u not asking for 2 seat compensation rite? most brand midrange above can do.

pioneer elite mcacc got 6 memory bank.
denon marantz audyssey xt can load/ save from network ip address. i never try lah. now got fone app too.

side channel i put random pair only. after calibrate they are same

yeah, cos i watch movie drama i will lie on the bed, but i play game i will sit further in front using my computer chair, it is much closer to the TV. i am planning to buy denon x1600h tho. so actually the room correction will try to actually match the sound profile of all the speakers right? any side channel to recommend ka? i see pioneer bs22 is cheap and well recommended but worried too big. need something small and light. polk signature s10 too expensive

audyssey xt got multi seat compensation, you can put calibrator in front or beside after 1st position is saved. no need change profile one.

if you insist to, then research a bit on network function or app (it cost rm80 i just found zzzzz).
yes the program is modify all speakers.

side channel if u want to buy, recommend to match brand, diammeter, material of front channel, else any random pair are sufficient. audyssey will modify the Eq for everything to cinema style

ok.. if match then need to be big lol.. ok i just pick 1 and try. wow the app so expensive lol. but i think x1600h no support the app.. only s750h.. so weird, lower range support but higher range no support.

so u mean even if the 1st position and 2nd position is big difference, the compensation will do its magic?

In an AV receiver? Sort of, but not exactly. Yamaha Aventage (top 3 models only) allows you to set different "patterns" which acts like presets that you calibrate. You can switch between them anytime, but you do need to work a bit to calibrate twice for 2 different listening positions. That said, it doesn't work perfectly because although the PEQ you can be saved for 2 different presets, the speaker levels and distance (delay) will remain the same.

What you are describing can only be done with an external DSP module - like a minidsp for example.

Try to check this out. Cheap and good speakers. About RM750 per speaker. So 1 pair is about RM1500.

http://www.dls.se/index.html

i see.. then need to compromise, not having a perfect room is like tat lol.

this out of budget lol.. neeed something 500-600 only to try out the surround.

i forgotten.... extra position only compensate EQ & level not distance (affect each channel speed). sorry ssj Ben is correct.

since you sit very front during game, speed will not be linear.
need to save & load audyssey from computer or usb <- either way it will take a long time like 10++ minits process :x

pioneer elite one built in memory. just load on the go.

ah damn..like tat need think again how to do this.. arrgh.

Get a minidsp lol. Fixes all these dumb artificial locks that AVR manufacturers put into their system.

With a minidsp you can set up multiple presets, for all kind of situations. You can change presets (that you set up) at anytime. Honestly after I got a minidsp, I don't really care about the type of AVRs anymore. They're just so... weak and archaic.

minidsp which one a? minidsp is like pre-amp?

I'm using the 2x4HD.

Yes minidsp acts like a pre/pro. It takes some effort to set it up though and you need to know exactly what you want to achieve. Pretty much limitless possibilities in what you want to do with a minidsp.

some call it dac also bro? or is it a different thing in your context?

of course not a dac (1 function only)
dsp do much more than that. mainly do sound correction in a room

i see

Not using its function as a DAC. I'm using it to PEQ my subs - does a way better job than any built in automated room correction like Audyssey, YPAO, or MCACC. IMO it's even better than DIRAC or ARC too.

Being able to time align, phase adjust and apply the filters I want for the EQ process is too good to pass up. You want good bass, you need a minidsp (or any other DSP modules like antimode as the other popular alternative).

Best RM1.2k that I've ever spent. I'd rate the miniDSP 2x4HD as the most important thing in my system after the speakers. It is THAT good.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Apr 10 2020, 03:43 PM

teach me what is phase & what value is good to follow

This post has been edited by ktek: Apr 10 2020, 05:36 PM

Phase is the signal in which the sub plays, whether it is in or out of phase. In 0 degrees, the driver will be driving forwards (as if it's exhaling), in 180 degrees it does the opposite. Depending on the sub, some allows variable phase so you can set between 0 to 180. MiniDSP allows you to manipulate it further by using filters as well.

There is no golden number and a "good value" to follow is not accurate. It depends on how you locate your subs. If you just put in the front, generally 0 degree phase is recommended but sometimes you may want to change it if you're doing stereo bass for example.

Phase is important when you put subs in opposite directions of a room. You have to measure at your MLP with a calibrated mic to see what's going on with your room acoustics to determine what phase value to use. Just tuning by ear is illogical because the directionality of human ears are trash below 80hz.

Does it makes sense for me, who only has 1 sub with no plans to get another in the near future to get a minidsp 2x4hd?it seems like a product for those who have more than 1 sub. But isn't it also to overall help with frequency response across the front speakers too, apart from sub?
And it also helps with eliminating nulls which may still happen with 1 sub due to the room?

Thinking I should perhaps only get the UMIK 1 for now and try to smooth out the response as much as possible using that.