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nlik
post Aug 17 2007, 02:34 PM

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hi, need some freelancer to do a simple flash thing. Follow this "welcome to MMC" box.
sample of expected work

Do use Royalty free image or self created.

Please PM me, how long it takes and the costs. Also need some brief instruction how to change the text once it's handed over.

Thanks.


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post Aug 22 2007, 10:40 AM

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guys

i want your help in giving a cost for this website

http://www.tiss-msc.com/web2/public/index.asp

here you go..click on it....and tell me your best price you can give for this website


interms of design and flash usage.


and give me a rating 1-10 for this website as well


thanks

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ahsham
post Aug 22 2007, 12:14 PM

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Recently there has been a few request from client asking for a Blog design,
(eg. blogspot, wordpress..etc)

How much do you guys normally charge for a blog design?
(design + coding + upload to server)

thx.
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post Aug 22 2007, 01:19 PM

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Make it from scratch I will charge RM 3000 +

If use any open source thing just RM 1500 -

(just my OPINION)

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post Aug 23 2007, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(ahsham @ Aug 22 2007, 12:14 PM)
Recently there has been a few request from client asking for a Blog design,
(eg. blogspot, wordpress..etc)

How much do you guys normally charge for a blog design?
(design + coding + upload to server)

thx.
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Normally, if you are talking about JUST a blog design, which includes:
  1. First prototype (in photoshop, JPEG files showing various website states)
  2. Second prototype (in photoshop, updates from first prototype)
  3. Implementation (convert to wordpress/cms theme, xhtml + css)
  4. Final changes

Expect RM800-1000 for a normal to semi-professional design, and RM1000-2000 for a professional/commercial design.
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post Aug 25 2007, 06:26 PM

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I never visited for awhile suddenly so many things to comment. smile.gif
QUOTE(Femi @ Aug 13 2007, 04:18 PM)
Hi all Gurus out there! I want to ask, how much does it worth for website similar to this(without error from page).
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RM500 - Student
RM1000 - 1500 - Fresh Graduate (Freelancer)
RM2000 - 4000 - Small company

The charges above have no Flash. Reason is simple - the Flash isn't helping bring them business anyway.

QUOTE(yamitenshi @ Aug 16 2007, 11:23 AM)
wow, so webpg designer in malaysia charge at tht rate (min rm100 per pg)? i wanna find someone who can help me design/ create a webpg. My fren offer to do it at USD200 for the whole package. So is this a good offer? i think my site will have more than ten pages (O_o)
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There isn't a standard rate. As you view from the charges above, a student could charge much lower than that. I believe the value of the project should be defined by a customer from the portfolio and provider.

QUOTE(nlik @ Aug 17 2007, 02:34 PM)
hi, need some freelancer to do a simple flash thing. Follow this "welcome to MMC" box.
sample of expected work

Do use Royalty free image or self created.

Please PM me, how long it takes and the costs. Also need some brief instruction how to change the text once it's handed over.

Thanks.
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Most likely the same charges as I mentioned above.

QUOTE(pdd_inc @ Aug 22 2007, 10:40 AM)
guys

i want your help in giving a cost for this website

http://www.tiss-msc.com/web2/public/index.asp

here you go..click on it....and tell me your best price you can give for this website
interms of design and flash usage.
and give me a rating 1-10 for this website as well
thanks
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Same price for Student and Freelancer, less RM500-1000 for a small company.

Aesthetic Rating : 5

Usability Rating : 3

QUOTE(ahsham @ Aug 22 2007, 12:14 PM)
Recently there has been a few request from client asking for a Blog design,
(eg. blogspot, wordpress..etc)

How much do you guys normally charge for a blog design?
(design + coding + upload to server)

thx.
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Just a blog or inclusive of the website..?

QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 23 2007, 12:26 PM)
Normally, if you are talking about JUST a blog design, which includes:

  1. First prototype (in photoshop, JPEG files showing various website states)
  2. Second prototype (in photoshop, updates from first prototype)
  3. Implementation (convert to wordpress/cms theme, xhtml + css)
  4. Final changes

Expect RM800-1000 for a normal to semi-professional design, and RM1000-2000 for a professional/commercial design.
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It's pretty much there but professional/commercial design hasn't reached its peak yet because:
1. Corporate blogging is new.
2. Very few do Internet advertising.
3. Website value is still lower than average.
4. Commercial agencies in Malaysia do NOT know how to handle blogging well. Only a handful do.

The best method in charging semi-pro to commercial prices is by providing a website utilizing the blog publishing system. These systems are evolving into CMSes therefore they can not maintain websites as well as blogs. However, they are still not as good as sole CMSes or websites. tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2007, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 25 2007, 06:26 PM)

Just a blog or inclusive of the website..?
It's pretty much there but professional/commercial design hasn't reached its peak yet because:
1. Corporate blogging is new.
2. Very few do Internet advertising.
3. Website value is still lower than average.
4. Commercial agencies in Malaysia do NOT know how to handle blogging well. Only a handful do.

