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post Jan 8 2014, 11:13 PM

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Kenanga growth seems too be going up up up in these few weeks despite the drop in local stock market
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post Jan 8 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 8 2014, 10:29 PM)
check the individual fund fact sheets for more details
if you believes in FSM research...see their rating for the regions/countries....
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...pdf_Summary.pdf

(just a note....what is the term of investing (how long?) for your mentioned aggressive risk profile? what is your expected ROI?)

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4217
rolleyes.gif  ending footnote:...As part of our continued efforts to urge local investors to venture overseas, we advise local investors to consider Asia ex-Japan and Emerging Markets regions as they present more attractive investment opportunities than the Malaysia market...  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

Extrapolating historical performance can sometimes be detrimental to investing; we suggest investors avoid relying too much on their “rear-view mirrors” when they invest ...Author : Fundsupermart
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=8539

my choice...for 1 or 2 funds of the above....AmAsia Pac & Aberdeen Islamic world.... brows.gif  tongue.gif
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Hi Mr Looi,

Thanks for your advice...I am comfortable investing from 3 to 7 years and expected ROI is >20%

Before buying anything, I will read the Prospectus and try to understand as much as I can (which really isn't much!) sweat.gif

Will do more research on overseas fund and emerging markets then. BTW, do you mind sharing your portfolio? Do you have any small cap funds?

Cheers! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 8 2014, 10:29 PM)

my choice...for 1 or 2 funds of the above....AmAsia Pac & Aberdeen Islamic world.... brows.gif  tongue.gif
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That means Am Asia pac Eq fund is quite a good bargain now. Plan to sell my PM funds and buy this at 0% fees......

Will check out on Aberdeen Islamic world, thanks.
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QUOTE(bluerose @ Jan 8 2014, 11:14 PM)
Thanks for your advice...I am comfortable investing from 3 to 7 years and expected ROI is >20% Per annum?
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Before buying anything, I will read the Prospectus and try to understand as much as I can (which really isn't much!)  sweat.gif ya-lor...mostly financial, technical and disclaimer stuffs.....just see where they allocate the funds and its % and also watch for any details of problems on debt/bond loan servicing by any holdings

Will do more research on overseas fund and emerging markets then. (just hope to catch any up swing in this regions as up swing normally provides the most returns)
BTW, do you mind sharing your portfolio? very paiseh-lor....still in the mist of switching to a more balanced portfolio...currently too heavy in Malaysia and in balanced funds. Why still in the mist of switching??? it is because they are still in RED or just +0.x% .... vmad.gif Do you have any small cap funds? RHB-OSK Emerging Opportunity fund

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post Jan 8 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 8 2014, 11:21 PM)
That means Am Asia pac Eq fund is quite a good bargain now. (what do you mean?, please elaborate....read post#1 first about NAV price)
Plan to  sell my PM funds and buy this at 0% fees......(why sell yr PM funds, don't you need them in yr portfolio of funds?....Am Asia PAc at 0% SC?)

Will check out on Aberdeen Islamic world, thanks.
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pls see note in "RED" above and yes,...something more about AmAsia PAc....
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3686

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post Jan 9 2014, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(bluerose @ Jan 8 2014, 11:14 PM)
Hi Mr Looi,

Thanks for your advice...I am comfortable investing from 3 to 7 years and expected ROI is >20%

Before buying anything, I will read the Prospectus and try to understand as much as I can (which really isn't much!)  sweat.gif

Will do more research on overseas fund and emerging markets then. BTW, do you mind sharing your portfolio? Do you have any small cap funds?

Cheers!  biggrin.gif
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U expect TOTAL ROI over 3-7 yrs of 20% or u expect ANNUAL ROI of 20%?

If the latter, then u are overly optimistic and will be disappointed.

With UT, expect 10% p.a. AT MOST, beating EPF is the min. goal.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 9 2014, 09:35 AM)
U expect TOTAL ROI over 3-7 yrs of 20% or u expect ANNUAL ROI of 20%?

If the latter, then u are overly optimistic and will be disappointed.

With UT, expect 10% p.a. AT MOST, beating EPF is the min. goal.
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That is referring to ROI right? Speaking of that, I have to start keep tracking of my year-to-year ROI increase. XIRR just does not justify the performance for now.
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i guess some may just hv a read at this chart and say......well i will buy any of these fund this year and i will give them 50% OFF, just to compensate the just in case the market dropped......i still get 16~32% returns in 2014......

then this may be the fact...take for RHB OSK Emerging Opportunity UT....total returns year 2013 is 35%......May till Dec mine is only up 3%.... guess Jan to April is up 32%......see the variance of increment (for 7 months) can be just 1% of the returns it gets from the total of 4 months.




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post Jan 9 2014, 09:57 AM

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Unker Looi / Pink, how's your funds performed for 2012 alone? Meaning using the total ROI for 2012 minus out 2011 ROI.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 9 2014, 09:57 AM)
Unker Looi / Pink, how's your funds performed for 2012 alone? Meaning using the total ROI for 2012 minus out 2011 ROI.
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I only have ROI record for 2013...previous years I did not track ROI.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 9 2014, 10:01 AM)
I only have ROI record for 2013...previous years I did not track ROI.
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Oh gosh, what was I saying. I meant 2013 minus 2012 ROI figure. Anyhow you don't have 2012 ROI figure. That's fine..
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 9 2014, 09:57 AM)
Unker Looi / Pink, how's your funds performed for 2012 alone? Meaning using the total ROI for 2012 minus out 2011 ROI.
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mine? gggeeee, got burned badly in 2001 and 2008...
got out of UT to recuperate....get married, buy house, make babies, do conservative savings...returns was about 4~6%pa.... reached my targeted safety funds in MAY and used the excess to go back UT in May..guess i missed the 12 months PLUS of growth....2011 % 2012 was a GOOD year for UT.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 9 2014, 10:02 AM)
Oh gosh, what was I saying. I meant 2013 minus 2012 ROI figure. Anyhow you don't have 2012 ROI figure. That's fine..
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Ooh...got...but I started tracking somewhere Feb-13...so 12-mth ROI figure I can only provide in end-Feb 2014.

