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post Dec 15 2018, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(dex-brz @ Dec 14 2018, 10:14 PM)
plan to get a new 5.1.2 speakers (floorstand, center, surround and height) for my living area, mostly for Movies.

any advise or recommendation? im looking at Klipsch, Jamo and Q Acoustics, to pair with a Denon or Onkyo
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Klipsch sells like 40 speakers... all at different price points and categories, which line are you looking at?

Jamo and QA in Malaysia pretty much only consists of their newer and EOL stuff. Jamo makes some amazing speakers but they also have some shitty ones, so which one are you looking at?
For QA, read the posts above yours.
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post Dec 15 2018, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 15 2018, 08:39 PM)
Klipsch sells like 40 speakers... all at different price points and categories, which line are you looking at?

Jamo and QA in Malaysia pretty much only consists of their newer and EOL stuff. Jamo makes some amazing speakers but they also have some shitty ones, so which one are you looking at?
For QA, read the posts above yours.
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Thanks for your reply

Im looking at Klipsch RP 6000f series..or maybe R series (if RP is too much / overkill for my living area)

If Jamo, s807. The cheaper range is 626..is it good?

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post Dec 17 2018, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(dex-brz @ Dec 15 2018, 11:37 PM)
Thanks for your reply

Im looking at Klipsch RP 6000f series..or maybe R series (if RP is too much / overkill for my living area)

If Jamo, s807. The cheaper range is 626..is it good?
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Overkill is a pointless term in audio. You can have 20, 15-inch driver subs in a 1000 square foot room if you wish and have the money to do so - only thing that matters is how you implement it into the room.

Anyways; the Klipsch RP600 series is basically a rebrand of their older RP150/2xx series line. There's really not much difference in them other than the looks and some extra refinements on the crossover. They're good speakers, especially if you want to play loud due to their high sensitivity and don't want to deal with multiple external amps. But bear in mind like many Klipsch speakers, they do have a forward "V" shape sound that tends to compliment action movies where you'd generally want things to "kick you in the face".
They can be a little bright depending on content, so it's subjective whether you can deal with the elevated treble range. Some people like them, some don't. But unlike their old RF series line which was infamous for being borderline harsh, the RP series are much more neutral to the ears in comparison.

For Jamo, I had set up a set of s807 for a friend's place few months ago. Don't have much time with it, only watched a couple movies and an hour or so music with it. But from what I can remember, they are nice sounding "mellow" speakers. Almost like the Q Acoustics 30xx series if you ask me, just with more definition in the mids and treble. The only qualm I have with them is the center channel, it's... not bad, but not very good either. For HT, you always want your center speaker to be as good if not better than the main L/R since 70-90% of the content comes out of there. The Jamo s83 center (IIRC that's the one my friend got), it just can't go very loud before distortion starts to be noticeable - at least not for his room size. It does depend how far you sit and how loud you listen to your content though, it may be enough for you.


So, both line of speakers has faults. Nothing is perfect. I suggest you go listen to them in a proper room and get an idea of how they sound. But remember, different rooms will cause speakers to sound different too. So don't base your conclusions on speakers simply on what you hear in a store, because that store isn't your living room.
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post Dec 17 2018, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 17 2018, 03:22 PM)
Overkill is a pointless term in audio. You can have 20, 15-inch driver subs in a 1000 square foot room if you wish and have the money to do so - only thing that matters is how you implement it into the room.

Anyways; the Klipsch RP600 series is basically a rebrand of their older RP150/2xx series line. There's really not much difference in them other than the looks and some extra refinements on the crossover. They're good speakers, especially if you want to play loud due to their high sensitivity and don't want to deal with multiple external amps. But bear in mind like many Klipsch speakers, they do have a forward "V" shape sound that tends to compliment action movies where you'd generally want things to "kick you in the face".
They can be a little bright depending on content, so it's subjective whether you can deal with the elevated treble range. Some people like them, some don't. But unlike their old RF series line which was infamous for being borderline harsh, the RP series are much more neutral to the ears in comparison.

