I have just tried this fuel and find that it really sucks. I read that the techron can clear old gunk but after using I find worst fuel I have ever tried. Not smooth at all, makes my wira stutter and very difficult to start car. Fuel economy also bad.

Anyday, I will go back to Petron or petronas way smoother and better fuel economy.

Anybody also same experience when using this fuel?

i'm driving nissan, caltex fuel RON 95 just great ..... my personal judgement is car issue

caltex higher fc ..but better performance on my 508

i always use
(RON95)
BHP > Caltex > Petronas > etc > shell

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Nov 19 2013, 10:03 AM

Try filling up few times on Caltex, you might feel the different.

I face the same issue in terms of higher FC when pumping Caltex diesel as well.

9yrs iswara LMST, RON95 caltex less milleage, more smoother compare other. just for reference.

just too much threads like this...

convenient - shell
performance - bhp/petronas

all same, no difference

i found out that caltex station fuel quality seemed to be vary severely!!
i pump at 1 caltex station (taman sejati indah sp),
engine become very powerful and good fc...

but another caltex station (taman legenda sp) about 15 mins from the 1st caltex station, their petrol is totally CRAP!!
no power at all when accelerating, need to floor my pedal down to increase speed on the highway while the first caltex just need to press the pedal as light as feather...

so is the 2nd station doing something funny or simply dirty underground fuel reservoir?

i din see that much different in other brand like shell, BHP,Petronas

This post has been edited by sjz: Nov 19 2013, 11:10 AM

I use Caltex cuci engine...

Other than that, I find BHP to be most favourable.

Caltex gives the best performance but higher FCC, definitely not shell for performance (ron95)
I petronas> caltex> bhp> etc> shell

remember that news where the petrol station being closed down because authorities found the station is giving customer less fuel
there are plenty of method to cheat customer

Same here. Would pump Caltex every once in a while for their Techron cleansing additive. Otherwise it's BHP for their Euro 3 petrol.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 19 2013, 09:34 PM

i think caltex its the ONLY brand that don't have points to collect aka loyalty card/program. its a bit of let down.
I got a bonus link, smiles, mesra, BHP card in my car

In my opinion it does not happen to only Caltex alone and this isn't really about the brand but more to the operator.

Are u serius? My car really like caltex. After 3 years fill it up. My car performance is almost like new. Responsive, and very good performance.

so what should we do about it?
complain to caltex HQ or the kementerian?
obviously there is major difference between fuel quality, and i smell strong fuel-like smell after pumping petrol at that problematic caltex station..

Caltek fan oso here

They've just started recently.

Not the first time i wrote about caltex in lyn - my friend more fanatic about caltex, each time die die must fill caltex...he evem schedule every weekend to go fill up at caltex - just the week usage....myself also prefer Caltex, but the only drawback is too few station, so sometime i would settle for BHP, or even Petronas..hate shell, and despise Petron...

Here we go again with another fuel brand thread.

Has anyone notice where most of the taxis fill up their tanks (non-LPG) ? It's Caltex. I do believe the taxis drivers know best because it's their livelihood to get the best FC and performance.

This post has been edited by E34E36E46: Nov 19 2013, 11:28 PM

I've tried all brands and honestly cannot feel any difference what so ever!

Guess your car's engine is very resilient and accommodative.

Don't know, I'm just using Toyota Mark X & Nissan Livina.

Japs are always more obliging, they will still nod their heads even if they don't agree with you.

I think it could be station dependent, try on those station which is relatively busy -> safer.

This post has been edited by Alan: Nov 20 2013, 08:36 AM

bhp user here.
best thing, the additive supplied by BSF company, one of the best.

bottom line, we pay for the same price.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Nov 20 2013, 09:40 AM

Hahaha maybe, but even if there's a difference I still doubt is that significant enough to be felt, especially if driving normal NA engines. If really high performance cars, or highly modded ones, or forced induction engines, then maybe can feel more difference (like for turbos where you can put on more boost for example). Fifth Gear had done such fuel comparison tests using a midly tuned Golf GTI MK6 (>200whp) and the result was even for different RON rating the difference was still only 3-4hp (which is only <2% from the engine output) which was practically unnoticeable during normal driving. So if different RON rating only return such small difference, then the same RON rating would have even smaller difference, unless the fuel quality is so bad/very much below the supposed std, or somehow contaminated with something else.

