1:09am and no cash.

Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Mon Jul 03 13:06:33 2006
[13:06] Jason Lee: Good afternoon
[13:07] scorping: Afternoon
[13:08] Jason Lee: I`m moppy ere
[13:08] Jason Lee: u can call me jason also
[13:08] Jason Lee: you there
[13:09] scorping: yeah
[13:09] scorping: i know u r both moppy n j,boy
[13:09] Jason Lee: kekekeke
[13:09] Jason Lee: no point for me to explain
[13:09] Jason Lee: but we are not the same
[13:10] Jason Lee: is there anyhow u can just give him a chance
[13:10] Jason Lee: cos if u wan to push him so much also no point
[13:10] scorping: i have yet to see even a partical payment
[13:10] Jason Lee: btw just to let u know his phone is bared
[13:11] Jason Lee: so he can`t call you
[13:12] Jason Lee: ok, maybe i will ask him to make some first
[13:12] Jason Lee: other then this matter is there anyhow to settle it
[13:12] Jason Lee: cos i know now he don`t have that much cash
[13:13] scorping: to settle it he must post in the one of my threads when n how much he intends to pay
[13:13] Jason Lee: hmm...
[13:13] scorping: that means also whatever scheme he wants
[13:14] scorping: like 200 a week or month or whatever
[13:14] Jason Lee: wah!!!
[13:14] Jason Lee: u r that good
[13:14] Jason Lee: 200 a month
[13:14] scorping: n the exact date n time the amount to be paid
[13:14] Jason Lee: i can`t take it la
[13:14] Jason Lee: i talk to him
[13:15] Jason Lee: then i will msn u ok
[13:15] scorping: that means he wants to settle he has to post in one of the thread E.G. I will pay on 4th of every month rm200 until the rm700 is completely paid up starting from today
[13:16] scorping: for example
[13:16] scorping: but it has to be black n white in the disput thread
[13:16] Jason Lee: i wan to ask u la
[13:16] Jason Lee: what is the point you wan him to post it
[13:16] scorping: n i will audit my account with a screenshot every month 1 day before n 1 day so ppl can see if he did pay in
[13:17] scorping: so ppl can see
[13:17] scorping: complete transparancy
[13:17] Jason Lee: why don`t like that , i will promise you by this 3 weeks(just for in case) u will get the LCD or the money for sure
[13:18] scorping: u promise? there is no proof of ur promise u know
[13:18] Jason Lee: can you just believe me once more
[13:18] Jason Lee: it depends to you
[13:19] scorping: do u swear on ur father's and mother's life that j,boy will pay by 3 weeks
[13:19] Jason Lee: I don`t mind
[13:19] Jason Lee: but why must said my parents out
[13:19] Jason Lee: if i swear wf myself it`s ok
[13:20] Jason Lee: pls.. we are not kids anymore
[13:20] Jason Lee: if i`m not wrong you are 20 ++ already so do i
[13:20] scorping: thats right
[13:20] scorping: swearing on ur parents' life is a serious thing
[13:20] Jason Lee: i know
[13:20] scorping: it means u absoluely believe in j,boy
[13:20] Jason Lee: that why i said
[13:21] Jason Lee: yes i do
[13:21] scorping: then swear it here
[13:21] Jason Lee: cos i know him since 12 years old
[13:21] scorping: i want to see those words
[13:21] Jason Lee: why not like that
[13:21] scorping: i then i will close both threads for 3 weeks
[13:21] scorping: i will not post in either of them
[13:22] Jason Lee: I swear that he will give you in this 3 weeks if not my life is yours
[13:22] scorping: until 3 weeks is up
[13:22] scorping: Add ur parents' life in
[13:22] scorping: I will not kill u or them if he does not pay up
[13:23] scorping: when u die, god will judge u n ur parents for believing in j,boy
[13:23] scorping: it will be a mark on ur soul so to speak
[13:23] Jason Lee: why don`t like that can u swear that u will close all the thread you open by swearing on ur parents' life
[13:23] scorping: should ur friend fail to u to keep his promise to me
[13:24] Jason Lee: plssplss
[13:24] Jason Lee: don`t play wf parents
[13:24] Jason Lee: this is the first time i`m having a chat
[13:25] Jason Lee: but never thought that u will be that mean
[13:25] scorping: I swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me back RM700 in 3 weeks starting from today i will close both threads, confirm he paid me in full n not mention this whole affair again.
[13:25] scorping: I am not that mean
[13:25] scorping: I am serious
[13:25] Jason Lee: wah!!!!
[13:25] scorping: Now how good is ur faith in him?
[13:28] scorping: that means if he pays me within 3 weeks (that means not 3 weeks n 1 day) i will post in my threads j,boy refunded n i will not talk anymore about it n close both threads
[13:29] scorping: that means the whole case will be discuss online or offline with anyone else
[13:30] scorping: well?
[13:31] scorping: Dont take 3 weeks to decide
[13:41] scorping: i'll be out until 7pm
[13:42] scorping: maybe u're have answer by then
[14:36] Jason Lee: soli
[14:36] Jason Lee: just came back from outside
[14:36] Jason Lee: online or off it`s depends to you
[14:36] Jason Lee: i don`t really mind that much cos those ppl started to api j,boy and myself
[14:38] scorping: so has j,boy accepted the condition?
[14:38] scorping: or have u?
[14:48] scorping: Still thinking?
[14:48] scorping: oh well
[14:56] scorping: If he wants to give a LCD in exchange for money i know someone that will collect it n post it to me.
[14:57] scorping: of course the lcd has to be at least the same model offered or higher
[14:57] scorping: but totally flawless
[14:57] scorping: but the swearing on parents still applies
[19:57] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Mon Jul 03 19:57:21 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Tue Jul 04 12:56:38 2006
[12:57] scorping: I guess J,Boy is not sincere about giving me any amount of money back
[12:57] scorping: I also would mind RM200 a month as long as he swears he will pay on the same day every month without fail. Swear an oath on his parents' lives that is.
[14:55] scorping: go read trade dispute section
[17:39] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Tue Jul 04 17:39:48 2006.
[02:11] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 05 02:11:17 2006.
[03:41] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 05 03:41:02 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Wed Jul 05 10:59:53 2006
[10:59] Jason Lee: Morning
[11:00] Jason Lee: so how or what u wan me to do
[11:00] scorping: make the oath
[11:00] scorping: no real man will lie on his parents' lives
[11:01] Jason Lee: fine!!!!
[11:04] Jason Lee: I swear wf my parents live , J,boy confirm make payment to you in this 3 weeks, And all the f***ers in lyn that talk alot will not live peace for next 2 month
[11:04] Jason Lee: I swear my parents life
[11:05] Jason Lee: happy wf it
[11:06] scorping: Ok please confirm what i repeat from u
[11:07] scorping: You, moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).
[11:08] scorping: Is this what you are swearing?
[11:09] scorping: Confirm so that I can swear to you my original oath too.
[11:10] Jason Lee: Me moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).

