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debbierowe
post Nov 20 2013, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 06:56 PM)
Hahaha, okay now I can confirm that you can't comprehend statistics. Go back to spm and resit your moral paper pls. I'm done talking with brainless people who can't even understand a simple f***ing table. Seriously?
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If not mistaken there several tables, do look at the title of the tables of what it means before the figure makes sense. And the last table title says what? And then u look at the percentage of moral, then scroll down look at islam

Done?

Damn no wonder ppl like u no tongkat I think died long time ago
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QUOTE(Kookie10 @ Nov 20 2013, 06:44 PM)
Its a joke that students are actually complaining that the change in format costed them their A+ instead of saying that there should be prior notice. There's even a comment on the section below stating

"but at least you have to tell us not to waste our precious time on memorize 36 nilai + definisi + kata kunci mah.. 36+36+36=108
you think memorize nilai as easy as ABC ah? you try lar!
I spent my whole night yesterday just to memorize all the nilai, yet only 1 definisi came out? you kidding me huh?"

Seriously if memorizing 108 things is so damn hard i dont think you deserve an A+ at all. I been thru SPM and i know what it is like. You don't see 2011 SPM students complaining that sejarah has Negaraku inside as well so stop whining about some basic shits. If you cant use your brain to think how to answer a question then seriously you fail as a SPM candidate.
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There will surely be an uproar when a change is made to the traditional education system.
It's not about the student being able to answer the question or not, it's just, people unable to adapt to the changes made. nod.gif
And in my opinion, more KBKK questions isn't really something that disadvantages the candidates, it might be easier to score if the marking scheme is lenient lol.
It's just the waste of effort that disappoints and saddens them i guess.
I'm one of the candidates and i think i can understand why the people are complaining tongue.gif


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post Nov 20 2013, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 06:57 PM)
If not mistaken there several tables, do look at the title of the tables of what it means before the figure makes sense. And the last table title says what? And then u look at the percentage of moral, then scroll down look at islam

Done?

Damn no wonder ppl like u no tongkat I think died long time ago
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HAHAHAHAA I knew it you're worth for nothing. Pendidikan Syariah Islamiah =/= Pendidikan Islam. Only minority of Malays take that subjects as it is more focused for people in arabic schools. I told you I win, but you insisted, now go and cover your face with a box pls.

Ignorance is a bliss eh? Bliss my ass la hahaha.
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:02 PM

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Pendidikan Islam, 96.20
Pendidikan Moral 82.30

Passing rate , national stats , table 4.3

Someone must have looked at Table 4.2 and 4.1 lol, those tables are for other thing , u didn't notice, Islam is not even listed at table 4.1?



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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 07:01 PM)
HAHAHAHAA I knew it you're worth for nothing. Pendidikan Syariah Islamiah =/= Pendidikan Islam. Only minority of Malays take that subjects as it is more focused for people in arabic schools. I told you I win, but you insisted, now go and cover your face with a box pls.

Ignorance is a bliss eh? Bliss my ass la hahaha.
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Then where is your stat saying the Real pendidikan Islam is easier than moral that shows u won? Why would such documents do not list stats for pendidikan Islam? laugh.gif icon_question.gif laugh.gif

U mean that doc purposely exclude Islam subject? Then u need that his more han me, the whole JPn, and moe covering the same box nod.gif

This post has been edited by debbierowe: Nov 20 2013, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 07:02 PM)
Pendidikan Islam, 96.20
Pendidikan Moral 82.30

Passing rate , national stats , table 4.3

Someone must have looked at Table 4.2 and 4.1 lol, those tables are for other thing , u didn't notice, Islam is not even listed at table 4.1?
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Its not pendidikan islam, go fix your specs. Its pendidikan syariah islamiah. its not pendidikan islam as i've stated above. and just to prove that you cant comprehend the statistics, you're actually looking that the wrong column.

The column that you should actually be looking at is Mengatasi (%).

While pendidikan syariah islamiah is only 0.20% above national average, moral is 5.60% above the national average.
The table is arranged according how high a particular subject is above the national average, just in case you don't know what you're reading lol.
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macamlah pendidikan islam tak perlu menghafal dry.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 07:05 PM)
Its not pendidikan islam, go fix your specs. Its pendidikan syariah islamiah. its not pendidikan islam as i've stated above. and just to prove that you cant comprehend the statistics, you're actually looking that the wrong column.