Or u want my 2013 11 months ROI? tongue.gif
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post Jan 9 2014, 11:12 AM

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Hi again Uncle Looi,

LOL, i should have made myself clearer. >20% over 3 to 7 years.

Regarding the overseas/emerging funds, may I know how exactly are we to monitor the upswing in this manner? (Besides reading FSM articles every day blush.gif ) Apologies for this ignorant-sounding question as I really have no idea how to time my purchases at all.

No need to be paiseh about your portfolio, we are all on a learning process together! thumbup.gif

For now, as i will only be buying 2 funds at the most am I correct in assuming that not much balancing need to be done? Perhaps later i will move on to small cap like the EI one or balanced funds.

Cheers!


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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 8 2014, 11:13 PM)
Kenanga growth seems too be going up up up in these few weeks despite the drop in local stock market
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Hi Jutamind,

Do you hold any Kenanga Growth Fund? Hows the performance?

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QUOTE(bluerose @ Jan 9 2014, 11:12 AM)
Hi again Uncle Looi,

LOL, i should have made myself clearer. >20% over 3 to 7 years.

Regarding the overseas/emerging funds, may I know how exactly are we to monitor the upswing in this manner? (Besides reading FSM articles every day  blush.gif ) Apologies for this ignorant-sounding question as I really have no idea how to time my purchases at all.
i guess, no one can time the market. we can only look at the fundamentals, valuations and the current sentiments at times.......PATIENCE IS KEY IN VALUE INVESTING

Value investing in based on fundamentals; you want to buy companies or markets with high earnings potential, but pay little for it. In the long term, the company or market’s potential will be factored into the markets through a price appreciation. But the fact is that markets are not wholly driven by fundamentals, especially in the short term. In the short term, a significant bulk of price movement is driven by sentiment. So regardless of a company’s strong fundamentals and extremely impressive growth potential, its stock price may still come under pressure if the overall market sentiment is poor. This is what we saw during the equities selloff in 2H 2011. But since returns will be driven by fundamentals in the long term, patience is key in value investing; underlying value may take time to be reflected in prices.


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No need to be paiseh about your portfolio, we are all on a learning process together!  thumbup.gif

For now, as i will only be buying 2 funds at the most am I correct in assuming that not much balancing need to be done? Perhaps later i will move on to small cap like the EI one or balanced funds.
Just don't overlap the funds coverage regions or sectors...best to have them at opposite correlations...
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post Jan 9 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 7 2014, 09:22 PM)
forummer kimyee at post # 906...page 46 has 2 funds at the top 10  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
Well done.... notworthy.gif
made handsome returns...but IRR at less than 12 months...so unable to confirm displayed %.
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My 4 of 16 funds are in top ten, fortunately none are in bottom ten

Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund
Eastspring Investments Global Leaders MY Fund
RHB-OSK Emerging Opportunity Unit Trust
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund
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Here is Byron's 10 surprises for 2014

1. We experience a Dickensian market with the best of times and the worst of times. SPY drop 10% before finishing the year with 20% return.
2. The U.S. economy finally breaks out of its doldrums. Growth exceeds 3%.
3. The strength of the U.S. economy relative to Europe and Japan allows the dollar to strengthen.
4. Shinzo Abe is the only world leader who understands that d*** Cheney was right when he said that deficits don’t matter. Japanese market suffers a sharp (20%) correction in the second half.
5. China’s Third Plenum policies to rebalance the economy toward the consumer and away from a dependence on investment spending slow the growth rate to 6% in 2014.
6. Emerging market investing continues to prove treacherous except Mexico and South Korea.
7. In spite of increased U.S. production the price of West Texas Intermediate crude exceeds $110.
8. The rising standard of living and the shift to more consumer-oriented economies in the emerging markets result in a reversal of the decline in agricultural commodity prices.
9. The strength in the U.S. economy coupled with somewhat higher inflation causes the yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury to rise to 4%.
10. The Affordable Care Act has a remarkable turnaround. Obama’s approval rating rises.

full article at http://www.blackstone.com/news-views/marke...rprises-of-2014

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dear sifu and expert here ,wanna ask if hwang AIIMAN select income fund is good or any recommended govt bond fund? Thanks
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jan 10 2014, 01:06 PM)
dear sifu and expert here ,wanna ask if hwang AIIMAN select income fund is good or any recommended govt bond fund? Thanks
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Aiks, ANOTHER "is ABC Fund good?" question... shakehead.gif

See it's historical returns (use Chart Centre), fact sheets, annual reports, compare it against its peers and benchmark.

Gomen or not I dunno, I personally like RHB-OSK Income Fund 2 (formerly OSK-UOB Income Fund), quite stable though the returns not spectacular like AmDynamic Bond in those years

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