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 Peugeot 408 1.6T OR 2nd Hand Volkswagen Jetta 1.4, Only consider these 2

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 31 2013, 01:58 PM)
Why not consider the new Vios?
No need to worry this and that.
Proven and out perform these two cars.

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No one consider Citroen? cry.gif
kob3bryant
post Nov 2 2013, 02:47 PM

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Citiroen is above RM120k right?
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Jetta pre reg 0 mileage also 139k iinm...
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post Nov 4 2013, 05:35 PM

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Thanks guys for all the feedbacks. Appreciate them.

Test drove the Peugeot 408T, have to say quite fun to drive and spacious too. Previously I was driving honda city. Power also quite good.

For a 2012 2nd hand Jetta, with less than 10,000km mileage, the price is ard RM125k.

Still deciding should i get the VW or Pug
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QUOTE(donhay @ Nov 4 2013, 05:35 PM)
Thanks guys for all the feedbacks. Appreciate them.

Test drove the Peugeot 408T, have to say quite fun to drive and spacious too. Previously I was driving honda city. Power also quite good.

For a 2012 2nd hand Jetta, with less than 10,000km mileage, the price is ard RM125k.

Still deciding should i get the VW or Pug
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Upgrading from a h.city to any of these two will sure give the wrong impression.
Since both of these cars are already at a different league. NA 1.5 to Turbocharged engines.

My advise, don't compare how better these cars are to your old ride. Set new benchmark and compare them between your choices.

One thing is for sure, Jetta would have almost no turbo lag at all, the Germans are better at that in this perspective. Don't just test drive by flooring it, how the car behave in stop and go traffic is important as well. It drives you nuts if the traffic requires you to control your throttle to hover around the RPM where turbo is kicked in. blush.gif

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post Nov 4 2013, 06:31 PM

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Test drive both cars and see which one you like more including interior and exterior.

Both can be problematic cars but Jetta is on the upper hand.
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Nov 4 2013, 06:11 PM)
Upgrading from a h.city to any of these two will sure give the wrong impression.
Since both of these cars are already at a different league. NA 1.5 to Turbocharged engines.

My advise, don't compare how better these cars are to your old ride. Set new benchmark and compare them between your choices.

One thing is for sure, Jetta would have almost no turbo lag at all, the Germans are better at that in this perspective. Don't just test drive by flooring it, how the car behave in stop and go traffic is important as well. It drives you nuts if the traffic requires you to control your throttle to hover around the RPM where turbo is kicked in.  blush.gif
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that's no lagy probably due to the supercharge in early stage then follow by turbo charge

QUOTE(xiper @ Nov 4 2013, 06:31 PM)
Test drive both cars and see which one you like more including interior and exterior.

Both can be problematic cars but Jetta is on the upper hand.
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Jetta is like having more problem with a lot of used unit in the market right?
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u can catch the supercharger napping at times...

i caught it napping way too often...
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Have test drive both and both are good cars.
Both are Conti and both uses the best engines in their categories, the VW 1.4 TSI and the BMW-PSA 1.6 THP are both awarded best international engines in their respective categories.


For about the same price, you'd get a new Pug and 2nd hand VW
Both are Euro 5 cars but Jetta has better fC i think since the engine is smaller

To me :
The Pug 408T interior is nicer and it comes in full leather
The VW Jetta exterior looks better
Pug 408T is more spacious
Pug 408T is more powerful
lastly...Pug 408T also uses Porsche 6 speed tiptronic gearbox. Since most people cannot own a Porshe, at least you'd get a Porsche Gearbox..hehe


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CoffeeDude says go for Vios. I beg to disagree.

Don't think you can compare vios to the Pug 408T or the Jetta. These 2 are way ahead in terms of technology(engine and transmission systems), comfort, safety, handling and power.
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oops…my mistake It was not CoffeeDude who proposes Vios, it was skyblu3. My apology dude.
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QUOTE(Nokie @ Nov 5 2013, 09:33 AM)
CoffeeDude says go for Vios. I beg to disagree.

Don't think you can compare vios to the Pug 408T or the Jetta. These 2 are way ahead in terms of technology(engine and transmission systems), comfort, safety, handling and power.
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Lolx... you didnt get the sarcastism at all.
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post Nov 5 2013, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Nov 5 2013, 11:19 AM)
Lolx... you didnt get the sarcastism at all.
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No. What sarcastism are you talking about?
I was serious about the Vios. No joke, I AM SERIOUS. mad.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Nov 5 2013, 11:19 AM)
Lolx... you didnt get the sarcastism at all.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 5 2013, 01:08 PM)
No.  What sarcastism are you talking about?
I was serious about the Vios.  No joke, I AM SERIOUS.    mad.gif
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seriously??? doh.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 01:36 PM

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Did test drove the Jetta before and given it's small 1.4TSi engine, the power/torque is pretty decent and DSG shifts are just superb. But the accessories of the car is pretty bare. No HID/projector headlights, fabric seats etc. For that price, I just couldn't justify the purchase. Plus with all current cases of dry DSGs being plagued with failed mechatronics and clutch packs, it just doesn't make sense to trouble myself in the long run after the warranty period ends.