Anyway I only fill up Petron coz got loyalty card where 3000pts can be exchanged with rm45 of fuel.

Got lah. Journey card.
Same here as well.

since when petronas become economy fuel?

owhh, i didn't know that! last time they totally don't have!
Checked their website, the Journey Card, almost same as the BCARD eh?

going to get myself one, full collection~!

Not fuel problem. Car problem.

even i hate mahathir
but undeny able petron is one of the best

petron ron97 = win

Most of the fuel are the same...except i found BHP is really sucking. Sam city jam...FC increase by 10-20%.

tried shell, petronas, caltex and petron, this time is the first time i pump bhp not sure what's the FC but throttle feel smoother compare to caltex

been using caltex for half a year and FC is definitely better than petron, petronas and shell

i dont like shell at all, last time pumped shell at different station and i see gas coming out more than the petrol going in while caltex and bhp got lesser gas come out while pumping, feel safer and good for my nose

petron is a big no no, shell or petronas only when there is no choice

fuel are the same(same RON and emission standard like euro 2M or 3) , but they will add in different additive on the petrol


eg: caltex=techron , shell=v-power

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Nov 20 2013, 06:52 PM

I thought BHP is Euro 3 standard? Although they declare is Euro 2, but their fuel is indeed Euro 3 right?

iinm ...bhp purchased fuel from singapore company ..which is euro 3 ..meanwhile other are used euro 2M

Heard of this too.. Only BHP purchased from Singapore.. The rest all take from same source... But duno how true is it..

once awhile..local oil companies will get products from oversea if their refineries unable to meet the local demand but not always.. if a local O&G company get their product direct for singapore...for sure it will subject for import tax , not to mention paying more (exchange rate), extra cost such as off coast oil tankers to send the shipment, storage area and etc yet they sell it at Euro2M price? u think bhp is doing national service or charity ? O&G companies can sell higher grade products but our gomen not going to pay extra subsidy for it and the retail prices still the same..

shell and petronas 1litre only 1 point bhp RM1=1point including shop item.

So after fuel price increase means RM2.1 = 1point fo shell and petronas

From what I learn by my previous working experience in O&G, all of our petrols are purchased from other countries.. We do not not use our own petroleum as car petrols...

Reason? It's because our petroleum is of higher grade and quality, so it is suitable for those usage such as jet fuel and etc... Car petrol do not need such high grade, so it will be a waste to use it as car petrols...

Wonder where is bhp, caltex and petron refineries.. So far I know shell and petronas has their own refineries... Any idea?

Bhp under boustead group... Means they are under LTAT.. Wonder those army got discount to buy lubricant?

caltex has 1 in Philippines...i do not aware bhp or BP has any in south east asia...petron is in port dickson (ex- esso or exxonmobile) but it is as good as dead...

u got it half right....last time our crude oil can fetch higher price because due to low sulfur content and we import cheapo crude oils from somewhere else... but now not the case anymore...

how many of u out there know that the world's most cleanest fossil fuel with almost zero sulfur was born in malaysia....

I know that, lol...

But y now not the case anymore?

Hi all, just sharing my 2 cents on issue of patrols in Malaysia, though I won't proclaim I'm coming from o&g industry

1. Retail fuels are still imported, as has been the case since many years ago. Most are the sour crude from middle east/African countries. The oil extracted off Kerteh/Miri are the sweet crude type and fetches a premium over sour crude. Though sour crude can be processed to Tier4 levels but the process is expensive.

