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post Nov 20 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 20 2013, 07:11 PM)
oh.. you are well versed in the Vinaya Pitaka and the first four Nikayas of the Sutta Pitaka?

cause Muslims need to be well versed in Quran.

both will be much more difficult than the easy A of moral!
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if u think moral is that easy, why is it so many students got B3 for pendidikan moral and only a few to score A1 comparing to bahasa melayu?

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post Nov 20 2013, 07:17 PM

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Pendidikan Moral is a joke that changed format every 1-3years

during my form4 and 5 time the MOE changed Pendidikan Moral format and marking scheme 4-5 time in the span of 2 years.
they even changed the marking scheme 1month prior to SPM with cause a lot chaotic to students. ( which i dont even care since just need to get 5 credit as stepping stone to Private college)
from what i noticed from several school other than mine, is that those teachers which is malay, dont even teach the student properly. most of the malay teacher that teach P.Moral always give Self Study season and didnt bother go to classes which was told by other School student during Ceramah P.Moral hosted by my school teach.

One more joke that Moe make , is that they included sejarah subject and pendidikan moral into College/University level.
this wont even help the student and these 2 subject dont even needed

MOE been a joke for a long time now.

I personally dont even bother about secondary school subject, as i know that you just need 5 credit as stepping stone to Private College.
and the 5 credit depend on which course that you want to take.

I sleep thru most of the time during secondary school

This post has been edited by stupiak07: Nov 20 2013, 07:22 PM
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(customer2 @ Nov 20 2013, 07:16 PM)
if u think moral is that easy, why is it so many students got B3 for pendidikan moral and only a few to score A1 comparing to bahasa melayu?

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BM is damn easy wey.

even foreign workers can learn it being in malaysia couple of months. let alone ppl study it for 11 years

btw the table is total number of scorers. since every students take BM. shouldnt the number be higher than a subject that not eevryone take?

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post Nov 20 2013, 07:25 PM

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post Nov 20 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 07:14 PM)
Yes, that may just prove that Pendidikan Islam is harder than Moral, but the main point is that the government(or the malays as you suggest) has no intention on decreasing the success rate of non-malays.

Since you have accredited that my points are indeed true, I shall end my transmission now by offering a truce, which you may or may not accept.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Erm, I was just sacarsm since u so unaccepted of the "truce " u show means nothing at all to proof that

Your stats only kelantan and only show mengatasi peringkat nasional, increase of passing rate from year 2011-2012
So? Kelantan student did moral better more percentage than national level and precious year proof that moral is easier than Islam! In that case , u win

If u know what that means, it's doesnt show Islam harder to score than moral, or harder than moral, if Islam is done equally good all the while then it won't shows etc etc, endless possibility so no point for me to argue further

Also, moral subject dillemma, almost impossible to failed, but very possible can urine your straight As


Anyway u win la, it's lunch time here . Don't call me noob if u don't see reply laugh.gif

And as for the rest , here is the results stat for kelantan, compare to national , and also previous year 2011 etc, they did better in yr 2012 ! Congrats !
http://jpn.moe.gov.my/jpnkelantan/v2/image...apanspm2012.pdf
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(customer2 @ Nov 20 2013, 07:16 PM)
if u think moral is that easy, why is it so many students got B3 for pendidikan moral and only a few to score A1 comparing to bahasa melayu?

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Dont think he is saying that. Pendidikan Buddha isnt as easy as you would think if there is a subject.
Cos there is also Biblical Studies or something like that for Christians. Those who took it for SPM said so many things they didnt know before this - knowing the basics & learn in detail is different in terms of religion.


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post Nov 20 2013, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 07:28 PM)
Erm, I was just sacarsm since u so unaccepted of the "truce " u show means nothing at all to proof that

Your stats only kelantan and only show mengatasi peringkat nasional, increase of passing rate from year 2011-2012
So? Kelantan student did moral better more percentage than national level and precious year proof that moral is easier than Islam! In that case , u win

If u know what that means, it's doesnt show Islam harder to score than moral, or harder than moral, if Islam is done equally good all the while then it won't shows etc etc, endless possibility so no point for me to argue further

Also, moral subject dillemma, almost impossible to failed, but very possible can urine your straight As
Anyway u win la, it's lunch time here . Don't call me noob if u don't see reply  laugh.gif

And as for the rest , here is the results stat for kelantan, compare to national , and also previous year 2011 etc, they did better in yr 2012 ! Congrats !
http://jpn.moe.gov.my/jpnkelantan/v2/image...apanspm2012.pdf
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Lol, noob. Did you even take maths in high school? Statistic for a state is more than enough to prove my fact. (If you had ever learned maths you will know that this trend will follow and indeed be true for the whole country).
Gred Purata means they have summed up all including As, so logically the better the gp, the more people have scored A in moral.

