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post Jul 6 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Jul 6 2014, 04:16 PM)
salary before u jumped to the current company?
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It was RM 3800
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post Jul 6 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Jul 6 2014, 01:34 PM)
You are listening to him?? doh.gif  doh.gif

He is pure bull..Trolling here is his specialty.
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:02 AM

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Years spent in company : 5 years
Company : Audit firm big 4
Industry : Consultancy
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
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salary : RM6550

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post Jul 7 2014, 09:27 AM

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Would like to ask for some opinion, like in a situation if someone with about 2-3 years of work experience with 3.4k of total salary (basic 2k + 1.4k allowance), when want to change job, which amount will the new company mostly refer to give the new salary, the total salary or the basic? The job title can considered as electronic/lab engineer...
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post Jul 7 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Jul 7 2014, 10:27 AM)
Would like to ask for some opinion, like in a situation if someone with about 2-3 years of work experience with 3.4k of total salary (basic 2k + 1.4k allowance), when want to change job, which amount will the new company mostly refer to give the new salary, the total salary or the basic? The job title can considered as electronic/lab engineer...
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IMHO, total 20% increment seems reasonable smile.gif
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post Jul 7 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jul 7 2014, 10:28 AM)
IMHO, total 20% increment seems reasonable smile.gif
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Thanks for the opinion, the only concern is that instead of the total, they might refer to the basic salary as standard which will end up as decrement instead of increment... doh.gif
If Total = 3.7k * 1.2 = 4.4k
but Basic = 2k * 1.2 = 2.4k
As i heard that allowance is company dependent and hence it's not included into the calculation of increment when you're switching job... hmm.gif
Might need some opinion from hiring manager/finance manager which have the final call on this... cry.gif
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QUOTE(misskucen @ Jul 7 2014, 02:02 AM)
Job Title : Asst. Manager
Job Desciption : Audit and assurance
Years spent in company : 5 years
Company : Audit firm big 4
Industry : Consultancy
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining :  Fresh grad
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
salary : RM6550

Wanted to jump to internal audit at PLC / MNC. Still no luck yet sad.gif
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have u got any prof like ACCA?
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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Jul 7 2014, 11:03 AM)
Thanks for the opinion, the only concern is that instead of the total, they might refer to the basic salary as standard which will end up as decrement instead of increment... doh.gif
If Total = 3.7k * 1.2 = 4.4k
but Basic = 2k * 1.2 = 2.4k
As i heard that allowance is company dependent and hence it's not included into the calculation of increment when you're switching job...  hmm.gif
Might need some opinion from hiring manager/finance manager which have the final call on this... cry.gif
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Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi"
1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700
1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400
Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866.

So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640.
Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit.

Real example from me.
Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request.
(RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112
Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump)
What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact.

I put reason A company give 1 month bonus.
((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month.
Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company)

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post Jul 7 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 01:53 PM)
Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi"
1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700
1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400
Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866.

So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640.
Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit.

Real example from me.
Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request.
(RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112
Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump)
What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact.

I put reason A company give 1 month bonus.
((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month.
Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company)
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Nice... rclxms.gif
Left is to find a company that's willing to adopt me... tongue.gif
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 01:53 PM)
Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi"
1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700
1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400
Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866.

So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640.
Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit.

Real example from me.
Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request.
(RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112
Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump)
What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact.

I put reason A company give 1 month bonus.
((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month.
Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company)
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Nice info to sharing as for my future reference... thanks thumbup.gif rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Jul 7 2014, 02:00 PM)
Nice...  rclxms.gif
Left is to find a company that's willing to adopt me...  tongue.gif
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Sure got..if they call you, mean they need you..hehe
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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Jul 7 2014, 02:42 PM)
Nice info to sharing as for my future reference... thanks  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
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Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehe
already know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification..
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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 04:52 PM)
Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehe
already know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification..
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Share share some tips on interview skills rclxms.gif
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post Jul 7 2014, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 04:52 PM)
Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehe
already know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification..
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QUOTE(Sleepfoomuch @ Jul 7 2014, 08:20 PM)
Share share some tips on interview skills  rclxms.gif
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ya, can share some tip how to answer during interview... haha

But, this is the question I'm more interested, they probably will ask: reason why you leave your current company??

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post Jul 8 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 01:53 PM)
Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi"
1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700
1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400
Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866.

So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640.
Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit.

Real example from me.
Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request.
(RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112
Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump)
What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact.