2. There are 3 refiners in Malaysia - Petronas, Shell and Petron (inherited from Mobil). The base stock is imported, no doubt. They also help other brands such as caltex and bhp to blend with their own preferred additives. Ultimately, the fuel leaving these refineries are same and only the additives are different.

3. Some people say certain fuel better, others terrible, but most are attributed to the placebo effect aided by marketing gimmicks. However, I have to say that the cleanliness of the tanks and age of the fuel are the 2 most important attributes - probably more important than additive packages and other gimmicks!

4. BHP boldly claims that their retail petrols are EU3 compliant but I suspect that this claim is based on certain batches of "best case" fuel and not the "everyday" fuel that you and I pump. The point is how consistent is this EU3 quality - is every litre of petrol that consumer pumps into his/her tank is EU3 standard?

5. BHP's diesel is still EU2 like any others

6. By now, most of the diesel in Pen Malaysia are B5 biodiesel blend, and most are _guaranteed_ EU2 quality fuel. Sabah & Sarawak have yet to implement this. Thailand and recently, Indonesia are all B5 now. Rumour in the mill is that there is intention to increase our B5 to B10 to ease our palm old inventory but I doubt many diesel vehicles can accept this with most at B7 level.

Hi all,

I was previously with Caltex. Basically, all the base product (Petrol & Diesel) in Malaysia was purchased from Singapore. Shell, BHP and Petron do purchased a lot of base product from Caltex and there only different is only on the additive injected. For Caltex Petrol additive, it is indeed more corrosive than others as I am having additive from different brands in my previous workplace. I believed it can better clean engine.

same sequence here. haha

Proton satria 96 1.3 cc using techron 95 no jerking and powerful. use other fuel jerking and less power.

Proton preve using techron 95 higher FC and not feel any power improvement. but using shell 95 better FC and similar power also..

I also wondering why...

i use caltex for their techron, cuci my engine a bit..
tested on myvi more smooth compared to others.. even my wife notice it (i didnt tell her, fueled up with caltex)

test on new honda city, cant tell difference..
now test on my motorbike. Yamaha FZ150i.

try ask kelantanese k/ here
i know kelantan got a lot caltex compared to others state

caltex in jb like ghost nowhere be seen. mau try pun susah. everywhere petronas/petron

There is 1 refinery train in Malacca right that produces almost zero sulfur content. I know they export those diesel to California.

Caltex will give higher fc . but definitely you will get better performance and smooth engine . once a month i will pump full tank of caltex ron 97 to clean up my engine .

i pump caltex twice b4, and techron 95 works very well in my old wira, really can feel more smooth, but the stations are not commonly seen at my place

no one able to do so in commercial scale except for shell... the only prototype plant is in bintulu... the first and only full scale commercial production plant is in Qatar... google Pearl GTL

Bro where did you get your source from?

Pearl GTL based on your advice via Google, it all links to Gas liquification. I know in Bintulu there is also where Petronas Gas Berhad has their plants there as well.

http://www.shell.com/global/aboutshell/maj...l/overview.html
http://www.shell.com.qa/en/products-services/pearl.html

To quote the first link


What has that got to do with petrol or diesel with almost zero sulfur or ULSD?

GTL = Gas to Liquids....meaning converting Gas back to liquid.in conventional way, petroleum products are produce thru fractional distillation of crude oil and u will get gas, jet fuel, gasoline, kerosene,diesel, lub and bitumen... the plant in sarawak is known as Shell MSD Sdn Bhd...a plant with multi capabilities..


2004 news


This post has been edited by sukhoi35mk: Nov 21 2013, 11:47 PM

Jalan skudai, jalan pasir gudang, senai, jalan pontian, i saw alot caltex. But people in jb prefer petronas anytime since it convenience and everywhere

now caltex has team up with berjaya Bcard. you can take consideration for it

Pump caltex every once in a while will help to clean engine? Effective ka? Or is it need to use Techron regularly only effective?