With the inevitable fuel hike and reduction of subsidy soon, why not consider a diesel? A 2010 BMW 320d is as low as RM130k nowadays (should be even lower next year). You get the torque of the 3.0L turbo petrol (380nm) and a decent horsepower of 184bhp. Plus, no dry DSG fault nonsense. And the diesel engine + ZF 6-spd gearbox is bullet-proof and proven. Brand, power, reliability and RWD fun all in one package, albeit being an older car.

A visit to few dealers saw some with as low as 35k km milleage with warranty and BMW'S BSRI still intact.

Those skeptics will say Malaysian diesel is dirty and smells bad but they will eat humble pie once you smoke 'em (sometimes literally) with your torque monster and yet claim a FC of 6-7L/100km. 100% city driving + rempit mode on 50% of the time still get you a 700km per full tank while pure highway driving gets you 1000km per tank.

Here's an example of current one on sale:
http://www.mudah.my/BMW+320d+M+SPORT+LCI+F...KD-23592923.htm

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QUOTE(kob3bryant @ Nov 4 2013, 08:58 PM)
that's no lagy probably due to the supercharge in early stage then follow by turbo charge
Jetta is like having more problem with a lot of used unit in the market right?
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Like I said, both are problematic but u can take a look compare between the 308 and Golf TSI, the second market for 308 at year 2011 left only 50% of the price and Golf TSI is about 70% of the price left. That is why I said the VW is on the better side as compared to Peugeot.
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Nov 5 2013, 01:36 PM)
Did test drove the Jetta before and given it's small 1.4TSi engine, the power/torque is pretty decent and DSG shifts are just superb. But the accessories of the car is pretty bare. No HID/projector headlights, fabric seats etc. For that price, I just couldn't justify the purchase. Plus with all current cases of dry DSGs being plagued with failed mechatronics and clutch packs, it just doesn't make sense to trouble myself in the long run after the warranty period ends.

With the inevitable fuel hike and reduction of subsidy soon, why not consider a diesel? A 2010 BMW 320d is as low as RM130k nowadays (should be even lower next year). You get the torque of the 3.0L turbo petrol (380nm) and a decent horsepower of 184bhp. Plus, no dry DSG fault nonsense. And the diesel engine + ZF 6-spd gearbox is bullet-proof and proven. Brand, power, reliability and RWD fun all in one package, albeit being an older car.

A visit to few dealers saw some with as low as 35k km milleage with warranty and BMW'S BSRI still intact.

Those skeptics will say Malaysian diesel is dirty and smells bad but they will eat humble pie once you smoke 'em (sometimes literally) with your torque monster and yet claim a FC of 6-7L/100km. 100% city driving + rempit mode on 50% of the time still get you a 700km per full tank while pure highway driving gets you 1000km per tank.

Here's an example of current one on sale:
http://www.mudah.my/BMW+320d+M+SPORT+LCI+F...KD-23592923.htm
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I fully agreed 320d is a better buy! M-sport UDM driving experience and the fuel consumption are really best of the best combination!
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 5 2013, 01:08 PM)
No.  What sarcastism are you talking about?
I was serious about the Vios.  No joke, I AM SERIOUS.    mad.gif
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Vios? Seriouslly rubbish!!

Myvee will run rings around your Vios.
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Nov 5 2013, 01:36 PM)
Did test drove the Jetta before and given it's small 1.4TSi engine, the power/torque is pretty decent and DSG shifts are just superb. But the accessories of the car is pretty bare. No HID/projector headlights, fabric seats etc. For that price, I just couldn't justify the purchase. Plus with all current cases of dry DSGs being plagued with failed mechatronics and clutch packs, it just doesn't make sense to trouble myself in the long run after the warranty period ends.

With the inevitable fuel hike and reduction of subsidy soon, why not consider a diesel? A 2010 BMW 320d is as low as RM130k nowadays (should be even lower next year). You get the torque of the 3.0L turbo petrol (380nm) and a decent horsepower of 184bhp. Plus, no dry DSG fault nonsense. And the diesel engine + ZF 6-spd gearbox is bullet-proof and proven. Brand, power, reliability and RWD fun all in one package, albeit being an older car.

A visit to few dealers saw some with as low as 35k km milleage with warranty and BMW'S BSRI still intact.

Those skeptics will say Malaysian diesel is dirty and smells bad but they will eat humble pie once you smoke 'em (sometimes literally) with your torque monster and yet claim a FC of 6-7L/100km. 100% city driving + rempit mode on 50% of the time still get you a 700km per full tank while pure highway driving gets you 1000km per tank.

Here's an example of current one on sale:
http://www.mudah.my/BMW+320d+M+SPORT+LCI+F...KD-23592923.htm
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that's the perfect choice of all!

QUOTE(xiper @ Nov 5 2013, 02:19 PM)
Like I said, both are problematic but u can take a look compare between the 308 and Golf TSI, the second market for 308 at year 2011 left only 50% of the price and Golf TSI is about 70% of the price left. That is why I said the VW is on the better side as compared to Peugeot.
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you don't get me, i m referring to 408, everyone knows that 408 is way different story with 308. another reason that the golf tsi fair a better 2nd value is that ppl take VW as a premium brand

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