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> Uproar over change in SPM Moral paper format, It baffles students and teachers

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:28 PM

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im at work now, all that I can say is that you 2 are completely brainless. go and read the pdf files. do I really need to teach you brainless faggits how to read? sikit2 blame government but ownself cannot use brain. this is a great example. stop being ignorant and accept the fact that you guys lost to me. trying to swindle the fact by utilizing stupid comments, ptuih, such cheap b4stards you are.

do me a favour and stop embarassing yourself.
p.s: if ur brain cannot process the statistics in the pdf just tell me,i can translate them into just a few words.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 20 2013, 06:21 PM)
careful...with the last statement...

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:30 PM

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As a '96 spm candidate myself, I think my batch mates are all too spoonfed. Wired by the school's system to have a stubborn and non-critical thinking. All die die follow the manual only. I personally have no problems sitting for this paper. I didn't know the change of format beforehand. I was shocked when I received my paper but critical times demand critical thinking. Think out of the box and create your own format = voila. They already said its a higher thinking order set, means think out of the box la. I think this is quite a good challenge for spm leavers to face the real world.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(klang.boy @ Nov 20 2013, 06:30 PM)
As a '96 spm candidate myself, I think my batch mates are all too spoonfed. Wired by the school's system to have a stubborn and non-critical thinking. All die die follow the manual only. I personally have no problems sitting for this paper. I didn't know the change of format beforehand. I was shocked when I received my paper but critical times demand critical thinking. Think out of the box and create your own format = voila. They already said its a higher thinking order set, means think out of the box la. I think this is quite a good challenge for spm leavers to face the real world.
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the real world for spm students is to memorize, that is the best strategy when you are under the stupid education system, just saying whistling.gif whistling.gif

no point giving creative answer when you break the format and get no marks whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(henghuang @ Nov 20 2013, 06:34 PM)
the real world for spm students is to memorize, that is the best strategy when you are under the stupid education system, just saying whistling.gif  whistling.gif

no point giving creative answer when you break the format and get no marks whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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So when you go out working your boss ask you settle a problem you die die follow what is taught to you, or read the manual and die die follow it? If this is an effort by ministry to create a batch of teenagers with critical thinking I think they're doing Malaysia something good now.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:40 PM

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Mohon an SPM candidate to post a sample of Moral trial question complete with answers and ask those trumpet blowers to do , then check against the answers , then see how they score .
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Nov 20 2013, 02:15 PM)
No offence, Moral has always been a really useless subject as you gain practically nothing from memorising 36 nilai.

It could be a useful subject like A-levels Thinking Skills which is designed to encourage student to think critically and outside of the box but moral is a shitty subject that if you think outside the box, your responds is usually wrong because your answer isnt on the marking scheme. Used the wrong nilai, zero regardless how you argue with it.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(klang.boy @ Nov 20 2013, 06:38 PM)
So when you go out working your boss ask you settle a problem you die die follow what is taught to you, or read the manual and die die follow it? If this is an effort by ministry to create a batch of teenagers with critical thinking I think they're doing Malaysia something good now.
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nono, I mean the best strategy as a SPM student is to memorize. Your goal is to score A.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:44 PM

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Its a joke that students are actually complaining that the change in format costed them their A+ instead of saying that there should be prior notice. There's even a comment on the section below stating

"but at least you have to tell us not to waste our precious time on memorize 36 nilai + definisi + kata kunci mah.. 36+36+36=108
you think memorize nilai as easy as ABC ah? you try lar!
I spent my whole night yesterday just to memorize all the nilai, yet only 1 definisi came out? you kidding me huh?"

Seriously if memorizing 108 things is so damn hard i dont think you deserve an A+ at all. I been thru SPM and i know what it is like. You don't see 2011 SPM students complaining that sejarah has Negaraku inside as well so stop whining about some basic shits. If you cant use your brain to think how to answer a question then seriously you fail as a SPM candidate.

