QUOTE(PrincZe @ Jul 6 2014, 04:16 PM)
It was RM 3800Lets talk salary v6
Lets talk salary v6
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Jul 6 2014, 04:27 PM
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Job Title : Asst. Manager
Job Desciption : Audit and assurance Years spent in company : 5 years Company : Audit firm big 4 Industry : Consultancy Employment Level : Management Experience before joining : Fresh grad Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree salary : RM6550 Wanted to jump to internal audit at PLC / MNC. Still no luck yet |
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Jul 7 2014, 09:27 AM
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Would like to ask for some opinion, like in a situation if someone with about 2-3 years of work experience with 3.4k of total salary (basic 2k + 1.4k allowance), when want to change job, which amount will the new company mostly refer to give the new salary, the total salary or the basic? The job title can considered as electronic/lab engineer...
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Jul 7 2014, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Jul 7 2014, 10:27 AM) Would like to ask for some opinion, like in a situation if someone with about 2-3 years of work experience with 3.4k of total salary (basic 2k + 1.4k allowance), when want to change job, which amount will the new company mostly refer to give the new salary, the total salary or the basic? The job title can considered as electronic/lab engineer... IMHO, total 20% increment seems reasonable |
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Jul 7 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Jul 7 2014, 10:28 AM) Thanks for the opinion, the only concern is that instead of the total, they might refer to the basic salary as standard which will end up as decrement instead of increment... If Total = 3.7k * 1.2 = 4.4k but Basic = 2k * 1.2 = 2.4k As i heard that allowance is company dependent and hence it's not included into the calculation of increment when you're switching job... Might need some opinion from hiring manager/finance manager which have the final call on this... |
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Jul 7 2014, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(misskucen @ Jul 7 2014, 02:02 AM) Job Title : Asst. Manager have u got any prof like ACCA?Job Desciption : Audit and assurance Years spent in company : 5 years Company : Audit firm big 4 Industry : Consultancy Employment Level : Management Experience before joining : Fresh grad Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree salary : RM6550 Wanted to jump to internal audit at PLC / MNC. Still no luck yet |
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Jul 7 2014, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Jul 7 2014, 11:03 AM) Thanks for the opinion, the only concern is that instead of the total, they might refer to the basic salary as standard which will end up as decrement instead of increment... Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi"If Total = 3.7k * 1.2 = 4.4k but Basic = 2k * 1.2 = 2.4k As i heard that allowance is company dependent and hence it's not included into the calculation of increment when you're switching job... Might need some opinion from hiring manager/finance manager which have the final call on this... 1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700 1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400 Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866. So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640. Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit. Real example from me. Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request. (RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112 Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump) What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact. I put reason A company give 1 month bonus. ((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month. Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company) |
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Jul 7 2014, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 01:53 PM) Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi" Nice... 1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700 1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400 Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866. So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640. Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit. Real example from me. Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request. (RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112 Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump) What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact. I put reason A company give 1 month bonus. ((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month. Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company) Left is to find a company that's willing to adopt me... |
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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 01:53 PM) Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi" Nice info to sharing as for my future reference... thanks 1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700 1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400 Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866. So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640. Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit. Real example from me. Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request. (RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112 Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump) What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact. I put reason A company give 1 month bonus. ((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month. Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company) |
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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Jul 7 2014, 02:42 PM) Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehealready know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification.. |
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Jul 7 2014, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 04:52 PM) Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehe Share share some tips on interview skills already know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification.. |
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Jul 7 2014, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 04:52 PM) Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehe already know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification.. QUOTE(Sleepfoomuch @ Jul 7 2014, 08:20 PM) ya, can share some tip how to answer during interview... hahaBut, this is the question I'm more interested, they probably will ask: reason why you leave your current company?? |