For Jamo, I had set up a set of s807 for a friend's place few months ago. Don't have much time with it, only watched a couple movies and an hour or so music with it. But from what I can remember, they are nice sounding "mellow" speakers. Almost like the Q Acoustics 30xx series if you ask me, just with more definition in the mids and treble. The only qualm I have with them is the center channel, it's... not bad, but not very good either. For HT, you always want your center speaker to be as good if not better than the main L/R since 70-90% of the content comes out of there. The Jamo s83 center (IIRC that's the one my friend got), it just can't go very loud before distortion starts to be noticeable - at least not for his room size. It does depend how far you sit and how loud you listen to your content though, it may be enough for you.
So, both line of speakers has faults. Nothing is perfect. I suggest you go listen to them in a proper room and get an idea of how they sound. But remember, different rooms will cause speakers to sound different too. So don't base your conclusions on speakers simply on what you hear in a store, because that store isn't your living room.
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very informative, thanks for your sharing

how about the S807 S8 ATM Atmos speakers? did u manage to try out the Atmos effects with the speakers, any good?

im not sure where can i find these HT with proper setup and room to try them out/demo. seems like no dedicated showroom for these..

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post Dec 17 2018, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(dex-brz @ Dec 17 2018, 07:51 PM)
very informative, thanks for your sharing

how about the S807 S8 ATM Atmos speakers? did u manage to try out the Atmos effects with the speakers, any good?
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No, never even bothered to try out the Atmos modules because bouncing height speakers are trash, pointless and worst of all - expensive.

We opted to use in-ceiling speakers instead, was cheap too. RM800+ for a pair of Yamaha 8" drivers (I think it was the IC800 IIRC) cheap as F - but more importantly can play super loud without crapping itself which is pretty much all that matters for height effects.

If you want to do Atmos, do it once - do it right, otherwise forget it and just put your money into more important things like a better sub or the main LCR speakers.

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post Dec 17 2018, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 17 2018, 08:01 PM)
No, never even bothered to try out the Atmos modules because bouncing height speakers are trash, pointless and worst of all - expensive.

We opted to use in-ceiling speakers instead, was cheap too. RM800+ for a pair of Yamaha 8" drivers (I think it was the IC800 IIRC) cheap as F - but more importantly can play super loud without crapping itself which is pretty much all that matters for height effects.

If you want to do Atmos, do it once - do it right, otherwise forget it and just put your money into more important things like a better sub or the main LCR speakers.
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as for ATMOS ceiling 6 or 8 inch make big different? planning to get 2 or 4.... haha.. 2 or 4 in small area.. maybe i would go for 2..or 4 is plausible?
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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Dec 17 2018, 08:58 PM)
as for ATMOS ceiling 6 or 8 inch make big different? planning to get 2 or 4.... haha.. 2 or 4 in small area.. maybe i would go for 2..or 4 is plausible?
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Bigger is better. Go for 4 to have more even sounded
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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Dec 17 2018, 08:58 PM)
as for ATMOS ceiling 6 or 8 inch make big different? planning to get 2 or 4.... haha.. 2 or 4 in small area.. maybe i would go for 2..or 4 is plausible?
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The bigger the better. Would have even opted for 10", too bad wasn't in stock.

If your ceiling and sitting area can accomodate 4, then do 4. Remember, do it once - do it right.
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4 would be the best but make sure your AV amp is able to handle 4 atmos speaker.

most AV amp comes in 7, 9, 11 channel configuration therefore you would need to know if the AV amp is able to accommodate 4 atmos speaker. Some 9ch AV amp is able to process 11 channel but you would need to add 2ch power amp to run full 11 speaker.

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Dec 17 2018, 08:58 PM)
as for ATMOS ceiling 6 or 8 inch make big different? planning to get 2 or 4.... haha.. 2 or 4 in small area.. maybe i would go for 2..or 4 is plausible?
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Go as big as you can.
I'm using Klipsch CDT-5800-C II. Despite being 8", I'm quite disappointed with the audio quality due to lack of enclosure/backbox, but it is to be expected.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 26 2018, 04:19 PM)
Go as big as you can.
I'm using Klipsch CDT-5800-C II. Despite being 8", I'm quite disappointed with the audio quality due to lack of enclosure/backbox, but it is to be expected.
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Part of a reason why I switched to SVS Prime Elevations. Dinky little 4.5" drivers but surprisingly, quite adept. Wish SVS would make a 6.5" Elevations though.

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Dec 3 2018, 10:20 AM)
dont worrry about it. it is safe because when an amp is rated at 200w per channel, doesnt mean that it will output 200w constantly.

you may only get max 200w when there is a sudden burst of loud sound from the movie. even so, it will not damage the speaker as these are very short burst of just few millisecond.

it is more worrying if the amp is underpower as this will cause clipping to the amp. when an amp is operating near clipping output, distortion will be exponential and these distortion will damage your speaker.
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hi, need sifu's opinion here. i am new in AV. i've been using a budget yamaha receiver rx-v377 pair with sony floorstander MF550H in 2.0 configuration, specs as below, normally i listen at 60% volume level. my concern is:-
1. Is this okayish pair?
2. will the speaker clipping the amp?

