which proton current car can satisfy my wants?

thanks

anybody heard of this japanese car inspection service called goo kantei?

i have quite a long list of things for you to check in one of the neo threads some time back.... go look at that.... *each car is dif, get to know the model you want to view first*

frankly speakig... if the suprima is considered noisy, the inspira is pretty about the same or worse...
the engine is pretty noisy and road noise isnt the greatest..
if you are willing to spend a little on sound insulation, none of this will be much of an issue

i saw ur post about the proton haters bit, frankly speaking, i dont hate proton (heck, i dont care bout branding at all)

bump

I'm selling my 2012 fiesta 1.6 sport hatchback too.
Still got 1.5 years warranty.
Interested?


How about Elantra?
Safety good. Ada abs ebd esp vsm.
FC good. Estimate 550km per full tank.
Warranty 5 years.
Maintenance is easy and affordable. 3xx pretty normal service. Major service 8xx.
RV is getting better too.

I am currently driving a myvi and would want to upgrade to a c segment hatchback and these are my considerations

1. Brand : Ford Focus HB , Mazda 3 HB , might consider HRV or XV
2. Budget : Rm80 +-
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : Possible with price range
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI: ANY
7. Type : any
8. Remarks : Prefer Hatcback / SUV shape

Have been very interested with Ford Focus but very worried of the gearbox and such after many researchs , can get a year 2012 focus for abt 70k+ , how is the mazda 3 when compared to the focus in terms of reliability ? thnx

This post has been edited by snowdaniel01: May 29 2016, 11:23 AM

Personally would not touch the ford... Its just me though but from what I hear when the non-dry clutch models have their issues(hough some don't suffer them at all)

Don't know much about it.
Looks like not a new model.
Have you checked out the Sharan?

It seems you're looking for something fancy and powerful.
Firstly, the Fiesta/Preve are very good cars with up to date modern safety equipment. However, they suffer from not very cheap maintenance. Among the B-segment cars the Fiesta can be said to be on the high side due to the extra equipment and technology in the car. The gearbox oil for the DCT ain't going to be cheap either when you need to replace it. Preve would be on the high side for maintenance due to Proton controlling the part prices in the market plus maintaining a turbo is never cheap. A small hole or leak would depressurize the entire system and make it lose power, if the mechs aren't experience enough they'll just recommend you keep changing parts until it is solved

Kia is fine and C-segment also but if you compare against a car like Sentra then maintenance for the Sentra would seem dirt cheap. However, the Sentra is really old tech and although is a good car it lacks many of the safety equipment of today's cars.

2013 Proton Inspira 2.0 with paddle shift - i think this car would be the best choice for your budget and requirements, it is a C-segment so space isn't an issue. Please also note that older C-segment like the Nissan Sentra is quite cramped like a B-segment. I'd recommend you choose the 2000cc engine variant because it is the exact same engine as the Mitsubishi Lancer so you can parts swapping and sourcing from Lancer/Inspira -- more options means cheaper price. Also the 2000cc engine is more powerful and a more capable highway cruiser, the fuel savings between 2000cc and 1800cc isn't much so don't bother going for the lower spec as the interior also isn't as nice.

You should consider either Honda City or Mazda2.
Space wise the City would give you a little more extra due to it's longer body the rear seat passengers can enjoy more comfort and space even when the driver puts the chair all the way to the max.
Fuel economy the Mazda2 just slightly edges the City due to it's Skyactiv engine, however if you're looking for overall reliability you might wanna consider the Mazda2 because it uses a normal gearbox while the City uses a CVT, Mazda has however improved the standard gearbox in part due to the Skyactiv philosophy.

Either one should be fine although the City does have a slightly better resale value.
You can check but I remember Mazda providing 5 year warranty and 3 years free service for their cars.

Among the three you've listed the Mazda2 will be the one with the less headache.
The current Mazda2 is using skyactiv technology so it has a light but strong body, redesigned engine that gives fantastic fuel economy and it looks pretty smart too. Interior wise if you compare to it's japanese rivals like Almera, City and Vios it has the best among them.

208 and Fiesta are good cars but two things you need to bear in mind;
1. low resale value (high depreciation)
2. expensive maintenance

it was the Inspira until they stopped production.
i guess we have to see how the perdana-accord will do when it finally is released.

there are many used car dealers and there are many myvi's, these two are very common.
if you cannot trust the guy or have a bad feeling in your stomach then trust it.
go and find another dealer.

