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post Apr 6 2017, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 6 2017, 03:30 PM)
I thought of doing that but my entry level amp don't have removable cables. My sub's cable is removable but the IEC on the sub has a different shape compared to the standard IEC used in Malaysia so I can't try on that also. Have to try asking at the A/V shop about this.
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maybe if you have friends or someone you know does have detachable type of AVR, you can try out.
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post Apr 6 2017, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(skeelee @ Apr 6 2017, 03:36 PM)
Why view the absence of detachable power cable negatively? It means one less contact point that will give rise to sound degradation.

If need to change to another power cable, just solder the new cable directly to the equipment. Much better off this way.
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the ori saiz is small 2x0.75mmsq.
but cable does not affect sound as much as a fuse

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post Apr 6 2017, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 6 2017, 03:42 PM)
Because it is snake oil.

A power cable needs to meet one main specification - be of sufficient gauge so that it does not resist or alter the current from point A to point B. That's it.

Why do people say they hear a difference when changing out their stock cable? Plenty of reasons and if I list it all out, people will get offended (for whatever reasons).
But you can buy a RM3 power chord from an electrical store, cut it open and you'll see that often times, the amount of copper in whichever lines (ground, neutral, live) are a joke. Many fuses are also refurbished in these cheap power chords that has corrosion on them already.
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I have read a few controversial threads on AVforums & AVSforum and I realize that there are tons of things related to hifi & audio that always splits the believers & non-believers.
What I concluded from those threads was that there are no conclusions to such things biggrin.gif

I guess I will just have to test it out myself and I hope I don't hear any differences coz then it will be one less thing to worry about and spend on.

What you said about power chords is very true, since copper price increased substantially in the mid 2000s, most cables have substantially less copper since then. I remember buying cables in the late '90s and you get lots of copper in it for the low price. Cheap plugs also fail easily due to cheap fuses. I have since stopped buying the standard hardware shop grade stuff and willingly pay more for the better quality plugs cost they simply last long.
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post Apr 6 2017, 09:11 PM

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post Apr 6 2017, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 6 2017, 10:38 AM)
How was the 5010 compared to your v681? It didn't sound good?

The changing cable thing sounds like snake oil to me coz if new power cables can make a difference they are implying that the original cables are defective/crap?
I don't really understand the logic of this power socket and power cable thingy. Is it just a placebo affect or there is some truth to it?
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If compare with Yamaha rxv681 Marantz sr5010 definitely have clean sound but movie dialog too soft the background sound kinda too soft while Yamaha perform well on dialog actually although it sound abit noisy if compare to Marantz..other sr5010 user also feel the same problem like bro chachin...i didn't try different power cable on sr5010 while demo that day although the seller suggest upgrade the power cable if need better sound..i think Marantz sr5011 should not have this kind problem but try to demo first bro...

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post Apr 6 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Apr 6 2017, 09:14 PM)
If compare with Yamaha rxv681 Marantz sr5010 definitely have clean sound but movie dialog to soft the background sound kinda too soft while Yamaha perform well on dialog actually although it sound abit noisy if compare to Marantz..other sr5010 user also feel the same problem like bro chachin...i didn't try different power cable on sr5010 while demo that day although the seller suggest upgrade the power cable if need better sound..i think Marantz sr5011 should not have this kind problem but try to demo first bro...
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Well I'm sorry bro if this sounds offensive, but that seller is full of shit then.

While I don't discard the fact that amps can sound different (because they measure differently, therefore they CAN sound different), but comparing your v681 which is situated in your home vs a 5010 in a shop is like comparing Indian curry to Mexican salsa. 2 different things yo!

What you hear in the seller's demo room is not what you will hear in your room. You mentioned dialogue being "soft", but can you be certain that the seller has actually corrected/calibrated the center channel levels? I mean, are the speakers even placed correctly in the first place?

It just sounds to me that the seller is purposely making the SR5010 sound bad and then say "get a better power cable, will improve sound". Wtf kind of advice is that?
That's like saying; if I need to cook nicer rice, I need to get a better rice cooker! Does that even sound logical?

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post Apr 6 2017, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 6 2017, 10:50 PM)
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Well I'm sorry bro if this sounds offensive, but that seller is full of shit then.

While I don't discard the fact that amps can sound different (because they measure differently, therefore they CAN sound different), but comparing your v681 which is situated in your home vs a 5010 in a shop is like comparing Indian curry to Mexican salsa. 2 different things yo!

What you hear in the seller's demo room is not what you will hear in your room. You mentioned dialogue being "soft", but can you be certain that the seller has actually corrected/calibrated the center channel levels? I mean, are the speakers even placed correctly in the first place?

It just sounds to me that the seller is purposely making the SR5010 sound bad and then say "get a better power cable, will improve sound". Wtf kind of advice is that?
That's like saying; if I need to cook nicer rice, I need to get a better rice cooker! Does that even sound logical?
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Didn't sound offensive bro no problem im still learning.Yup agree with u bro maybe the seller trying to push the power cable too..but I demo both Yamaha rxv681 and Marantz sr5010 in the shop..he using klipsh speaker system..i think he didn't calibrate the room with supplied mic he just demo it..for newbie is really hard to understand what they are doing maybe after this with little experienced I can demand more from the seller when demo...

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 6 2017, 03:42 PM)
Because it is snake oil.

A power cable needs to meet one main specification - be of sufficient gauge so that it does not resist or alter the current from point A to point B. That's it.