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Yamaha RX-V377

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MF550H

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QUOTE(myxery @ Jan 2 2019, 12:42 PM)
hi, need sifu's opinion here. i am new in AV. i've been using a budget yamaha receiver rx-v377 pair with sony floorstander MF550H in 2.0 configuration, specs as below, normally i listen at 60% volume level. my concern is:-
1. Is this okayish pair?
2. will the speaker clipping the amp?

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Yamaha RX-V377

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MF550H
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its pretty safe that i see.. if 60% vol is moderate level for your listening, it should be good.. if you need to run your avr>80% of the vol then its time to upgrade your avr or to consider power amp.

its amp sending clipping signal to speaker not speaker clipping the amp. In your case it should be fine. But listen to other expert in this thread too..
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QUOTE(myxery @ Jan 2 2019, 12:42 PM)
hi, need sifu's opinion here. i am new in AV. i've been using a budget yamaha receiver rx-v377 pair with sony floorstander MF550H in 2.0 configuration, specs as below, normally i listen at 60% volume level. my concern is:-
1. Is this okayish pair?
2. will the speaker clipping the amp?

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Don't see an issue to be honest. The v377 has about 70w for 2 channels, full bandwidth. It's not a tank so unless you are planning to play those MF550H in a big room at a high volume, you shouldn't run into clipping issues. Since the MF550H is also a fairly efficient speaker (assuming that 88db/w is true), you're good to go.
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 2 2019, 12:59 PM)
its pretty safe that i see.. if 60% vol is moderate level for your listening, it should be good.. if you need to run your avr>80% of the vol then its time to upgrade your avr or to consider power amp.

its amp sending clipping signal to speaker not speaker clipping the amp. In your case it should be fine. But listen to other expert in this thread too..
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 3 2019, 03:56 PM)
Don't see an issue to be honest. The v377 has about 70w for 2 channels, full bandwidth. It's not a tank so unless you are planning to play those MF550H in a big room at a high volume, you shouldn't run into clipping issues. Since the MF550H is also a fairly efficient speaker (assuming that 88db/w is true), you're good to go.
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thank you for the feedback. Glad to hear that.
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Anyone tried these yamaha speakers?
http://www.stylelaser.com.my/product/yamah...peaker-package/

Very good reviews on Amazon but no other reviews can be found.

Or should I just bite the bullet and get either elacs or q acoustics? Upgrading from Jamo jamo a102hcs5 bought 10 years ago 😅.
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QUOTE(takr @ Jan 5 2019, 05:17 PM)
Anyone tried these yamaha speakers?
http://www.stylelaser.com.my/product/yamah...peaker-package/

Very good reviews on Amazon but no other reviews can be found.

Or should I just bite the bullet and get either elacs or q acoustics? Upgrading from Jamo jamo a102hcs5 bought 10 years ago 😅.
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Heard only the towers before, they are.... meh. The center speaker being so small is kinda of a downer tbh - it's the most important speaker yet in this package, it's by far the worst speaker. confused.gif

I suggest you get either ELAC or QA instead. Don't have to buy every speaker at once. Just put all your money into the L/R and Center speaker first, then the sub then surrounds can be whatever. All surrounds need to be are they can play loud without crapping itself - unless you want to squeeze out that last 10% of soundstage immersiveness for an obscene amount of money.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 6 2019, 04:51 PM)
Heard only the towers before, they are.... meh. The center speaker being so small is kinda of a downer tbh - it's the most important speaker yet in this package, it's by far the worst speaker.  confused.gif

I suggest you get either ELAC or QA instead. Don't have to buy every speaker at once. Just put all your money into the L/R and Center speaker first, then the sub then surrounds can be whatever. All surrounds need to be are they can play loud without crapping itself - unless you want to squeeze out that last 10% of soundstage immersiveness for an obscene amount of money.
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Noted thanks!
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QUOTE(takr @ Jan 5 2019, 05:17 PM)
Anyone tried these yamaha speakers?
http://www.stylelaser.com.my/product/yamah...peaker-package/

Very good reviews on Amazon but no other reviews can be found.

Or should I just bite the bullet and get either elacs or q acoustics? Upgrading from Jamo jamo a102hcs5 bought 10 years ago 😅.
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q acoustic…wilayah av always got good deals

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