JPJ one is called kantoi

Actually the Focus is a well built car and reliability issues aren't an issue nowadays for NA cars from top brands, but if you're buying a Korean/Chinese/Malaysian you might still want to consider this an issue -- most European and Japanese makes don't have a reliability issue nowadays.

Focus though has two problems:
1. Low resale value (high depreciation)
2. Expensive maintenance (well not really crazy expensive but among it's peers like Civic/Altis/Sylphy the parts can be 10-30% more expensive)



2012 Suzuki Kizashi 2.4 Sport - if you're okay with low resale value and expensive maintenance let me recommend you this fantastic D-segment sports saloon. Although it is a D-segment it isn't a big boat like the Camry, more like a compact and fit highway cruiser like BMW 3-series. In terms of safety equipment level and spec it is way beyond most typical Japanese D-segment like Accord and Camry, you might be wondering why this car is a flop since it is so good, I dunno I guess people cannot take Suzuki seriously for such a car as they were minicar experts all this time. But if you decide to buy this car the only regret would be the two things above, everything else it is as good as top D-segments like Mark X, Mazda6, etc.

shouldn't be any problem.
usually cars spec for such markets especially high-end models like E-class have more stuff than the local spec.
only problem might be petrol as some countries where ron91 is standard so using our ron95 isn't an issue, some japan spec cars require ron97 minimum. so check this, open the fuel cap and see what the sticker says. all newer cars after year 2000 have a sticker there to state what minimum ron the engine needs.

This post has been edited by zenix: May 30 2016, 09:54 AM

1. Brand : Saga FLX SE 1.6, Myvi
2. Budget : Below RM30K OTR
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : MFg year must not less than 2010
5. Transmission : Any
6. NA or FI: ANY
7. Type : 4 door
8. Remarks : I want to buy car for doing Uber part time. Prefer Saga because sometime need to travel balik kampung to Kedah from KL. But myvi good in city and fc compare to Saga. What do you think ? any suggestion. Thanks

Currently looking for Used/new MPV below 60k

1. Brand: Any known brand
2. Budget : Rm60k +-
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used/New
4. Specs : Possible with price range
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI: ANY
7. Type : MPV
8. Remarks: Prefer a large car (actual 7 seaters)

there are many used car dealers and there are many myvi's, these two are very common.
if you cannot trust the guy or have a bad feeling in your stomach then trust it.
go and find another dealer.
JPJ one is called kantoi
Actually the Focus is a well built car and reliability issues aren't an issue nowadays for NA cars from top brands, but if you're buying a Korean/Chinese/Malaysian you might still want to consider this an issue -- most European and Japanese makes don't have a reliability issue nowadays.

Focus though has two problems:
1. Low resale value (high depreciation)
2. Expensive maintenance (well not really crazy expensive but among it's peers like Civic/Altis/Sylphy the parts can be 10-30% more expensive)

Thnx bro for d explanation, what do u think of d Mazda 3 HB (probably a year 2012 , the previous generation ) then, albeit more expensive than the Ford but considerably cheaper than other cars but still a Japanese car hence more reliable ?

This post has been edited by snowdaniel01: May 30 2016, 07:16 PM

Hi. looking to get a second hand car.

1. Brand : Not specific
2. Budget. 10 to 15k
3. Used
4. Specs. Nothing specific
5. Transmission. : automatic
6. NA or FI ? Nothing specific
7. Type. Hatchback or sedan
8. Remarks. Low maintenance cost, easy to get spare parts.

Basically I am a student who will use the car to commute daily from shah alam to Kuala Lumpur.

I have been pointed towards wira, iswara, or satria as parts are easy to get. But I personally don't like the iswara.

I hope to hear some feedback for all.

