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post Apr 5 2017, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 5 2017, 03:04 PM)
You can change all the power cables in your house, but can you change all the power cables coming to your house from the power station(s)?

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Using shielded audiophile cables is to prevent interference after power being filtered from whatever filtering block and splitter. Assuming those contamination of noise within the TNB supply will be filtered out after the block

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post Apr 5 2017, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Apr 5 2017, 05:54 PM)
Using shielded audiophile cables is to prevent interference after power being filtered from whatever filtering block and splitter. Assuming those contamination of noise within the TNB supply will be filtered out after the block
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Ah, the good ol' "skin effect" explanation. So you're basically saying the AC line that comes into the house, after being converted into DC is not a "flat" line going into the components and audiophile cables will "filter" that DC voltage into something just linear, correct?

Explain to me then how does a cable which has no receptors change a DC line that is not flat, to be... "flat"? I mean, the power cables has no transformer at all between the A plug and B plug, so are you telling me that a passive IEC block can somehow change the incoming DC voltage?

I know this subject is touchy and I hope there isn't any offense, but I've never been given a straight answer of how an entirely passive cable can do something to a line-in voltage. I want to know so I can justify spending RM1k for a 2ft power chord thicker than my penis.
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post Apr 5 2017, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 5 2017, 05:51 PM)
Most high end avr usually can... mine oso kenot!
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post Apr 5 2017, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Apr 5 2017, 07:58 PM)
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Sr6011, Rxa2060!!! tongue.gif
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post Apr 5 2017, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 5 2017, 09:26 PM)
Sr6011, Rxa2060!!! tongue.gif
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Can consider rxa2060 too 😋😋😋
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Apr 5 2017, 10:06 PM)
Can consider rxa2060 too 😋😋😋
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At first, I thought of A2060 also but sifu advised me to save up and go for a3060... as some got a2060 regretted then folk out $ again for a3060... I been through this for my past experience, so now I will try to go for the best that I could afford rather upgrading all the time which cost more at the end!

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 5 2017, 11:29 PM)
At first, I thought of A2060 also but sifu advised me to save up and go for a3060... as some got a2060 regretted then folk out $ again for a3060... I been through this for my past experience, so now I will try to go for the best that I could afford rather upgrading all the time which cost more at the end!
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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Apr 5 2017, 05:54 PM)
Using shielded audiophile cables is to prevent interference after power being filtered from whatever filtering block and splitter. Assuming those contamination of noise within the TNB supply will be filtered out after the block
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Don't have to argue with sifu "Ben". You will never be right 😆

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 5 2017, 11:29 PM)
At first, I thought of A2060 also but sifu advised me to save up and go for a3060... as some got a2060 regretted then folk out $ again for a3060... I been through this for my past experience, so now I will try to go for the best that I could afford rather upgrading all the time which cost more at the end!
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Yup very true bro agree with u
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 6 2017, 03:42 AM)
Don't have to argue with sifu "Ben". You will never be right 😆
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post Apr 6 2017, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Apr 4 2017, 11:54 PM)
Very true power cables dam expensive but u can diy it many sifu doing that....i have test marantz sr5010 in shop the seller said need to change power cable to make it sounds​ good but the cable is dam expensive so i drop the idea
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How was the 5010 compared to your v681? It didn't sound good?

The changing cable thing sounds like snake oil to me coz if new power cables can make a difference they are implying that the original cables are defective/crap?
I don't really understand the logic of this power socket and power cable thingy. Is it just a placebo affect or there is some truth to it?
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post Apr 6 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 6 2017, 10:38 AM)
How was the 5010 compared to your v681? It didn't sound good?

The changing cable thing sounds like snake oil to me coz if new power cables can make a difference they are implying that the original cables are defective/crap?
I don't really understand the logic of this power socket and power cable thingy. Is it just a placebo affect or there is some truth to it?
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No one can give u accurate answers but you need to try it yourself! You don't need to folk thousands for pair of cables but instead try to get some mayb wt brands or recommended ones through reviews by some users from AVS, Audioholics forums and etc... or go to local av shop for a test... after demo it if no difference then better don't waste your money but if noticed difference on the sound quality then you decide whether to get it or not...

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 6 2017, 10:56 AM)
No one can give u accurate answers but you need to try it yourself! You don't need to folk thousands for pair of cables but instead try to get some mayb wt brands or recommended ones through reviews by some users from AVS, Audioholics forums and etc...  or go to local av shop for a test... after demo it if no difference then better don't waste your money but if noticed difference on the sound quality then you decide whether to get it or not...
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Good suggestion! Will try to test with different cables the next time I go for a demo.
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 6 2017, 11:01 AM)
Good suggestion! Will try to test with different cables the next time I go for a demo.
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 6 2017, 10:56 AM)
No one can give u accurate answers but you need to try it yourself! You don't need to folk thousands for pair of cables but instead try to get some mayb wt brands or recommended ones through reviews by some users from AVS, Audioholics forums and etc...  or go to local av shop for a test... after demo it if no difference then better don't waste your money but if noticed difference on the sound quality then you decide whether to get it or not...
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 6 2017, 10:38 AM)
How was the 5010 compared to your v681? It didn't sound good?

The changing cable thing sounds like snake oil to me coz if new power cables can make a difference they are implying that the original cables are defective/crap?
I don't really understand the logic of this power socket and power cable thingy. Is it just a placebo affect or there is some truth to it?
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if u have desktop pc. lcd screen. or water kettle periuk nasi that use iec plug.
swap with ur amp. hear to believe it
some logic of fuse (uk plug) is the heat generated changing resistance.

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 6 2017, 12:46 PM)
if u have desktop pc. lcd screen. or water kettle periuk nasi that use iec plug.
swap with ur amp. hear to believe it
some logic of fuse (uk plug) is the heat generated changing resistance.
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I thought of doing that but my entry level amp don't have removable cables. My sub's cable is removable but the IEC on the sub has a different shape compared to the standard IEC used in Malaysia so I can't try on that also. Have to try asking at the A/V shop about this.
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Why view the absence of detachable power cable negatively? It means one less contact point that will give rise to sound degradation.

If need to change to another power cable, just solder the new cable directly to the equipment. Much better off this way.
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 6 2017, 10:38 AM)
How was the 5010 compared to your v681? It didn't sound good?

The changing cable thing sounds like snake oil to me coz if new power cables can make a difference they are implying that the original cables are defective/crap?
I don't really understand the logic of this power socket and power cable thingy. Is it just a placebo affect or there is some truth to it?
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Because it is snake oil.

A power cable needs to meet one main specification - be of sufficient gauge so that it does not resist or alter the current from point A to point B. That's it.

Why do people say they hear a difference when changing out their stock cable? Plenty of reasons and if I list it all out, people will get offended (for whatever reasons).
But you can buy a RM3 power chord from an electrical store, cut it open and you'll see that often times, the amount of copper in whichever lines (ground, neutral, live) are a joke. Many fuses are also refurbished in these cheap power chords that has corrosion on them already.


QUOTE(skeelee @ Apr 6 2017, 03:36 PM)
Why view the absence of detachable power cable negatively? It means one less contact point that will give rise to sound degradation.

If need to change to another power cable, just solder the new cable directly to the equipment. Much better off this way.
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Many people don't even know the proper way of holding a solder gun and know the difference between the types of solder materials, much less to say opening their amps to do a basic cable swap.

So...

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