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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 7 2014, 01:53 PM) Regarding your problem, you need to calculate like this. Else you consider "Rugi" i might afraid not all employers will buy that.... but if you can convince them on your total annual package. then that's a good deal... 1 month = RM2000+RM1700 = RM3700 1 year = (RM3700 x 12) + bonus if got.(example RM2000) = RM46400 Average 1 month salary you got is RM46400/12 = RM3866. So to jump, you can demand 20% that is RM3866x1.2 = RM4640. Reason is : We calcute income base on TOTAL INCOME PER YEAR, not per month.. No meaning if basic you got is hight, but total income per year sikit. Real example from me. Basic RM3632. No allowance. But BONUS 4 month average. when i jump here is what i request. (RM3632 x12)+Bonus (RM3632x4) = RM58112 Average per month = RM4842. (so if i jump, my next salary must be more RM4842. elso no need to jump) What i get was RM4900 + 200 allowance..(jump to A company March 2014, Jun 2014 i jump to B company with basic RM6000). Same formula i use event just move to new company for 2 month, and they willing to pay RM6k base on fact. I put reason A company give 1 month bonus. ((RM4900+200)x13)/12 = RM5633 average per month. Jump RM5633x1.2=RM6760 (but B company give 6k since i just 2 month jump from A company) |
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I just check out this lowyat site...there are many people who are willing to share their knowledge and experience. WOW! If I were a bit experienced, I also want to contribute something
Please excuse me for my grammatical errors I'm not a bright person, but I'm a diploma holder in Chemica Eng(Process) with 2.98 CGPA and currently persue my Chemal Eng degree(part time) at UTM Space. I would like to work in oil and gas field if I've given the chance. I want to ask, 1)if I choose QC/QI tech in detergent/chemical field...can I work in QC at semiconductor company also or is it require mechanical/mechatronic background? 2)if I persue in QC field, can I have a chance to work in oil and gas industries? |
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 19 2013, 05:46 PM) Previous version: Hi there Let's talk salary v5 The previous version was closed and unpinned, let's continue the discussion here. Post format: Job Title : Job Desciption : Years spent in company : Company : Industry : Tenure : Employment Level : Experience before joining : Highest paper qualification/ education background : salary : RM I just check out this lowyat site...there are many people who are willing to share their knowledge and experience. WOW! If I were a bit experienced, I also want to contribute something Please excuse me for my grammatical errors I'm not a bright person, but I'm a diploma holder in Chemica Eng(Process) with 2.98 CGPA and currently persue my Chemal Eng degree(part time) at UTM Space. I would like to work in oil and gas field if I've given the chance. I want to ask, 1)if I choose QC/QI tech in detergent/chemical field...can I work in QC at semiconductor company also or is it require mechanical/mechatronic background? 2)if I persue in QC field, can I have a chance to work in oil and gas industries? |
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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Jul 7 2014, 08:45 PM) Welcome..heheh.. i already jump 5 company in 5 years.. have many experience during interview..hehe Haha..tips? Sure all interview ask this question "why you leave your current company?" already know what they will ask and how to counter.. but before that make sure your experience is really good and have good qualification ya, can share some tip how to answer during interview... haha But, this is the question I'm more interested, they probably will ask: reason why you leave your current company?? Tips like this : 1- Dont talk bad about your previous company even your company really bad 2- Dont say that you jump for money $$, or low increment, low benefit or any negative item. 3- Safe answer for you want jump company are for future career. Give example to "Moving Foward". Give reason that positive. 4- another good answer- to upgrade skill/multi skill (if you do same job every day), upgrade knowledge, future career, learn new technology (if your current company is old thinking), want to move to management level (if already in technical for long time). 5-Not so safe if you answer about office location, about your team mate problem, transport issue, family. Interviewer will think twice about your answer.they will tembak you kaw-kaw..haha 6-if your company already good, Salary already OK, increment OK, bonus 4 month and so on, and interviewer say "kesian sama you punya company ks you macam-macam tapi you mau cabut" you can give your answer like this. " i give the best for company, company give the best for me. Then its win-win situation. He got what they want, i got what i want. So any problem?" . 7- If they psycho you, you psycho them back but in positive way. P/s : Total interview i already go is 9,7 pass and 2 fail. 2 failed because that time i fresh grad - answer like budak2 that time..no knowledge..hehe |
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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 8 2014, 01:47 PM) Haha..tips? Sure all interview ask this question "why you leave your current company?" whoa, very good advice.... gonna save it for future use Tips like this : 1- Dont talk bad about your previous company even your company really bad 2- Dont say that you jump for money $$, or low increment, low benefit or any negative item. 3- Safe answer for you want jump company are for future career. Give example to "Moving Foward". Give reason that positive. 4- another good answer- to upgrade skill/multi skill (if you do same job every day), upgrade knowledge, future career, learn new technology (if your current company is old thinking), want to move to management level (if already in technical for long time). 5-Not so safe if you answer about office location, about your team mate problem, transport issue, family. Interviewer will think twice about your answer.they will tembak you kaw-kaw..haha 6-if your company already good, Salary already OK, increment OK, bonus 4 month and so on, and interviewer say "kesian sama you punya company ks you macam-macam tapi you mau cabut" you can give your answer like this. " i give the best for company, company give the best for me. Then its win-win situation. He got what they want, i got what i want. So any problem?" . 7- If they psycho you, you psycho them back but in positive way. P/s : Total interview i already go is 9,7 pass and 2 fail. 2 failed because that time i fresh grad - answer like budak2 that time..no knowledge..hehe |
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