Thanks in advance

viva
+ cheap to run (fun fc in town)
+ relatively simple and easy to fix
+ no mechanical issues.
+ newer
- only issue would be its tiny/not so fun on long distance journeys
satria
+ parts are cheap
+ car looks pretty good
- old, many have been abused, run to the ground (not a problem if u know the car well)
- coupe, pro or con, you decide
- autos are kinda horrible (applies to all older gen potong autos)
saga(lmss/lmst)
+ cheap to run
+ cheap to repair (including body parts)
+ noone cares if its ugly cause its cheap
+ up to yr 2008 so not ancient
-milo kosong
-no auto
-simple
-many have been used as workhorses so, lots are run down
saga (blm)/gen2
+ relatively cheap to run/maintain
+ newer
*think it as a modernized saga, better in most ways, but more exp to maintain than the lmst
seg/sentra
+ old proven tech
+ larger car
- old old old car
-maintanance will be higher, and you will probably need to change some parts some time after getting it


all cheap to maintain and relatively cheap to run (assuming its not modified)

Under year 2010 and under RM30 there are a few more options than Saga/Myvi but it is undeniable that these two would be the cheapest to maintain and are very unfussy cars.

2011 Nissan Sentra 1.6 Manual with leather interior - I'm not really sure how uber works but i think if you have a better car like this you can charge more, right? Anyway, just for you to know although maintenance for this car is considered on the cheap side for a C-segment car (one segment above Saga/Myvi) it is going to be more expensive to maintain than either of those cars.

The same can be said if you decide to go for a Waja or Persona.

2010 Nissan Livina 1.8 - there might be younger and cheaper options for Livina but usually the 1800cc variant is more expensive because it has the bigger engine -- the 1600cc variant can be under powered even without full load. It is cheap to maintain. However when it comes to space it is lacking as the last row of seating is meant more for children or folded up to be used as luggage space. Although it gives you 7 seats and seatbelts it isn't a comfortable people mover if you're always on full load.

2010 Mazda 5 - although you might come into some problems getting cheap parts for it since it isn't a common car on the road maintenance and parts for it would still be far cheaper than alternatives like Ssangyong Stavic and Peugeot 5008 whom are also in your budget price range. It is a full sized MPV like Nissan Serena and Toyota Estima, there won't be any space issues.

If you're looking for a C-segment under 60k and younger than 2012 which is reliable and cheap to maintain you can opt for Nissan Latio / Nissan Sentra / Nissan Sylphy. I wouldn't really recommend the Nissan Sentra because it is based on older 90's design thus it isn't as spacious, fuel saving and safe as newer models. Nissan Sylphy is a good car but there is a question mark regarding it's gearbox overheating, this usually happens for people whom drive it spiritedly, so if you choose this one you're going to be driving like an uncle. Nissan Latio seems to be a better choice as it shares many components with the Nissan Livina, it doesn't have a very sleek design but such a design gives plenty of room inside the cabin, safety wise it is better than Sentra but not as good as the current crop of Japanese C-segments that provide stability control and traction control and more than 2 airbags. Nonetheless you can get a very new 2013 Nissan Latio 1.8 Sports Hatchback for your budget and even as cheap as 40k for a 2011 model. I'd recommend you take the 1800cc engine model as it gives you more power and better for travelling outstation. Also for around the same price you can also get the C-segment sized crossover the Nissan X-Gear which basically is a shorter version of the Nissan Grand Livina. Shares many similarities with the Latio,

Proton Wira SE and Proton Satria SE i think are the way to go.
They were the last batch before the models were discontinued and suffered little from the quality issues of batches before it, and are newer.

ARE EXORA CPS AND CFE, IRIZ MT AND SATRIA NEO CPS BAD CARS?

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jun 2 2016, 12:28 PM

bad in general? i dont know, it really depends on your demands.....

if you are a sucker for quality and power but ignore safety then they are horribly bad cars

if you are a sucker for bang for buck safety features and couldn't give a crap about the built quality, fc and stuff like that, perfect.

NO I NEVER IGNORE SAFETY SAFETY IS IMPORTANT WILL YOU READ MY PREVIOUS QUESTION PLEASE?i want new proton car not old proton cars because i am fed up with haters of proton but i want to know which proton current car is the best in terms of engine,reliability,handling,performance and power and safety and i want the engine to be the best engine in proton. can you please help me to find one which is suitable for me thanks.and also in terms of nvh,build quality and qc and torque and comfortable. Inspira is one of them but it is quite expensive.which proton current car can satisfy my wants and needs thanks? WHICH CARS SUITABLE FOR MY NEEDS AND WANTS THANKS? ARE EXORA CFE, PREVE CFE BETTER SUITABLE FOR MY NEEDS AND WANTS