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(leetan33 @ Nov 20 2013, 02:05 PM)
Moral studies is a required subject for non-Muslim students while Muslim students are required to take the Islamic studies. Moral appreciation aside, the subject is considered as an easy one to pass and also to score an extra A.
Sure or not? During my time, only very few get A for several years.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kookie10 @ Nov 20 2013, 06:44 PM)
Its a joke that students are actually complaining that the change in format costed them their A+ instead of saying that there should be prior notice. There's even a comment on the section below stating

"but at least you have to tell us not to waste our precious time on memorize 36 nilai + definisi + kata kunci mah.. 36+36+36=108
you think memorize nilai as easy as ABC ah? you try lar!
I spent my whole night yesterday just to memorize all the nilai, yet only 1 definisi came out? you kidding me huh?"

Seriously if memorizing 108 things is so damn hard i dont think you deserve an A+ at all. I been thru SPM and i know what it is like. You don't see 2011 SPM students complaining that sejarah has Negaraku inside as well so stop whining about some basic shits. If you cant use your brain to think how to answer a question then seriously you fail as a SPM candidate.
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You don't see doesn't mean they didn't complain , everyone was raging after that paper on FB .
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:51 PM

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question format change is one thing, but answer format got change oso?

last time during my time the subjective portion u can write a whole essay to explain ur point, but if u didn't write down those few special words.. straight 0...

will the teachers be given leeway to give marks according to their own discretion? or there is only ONE correct answer, even in the subjective portion..

those really intelligent ones who have critical thinking sure can still score... only if the marking is not too rigid...

pity those who only do rote learning la.. GG la..
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 06:06 PM)
Hahhaha hahhaha post a tl;dr PDF file and think woohoo I win, didnt read carefully himself, give him some time la, he is reading now
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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 06:08 PM)
Aiya, you know I know, them cybertroopers just don't have the abilities to think, and when they are caught lying, they don't have the guts to admit that they have lied.

In other words, they are brainless pondans.
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 06:28 PM)
im at work now, all that I can say is that you 2 are completely brainless. go and read the pdf files. do I really need to teach you brainless faggits how to read? sikit2 blame government but ownself cannot use brain. this is a great example. stop being ignorant and accept the fact that you guys lost to me. trying to swindle the fact by utilizing stupid comments, ptuih, such cheap b4stards you are.

do me a favour and stop embarassing yourself.
p.s: if ur brain cannot process the statistics in the pdf just tell me,i can translate them into just a few words.
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haha speechless now? noobs.

and btw Forgot Liao don't make up that pendidikan islam does not need exact terms. stop lying. its cheap you know.

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(NXJ @ Nov 20 2013, 02:08 PM)
This incident highlighted the main issue of Malaysia education

Memorize format to pass exam only

Change format = all die
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 05:54 PM)
Well, at least his SPM cert really showed failed, I've seen straight As begging every corner for scholarship, didn't get, then got into local uni, given offer on course which not in his choice list - forestry, appeal change course , said must at least enrol first then only consider his appeal
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SPM wont show at all if fail. the subject wont be there at all.

anyway, forestry good la. i should have taken it. now regret. can be close to forest and orang asli awek can bonk one and marry.
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 06:51 PM)
haha speechless now? noobs.
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Lol, u got life other ppl don't, same thing go read carefully before post, don't simply plug figure lol... Man u can't look at percentage and figures? Omg


If not mistaken there several tables, do look at the title of the tables of what it means before the figure makes sense. And the last table title says what? And then u look at the percentage of moral, then scroll down look at islam

Done?

Damn no wonder ppl like u no tongkat I think died long time ago

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:55 PM

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change exam format. can understand that it is a problem

but change questions from last year. that is exam. not all spotted questions suppose to come out.

making it racial oso even dumber. the paper for Muslims is a hell lot tougher to score. they need to memerize the whole quran and hope the verse the know come out.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 06:54 PM)
Lol, u got life other ppl don't, same thing go read carefully before post, don't simply plug figure lol... Man u can't look at percentage and figures? Omg
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Hahaha, okay now I can confirm that you can't comprehend statistics. Go back to spm and resit your moral paper pls. I'm done talking with brainless people who can't even understand a simple f***ing table. Seriously?
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Fuuuhhh......this tered full of rage and feeding trolls.

As an SPM student myself,I can see what the Kementerian Pendidikan is aiming for,but they are seriously doing it the wrong way.And for those who say to stop b****ing about Pendidikan Moral,I can only say you are one thick skinned and arrogant person.
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