QUOTE(wantanseller @ Jun 17 2006, 03:19 AM)
Problem is that a lot of people think of web design as a garage company thingy where web designers don't have liabilities and assets. Worse still, their work is percieved as of little value as demonstrate by our dear thread starter. They get one fella who churns out average design for RM200 and expects everyone else to do the same. I'm sorry but did it occur to you that web design is a business? You know... earn money?
It's like we went back to the dark ages again... this isn't a web design issue, a lot of these people are seriously lacking the the economics department and much less in business.
EDIT: to etsuko for his patience
Importance of Creative value is much what I lacked from the previous posts, I apologize for that. Maybe this should be a complaint on how designers in MYS are overworked and underpaid (since they were the references I used. )It's like we went back to the dark ages again... this isn't a web design issue, a lot of these people are seriously lacking the the economics department and much less in business.
EDIT: to etsuko for his patience
I can get the values of how much large multimillion corporations like Fuji Xerox spend on an identity, but somewhere below that is a big pool of grey. To parse it as another way, most clients would expect something professional at a price higher than a copy of the -professional- software used to make it. (Unless the client's an idiot)
But just as an interesting point, if it is a business, why does pricing look like a small issue? Competition? Most people here seem scarily confident of their abilities...
(Just in case anyone's not getting what I'm relating to, you should know that websites used to pay companies for placing ads. )