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post Nov 25 2016, 08:56 AM

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Any different using branded power cord compare with oem or product that come provided for.tq

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 25 2016, 08:56 AM)
Any different using branded power cord compare with oem or product that come provided for.tq
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The material is the matter not the brand
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Nov 24 2016, 10:33 PM)
Nope. Happy with PB13U. Maybe want to add one more
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Ya, time to go for dual sub now... i supposed u still using single sub rite, as seen on your HT room photos previously?

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 25 2016, 08:56 AM)
Any different using branded power cord compare with oem or product that come provided for.tq
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Read this: http://www.audioholics.com/audio-video-cables/power-cables


Keywords are: "well-made cables".

Most mid-range receivers, amps of any kind (intergrated, power amps, tubes, whatever) comes with a cable that is already CERTIFIED and TESTED to perform without any issues that would hamper the performance of the product it is being connected to.

However, because we are in Malaysia and our SIRIM certifications can all be songlap behind closed doors, then you may want to check what kind of who-knows-where made cables you are getting out of the box.

I personally just buy a reel of Gotham 85225 GPC for all my equipments. It's reasonably cheap (not some furutech voodoo bullshit) and is very well made.
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for uk plug socket. cable itself are not affecting as much as fuse
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Nov 25 2016, 12:59 PM)
Ya, time to go for dual sub now... i supposed u still using single sub rite, as seen on your HT room photos previously?
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Yeah still on single PB13U. Yeah if upgrade next will be dual sub
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 25 2016, 08:56 AM)
Any different using branded power cord compare with oem or product that come provided for.tq
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there's a lot to just a cabling question....whether a branded will be better than an OEM.....short answer....not necessary

understanding basic fundamentals regarding cable cores, cable materials and some electrical and electronics will come in handy

some people believe cables won't make a difference....some believe it does....

it all starts with your very home power cabling....

from the fuse to the wall socket.....if you are running a single 2.5mm cable from ur fuse to your wall socket which shares among maybe 4 to 5 equipment...
if you think a Richard Gray or Quantum Resonant can help you fix your power issue......then the way off applying is wrong....

to begin with proper cabling...it would be advisable to multiple fuses and multiple power lines going from your fuse to your equipment....
esp the power amps and subwoofer should have its own dedicated powerlines.....
why??

bcoz generally in MY....when electrician lay consealed cables, they will use the normal Mega/Fajar/Jaya 7 strand copper cables....so unless you specify to use a 75strand or 105 strand copper.....

what's the difference? basically speed of electrons travelling over the surface of conductor....this is something perhaps read in E&E.....also....current flows to wherever that has a lower impedance....

in short.....if you are using a common wall socket that you are not sure connected so whatever other house hold items....a few hundred or few K power cord....will not do any good....bcoz the setup is not optimized nor able to show any benefits of the cable


cabling material....you can read about the various types of coppers.....why some use upocc...some use HPOFC...

termination......well...yes and no.....let's talk about wall socket first....is there a difference between brand A....brand B and normal house hold???
Yes....in terms of the built quality, material and EMI rejection
If you have a EMI tester pen (you can get from Mr.DIY cheap cheap)....those are what electrician use to search for power cable...esp in-wall power cable

you can try it on different brand metal wall socket plate....be it Sine, Furutech and so on...so far Furutech is the only 1 I have tested with an EMI pen where the plate is able to remove the EMI...how did they do it?? I have not answer.....the closest possible answer I have is the grounding
why is this factor important?? I have tried over and over switching between brands... and material....the removal of this EMI at the socket creates a proper clean background and very low floor noise...

second factor is the internal connecters esp if you use US wall sockets.....the copper strips between the top and bottom plug have high impedance....again....Furutech and Wattgate have better quality parts

I have perhaps 4 types of wall socket in my audio room....do they sound different...they do...in an 'analog' system...in a digital system like AVR or for HT....the difference is there but not so apparent....
some even call me 'sinkalan'....you don't try...u won't know.....

termination heads....does it make a difference...well if you use basic household brands like MK or Schneider....dont invest in stuffs like Furutech or Wattgate or watever other brand...

interconnects....honestly...if your source is not any top notch or ain't analog.....again...don't waste your money
your sound is only as good as your source....dumping few K on cable hoping to hear magic??
but if you are running something like DCS....or Audio Research Reference....or something highend...yes....it will make a difference

again....the higher end the gear....the more quality and resolution it brings on the output...therefore every bottleneck needs to be checked....