Why do people say they hear a difference when changing out their stock cable? Plenty of reasons and if I list it all out, people will get offended (for whatever reasons).
But you can buy a RM3 power chord from an electrical store, cut it open and you'll see that often times, the amount of copper in whichever lines (ground, neutral, live) are a joke. Many fuses are also refurbished in these cheap power chords that has corrosion on them already.
Many people don't even know the proper way of holding a solder gun and know the difference between the types of solder materials, much less to say opening their amps to do a basic cable swap.

So...
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Haha,

I dont subscribe to snake oil .. either but there are thousands tat do..
So to me .. to each his own.. if u hear got difference.. then so be it.. not for me to say otherwise..
To tis ppl, no proof is needed except to their ears..
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post Apr 7 2017, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Apr 6 2017, 09:14 PM)
If compare with Yamaha rxv681 Marantz sr5010 definitely have clean sound but movie dialog too soft the background sound kinda too soft while Yamaha perform well on dialog actually although it sound abit noisy if compare to Marantz..other sr5010 user also feel the same problem like bro chachin...i didn't try different power cable on sr5010 while demo that day although the seller suggest upgrade the power cable if need better sound..i think Marantz sr5011 should not have this kind problem but try to demo first bro...
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Thanks bro, clean sounding is good enough. I think the dialogue & background sound can be fixed through audyssey or manual adjustment.
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post Apr 7 2017, 09:55 AM

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I'm currently using the thin white speaker cables which I had for a long time (came with Yamaha package speakers). Any tips on where to get good speaker cables which are reasonably priced? 16 AWG should be good enough right? Maximum run will be 30 feet for rear surrounds. Not looking for fancy stuff but something that has a decent amount of copper.
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Apr 5 2017, 12:29 AM)
Sorry bro i didn't buy anything from audio art....u are going to pay high why not go straight and check the item by yourself bro...bring your family together to kl on weekend...im from taiping actually...u can check at cmy penang like stilo bro said another shop u can look at bercham ipoh audio concept gallery he have few brands too can ask for demo for sure https://m.facebook.com/audioconceptgallery/ call them
Luckily yamaha 681 power cable is not removable 😜😜😜
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daam hard trust audio art

i still can trust style leser and hi-way laser

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post Apr 7 2017, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Apr 7 2017, 11:22 AM)
daam hard trust audio art

i still can trust style leser and hi-way laser
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Mind sharing why can't trust Audio Art?
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 7 2017, 11:46 AM)
Mind sharing why can't trust Audio Art?
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because (sivanathan04) he saying Sorry bro i didn't buy anything from audio art

i know many people already buy avr shop for style leser and hi-way laser
i have read for lowyat forum

i had contact hi-way laser he got stock Denon AVR-X6200W PRICE RM9500 and Denon AVR-X6300 RM10500
Audio Art he got stock Denon AVR-X6200W PRICE RM6999 and Denon AVR-X6300 RM11500

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Audio Art someone haven't deal sad.gif

i know someone already deal both style leser and hi-way laser sad.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Apr 7 2017, 12:37 PM)
because (sivanathan04) he saying Sorry bro i didn't buy anything from audio art

i know many people already buy avr shop for style leser and hi-way laser
i have read for lowyat forum

i had contact hi-way laser he got stock Denon AVR-X6200W PRICE RM9500 and Denon AVR-X6300 RM10500
Audio Art he got stock Denon AVR-X6200W PRICE RM6999 and Denon AVR-X6300 RM11500

bangwall.gif

Audio Art someone haven't deal  sad.gif

i know someone already deal both style leser and hi-way laser  sad.gif
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Wow so much difference on the pricing between Audio Art and SL for AVR-X6200W! typo is it... can whallop if RM6999!
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post Apr 7 2017, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Apr 7 2017, 12:37 PM)
because (sivanathan04) he saying Sorry bro i didn't buy anything from audio art

i know many people already buy avr shop for style leser and hi-way laser
i have read for lowyat forum

i had contact hi-way laser he got stock Denon AVR-X6200W PRICE RM9500 and Denon AVR-X6300 RM10500
Audio Art he got stock Denon AVR-X6200W PRICE RM6999 and Denon AVR-X6300 RM11500

bangwall.gif

Audio Art someone haven't deal  sad.gif

i know someone already deal both style leser and hi-way laser  sad.gif
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I said I didn't have experience with that shop maybe other people have buy something from audio art...the price differences is so much did u ask nego from hiwaylaser?? If audio art giving the best price go for it if really have doubt go there and buy yourself
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 7 2017, 12:59 PM)
Wow so much difference on the pricing between Audio Art and SL for AVR-X6200W! typo is it... can whallop if RM6999!
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yah sad.gif i need X6200W enough i don't need new model X6300 because HEOS no need no use wireless speaker
6200W enough

QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Apr 7 2017, 01:32 PM)
I said I didn't have experience with that shop maybe other people have buy something from audio art...the price differences is so much did u ask nego from hiwaylaser?? If audio art giving the best price go for it if really have doubt go there and buy yourself
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i already ask nego hiwaylaser for Denon X6200W he told me can't nego fixed RM9500 sad

i know its old model Denon X6200W

i unable to go Audio Art

he can ship Penang


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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 7 2017, 09:55 AM)
I'm currently using the thin white speaker cables which I had for a long time (came with Yamaha package speakers). Any tips on where to get good speaker cables which are reasonably priced? 16 AWG should be good enough right? Maximum run will be 30 feet for rear surrounds. Not looking for fancy stuff but something that has a decent amount of copper.
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Try oxygen cable.
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post Apr 7 2017, 01:48 PM

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Just to share that this just came http://www.audioholics.com/editorials/deno...lteq-editor-app

The apps only available for 6300 and not 6200. You can can consider

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