I put reason A company give 1 month bonus.
((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month.
Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company)
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i might afraid not all employers will buy that.... but if you can convince them on your total annual package. then that's a good deal... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Jul 7 2014, 08:45 PM)
ya, can share some tip how to answer during interview... haha

But, this is the question I'm more interested, they probably will ask: reason why you leave your current company??
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mind sharing whats your normal answer or key point for this question? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 8 2014, 01:39 PM

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I just check out this lowyat site...there are many people who are willing to share their knowledge and experience. WOW! If I were a bit experienced, I also want to contribute something biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Please excuse me for my grammatical errors tongue.gif
I'm not a bright person, but I'm a diploma holder in Chemica Eng(Process) with 2.98 CGPA and currently persue my Chemal Eng degree(part time)
at UTM Space. I would like to work in oil and gas field if I've given the chance.

I want to ask,
1)if I choose QC/QI tech in detergent/chemical field...can I work in QC at semiconductor company also or is it require mechanical/mechatronic background?

2)if I persue in QC field, can I have a chance to work in oil and gas industries?
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 19 2013, 05:46 PM)
Previous version:
Let's talk salary v5

The previous version was closed and unpinned, let's continue the discussion here.

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Hi there smile.gif
I just check out this lowyat site...there are many people who are willing to share their knowledge and experience. WOW! If I were a bit experienced, I also want to contribute something biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Please excuse me for my grammatical errors tongue.gif
I'm not a bright person, but I'm a diploma holder in Chemica Eng(Process) with 2.98 CGPA and currently persue my Chemal Eng degree(part time)
at UTM Space. I would like to work in oil and gas field if I've given the chance.

I want to ask,
1)if I choose QC/QI tech in detergent/chemical field...can I work in QC at semiconductor company also or is it require mechanical/mechatronic background?

2)if I persue in QC field, can I have a chance to work in oil and gas industries?


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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Jul 7 2014, 08:45 PM)
Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehe
already know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification

ya, can share some tip how to answer during interview... haha

But, this is the question I'm more interested, they probably will ask: reason why you leave your current company??
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Haha..tips? Sure all interview ask this question "why you leave your current company?"
Tips like this :
1- Dont talk bad about your previous company even your company really bad notworthy.gif

2- Dont say that you jump for money $$, or low increment, low benefit or any negative item. whistling.gif

3- Safe answer for you want jump company are for future career. Give example to "Moving Foward". Give reason that positive.

4- another good answer- to upgrade skill/multi skill (if you do same job every day), upgrade knowledge, future career, learn new technology (if your current company is old thinking), want to move to management level (if already in technical for long time).

5-Not so safe if you answer about office location, about your team mate problem, transport issue, family. Interviewer will think twice about your answer.they will tembak you kaw-kaw..haha

6-if your company already good, Salary already OK, increment OK, bonus 4 month and so on, and interviewer say "kesian sama you punya company ks you macam-macam tapi you mau cabut" you can give your answer like this. " i give the best for company, company give the best for me. Then its win-win situation. He got what they want, i got what i want. So any problem?" .

7- If they psycho you, you psycho them back but in positive way.

P/s : Total interview i already go is 9,7 pass and 2 fail. 2 failed because that time i fresh grad - answer like budak2 that time..no knowledge..hehe

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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 8 2014, 01:47 PM)
Haha..tips? Sure all interview ask this question "why you leave your current company?"
Tips like this :
1- Dont talk bad about your previous company even your company really bad  notworthy.gif

2- Dont say that you jump for money $$, or low increment, low benefit or any negative item.  whistling.gif

3- Safe answer for you want jump company are for future career. Give example to "Moving Foward". Give reason that positive.

4- another good answer- to upgrade skill/multi skill (if you do same job every day), upgrade knowledge, future career, learn new technology (if your current company is old thinking), want to move to management level (if already in technical for long time).

5-Not so safe if you answer about office location, about your team mate problem, transport issue, family. Interviewer will think twice about your answer.they will tembak you kaw-kaw..haha

6-if your company already good, Salary already OK, increment OK, bonus 4 month and so on, and interviewer say "kesian sama you punya company ks you macam-macam tapi you mau cabut" you can give your answer like this. " i give the best for company, company give the best for me. Then its win-win situation. He got what they want, i got what i want. So any problem?" .

7- If they psycho you, you psycho them back but in positive way.

P/s : Total interview i already go is 9,7 pass and 2 fail. 2 failed because that time i fresh grad - answer like budak2 that time..no knowledge..hehe

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whoa, very good advice.... gonna save it for future use thumbup.gif

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