but if you are talking about Oppo to a good projector like JVC....will a 20k HDMI make a difference???
nope.....digital signal is more of meeting the compliance spec....I rather spend on the screen and projector calibration

analog interconnects....for HT....does it make a difference....yes but not significant between say a Gotham vs a Transparent Ultra

so in short...my point here is that....cables should be your last of the worries for now
if you have some budget and thinking of getting your equipment sound even better.....focus on your incoming power

when I first did my audio room...the first thing i invested was a 3 phase power for my house..
with 1 phase dedicated for my audioroom....
second...i invested in good quality fuses like Hager....invested in installing a separate earthing rod
3rd....proper 4mm cabling for the room

the second is equipment and speaker placement.....more than often...unchecked resonance kills your sound...
we have alot 'in-house' experts who can tell you all about it

end of day.....this is a long journey.....happy playing and enjoy the movie or music...thats more important






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post Nov 27 2016, 11:51 PM

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Good post by bro hushymushy. thumbup.gif

In regards to proper cabling in the wall, the problem is that most people do not want to bother breaking up their wall just to re-do their cabling. It's tedious, expensive and most importantly if there's a wife; it spells absolute trouble.

So they'd rather spend thousands on cables, power conditioners, interconnects and whatever other voodoo nonsense in hopes that things can sound "better". Sometimes it's better to just understand and accept what you have is the best you can have in a certain situation.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 27 2016, 11:51 PM)
Good post by bro hushymushy. thumbup.gif

In regards to proper cabling in the wall, the problem is that most people do not want to bother breaking up their wall just to re-do their cabling. It's tedious, expensive and most importantly if there's a wife; it spells absolute trouble.

So they'd rather spend thousands on cables, power conditioners, interconnects and whatever other voodoo nonsense in hopes that things can sound "better". Sometimes it's better to just understand and accept what you have is the best you can have in a certain situation.
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well some people may not have the luxury to break walls and rebuilt....i only had the opportunity when I renovated my house

also bcoz some retailers do not share such information...not everyone is educated about E&E basics right....
plus ppl wanna sell stuffs...so its like that lor

in actual fact....hacking the wall and changing the fuse box and even equipping the sockets with Furutech wall socket is still cheaper than buying conditioners.....


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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Nov 28 2016, 12:12 AM)
well some people may not have the luxury to break walls and rebuilt....i only had the opportunity when I renovated my house

also bcoz some retailers do not share such information...not everyone is educated about E&E basics right....
plus ppl wanna sell stuffs...so its like that lor

in actual fact....hacking the wall and changing the fuse box and even equipping the sockets with Furutech wall socket is still cheaper than buying conditioners.....
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And... people who live in condos has absolutely no way of doing it. What they buy is what they get forever.

In some cases, hacking the wall and re-doing the cables can actually cost less than buying 1 meter unicorn-blood infused power cords. Go figure. whistling.gif

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power wise. live--neutral is not suppose to directional. still i find only 1 way is correct
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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Nov 27 2016, 11:32 PM)
there's a lot to just a cabling question....whether a branded will be better than an OEM.....short answer....not necessary

understanding basic fundamentals regarding cable cores, cable materials and some electrical and electronics will come in handy

some people believe cables won't make a difference....some believe it does....

it all starts with your very home power cabling....

from the fuse to the wall socket.....if you are running a single 2.5mm cable from ur fuse to your wall socket which shares among maybe 4 to 5 equipment...
if you think a Richard Gray or Quantum Resonant can help you fix your power issue......then the way off applying is wrong....

to begin with proper cabling...it would be advisable to multiple fuses and multiple power lines going from your fuse to your equipment....
esp the power amps and subwoofer should have its own dedicated powerlines.....
why??

bcoz generally in MY....when electrician lay consealed cables, they will use the normal Mega/Fajar/Jaya 7 strand copper cables....so unless you specify to use a 75strand or 105 strand copper.....

what's the difference? basically speed of electrons travelling over the surface of conductor....this is something perhaps read in E&E.....also....current flows to wherever that has a lower impedance....

in short.....if you are using a common wall socket that you are not sure connected so whatever other house hold items....a few hundred or few K power cord....will not do any good....bcoz the setup is not optimized nor able to show any benefits of the cable
cabling material....you can read about the various types of coppers.....why some use upocc...some use HPOFC...

