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post Nov 20 2013, 05:44 PM

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Plus you enter college / uni / job, pendidikan moral is a foot note.
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
Here you go:
I'm pretty sure "they" here is in the context of Malays.

Now, I didnt know that SPM candidates are so gullible and have such a fragile butt. Please go apply some vaselin to your butt now. Oh and by the way, mods here do not ban people for kiddie reasons.

Edit: I replied to this late because I had a life, which you clearly are in need of some.
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Hahhaha... Yea they r so gullible ... If it happens with all subject then kecoh la, only moral. Means is small mistake only, suck it up and do your paper, who tell u no study pendidikan Islam, highest As scoring subject
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QUOTE(leetan33 @ Nov 20 2013, 02:05 PM)
Source: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...l-paper-format/

PETALING JAYA: SPM students, teachers and parents were in for a shock when the moral studies format was changed at the last-minute and without prior notice.

Many who sat for the paper this morning took to social networking site Facebook to express their unhappiness.

One male student said that the format was changed at the last minute because “the candidates are non-Malays”.

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why bother about moral? out politic/economic practices also no moral.. what the point? all corrupt like shit


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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
This is where you are overeating. The SPM grades mean jack shit in real life. I know plenty with average grades do better in real life.
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I am NOT over-reacting.

There was a classmate of mine. His grades were much better than mine.

Today he works as a mechanic.

Why ?

Simply because the marker failed his BM paper (his BM is SUPERB, no way he could have failed that paper, but it's a long story ...) and because of that he LOST ALL CHANCE OF GETTING ANY HIGHER EDUCATION.

He was from a very poor family. Family simply couldn't support him to study abroad (without BM paper you can't enroll in _any_ of the local U) so he ended up working as a mechanic.

I am not implying that working as a mechanic is a "cheap job" or what, I am saying that, that classmate of mine WAS A MATERIAL FOR GREAT HEIGHT, based on his grades.

He could be a damn good lawyer or damn good engineer or doctor or whatever, but now, he's a mechanic.

Why? Because some farker who marked his BM paper failed had cut off all the blood supply he needs to further his education.

And btw, at that time there was NO way to petition for a "remarking" of your paper. Once the MOE says that you failed, you failed, end of story.
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
This is where you are overeating. The SPM grades mean jack shit in real life. I know plenty with average grades do better in real life.
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SPM is the exam crucial for overseas studies - gov and major GLCs scholarships, if u missed that, most probably do not have to dream it again

Hence it's very very important for poor students to stand a chance to the study-oversea-dream
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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 05:48 PM)
I am NOT over-reacting.

There was a classmate of mine. His grades were much better than mine.

Today he works as a mechanic.

Why ?

Simply because the marker failed his BM paper (his BM is SUPERB, no way he could have failed that paper, but it's a long story ...) and because of that he LOST ALL CHANCE OF GETTING ANY HIGHER EDUCATION.

He was from a very poor family. Family simply couldn't support him to study abroad (without BM paper you can't enroll in _any_ of the local U) so he ended up working as a mechanic.

I am not implying that working as a mechanic is a "cheap job" or what, I am saying that, that classmate of mine WAS A MATERIAL FOR GREAT HEIGHT, based on his grades.

He could be a damn good lawyer or damn good engineer or doctor or whatever, but now, he's a mechanic.

Why? Because some farker who marked his BM paper failed had cut off all the blood supply he needs to further his education.

And btw, at that time there was NO way to petition for a "remarking" of your paper. Once the MOE says that you failed, you failed, end of story.
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The systematic genocide of non bumis.
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QUOTE(PaulReedSmooth @ Nov 20 2013, 05:09 PM)
I paling kesian if anyone suicide because of bad grades.

No shit I rmb got upsr student suicided due to bad results.

I bet those sitting for moral went into exam hall with high hopes of scoring well.
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actually is teacher expect us (me personally) to score high grades...

haiz should've just pass with C for trial exam laugh.gif

QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Nov 20 2013, 05:26 PM)
ignore tu troll la ...
marah kat dia buat pe, dia mmg dah bodoh MAXIMA DGN KEAMMOSHAFAN LEVEL:99
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AHAHAHHA

KEAMMOSHAFAN LVL99.... rofl

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 05:44 PM)
Hahhaha... Yea they r so gullible ... If it happens with all subject then kecoh la, only moral. Means is small mistake only, suck it up and do your paper, who tell u no study pendidikan Islam, highest As scoring subject
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Pendidikan Islam, they have 96 chapters to be studied in 2 years and yet Moral students are crying about 36 nilais. Heh. And no, it is harder to score A in Pendidikan Islam than Moral.

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Ahhh. Reminds me of my SPM days. I understand that it's frustrating pertaining to this matter, but look at the bright side, normal minimum requirements to enter alpha level in Uni requires only 5Cs. After getting your offer letter, use your spm result slip as an extra toilet paper in your house.