The best method in charging semi-pro to commercial prices is by providing a website utilizing the blog publishing system. These systems are evolving into CMSes therefore they can not maintain websites as well as blogs. However, they are still not as good as sole CMSes or websites. tongue.gif
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What I meant was just designing the layout, coding xhtml + css,
then integrate it into an existing blog system (such as Wordpress or blogspot.com).




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QUOTE(ahsham @ Aug 25 2007, 09:56 PM)
What I meant was just designing the layout,  coding xhtml + css,
then integrate it into an existing blog system (such as Wordpress or blogspot.com).
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Sounds like just a blog design project. smile.gif

Well, for a student...I would say RM250-500, freelance 500++1000...pro / small company 1000++

but of course, prices is judged by several factors like portfolio, experience, marketing and etc...so these are standard industry rates.

This post has been edited by etsuko: Aug 25 2007, 11:36 PM
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post Aug 28 2007, 10:00 AM

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Hi bros. anyone knows a good webhost and domain package that i could get for my agencies website? the desgn is done and am searching for one. thanks.
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QUOTE(tape23 @ Aug 28 2007, 10:00 AM)
Hi bros. anyone knows a good webhost and domain package that i could get for my agencies website? the desgn is done and am searching for one. thanks.
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Urm...we have (or had) a large database of them..

Goldfries..where is it ar?
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post Sep 2 2007, 05:12 AM

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try search around the forum. There are few offering gud services on webhosting. Hosted locally, it is much more easier if you hav any difficulties accessing it. Any its also cheaper compare to other webhost in US and so on. It will be much faster for local people to access the site (if you are targeting local user)
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post Sep 3 2007, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(zorex @ Sep 2 2007, 05:12 AM)
try search around the forum. There are few offering gud services on webhosting. Hosted locally, it is much more easier if you hav any difficulties accessing it. Any its also cheaper compare to other webhost in US and so on. It will be much faster for local people to access the site (if you are targeting local user)
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I found it...

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/208286
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post Sep 4 2007, 09:48 AM

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thanks etsuko. smile.gif
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Im looking for a freelance website builder. Just a small project with a budget of RM500. Kindly mail to hilmiresources@gmail.com. Cheers.
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post Sep 12 2007, 01:23 AM

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how much should i charge for a website similar like the following website, develope in html+css:
http://www.zyklop.de/
http://www.sofrana.co.nz/

normally how much u charge for per page? and for a whole design + develope page ?


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post Sep 12 2007, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(belpurple @ Sep 12 2007, 01:23 AM)
how much should i charge for a website similar like the following website, develope in html+css:
http://www.zyklop.de/
http://www.sofrana.co.nz/

normally how much u charge for per page? and for a whole design + develope page ?
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It depends whether is a small business or a big business...I would charge around 1k-1.3k... including hosting and domain name.
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post Sep 12 2007, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(efarhan @ Sep 12 2007, 01:16 PM)
It depends whether is a small business or a big business...I would charge around 1k-1.3k... including hosting and domain name.
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around RM1000+ ?
if that is only a blog, how much would you charge? charge for a student, student price. RM500- RM1000? or more?

This post has been edited by belpurple: Sep 12 2007, 10:53 PM
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post Sep 13 2007, 02:01 AM

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Sometime those paying things are very hurting our mind (for freelancer).

I think is because Those Client know how to play mind game. They always use "i can find other ppl do cheaper than you......blablabla....." as a reasons to lower down the price.....

Hey come on ppl everything is already increased those prices then what is your reason still lowering your price~ Petrol price grown, lunch spending also grow due to everthing is grown, TOLL grow......event polis KOPI(O) also grow......do u realise that?

So pls, graphic designer we all should start stand stronger.......We are work for life........is tiime to building up this market...........a new age is coming........ More n more of this web thing is getting usefull to those ppl in the world. If not why ppl want to find guys like us to work for them!!!

I appologize if i had said anything wrong, pls correct me if i do. And i also hoping this field will still moving to a bright, excellent future.

P/s: Pls comment something if u feel somthing same~ Good day.
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QUOTE(belpurple @ Sep 12 2007, 10:49 PM)
around RM1000+ ?
if that is only a blog, how much would you charge? charge for a student, student price. RM500- RM1000? or more?
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like who cares if it's a blog. as long as it's a design, it's chargeable.

furthermore, you think design theme for blog that easy?
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post Sep 13 2007, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 13 2007, 02:38 AM)
like who cares if it's a blog. as long as it's a design, it's chargeable.

furthermore, you think design theme for blog that easy?
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goldfries has a point there, as long its a design, it will cost you. It doesn't matter whether its a blog or a corporate site. In terms of student, maybe I can consider as to keep a good rapport with the student. He or she can help to recommend you to other "potential clients" in the future as well.

The equation goes like this:-

Reasonable price to student = student happy = student will recommend other students to freelancer = freelancer will have business. rclxms.gif

go figure... cheers


Added on September 13, 2007, 9:41 am
QUOTE(belpurple @ Sep 12 2007, 10:49 PM)
around RM1000+ ?
if that is only a blog, how much would you charge? charge for a student, student price. RM500- RM1000? or more?
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I will have a look on what is the student's requirements (assignment?). Then judge from there.

This post has been edited by efarhan: Sep 13 2007, 09:41 AM

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