The column that you should actually be looking at is Mengatasi (%).

While pendidikan syariah islamiah is only 0.20% above national average, moral is 5.60% above the national average.
The table is arranged according how high a particular subject is above the national average, just in case you don't know what you're reading lol.
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Ppl talk bout pendidikan moral and pendidikan Islam then u post some PDF with no 2 to compare side to side and then say u won,ok la u won
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 20 2013, 06:55 PM)
change exam format. can understand that it is a problem

but change questions from last year. that is exam. not all spotted questions suppose to come out.

making it racial oso even dumber. the paper for Muslims is a hell lot tougher to score. they need to memerize the whole quran and hope the verse the know come out.
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duh if got pendidikan buddha we can also score easily la cause it is a basic knowledge and practicing we did everyday since very young
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 07:04 PM)
Then where is your stat saying the Real pendidikan Islam is easier than moral that shows u won? Why would such documents do not list stats for pendidikan Islam?  laugh.gif  icon_question.gif  laugh.gif

U mean that doc purposely exclude Islam subject? Then u need that his more han me, the whole JPn, and moe covering the same box  nod.gif
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Here is another proof that you cannot read a fking table, or is it that you do not understand Bahasa Malaysia? How the hell did you get A+ for it anyways?

The statistics show only the subjects that is above national average scores. Pendidikan Islam certainly is not in it, so is BM/English and a shitload of other subjects.

Enough of self-embarassment now? Or do you want to keep being embarassed by me? Is it addictive or something?
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 07:07 PM)
Ppl talk bout pendidikan moral and pendidikan Islam then u post some PDF with no 2 to compare side  to side and then say u won,ok la u won
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Please read my reply above where I have rebuted your false opinions and pwn you right on your right ass cheek.
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 07:07 PM)
Here is another proof that you cannot read a fking table, or is it that you do not understand Bahasa Malaysia? How the hell did you get A+ for it anyways?

The statistics show only the subjects that is above national average scores. Pendidikan Islam certainly is not in it, so is BM/English and a shitload of other subjects.

Enough of self-embarassment now? Or do you want to keep being embarassed by me? Is it addictive or something?
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Now u r saying, that table 4.3 that listed every subjects of SPM , only showing high national passing rate subjects

And really so many failed Islam that it can't even make to the list like physics, chemistry, ad math.

Wow. Really so many ppl failed Islam, then am sorry then , didn't know so many cold failed pendidikan islam notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 20 2013, 07:04 PM)
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(customer2 @ Nov 20 2013, 07:07 PM)
duh if got pendidikan buddha we can also score easily la cause it is a basic knowledge and practicing we did everyday since very young
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oh.. you are well versed in the Vinaya Pitaka and the first four Nikayas of the Sutta Pitaka?

cause Muslims need to be well versed in Quran.

both will be much more difficult than the easy A of moral!
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Nov 20 2013, 07:10 PM)
side-bet rm5k with u wan? which side you think will win?  thumbup.gif
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No need bet la it's my wrong, didn't know so many people failed pendidikan Islam one...
Moral papers students tak bersyukur
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QUOTE(customer2 @ Nov 20 2013, 07:07 PM)
duh if got pendidikan buddha we can also score easily la cause it is a basic knowledge and practicing we did everyday since very young
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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 20 2013, 07:11 PM)
oh.. you are well versed in the Vinaya Pitaka and the first four Nikayas of the Sutta Pitaka?

cause Muslims need to be well versed in Quran.

both will be much more difficult than the easy A of moral!
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 07:10 PM)
Now u r saying, that table 4.3 that listed every subjects of SPM , only showing high national passing rate subjects

And really so many failed Islam that it can't even make to the list like physics, chemistry, ad math.

Wow. Really so many ppl failed Islam, then am sorry then , didn't know so many cold failed pendidikan islam  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Yes, that may just prove that Pendidikan Islam is harder than Moral, but the main point is that the government(or the malays as you suggest) has no intention on decreasing the success rate of non-malays.

Since you have accredited that my points are indeed true, I shall end my transmission now by offering a truce, which you may or may not accept. icon_rolleyes.gif
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