termination......well...yes and no.....let's talk about wall socket first....is there a difference between brand A....brand B and normal house hold???
Yes....in terms of the built quality, material and EMI rejection
If you have a EMI tester pen (you can get from Mr.DIY cheap cheap)....those are what electrician use to search for power cable...esp in-wall power cable

you can try it on different brand metal wall socket plate....be it Sine, Furutech and so on...so far Furutech is the only 1 I have tested with an EMI pen where the plate is able to remove the EMI...how did they do it?? I have not answer.....the closest possible answer I have is the grounding
why is this factor important?? I have tried over and over switching between brands... and material....the removal of this EMI at the socket creates a proper clean background and very low floor noise...

second factor is the internal connecters esp if you use US wall sockets.....the copper strips between the top and bottom plug have high impedance....again....Furutech and Wattgate have better quality parts

I have perhaps 4 types of wall socket in my audio room....do they sound different...they do...in an 'analog' system...in a digital system like AVR or for HT....the difference is there but not so apparent....
some even call me 'sinkalan'....you don't try...u won't know.....

termination heads....does it make a difference...well if you use basic household brands like MK or Schneider....dont invest in stuffs like Furutech or Wattgate or watever other brand...

interconnects....honestly...if your source is not any top notch or ain't analog.....again...don't waste your money
your sound is only as good as your source....dumping few K on cable hoping to hear magic??
but if you are running something like DCS....or Audio Research Reference....or something highend...yes....it will make a difference

again....the higher end the gear....the more quality and resolution it brings on the output...therefore every bottleneck needs to be checked....

but if you are talking about Oppo to a good projector like JVC....will a 20k HDMI make a difference???
nope.....digital signal is more of meeting the compliance spec....I rather spend on the screen and projector calibration

analog interconnects....for HT....does it make a difference....yes but not significant between say a Gotham vs a Transparent Ultra

so in short...my point here is that....cables should be your last of the worries for now
if you have some budget and thinking of getting your equipment sound even better.....focus on your incoming power

when I first did my audio room...the first thing i invested was a 3 phase power for my house..
with 1 phase dedicated for my audioroom....
second...i invested in good quality fuses like Hager....invested in installing a separate earthing rod
3rd....proper 4mm cabling for the room

the second is equipment and speaker placement.....more than often...unchecked resonance kills your sound...
we have alot 'in-house' experts who can tell you all about it

end of day.....this is a long journey.....happy playing and enjoy the movie or music...thats more important
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We need to be getting TNB to plant a power pole in front of the house already tongue.gif
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Hi friends,

I recently read a blog about building a home theater using an old shipping container . Is it possible to transform shipping containers into a home theater at an affordable price? I’m planning to design a good home theater in a shipping container. I already have a home theater in my home and need to get a new experience with the container. I’m using Epson projector and Bose speakers for my current home theater system. Please advise me the best tips to make a good home theater.

Thanks in advance

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QUOTE(mindhacker @ Nov 30 2016, 01:38 PM)
Hi friends,

I recently read a blog about building a home theater using an old shipping container . Is it possible to transform shipping containers into a home theater at an affordable price? I’m planning to design a good home theater in a shipping container. I already have a home theater in my home and need to get a new experience with the container. I’m using Epson projector and Bose speakers for my current home theater system. Please advise me the best tips to make a good home theater.

Thanks in advance
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Haven't built one before in a container. But logic tells me that you will need a considerable amount of room treatment inside the entire container. Otherwise it'll just be an echo chamber.

While room treatment do not cost too much if you DIY, it will be a lot of work as are pretty much going to completely cover the entire container.
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Count down for Oppo UDP-203..
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Count down for Oppo UDP-203..
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 25 2016, 01:16 PM)
Read this: http://www.audioholics.com/audio-video-cables/power-cables
Keywords are: "well-made cables".

Most mid-range receivers, amps of any kind (intergrated, power amps, tubes, whatever) comes with a cable that is already CERTIFIED and TESTED to perform without any issues that would hamper the performance of the product it is being connected to.

However, because we are in Malaysia and our SIRIM certifications can all be songlap behind closed doors, then you may want to check what kind of who-knows-where made cables you are getting out of the box.

I personally just buy a reel of Gotham 85225 GPC for all my equipments. It's reasonably cheap (not some furutech voodoo bullshit) and is very well made.
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Where to buy Gotham 85225 GPC in malaysia?
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Nov 30 2016, 09:46 PM)
Where to buy Gotham 85225 GPC in malaysia?
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Bought a reel from him - http://www.hifi4sale.net/t56929-gotham-852...-5mm-power-cord

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