[11:10] scorping: Thank you.
[11:11] Jason Lee:
[11:12] Jason Lee: i don`t really understand why u wan to post all our msn history in the forum
[11:12] Jason Lee: make me quite piss off
[11:13] Jason Lee: but i can`t do anything
[11:13] scorping: Then I, RangerRed (Dieter Chan) swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me the RM700 in the agreed time that you, moppy, swore too, then I will not discuss the topic of our problem online or offline. Nor will I comment on your character/personality to other forumers if they ask about you other than you kept your promise that I was refunded.
[11:14] scorping: Do you accept those terms?
[11:14] Jason Lee: it`s total is find wf me
[11:15] scorping: Done and done. Oaths are not accepted.
[11:15] scorping: i mean accepted
[11:15] scorping: Was daydreaming a bit for a second on what I would do to you when typing
[11:16] Jason Lee: kekekekekeke
[11:16] Jason Lee: i don`t really bother that much
[11:16] scorping: Done and done. The oaths are accepted. Lets hope that in 3 weeks time this black day ends.
[11:16] Jason Lee: cos if you really wan to report a police also it hard for you
[11:17] scorping: I will post on the forum that you have arranged that J,Boy will pay me.

The rest of chat log is as we all say chicken talk.

and he's still AWOL....
oh my goodness... q

Any chance super macgyver can help on this? He seems to be in close contact with them (he knows when j,boy falls sick...etc). Not that he is in anyway responsible for this case, of course.

dun know pun, i msn him few time tis morning to reply here, but no response at all.

Remember I did not set the time table. moppy did. I even offered alternative ones.

so what's ur next course of action?

What kind of action can you take against a man that swears on his parents' lives with his own time table? I mean, obviously he doesn't care one bit.

But if you believe in super natural forces like god or karma (i believe in karma), he get what he deserves.

next step report police

and ur money?

woodykids, could be. Gotta go to KL i guess for that.

But a few of my friends there will be happy to ask for me the money back. Maybe i'll ask them first.

And moppy's reply:

[14:08] Jason Lee: don`t worry
[14:08] *** Auto-response sent to Jason Lee: I am currently idle.
[14:08] Jason Lee: he will pay u
[14:08] Jason Lee: i`m so damn sure about that
[14:08] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Wed Jul 26 14:08:32 2006.
[14:21] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 26 14:21:42 2006.
[23:20] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 26 23:20:56 2006.
[08:36] *** "Jason Lee" signed on at Thu Jul 27 08:36:34 2006.
[08:37] Jason Lee: i will give u a very very good answer before lunch time
[08:37] *** Auto-response sent to Jason Lee: I am currently away from the computer.
[12:56] scorping: No answer yet
[13:40] scorping: Still waiting

woodykids.... i dont' get that expression...
or is that someone's nick?

You tried, and you stood by them when it counted, but unfortunately the support is not reciprocated. Not your fault. Time changes people. Even friends.

i suggest tread starter PLEASE GO REPORT THE POLIS BEFORE TOO LATE , you are waiting quite enough , no point for waiting.

The SOFT can't make it well , let's use the HARD way.

yea , i suggest report to police also...

Received a SMS from moppy:

"I know you or someone have just call my company.... i will settle this matter soon"

Wonder what that meant?

Still waiting there , Ranger? I hope you can do something before it too late, seller are twisting now .

I got a reply!! 5pm i will know an answer. Is it the big F U C K U or am I gonna get my refund?

how soon? rangerred already gave you extra 3 weeks extension and yet no call/sms at all to update buyer. how come jboy no longer here? and why always moppy say this and that on jboy's behalf? i thought moppy and jboy working in the same company so jboy must know something and take some initiative to update rangerred.

well both of them claimed using the same person name same bank account and same hp to deal in lowyat so now guess both of them also got mixed up in reality.

* if you really wanna refund rangerred you should have at least pay him some money... rm300 or rm200 or even rm100 sure ppl will accept and give you more time.

This post has been edited by judge-the: Jul 28 2006, 02:54 PM

OMG OMG OMG!!!! 9:30pm today i'll get my first rm100!!! OMG!!! OMG!!!

good luck ranger on ur refund...