Based on your car, Caltex and BHP, which one gives better FC?

all same..
cant tell the difference

In Malaysia the Techron additive can't be bought separately. Only way to get it is pump Caltex petrol



FC-wise both are more or less the same for me.

I know.. What I mean is, is once in a while use Caltex is effective? Or we need to use regularly only it will be effective?

Oh....no idea. I just use it once every 4 full tanks of BHP or so.

I just feel smooth... I fill up my car from Caltex as it's nearby my home, so why not?

Can't say which gives better FC as I don't monitor em, but my butt dyno feels that BHP gives plenty of "kick" to my ride.

Tried on PLUS highway with similar driving style/condition, KL to Penang using BHP and back to KL with Caltex. BHP tends to give me slightly better mileage from the ODO meter of about 0.5km/L.

Caltex 95 ^^ great
Shell 97 ^^ great

Caltex and Petron seem doesn't give much different if FC to my Vios

Yea, all the time I feel BHP is the best fuel for my Vios and my bike

yes i didn't knew it before.
I've just got myself one now i've the complete set of fuel loyalty card for malaysia

Caltex regardless Ron95 or Ron97 also better performance for my saga flx and my friend's myvi

Agree with u

there must be something fishy in that techron additives..

I tried the Caltex RON97, it gives me the worst ever milage for my forte. after 2 pump trial I went back to Petron 97 and it is much better.

No difference lar...all the people kena pyscho only...

Do blind test (someone else take your car go pump at Mystery petrol station and come back and don't tell you which petrol station), see if you can tell the difference, then baru cerita.

bhp for my civic too

my car refuel any petrol also no problem. but recently pump petron because collect points yo. lol.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Dec 5 2014, 03:09 PM

caltex rm40 can win prize mazda ....

This post has been edited by coolstore: Dec 5 2014, 06:38 PM

sticking to Caltex since I get my new cx5 until now.
ron 97 smoother ride
ron 95 less responsive compare to ron 97 (ofcoz la)

previously use esso, however since I realize its related to dr.m, I force myself to switch to Caltex, never regret since then.

haven't got a chance to try on bhp petrol. mayb 1 day I ll.

actually its the same la.
more power = more fc, that's the nature.

i only use bhp and caltex.. i feel caltex will give more millege.. but i force myself to use caltex because of the engine cleaning.. i prefer durability and stability then performance... i guess thats the run down of having techron mix with the gasoline...

overall i give it to caltex because of engine cleaning and very decent millage..

p/s: what's FC??

This post has been edited by SlamberGamer: Jan 13 2016, 08:48 AM

FC is fuel consumption
Normally I will pump any petrol stations if needed be, but mostly I would use Petronas/Petron because of its availability. Not interested in Shell except for Vpower Racing.

ya... thanks to all the product marketing.

But I think Shell RON95 is not actually RON95 but actually lower... since I always get much more engine knocking when using it.
So far other petrol has been the same for me.

i see thank you...

all fuel is same to me.not much difference.
just placebo effect...

I think all fuel should be same. There's times when you do noticed increase mileage for certain refill. That really hard to explain why and how.

Petron petrol is refining at petron refinery port dickson (previously known as Exxonmobil). This old refinery has no special unit to refine bad crude oil. They only receive & refine normal crude oil. They have no cracker unit like petronas or shell.
Thats why i choose petron because of the 'original' petrol from a good crude around the world.

Yup, my engine knocks too when using Shell petrol

Guy,

Is there any Caltex Station which with the Car Workshop?? Would like to try out their engine oil but a lot workshop does not entertain people who get their own engine oil.

Hope you guy can share the location if any, around Selangor or KL.

Thanks.

Caltex now has Clean & Glide technology. Hope this helps even more better for your car!

how is this better than others?

So which one better? Techron vs double additive

Last time before introducing Clean & Glide Technology.....Techron cleans the engine. Now with Clean and Glide, it enhances the cleaning detergent to make it more better and cleans faster for your engine.