what for?

When the conti car breaks down in the middle of no where...worse if late at night in the middle of the highway, or even in the city...see safe or not. While waiting for tow trucks, kena rob. Conti safety department good? Bullsit

i hope u do realize car manufacturers classify their cars differently in different market...

i really hate to butt in this conversation but i think you misunderstood what he said. i think what he's talking about is the safety features of a car.

but i am not talking about car manufacturer classifying their car as they wish, i am talking about vehicle classification defined by law and regulations

China: Vehicle size categories for passenger vehicles for the China NCAP program as defined by the China Automotive Technology and Research Center (CATARC)

USA: US EPA Size Class

Europe: Euro NCAP Class (1997 - 2009)

but even if you were to ignore and disregard that, just as laymen, if you, as a prospect owner of a VW Jetta discover that the automobile code name 'Jetta' in China that you drive are only worthy as a Vios Contender (category A) in the Biggest car market in the world , how do you like it?

Surely it bother you? ignorance is not bliss, you deserve better

i hope u do realise too that vehicle classifications by laws and regulations are drawn up again after meetings between car manufacturers and law makers right?

and by classifying certain vehicle under certain categories in different market allows car manufacturers to escape or work around certain barriers/tariffs etc... i do hope u know that too...

and i do hope u know this too...
by getting their product classified under certain categories, allows them to spec down/spec up their product and thus increasing profit margin....

there is no point feeling proud that my car is classified as premium in china when in malaysia even a current corolla altis has better spec....
case in point 408 non turbo vs current altis...
altis has VSC, a "premium-classification" 408 in china don't have VSC here...

so?
can i classify those who purchase a 408-non turbo in malaysia, just because they want a car model that is classified as premium in china as ignorance or do they deserve better?

the TS is talking about 408 turbo that comes with confirmed 6 airbags (driver and front passenger side, front and rear curtain airbags), as well as electronic stability programme (ESP), which features anti-slip regulation (ASR) and dynamic stability control (DSC) functions., may i know what is the purpose you want to bring in non turbo for discussion?

and Altis? another OVERPRICED small family /compact car, do you recommend it to TS? 135k i heard (THE NEW ONE)

without knowing what the spec for NEW ALTIS for Malaysia. i can only use old Altis for our market for comparison to pug 408, Altis 1.6 E or 1.8 E are without VSC & TRC and provide only dual air bags here in Malaysia selling at 107k to 113k

while the 1.8G & 2.0V only provide dual airbags but comes with VSC & TRC at price of 123 to 132k

also the premium classification did not comes from China, it comes from wikipedia that class it under compact executive car , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Compact_executive_cars which is actually a Vernacular British English terminology

it is not about being proud or not, it is if you want a car that is literally and legimately 'a class above' (ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA & OF COZ CHINA NCAP & China Automotive Technology and Research Center (CATARC), you have a choice


This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 7 2013, 07:21 PM

408 is rated premium, hence i bring it into the picture... 408T or not...

but u still have yet to get back to me on car makers getting their cars classified lower or higher up the segment in each market...
that is how and have been the way it is done since day one...

if u have a slight inkling into how the automotive industry work beyond just spec list, u will know...
else u will just sound like a empty bucket picking up information from wiki....

wikipedia....
that just wipe credibility clean off...

the deal here is not many buyer know, right? and that is my point

Now, when it comes to getting info, where do you think the buyer is going to refer to? do you expect them to refer to how automotive industry work, how car maker (yes , please go ahead and trust them) classified lower or higher up the segment in each market. Does what makes sense to the car maker or to the car industry necessarily makes sense to car buyer, do buyer even care?

Car buyer care about spec and class , and value for money , and that you can take it to the bank

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 7 2013, 07:30 PM

anyway, the TS has already made his choice

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=64376657

Can't you smell something in my reply?
Smells something like sarcasm.

I find many here in LYN are having nose block.

nvm....
i can see what answer u are going to throw next if i respond as this response is exactly what i am expecting from previous replies... predictable..

408 is classified premium and same level as BMW in china, so it must be premium too in malaysia...

alrighty...
point taken...

welcome to the premium car club....

Wow jumping into conclusion so soon?

cant help if one choose to live in a delusional dimension

That's because you have been smelling too many sooi kwan contis

You sir are obviously the empty can loud sound making name calling person that you have described

Do you even know what is the definition of premium do you even know what is executive car and what is the different it has with a family car?

http://www.asianauto.com/

Winners of the Asian Auto Fuel Efficiency Awards 2012
Compact City Cars
1
Mitsubishi Mirage 1.2

4.8L/100km
2 Suzuki Alto 5.0L/100km
2 Hyundai I10 kappa 5.0L/100km
3 Perodua Myvi 1.3 (NEW) 6.2L/100km

Compact Premium Cars
1 Alfa Giuletta 1.4 5.2L/100km
2 Audi A1 TFSI 5.6L/100km
3 Mercedes Benz B-Class B200 5.8L/100km

Small Family Cars
1 Ford Fiesta 1.4L Manual 5.7L/100km
2 Proton Saga 1.3 Manual 6.0L/100km
3 Honda City 6.1L/100km

Small Premium Family Cars
1 VW Polo TSI 5.7L/100km
2 Ford Focus Ecoboost (NEW) 5.8L/100km
3 Mazda3 1.6 6.7L/100km

Luxury Family Cars
1 Toyota Altis 1.8L 7-Speed 5.5L/100km
2 Proton Preve 5.8L/100km
3 Volkswagen Jetta 1.4 TSI (NEW) 6.0L/100km

