye chaos!
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 19 2013, 12:30 PM)
interesting topic.
perhaps it is a wise choice after all for government to impose only qualified property managers to maintain buildings.
and let the property managers answer to the board.
at least get reputable property managers and you would safeguard 50% of the problems already.
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Not 100% correct ...you mean reputation property management company also not guarantee.


KJ was wellknow before but they send rubbish ppl to handle your condo and charge you higher rate..

Three of my condo already kicked them off last year after so many times warning issued.

Your guys must beware of KJ. Their service standard getting poorer after the founders sold out their stakes ..
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:55 PM

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My condo site is paying $5000 management fees +
20K staffs salaries/allowance fixed...any OT fees incurred were bear by the company.

My condo has 7 blocks with 16 floors..Total units is 902. 10 years old.

The management company give us 2 floor desk clerk + 2 executies[account + admin] + 3 handymans + 1 technician + manager.
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post Dec 19 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Dec 19 2013, 04:44 PM)
Anyone is committee member?

security guard is most headache problem.

How to get good guard with reasonable rates?

Anyone have tried employ guard/warden under JMB payroll?
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Many legal and insurance issues involved ,so better outsource to a licensed scurity company to handle.

By the way, our condo is paying $5.30 per hour rate to the company,we deployed 11 guards per sheet.

If you want like the desa park city quality guards ,min rate is,$8~9 per hour.

So our condo security cost is about 40k per month..
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post Dec 19 2013, 05:08 PM

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My advice

Try to get into committee, if you are new, just keep silent at first ,observed the management office ppl handling the jobs and the others old committee members...

Try to get as much infos and attend the monthly meetings then after about 6 months later,you roughly figure out who is the hantu..and who are helpful ppl.


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post Dec 19 2013, 05:11 PM

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Many hantu in committee...especially those banana ppl control committee..80% have hantu inside the committee...look after their private pocket not the community interest.
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post Dec 19 2013, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Calculator2013 @ Dec 19 2013, 05:07 PM)
At least there are guards.
Nowadays thieves and robbers aim for those unguarded taman, easier target.
Security in Bolehland so good that we have to rely on security guards of our own.
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Even you are paying high rate to security company not mean you can what you need most becos they are human being..

So my experience you condo if have budget must also buck up your condo CCTV and door access system...because machines are more trustful than human..also can be traceable.

Nowadays many condo have break in cases...90% are insider job
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post Dec 28 2013, 10:40 PM

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Hi...

Welcome on board ...sharing infos...
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post Dec 29 2013, 12:02 AM

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My advise..

Try to be neighborhood friendly ..use 3 languages in condo bulletin notices..

Keep the residents informed , let them getting interest into knowing things JMC are doing.
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post Jan 9 2014, 05:14 PM

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Very useful link for JMC members

Building and Common Property(Maintenance and Management) Act 2007Act 663
http://www.hba.org.my/laws/building/bcpAct2007.htm


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post Jan 9 2014, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Dec 30 2013, 02:23 PM)
I have noticed that the best condo management is actually with a JMB member (which is also a resident) in the management office. All decisions by the management's office must go thru this member. This means the JMB is running and hiring their own staff.

Pretty hard to get a full-time or part-time JMB member nowadays which can sit in office and overlook the management.
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Not exactly..

Hire third party management to handle the daily jobs..
MC/JMC members are not suppose to involve in directly because of interest of conflict issues.






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post Jan 9 2014, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Dec 29 2013, 09:51 AM)
In most pratice, not necessary apply for all, the management (agent) fee is fixed fee pay to Management Company and staffs cost is reimbursed with 5-10% markup.

Just to chk, the building mgr, buidling exe, clerk, technician, and handbyman are dedicated on-site resources, or shared resources but based at Management's (Agent's) office?
Also, interested to know how u manage the procurement and budget. Who is managing the account payable and receivable, and bank account?
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My condo have 7 blocks with about 900 units.
We have one basic swimming pool, tennis court,children playground,multipurpose hall with badminton courts inside.

We paid 5k management fees monthly plus about 23k fixed for staff salary.Staff OT allowances are borne by management agent company.

We are given 1 BM+1Admin+1 A/C+2 front desk clerks+ 1 chief tech+2 handymans.





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post Jan 9 2014, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Dec 28 2013, 07:10 PM)
i got myself nominated in AGM elections but lost due to some of the owners holding many proxy votes voting for their members only thus 2 members are always there.

apparently, these 2 fellas always corner several tenders with high price

seems like a lost cause
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According to the COB and the law of building and management.

Elected members are maximum 3 years/terms of service.

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post Jan 9 2014, 05:56 PM

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Although we are facing defict yearly but with give and take consideration.

We are giving out basic 1 month incentive[ purata] + 1 month performance incentive to selected staffs for their 2013 year performance.
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post Jan 9 2014, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Calculator2013 @ Jan 9 2014, 05:51 PM)
Wow, quite a number of staffs in Management Office.
Mind to share which company your condo engaged? smile.gif
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We kick out KJ in 2012 Nov due to poor performance and costly staffs allowances.

We are using Focus Management,they are very low profile chinese run management company.But with certain numbers of condos managed so can sharing resources and experience among their sites .

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