In this extremely cruel world, please understand that only money do the talking. I hate to believe it but that's the fact. And it's just SPM.
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 20 2013, 06:39 PM)
This is where you are overeating. The SPM grades mean jack shit in real life. I know plenty with average grades do better in real life.
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but this is where you dont understand. yeah, maybe for you SPM mean jack shit, but some less fortunate students SPM is their gateway out of their current shitty life. is it really overreacting if for some not getting another A might even affect their chance for a scholarship?



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QUOTE(Johannlo @ Nov 20 2013, 05:52 PM)
Ahhh. Reminds me of my SPM days. I understand that it's frustrating pertaining to this matter, but look at the bright side, normal minimum requirements to enter alpha level in Uni requires only 5Cs. After getting your offer letter, use your spm result slip as an extra toilet paper in your house.

In this extremely cruel world, please understand that only money do the talking. I hate to believe it but that's the fact. And it's just SPM.
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Ya. SPM won't be stumbling block for future success.
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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 05:48 PM)
I am NOT over-reacting.

There was a classmate of mine. His grades were much better than mine.

Today he works as a mechanic.

Why ?

Simply because the marker failed his BM paper (his BM is SUPERB, no way he could have failed that paper, but it's a long story ...) and because of that he LOST ALL CHANCE OF GETTING ANY HIGHER EDUCATION.

He was from a very poor family. Family simply couldn't support him to study abroad (without BM paper you can't enroll in _any_ of the local U) so he ended up working as a mechanic.

I am not implying that working as a mechanic is a "cheap job" or what, I am saying that, that classmate of mine WAS A MATERIAL FOR GREAT HEIGHT, based on his grades.

He could be a damn good lawyer or damn good engineer or doctor or whatever, but now, he's a mechanic.

Why? Because some farker who marked his BM paper failed had cut off all the blood supply he needs to further his education.

And btw, at that time there was NO way to petition for a "remarking" of your paper. Once the MOE says that you failed, you failed, end of story.
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Well, at least his SPM cert really showed failed, I've seen straight As begging every corner for scholarship, didn't get, then got into local uni, given offer on course which not in his choice list - forestry, appeal change course , said must at least enrol first then only consider his appeal
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 05:39 PM)
Here you go:
I'm pretty sure "they" here is in the context of Malays.
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Hello, pondan, you dah balik ?

Good !

Now, take a good look at what you claim what I have said ...

QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 04:18 PM)
According to Forgot Liao all meleis are racist, now tell me who's the real racist here
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Where is that "ALL MELEIS ARE RACIST" thing, pondan ?

Where ?

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tukar sikit kecut telo.. hahha
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 05:51 PM)
Pendidikan Islam, they have 96 chapters to be studied in 2 years and yet Moral students are crying about 36 nilais. Heh. And no, it is harder to score A in Pendidikan Islam than Moral.
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So base on the statistic of As in Isla, vs Moral
Indeed it is those taking moral studies really stupid cause even the subject so much easier than Isla, they still get such bad grades. I see...
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post Nov 20 2013, 05:56 PM

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Just look at the statistics of spm result of 500 students only 18 of them can get A1 then you will understand why chinese are frustrated

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 05:55 PM)
So base on the statistic of As in Isla, vs Moral
Indeed it is those taking moral studies really stupid cause even the subject so much easier than Isla, they still get such bad grades. I see...
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http://jpn.moe.gov.my/jpnkelantan/v2/image...apanspm2012.pdf

Nah I win.
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QUOTE(Johannlo @ Nov 20 2013, 05:52 PM)
Ahhh. Reminds me of my SPM days. I understand that it's frustrating pertaining to this matter, but look at the bright side, normal minimum requirements to enter alpha level in Uni requires only 5Cs. After getting your offer letter, use your spm result slip as an extra toilet paper in your house.

In this extremely cruel world, please understand that only money do the talking. I hate to believe it but that's the fact. And it's just SPM.
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If only aim that means kiss goodbye to scholarship

What bout ppl who aim for scholarship, excellent co-co built all years, Certa, AJK, pengerusi etc, and straight As then moral B3, ----> 14th floor
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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 05:54 PM)
Hello, pondan, you dah balik ?

Good !

Now, take a good look at what you claim what I have said ...

Where is that "ALL MELEIS ARE RACIST" thing, pondan ?

Where ?
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haha still butthurt I see.

I've already shown you my proof, you can turn it around which way you want, I still win. Its clear. If you ask a 2 year old they can still interpret your message that all meleis are racist. Nuff said.

Oh and btw thanks for the thread you made, it was kind of you. I hope I'm not distracting you from your spm studies. Lul. blush.gif

Its your choice to be an oblivious *******.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 05:55 PM)
So base on the statistic of As in Isla, vs Moral
Indeed it is those taking moral studies really stupid cause even the subject so much easier than Isla, they still get such bad grades. I see...
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They may have to study 96 subjects, but they do not NEED to put in the answer IN THE EXACT WAY AS SPECIFIED BY THE MOE.

They can put down their answer ANYWAY THEY WANT, as long as it is remotely related to the question, they GOT THE MARK.

On the other hand, for non-Muslims, if you got ONE WORD WRONG, you got goose egg.

That's the difference.

And btw, that person you reply to never care what the non-Muslims have to go through, plus, he has been proven a damn liar.

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