Premium Family Cars
1 VW Passat Sedan 1.8 TSI (NEW) 7.0L/100km
2 Volvo S60 1.6 T4 Powershift 6-Speed 7.5L/100km
2 Suzuki Kizashi 2.5 (NEW) 7.5L/100km
3 Ford Mondeo 2L EcoBoost(NEW) 7.7L/100km

Executive Cars
1 BMW 320i (NEW) 6.0L/100km
2 Mercedes C-Class 200 CGI 7.2L/100km
2 Volkswagen CC 1.8TFSI 7.2L/100km
3 Volvo S60 1.6 Turbo T4 (NEW) 7.3L/100km

Premium Executive Cars
1 BMW 520 Diesel (NEW) 5.2L/100km
2 Mercedes E-Class E200K CGI (NEW) 5.6L/100km
3 Jaguar XF 3L Diesel (NEW) 6.8L/100km

Super Saloons
1 Porsche Panamera Diesel 6.5L/100km
2 Mercedes Benz CLS 350 6.8L/km100
3 Jaguar XJL Diesel (NEW) 7.0L/100km

Performance Coupe Cars
1 Volkswagen Scirrocco TFSi 6.3L/100km
2 Toyota GT86 6.9L/100km
3 Audi A5 2L TFSI Quattro (NEW) 7.5L/100km

Performance Hot Hatch
1 Mini Cooper S JCW 6.9L/100km
2 Ford Focus ST (NEW) 7.2L/100km
3 Volkswagen Golf GTi Mk6 7.4L/100km

Pickup Trucks
1 Isuzu D-Max Hi-DEF 7.6L/100km
2 Mazda BT50 (NEW) 7.7L/100km
2 Ford Ranger XLT (NEW) 7.7L/100km
3 Mitsubishi Triton (NEW) 8.2L/100km

Compact MPV’s
1 Honda Freed 1.5L 6.1L/100km
2 Volkswagen Cross Touran 1.4L TSI 7.0L/100km
3 Toyota Avanza 1.5L 7.1L/100km

Luxury MPV’s
1 Ford S-Max Ecoboost 2L 8.1L/100km
2 VW Sharan TFSI 8.5L/100km
3 Mercedes R-Class R280 8.9L/100km

Compact SUV’s
1 Range Rover Evoque 2.2L Diesel (NEW) 5.7L/100km
2 Land Rover Freelander 2.2L TD4 Diesel 7.0L/100km
2 Subaru XV 7.0L/100km
3 BMW X3 2-L Twinturbo 7.5L/100km

Luxury SUV’s
1 Lexus RX 270 6.3L/100km
2 VW Touareg 3L Diesel 7.2L/100km
2 Porsche Cayenne Diesel 7.2L/100km
3 VW Touareg Hybrid 8.2L/100km

Premium SUV’s
1 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport VGT 2.5L Diesel (NEW) 6.7L/100km
2 Chevrolet Captiva 2.0 Diesel (NEW) 7.0L/100km
3 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2L Diesel (NEW) 7.2L/100km

Hybrids
1 Toyota Prius c (NEW) 3.7L/100km
2 Lexus CT200h 3.8L/100km
3 Toyota Prius 3rd Generation 3.9L/100km

408 is a Compact Executive Car which is in a different class from a family car

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 8 2013, 01:17 PM

here is another

NST MAYBANK COTY LIST OF WINNER CAR OF THE YEAR 2012

Compact Car of the Year – Honda CR-Z

Premium Compact Car of the Year – Mercedes-Benz B 200

Family Car of the Year – Ford Focus

Executive Car of the Year – Peugeot 508

Premium Executive Car of the Year (below RM300,000) – BMW 328i

Premium Executive Car of the Year (above RM300,000) – BMW 528i Performance Car of the Year – Toyota 86

Coupe/Cabriolet of the Year – Mercedes-Benz SLK

Station Wagon of the Year – Peugeot 508 SW

SUV of the Year – Mazda CX-5

Premium SUV of the Year – Range Rover Evoque

MPV of the Year – Proton Exora Bold

Premium MPV of the Year – Nissan Elgrand

Pick-Up Truck of the Year – Ford Ranger 2.2

Overall Car of the Year 2012 – Ford Ranger 2.2

Automotive Man of the Year 2012 – Datuk Samson Anand George, Chief Operating Officer, Nasim Sdn Bhd

Special Mention Awards

People’s Choice Award 2012 – Kia Optima

Best Value Compact Sedan of the Year – Proton Saga FLX SE

Eco Innovation Award of the Year – Nissan Leaf

Good Design Award of the Year – Hyundai Elantra sedan best design

This list of best car to buy in Malaysia is really a good guide for us to make a choice to buy a car in malaysia. Malaysia best car award by Maybank and NST is based on vote and value for money specification.

I don't see any Bently or Rolls Royce in there so this list is obviously not premium enough

they were not nominated by the judges of those awards for whatever reason. Seriously

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/06/18/peugeot-4...for-the-family/

quote

While marketed as an executive sedan, this Gallic compact does tick a lot of the boxes necessary for a good family car.

Young executives want aggression, speed, good looks and a semi-anti-establishment disposition.

Older executives want something regal, mature, comfortable and boring.

While the 408 is a fast car, it isn't aggressive, does look good but is too fun to be old or boring.

The apple does not fall too far from the tree is an apt aphorism to define the 408's looks.

unquote

i feel like writing this,

Orang bodoh sombong tak payah diajar, tak payah ditegur. Buang masa. Dah ajar dah tunjuk, dia jugak yg betul.