not to say u can't
as long as u can find someone with great workmanship, sure can
but i just don't trust a majority of the installer's workmanship out there

of all my years experience of having tint... workmanship > all
i've seen way too many cases of tint having problems due to poor workmanship, some is partly because they just want it cheap
if i can't find great workmanship, i rather not reinstall

the tint will stay there in perfect condition but the heat rejection already degraded, so the tint will be there just for show.

Workmanship is for the asthetic not the heat rejection. heat rejection will degrade over time and at most 5 years

there is no such thing as cheap and quality
the 2 word do not appear together in the tint world

u want a at least "acceptable" tint, you have to start with a minimum budget of RM1k(this is for whole car, all 6 windows)
anything below is is not just bad in quality, it might not even work in UV filtration
what you're paying for isn't just a good tint film but also a good workmanship
and do not mistaken that dark = good UV filtration...it doesn't work that way and it's also illegal as well

yes, workmanship is just for asthetic but i do not want to go back every 2 week because got problems with it due to poor workmanship either
the 5-10 years warranty means nothing but wasting the customer's time, kept going back to claim something that should be problem-free

u wanna know how important is workmanship?
i stumbled upon a brand call nano tint recently
guess how did they install their tint?...as shown in their picture at their social media

Is that bad? I thought that's how they do it for the front windscreen, they need to mold the tint on the outside first before proceeding inside no?

even if it's mold...why is he spraying water?

that is not how tint is being installed..like at all

If you are the installer/technician you probably can comment on the technique.
We have seeing hundred of car being installed with a lot different way as there is no specific guide doing it.

I do agree the workmanship is equally important because in the eye of customer it is aesthetic.
But end of the day, it revert back to how much does the car is expose to the UV/Heat and the film quality.

If you have cheap quality but great workmanship the film will not last long.
Take a look at those OEM installation such as Proton or Perodua. It start to bubble up within 5 years
OEM installation always have great QC before they deliver the car, thus the workmanship is at the best

Oh there is no product in the world that could last as long as your car, if yes all the business will die

Im highlighting this too but he seems to be swearing on the workmanship rather than quality. At the end of the day for him, the tint is just to look nice without any heat rejection lol.

Anway, based on his track records, well, he is famous for being know-it-all but the info he is providing errr.....

some people might think it's just aesthetic in the eyes of the customer
but customer being customer...when the tint has problem, where will it end up again?
the seller isn't it?..it always goes back to the seller especially those that promise 5-10 years warranty
the seller has to dump more money on tint and more time reinstalling it

i've seen my fair share of picky customer nitpicking on the tint, they really got the time to go back to claim that warranty although not me

Yes you are absolutely right on the workmanship point but workmanship and quality of the film is 2 different issue
Just like your car tyre and engine

you're selling V-kool..you have both
but not those other midrange tint out there though sadly

i saw one here are even looking for sub RM1k tint which i'm pretty sure "quality of film" is no longer in the talk already
which is somewhat equivalent or worse than those OEM on proton and perodua already

even brands like Llumar have sub rm800 tint la. It is better than those funny brand ones. Usually establish brand have low-mid-high end range in their product line-up.

Man I still sell and still give product warranty 5 years

At my shop, normally warranty claim arise from 2 different perspective PRODUCT DEFECT or WORKMANSHIP

End of the day just don't make assumption workmanship = product quality

This post has been edited by I'm V-Kool: Nov 21 2020, 09:47 PM

It seems theres no sweet spot for tinted eh?

After reading few pages seems like some have done llumar and hamel here as heavily advertised in socmed. Or the go to person here is dog999

Buy those who can cover degradation warranty for at least 5 years.

Any shops that cover that in selangor?

I think asking around rarely do that

never made assumption about workmanship = product quality
just saying i prefer workmanship over all...that's all
less problem/hassle for me because i can choose product quality but i can't really choose workmanship...it's rare nowadays
and the fact that in many cases workmanship problem is blamed on product quality instead

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Nov 22 2020, 03:39 PM

Based on my last survey, only 2 brand, IrisPro and Totalgard. I choose totalgard cz of spec vs price.

Doesn't Hamel's warranty cover degradation as well?

This post has been edited by HalseyFrangipane: Nov 23 2020, 03:54 AM

Hi! I'm looking to replace my almost 8 years old car tint and scouting a good reliable brand vs cost available on the market currently. Currently I'm on Llumar Diamond 6 installed by SA in the showroom. My biggest worry is the electrical mist lines at the rear windscreen. Is there a guarantee on this i.e. the replacement won't destroy the lines? Appreciate your comments / experience sharing here. Thanks