these 320d has i-drive system ^^
http://www.mudah.my/BMW+320d+M+Sport+Edition-24054998.htm
http://www.mudah.my/BMW+320d+A+-23704777.htm

408 is fugly as fuark.

get civic is hell alot better lol.

jetta ftw anw

Nah.... Vios should not be comparing with 408 nor Jetta.
Almighty Vios should competing with almight K5

First time i heard someone recommending BMW for reliability

And pls don't give the wrong impression to TS that affording the same loan amount is equal to total ownership cost of the car. Something tells me you don't have a clue why that 320d is fetching that horrible resale value.

Why? Your myvee steering rack got stuck?

probably you can check at VW... i believe they have some sort of pre-reg jetta with low mileage.. around RM130K

why?

Well in general, all continental cars have bad resale value, and the first owner took most of the hit for the first 2-3 years, it's a known fact, regardless of badges. Just search on Mudah for the same year 320i (petrol version of the E90) and the same depreciation is applicable. There's nothing to do with the car being diesel or not. To add to the fact that most Malaysians are not well-educated when comes to diesel just make the resale value worse, which makes the car a bargain to get as compared to the other 2 which TS is considering.

Also, what makes you think that the total ownership cost of the other 2 options are better than the BMW by the way? Do you own a any of the 2 or BMW currently or in the past to justify your statement?

I just got mine recently after much consideration which I was initially torn between the Jetta, used Passat and the 320d. It's basically a no brainer choice in the end when I found my current unit. Joined the 3er diesel group and has found various more than satisfied owners of the same car. Heck, there is this guy who clocked 223k km milleage (claimed to be the highest clocked 320d in Malaysia) on his 2009 320d and yet the only parts replaced are the shock absorbers and oil sump nut, apart from the usual engine oil, filter and ATF change. Faultless engine and gearbox.

Yes, BMW is never known for reliability (has my fair share of experience owning the old 3er E46) but this diesel is just different. Coupled with the great fuel consumption but still get to enjoy 380nm of torque, it's just a well-rounded car.

That's a very good shortlist you have there, mate.
Especially the B6 Passat & 320d. Too bad Jetta GTI don't exist.

Well, all 3 falls within the same price range of sub-130-140k ish so its just make sense to compare all. Jetta has a 12k discount so that makes it a very interesting option, especially since it's a new car. But after reading much about the 320d, test drove and found a very sweet deal, that just seals it.

408T is more powerful then a 1.4 TSI twincharge engine?
u gotta be kidding me...

the 1.4 TSI pull much better then a 408T... no way a 408T or a 308T can keep up with a 1.4 TSI in hard acceleration from standstill or on-demand/in gear acceleration...

tested many times over even with driver swap...


btw its not a Porsche gearbox... its "Porsche software" running the gearbox...
big difference there....

well said, by the way, are you the guy who created an expenses page or the e46 from the first day of ownership (got as 2nd hand) and decided to sell off within 2 years? In bmwclubmalaysia?

I as 408T owner... I admit and agree this.
408's turbo has no match to 1.4 TSi, unless u chip it.

http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...system-failures

Just make sure you send your affected BMW to fix the issue if applicable

peugeot 408 come with 5 years free service

i am not sure whether this promo still available or not ..kindly check

for me ..i will go for 408 turbo

Thanks guys.

I have yet to test drove the Jetta. I test drove the Civic 2.0 , but don't like the interior, and found the handling not right for me. I know Civic will have better resale value, that's not important to me.

I know Vios will be more affordable and better in resale value and worth every rinngit. Its too small and too many on the road. Not my cup of teh.

Will check out the BMW 3 series diesel now.

Thanks guys for all the inputs.

I kid you not, here is another proof

Contender to VW Jetta in China is newly launch Vios
http://www.carnewschina.com/2013/11/07/new...ina-car-market/

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The new Toyota Vios has been launched on the China car market. Price starts at 69.800 yuan and ends at 112.800 yuan. The new Toyota Vios debuted on the Shanghai Auto Show in April, it is the cheapest Toyota branded sedan available on the Chinese auto market, competing head to head with cars like the Volkswagen Jetta and the Citroen C-Elysee.

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This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 7 2013, 09:31 AM

Just wait for the new Altis.

You can never go wrong with a Toyota.

except in the safety department