And wtf you mean by:
"Erm, I was just sacarsm since u so unaccepted of the "truce " u show means nothing at all to proof that"

It does not even make a fking sense. Stop humiliating yourself ffs.

Anyways I'm stopping here lol, this is no more fun, you guys have no facts to go against me. Numbers speak louder than words.

Bye and sorry if I hurt any of your feelings here lul.

P.s: I know what you meant sarcastically, but pendidikan islam is still harder than moral.

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post Nov 20 2013, 07:41 PM

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I don't know who bait who.

If you expect every year same question, better don't take SPM bro.

And what's up with P. Islam have to do with vroom? Other race who is muslim can't take P.Islam?
And saying P.Islam easier than moral, oh wow.

WOW. blink.gif

also, we need to change the "hafal format/formula", that thing needs to go from the education system.
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 20 2013, 07:18 PM)
BM is damn easy wey.

even foreign workers can learn it being in malaysia couple of months. let alone ppl study it for 11 years

btw the table is total number of scorers. since every students take BM. shouldnt the number be higher than a subject that not eevryone take?
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pls see my previous point,i didnt say BM is hard, my point is bahasa cina and pendidikan moral is harder to get A and i dont understand what do you meant by number be higher than a subject that not eevryone take, there are 500 students and there a still a few grades left out from the picture and the 12 subject is the compulsory subjects taken by all students
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Nov 20 2013, 07:14 PM)
Better study philosophy, economics instead of moral
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Moral originally should be philosophy of moral/ ethics. Only our moral education is about memorization, not a mention of Kant, Aristotle, Plato.
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post Nov 20 2013, 08:02 PM


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QUOTE(henghuang @ Nov 20 2013, 07:57 PM)
Moral originally should be philosophy of moral/ ethics. Only our moral education is about memorization, not a mention of Kant, Aristotle, Plato.
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which defeats the purpose of studying moral
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post Nov 20 2013, 08:02 PM

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post Nov 20 2013, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Nov 20 2013, 08:02 PM)
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Cepat tutup, mcm tu blh study add.m wink.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 20 2013, 05:50 PM)
actually is teacher expect us (me personally) to score high grades...

haiz should've just pass with C for trial exam  laugh.gif
AHAHAHHA

KEAMMOSHAFAN LVL99.... rofl
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ya ma, this PS3 fanboy always talk w/o think the consequences
and thinks he like a papa-wisdom...

reflash bck that he says Sarawak no need highway and call people follow
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post Nov 20 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(customer2 @ Nov 20 2013, 07:53 PM)
pls see my previous point,i didnt say BM is hard, my point is bahasa cina and pendidikan moral is harder to get A and i dont understand what do you meant by number be higher than a subject that not eevryone take, there are 500 students and there a still a few grades left out from the picture and the 12 subject is the compulsory subjects taken by all students
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what I am saying is the reason why more ppl score in BM because BM is easier than Moral. I pointed out how foreigners could learn BM within couple of months to illustrate how accessible the language is

that doesn't make Moral a really hard subject at all tho. even in the article said Moral is an easy score

I meant that not all students take Moral (Muslims dont take) but everyone take BM. so if you take total score, then more ppl likely to score better in BM than Moral.

tho not sure what the sample group of the table you quoted -- are they all non Muslims? what school tehy goto.

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post Nov 20 2013, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Nov 20 2013, 07:33 PM)
Dont think he is saying that. Pendidikan Buddha isnt as easy as you would think if there is a subject.
Cos there is also Biblical Studies or something like that for Christians. Those who took it for SPM said so many things they didnt know before this - knowing the basics & learn in detail is different in terms of religion.
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yep. theology study is not easy
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post Nov 20 2013, 08:50 PM

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no A1 pendidikan moral?????

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post Nov 20 2013, 08:57 PM

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